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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op maandag 12 maart 2012 07:53:38 schreef David W. Hodgins:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> My understanding was that Magea 1 supported updating from Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010.2 + Contrib + PLF-Free.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There were several updates submitted to qa a few days ago, that are
+</I>&gt;<i> only available in backports in Mdv 2010.2.
+</I>[...]
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+IMHO backports could be &quot;supported&quot; under Mageia backports, not in regular
+media.
+
+Keeping in mind our limited resources, nonetheless, several of these bugs
+which seemed to require workaround upon workaround, should get fixed sooner
+rather than later, because it seems to be getting more complicated or more
+discussed (and in generally too much resources being spent on it)
+
+i'm thinking of:
+ - backports
+ - noarch linking
+ - bug 2317
+ - livemedia
+ - or in general what we promise ( or rather to be careful what and how we
+promise):
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+if we say: &quot;there are no livemedia yet, but we're working on it to get it in
+the next few weeks&quot; ... some people become angry, but you can also say:
+&quot;There's a major bug preventing us from making livemedia, but we're working on
+them&quot; and possibly even updating it when it becomes clear it'll be for the
+next release into &quot;This beta release doesn't have any livemedia, we're hoping
+to have the next beta release containing livemedia&quot;
+
+Similar with backports: it's been promised this time without timelimit, but
+people seem to be convinced it'll never make it. 3rd party repositories
+popping up etc... It does not make us look good. and I'm getting to the point
+where the resources spent on discussing backports seem to be larger than the
+eventual losses in resources that would have been due to backports being open.
+But now of all times, backports shouldn't open, rather in the first week after
+release of mga2 would be a nice timing.
+
+to get back on topic: perhaps it's not unreasonable to allow a timelimit
+exception, like for instance 3 or 4 days where &quot;i forgot it was freeze or
+didn't make it in time AND it's not likely to mess everything up&quot; kind of
+reason...
+
+But i think the point is now becoming moot if temporary freeze of Beta2 is in
+effect... (not sure if it is, but i think i saw something regarding it)
+
+(about communication: maybe it's more prudent to have a messagebox above
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/</A> telling us about various freezes and upcoming
+soon freezes, even though as a packager it's my task to read meeting logs and
+keeping myself up2date)
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