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If +</I>>>>>><i> we want a different behaviour for backports then we should tag those +</I>>>>>><i> medias as backport, not update. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> The idea is, once the tools are appropriately adjusted, to tag the backport +</I>>>>><i> repos as update media, as in rpmdrake. But alternately we could get the +</I>>>>><i> update tools to automatically treat backport repos as update media for +</I>>>>><i> backports. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> backports are not updates, why should we tag them as update ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> If you are talking about the packages themselves, of course _backports +</I>>><i> packages_ should be tagged as backports, and regular update packages as +</I>>><i> updates. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> packages themselves are not tagged as backports or updates. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> However talking about _backport repos_, exactly how we tag them is +</I>>><i> arbitrary. +</I>>><i> Although obviously backports are updates relative to the initial release in +</I>>><i> question, so it is not unreasonable to tag the backport repos as updates. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> backports and updates repos need to be handled differently by +</I>><i> urpmi/rpmdrake. So they should be tagged differently. Is it so hard to +</I>><i> understand ? +</I>><i> +</I> +Backport packages and update packages need to be handled differently. +This can be more reliably dealt with by tagging the backport packages +themselves. +As a user could copy the backport to any location, it won't necessarily +be installed from a backport repo. +Which I and others have already suggested numerous times in previous +threads. +By tagging the package in the name (someone suggested using "bp"), it +could be readily determined by any user that a package is a backport. +My suggestion of tagging the backport repos as updates was recognizing +an obvious fact, which apparently is used by installer tools. +(Otherwise why bother ?) +And indeed, backports will be used as updates, albeit only to already +installed backports. + +-- +André + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="016940.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports Summary +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="016943.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports Summary +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#16941">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#16941">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#16941">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#16941">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |