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Can we? :) +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Yes we could :) +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> We would just need to add these packages. I see that Mageia developers +</I>>>>><i> want to do things correct, but listen this, i have installed +</I>>>>><i> Linuxmint 13 Cinnamon (that uses also ubuntu repos) and i have not +</I>>>>><i> added any new repos and i have faac available to install. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Couldnt developers in mageia put these kind of packages simply in +</I>>>>><i> non-free repository (at least until isnt found a better solution) ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> No! We do know, others (Ubuntu in this case) do not care about such +</I>>>><i> legal/licensing issues, but we do. +</I>>>><i> So only because someone else does jump off a building do you jump as +</I>>>><i> well? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Oliver +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hum; we can also have another viewpoint: +</I>>><i> So only because some countries have strange laws about patents and +</I>>><i> copywright the rest of the planet should follow-on! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> just a constatation; not pointing at or bashing anyone. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Without wanting to complain, this has been discussed several times before. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We do support installing things that have patent issues. THis is the +</I>><i> whole point of the "tainted" repository. You can do this if you like. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> However we also want to ensure that people who care about Free Software +</I>><i> are also catered for, so anything that is distributed under a non-free +</I>><i> licence is shipped in the non-free repository. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The problem specifically with faac is that it is both non-free *AND* +</I>><i> tainted. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> AFAIK, this is the only bit of software that we even half way want to +</I>><i> ship that falls into this category. As it's unmaintained and old, I do +</I>><i> not think that setting up a fourth repository (and when we setup up a +</I>><i> fourth repository it's actually five more internally: release, updates, +</I>><i> updates_testing, backports, backports_testing) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Doing this is a lot of work. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For one package, I personally feel we've got better things to spend our +</I>><i> time on. For the handful of people that really want this package, they +</I>><i> can rebuild it themselves. There are enough guides out there detailing +</I>><i> how to do this. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think it is a far better strategy generally that the effort that could +</I>><i> have been spend implementing and supporting this very special case would +</I>><i> rather be focussed on ensuring that the ffmpeg aac encoding support +</I>><i> works as needed and port applications relying on the faac to use ffmpeg +</I>><i> instead. It does seem to be under active development: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=history;f=libavcodec/aacenc.c;hb=HEAD">http://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=history;f=libavcodec/aacenc.c;hb=HEAD</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The latest ffmpeg was released just a few days ago. Has anyone actually +</I>><i> investigated the aac encoding capabilities it has? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is the most recent discussion I could find: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://ffmpeg-users.933282.n4.nabble.com/Choosing-between-experimental-libavcodec-aac-or-faac-encoders-td4347417.html">http://ffmpeg-users.933282.n4.nabble.com/Choosing-between-experimental-libavcodec-aac-or-faac-encoders-td4347417.html</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Seems like it would be very much worth looking at the native ffmpeg one IMO. +</I> +As always Colin interventions are quite clarifying. + +But i thought there were more software like this, like for example +there was in mandriva PLF, but the main issue is that severall +applications continue depending on faac to encode and untill those +apps dont change users will be stuck. + +Wouldnt be possible for someone put these software build in some +third-party repo (untill the apps that need faac change)? +That way users wouldnt be stuck and would be able to handle +video/audio encodes in Mageia. + +><i> Col +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Colin Guthrie +</I>><i> colin(at)mageia.org +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Day Job: +</I>><i>  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +</I>><i> Open Source: +</I>><i>  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> +</I>><i>  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> +</I>><i>  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="016650.html">[Mageia-dev] gstreamer0.10-faac - package request +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="016654.html">[Mageia-dev] gstreamer0.10-faac - package request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#16653">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#16653">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#16653">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#16653">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |