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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Simple w at 18/06/12 10:52 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 2012/6/17 Simple w &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">simplew8 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/6/17 R&#233;mi Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">remi at verschelde.fr</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/6/17 Simple w &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">simplew8 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have been running arist-gtk to encode video and almost all presets
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> fail because it needs gstreamer-faac, please see the output:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ]$ arista-gtk
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ** (process:3757): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'GMountMountFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ** (process:3757): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'GDriveStartFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ** (process:3757): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'GSocketMsgFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> arista.presets [435]: INFO Attempting to install elements: faac
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ** Message: PackageKit: xid = 0
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ** Message: PackageKit: Codec nice name: Elemento &quot;faac&quot; do GStreamer
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ** Message: PackageKit: structure: gstreamer0.10(element-faac)()(64bit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ** Message: PackageKit: Did not install codec: Message did not receive
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a reply (timeout by message bus)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> arista.presets [444]: ERROR Unable to install required elements!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Found only 1 preset working so far in arista, seams it uses
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gstreamer-faac in almost all presets...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Did you install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Packages like:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> faac
+</I>&gt;<i> amrwb
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> couldnt exist in non-free repository?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see that these packages for example in Fedora they exist in Rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> Fusion <A HREF="http://rpmfusion.org/">http://rpmfusion.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Seams to be a repository for packages with license &quot;issues&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can this be reviewed in Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i> Currently users are limited to handle video codifications and they
+</I>&gt;<i> dont have any option to install faac and amrwb.
+</I>
+As mentioned in the previous email, this particular bit of software has
+both license issues *and* patent issues in some countries.
+
+It's the combination of these two things that make things awkward for us
+as we have:
+ non-free (for software with license issues)
+and
+ tainted (for software with patent issues).
+
+To ship this package we would need yet another repository:
+ non-free+tainted
+
+And this is the general dilemma. Too many media sources are confusing to
+users. But clean separation is important for users who live in certain
+jurisdictions (and also potentially for mirror servers in certain
+jurisdictions who may not be able to carry tainted, but can carry non-free)
+
+Hope that explains the issue. It would be nice to solve it, but I'm not
+sure how without another media than that's a pain to support cleanly.
+
+Col
+
+
+
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+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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