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It means that we +</I>>><i> can't backport a package for Mageia 1 with a higher version than what we have +</I>>><i> in Mageia 2 release (and updates?) media. And this, until we are able to take +</I>>><i> backports into account during upgrades. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Example : +</I>>><i> - Mageia 2 has wesnoth 1.10.2 in core/release +</I>>><i> - Mageia 1 can't get a higher version in its backports media +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Do you all agree with my understanding of the policy ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This is a serious limitation to our ability to backport to Mageia (n-1) and +</I>>><i> even to our ability to provide security fixes to backports there (will not +</I>>><i> prevent it, but will prevent to do it by a version upgrade, which is the +</I>>><i> common way to fix that kind of issue in backports). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Maybe we shouldn't open backports for Mageia 1, and make sure upgrade to +</I>>><i> Mageia 3 can take backports from Mageia 2 into account so that backports to +</I>>><i> Mageia 2 are not stopped when Mageia 3 is released. Then we'll be safe. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Samuel +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I reread the backports policy and there are two lines that make backporting from cauldron to +</I>><i> mga1 impossible: +</I>><i> * Backports can be cherry-picked (ie, enable backports, install, disable backports). +</I>><i> * We need to ensure that upgrades never fail +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In this regard we can support backports only with new version that is lower than the one on +</I>><i> next release. If we want to enable backports for mga1 we can backport only from mga2. Not +</I>><i> from cauldron. This way we can submit updates by submitting new backport into mga1 backports +</I>><i> repo (users would still have to update manually AFAIK). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Any objections? +</I>><i> +</I> +OK. To backport from Cauldron to mga1, we have to backport from +Cauldron to mga2, (bumping the revision in cauldron to ensure that is is +higher), then backport from mga2 to mga1, ensuring that the revision is +lower in mga1 than in mga2. (e.g. revision x.1 in cauldron, x.0.1 in +mga2, x.0.0.1 in mga1) Pretty straight forward. + +- Cherry-picking refers to the users' option to install a backport, +which has nothing to do with the packaging itself. + +- Ensure that upgrades never fail : Properly packaged, there is no +reason why any available backports will not install properly, as long as +the tools are appropriately adjusted. Backports should install just as +reliably as regular updates. +Of course, if a particular backport or update is not available, it won't +install. Packages requiring it should not install either, which may not +always be the case now. (This should be verified - for backports and +updates.) +><i> -- +</I>><i> Sander +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-- +André + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="016316.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports policy clarification (and discussion) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="016320.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports policy clarification (and discussion) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#16319">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#16319">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#16319">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#16319">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |