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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+ <I>Mon Jun 4 21:08:31 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:49:52PM +0300, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> 04.06.2012 20:32, Olav Vitters skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Please change your wording. You have zero say in what goes on at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gnome.org, nor about me. If you start by telling me what I must and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; must not do, it is better to not respond.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Neither can gnome.org dictate what distros do, only suggest.
+</I>
+I'm very well aware, which is why I don't use must. It is a very long
+process, not going to change any time soon. Again, this started out with
+me saying &quot;I prefer&quot;... a minor note about my thoughts. Don't think that
+any of my messages as something I don't intend e.g. as if they are
+instructions on what Mageia should so.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - I clearly stated freedesktop.org standards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, standards is good as long as they actully are followed,
+</I>&gt;<i> wich is not always the case, but this is getting better...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Maybe to clarify my point: When using GNOME, there should not be any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; need to resort to a distro specific configuration tool. E.g. xorg
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; should be setup automatically, not require any distro assistance. It
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is long term and difficult.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, the power and usability of DE agnostic control center is _way_
+</I>&gt;<i> better than what the DE integrated ones can offer for systemwide settings.
+</I>
+Power I fully agree with.
+
+&gt;<i> Think of giving support: Instead of having first having to ask for what
+</I>&gt;<i> DE, and then have to to tell the user the DE-specific way of changing
+</I>&gt;<i> it, support can simply say open mcc, do this, then that, then...
+</I>&gt;<i> and you are done.
+</I>
+Depends on who is giving the support.
+
+&gt;<i> But yes, integration between tools, and getting more stuff to
+</I>&gt;<i> work automatically is WIP, not something that changes over night.
+</I>
+Indeed.
+
+&gt;<i> Not to mention pretty much every review out there lists mcc as one
+</I>&gt;<i> of the strong points, so it's also clear that endusers want it...
+</I>
+To be clear: I think MCC is great. But I also use Fedora sometimes. And
+sometimes Ubuntu. I highly prefer Mageia. I find it sad that something
+like MCC is distro specific. Other distributions have tools with their
+own advantages. I prefer if such tools are shared across distributions,
+just like most software is available between distributions. Possibly
+with some slight patches (like a lot of software), but that's it.
+
+Practically, probably not going to change any time soon, but I hope it
+does.. nothing more.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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