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+ <B>Richard Couture</B>
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+<PRE>I'm in full agreement, however the point of my initial post was not to
+obtain an evaluation of the merits of being able to, as part of the
+install as was the case in versions previous to system D, but to ask if
+a mechanism, providing the same function as was previously available,
+through msec or whatever, is in the plans...
+
+I value(d) this option and think that replacing it with whatever
+mechanism is necessary would be an asset to Mageia, whereas I now view
+it's lack of function as a loss.
+
+Perceptions are really important as can be seen in the various reviews
+which condemn for seemingly irrelevant details...
+
+Thanks
+
+
+
+
+
+Richard
+
+
+
+On 06/04/2012 06:10 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sunday, 3 June 2012 17:52:47 Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On the whole, this kind of &quot;security&quot; is basically bullshit anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can't make that assessment without understanding the rest of the
+</I>&gt;<i> security environment.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; might make things a tiny bit harder, but if you can get into the
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bootloader to append a 1 on the command line,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe you *can't* append anything you like to the command-line. Maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> the bootloader configuration has a 'boot single' option, which should
+</I>&gt;<i> require entry of the root password to access the system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you can also append
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; init=/bin/bash too which totally bypasses everything too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not if the bootloader configuration is password protected (IOW, you can
+</I>&gt;<i> boot any configured option, but if you want to modify anything, you need
+</I>&gt;<i> to provide a password, different from the root password).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So while it's
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maybe a nice idea, for all practical purposes, it's not any kind of real
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; security anyway, so don't rely on it!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No security implementation relies on a single control being in place. A
+</I>&gt;<i> numebr of modern security best practices have thousands of controls, and
+</I>&gt;<i> the requirement for a password to be entered to boot single is almost
+</I>&gt;<i> always one of them, and a requirement for a bootloader password is
+</I>&gt;<i> usually another.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Buchan
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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