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And if you doubt that +</I>>>><i> bugs appear, just see our bugzilla. +</I>>>><i> We trust upstream ( most of them ), and yet there is bugs. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> No, they're not totally unrelated when we don't have the man power to +</I>>><i> do through QA on every package, we need to trust on the packager (and +</I>>><i> upstream of course) that he did his best to test the new version +</I>>><i> without expecting him to have tested all the new features, Or do you +</I>>><i> expect that a QA member get a list of all the new features of a +</I>>><i> backport and start testing them one by one ? that's what I call +</I>>><i> unrealistic in practice. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> If you think that all version backports should be tested in the same +</I>>>>><i> way as updates by QA, then all versions upgrades in cauldron should be +</I>>>>><i> tested by QA before pushing them to the BS right ? +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> No, they should be tested before being put in the stable release. And +</I>>>><i> that's exactly what we do by freezing and testing before release. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Of course but again, we can't test *all* the new features of *all* the +</I>>><i> programs that are going to a new release, we do our best for most of +</I>>><i> them. Critical components like installer, kernel, drak* tools, etc +</I>>><i> need more testing and that's where (our very small team) QA should +</I>>><i> spend their time after a freeze. The rest we have to do our best to +</I>>><i> test after each version update of a package. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> And this is IMHO why we should not necessarily enforce full QA on backports. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It is ridiculous to enforce more testing on a package in backports, than most +</I>><i> likely was done for it while in cauldron before a release, especially +</I>><i> considering the user has a relatively easy mechanism for reverting to the +</I>><i> working package. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If QA can state definitively that every package in a release is fully tested, +</I>><i> then I might agree. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But, some of the reason to *have* backports is to allow users on stable +</I>><i> releases to test new versions that exist in cauldron. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> Buchan +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>+1 +If I remember correctly, our early discussions on backports proposed +that most of the responsibility for testing would be by those requesting +the backport in question, and the developer and/or maintainer. So that +QA would give priority to regular updates. +And that backports may have somewhat less testing, although we would try +to give the same level of testing as regular updates. +The requirement to have them first in cauldron was at least partly +related to increasing the quality of backports. +I agree that it is important to enable backports, to help ensure a +higher quality than will likely result with too much use of 3rd-party repos. + +Regards + +-- +André + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="011271.html">[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="011234.html">[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#11283">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#11283">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#11283">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#11283">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |