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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+ <I>Tue Jan 10 00:38:52 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 10.01.2012 01:30, David Walser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Anssi Hannula wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As I've noted in some previous emails, our core/tainted media codec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> split-up is currently arbitrary without any specific logic.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As far as I remember, the tainted policy is that codecs for formats that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are claimed to be covered by patents should be there.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Per that policy, at least the AC-3/DTS/MP3/MPEG-2/MPEG-4/H.264/VC-1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> decoders and AC-3/MPEG-2/MPEG-4 encoders we have in core should be moved
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to tainted section. Note that this will make most current
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> .mkv/.avi/.mp4/.mov/.wmv/.mp3 files unplayable without packages from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tainted section.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's the absolute last thing I want to see happen. It's one of the reasons Fedora and others that do that are not viable options for a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> of non-technical users, and it just makes it so you have to jump through a lot of extra hoops just to have a reasonably working system
+</I>&gt;<i> (whether it's your own or for family members that you might be maintaining). Obvouisly just about every codec in use has patents relevant to
+</I>&gt;<i> it, but I think we're OK to stick with the ones Mandriva shipped for years in core (like mp3 decoding) and things that were in PLF in tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> (like mp3 encoding) even if it seems arbitrary. If anything, it'd be nice if more not-likely-to-be-problematic codecs could be moved to
+</I>&gt;<i> core.
+</I>
+I'm absolutely fine with either moving codecs to core or tainted, as
+long as we are at least somewhat consistent in what is in core and what
+is in tainted. However, I do not really like the reasoning &quot;we do it
+like mandriva did no matter if it is sensible or not&quot;.
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+I'd possibly understand &quot;we do it like mandriva did because they didn't
+apparently have problems with these pkgs&quot;, but it IMHO wouldn't really
+fly as we could just s/mandriva/ubuntu/ in that statement (and Ubuntu is
+much more prominent than mdv IMO) and then everything would be in core...
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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