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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2012/1/6 Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Le 06/01/2012 16:13, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ah, I see your reasoning, of course, if the packager forgot to name
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the requires then urpmi declares them as orphans. But then, to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> safe, you have to forget about auto-orphans altogether because you can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not be sure that all packagers did their homework.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then you have to forget about using packages because you're not sure
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers did their work correctly.
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+I'd argue like that as well if we were in court. But it's not the
+same: if a packager misses something and the installation does not
+work, so what? I can use another package or distribution. But if he
+causes urpmi to regard a needed package as orphan and lets me remove
+it the system can break, now that is a problem.
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+&gt;<i> So far, still no one proved than 'orphan' status was wrong regarding urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> definition of what is an orphan package, rather than regarding their own
+</I>&gt;<i> personal expectation.
+</I>
+Yes, because the user does not care about any such definitions when he
+reads on the console or in rpmdrake &quot;These packages are orphans now,
+you can safely remove them&quot;. I'd suggest to change this sentence ASAP
+into &quot;If you are sure that it will not break anything you can remove
+them now&quot;. This would be a better advice for the user than &quot;you can
+safely remove&quot;.
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+wobo
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