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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-August/017941.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-August/017941.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9f1c4d203 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-August/017941.html @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Free software needing non-free data + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Free%20software%20needing%20non-free%20data&In-Reply-To=%3C501E9058.9060108%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="017940.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="017942.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Free software needing non-free data</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Free%20software%20needing%20non-free%20data&In-Reply-To=%3C501E9058.9060108%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Free software needing non-free data">andre999mga at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Aug 5 17:25:12 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="017940.html">[Mageia-dev] Free software needing non-free data +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="017942.html">[Mageia-dev] Crashes with Firefox 13 + Flash (inc. fix) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#17941">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#17941">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#17941">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#17941">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Samuel Verschelde a écrit : +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've reread our policy, but it's unclear to me where to put free software that +</I>><i> can't work (in a useful way for a user) without non-free data. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We currently have a mix of situations (sometimes in core, sometimes in +</I>><i> nonfree), which shows that it's not totally clear to other packagers either. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I see 2 different situations: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> --- redistributable data --- +</I>><i> Data is put in nonfree media, so the binaries are put in nonfree too because +</I>><i> we can't put a requires from core to nonfree +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Example : warsow and warsow-data +</I>><i> +</I>><i> --- non redistributable data --- +</I>><i> Here two different policies seem to be applied, depending on the packager: +</I>><i> 1°) put the binaries in core, since they are free +</I>><i> 2°) put the binaries in non-free, since they are useless without non-free data +</I>><i> (extrapolation of the "self-contained" rule of core) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And there are grayzone cases, such as: +</I>><i> - prboom (free) which is meant to work with Doom's wads (nonfree) but can also +</I>><i> work with freedoom (free), so it's in core even if we apply 2° +</I>><i> - ioquake3, which is an engine that can be used by other free games (although +</I>><i> I think they often ship their own modified version), so it's in core even if we +</I>><i> apply 2° +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, can we reach a consensus about something we could write in the policy so +</I>><i> that there's no more confusion, and move the relevant packages from nonfree to +</I>><i> core or core to nonfree? +</I>><i> +</I> +- If a package has any dependancies (requires or suggests) in nonfree, +it should go into nonfree. +Why I include suggests is because in the rpmdrake, the main graphical +interface, suggests are treated the same as requires. And in urpmi, +suggests are installed by default. If the user were queried for each +suggest, I might change my mind about suggests. + +- If the package cannot be run without non-free data, I would also put +it in nonfree, since it would be useless without non-free data. +Following the principal of core not requiring non-free. + +However if free data is readily available (or creatable), even if the +default data is non-free, I would put the package into core. (without +the default non-free data.) +This I would do even if the default non-free data were redistributable. +I don't see a problem with putting redistributable non-free data in +nonfree, with a comment to that effect in the free core package, as long +as free alternative data exists. (But no link to such non-free data +from core.) +In such a case, I would prefer to install the alternate free data with +the main package, or at least instructions detailing how to create or +otherwise obtain it. +><i> Best regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>My 2 cents :) + +-- +André + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="017940.html">[Mageia-dev] Free software needing non-free data +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="017942.html">[Mageia-dev] Crashes with Firefox 13 + Flash (inc. fix) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#17941">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#17941">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#17941">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#17941">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |