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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20nvidia-settings&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikUFrXhA4mXQQg5fFuuTvEHSXWHaA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Fri May 27 00:10:05 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 21 May 2011 14:00, Patrice BRUNELLE &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">patrice.brunelle at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I've upgraded a mandriva 2010.2 with the 64 bit dvd of the mageia-RC.
+</I>&gt;<i> But the /usr/bin/nvidia-settings is not present. urpmf told me that it
+</I>&gt;<i> was in x11-driver package but it is already installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've not yet tried to remove and reinstall this package.
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Patrice BRUNELLE &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">patrice.brunelle at free.fr</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+What's the output of 'rpm -qa *nvidia* | sort' and 'rpm -V
+x11-driver-video-nvidia-current' ?
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20nvidia-settings&In-Reply-To=%3C4DDEF75D.1060809%40iki.fi%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings">anssi.hannula at iki.fi
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+ <I>Fri May 27 02:59:09 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 21.05.2011 15:00, Patrice BRUNELLE wrote:
+&gt;<i> I've upgraded a mandriva 2010.2 with the 64 bit dvd of the mageia-RC.
+</I>&gt;<i> But the /usr/bin/nvidia-settings is not present. urpmf told me that it
+</I>&gt;<i> was in x11-driver package but it is already installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've not yet tried to remove and reinstall this package.
+</I>
+I guess the most likely reason is that the driver isn't enabled/configured.
+
+Use XFdrake to reconfigure the graphics driver.
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com
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+ <I>Fri May 27 03:17:57 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 27 May 2011 02:59, Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 21.05.2011 15:00, Patrice BRUNELLE wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've upgraded a mandriva 2010.2 with the 64 bit dvd of the mageia-RC.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But the /usr/bin/nvidia-settings is not present. urpmf told me that it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> was in x11-driver package but it is already installed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've not yet tried to remove and reinstall this package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess the most likely reason is that the driver isn't enabled/configured.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Use XFdrake to reconfigure the graphics driver.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anssi Hannula
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+(Ah, yes, it's done by the alternatives system... I missed it).
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Alt%2Bctrl%2Besc%20not%20working%20in%20clean%20kde%20nstall&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.vv4bne17n7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E"
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+In my install where I updated from Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia, in kde4,
+I can use alt+ctrl+esc, to change the mouse cursor to a skull and
+crossbones, and then click on a window to kill it.
+
+In my clean install of Mageia, it seems to be acting like ctrl+w
+(close window).
+
+I've checked that the shortcut is defined for kwin, in the global
+kde shortcuts.
+
+I can't see anything that should have to be installed, or configured,
+to get the kill window feature working.
+
+Anyone on a clean install manage to get it working?
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</PRE>
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+ <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers">yochenhsieh at gmail.com
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+There is a bug which would cause complete freeze with atheros wifi
+connection. I currently don't have a working wifi AP to test this
+issue now. So if you have atheros ath9k wifi and Cauldron, please help
+test this problem:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144</A>
+Bug 144 - Complete freeze with Atheros wifi
+
+Requirements:
+- Atheros wifi adapter which uses ath9k module.
+- Latest kernel
+
+How to reproduce/test:
+Connect to a wifi AP/hotspot and the system will be complete freeze.
+
+Please report to the bugzilla if this issue is still valid or invalid.
+
+Thanks,
+
+You-Cheng Hsieh
+</PRE>
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In my install where I updated from Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia, in kde4,
+</I>&gt;<i> I can use alt+ctrl+esc, to change the mouse cursor to a skull and
+</I>&gt;<i> crossbones, and then click on a window to kill it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In my clean install of Mageia, it seems to be acting like ctrl+w
+</I>&gt;<i> (close window).
+</I>
+Hmm, how do you see the difference between &quot;closing a window&quot; and
+&quot;kill a window&quot;?
+On my current Mageia I just used the skull&amp;bones on a window with a
+running card game (not to break something important), the window
+closed, checking with 'ps aux' returned that the process 'lskat' was
+also ended.
+
+--
+wobo
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+
+&gt;<i> 2011/5/27 David W. Hodgins &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In my install where I updated from Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia, in kde4,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can use alt+ctrl+esc, to change the mouse cursor to a skull and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> crossbones, and then click on a window to kill it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In my clean install of Mageia, it seems to be acting like ctrl+w
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (close window).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, how do you see the difference between &quot;closing a window&quot; and
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;kill a window&quot;?
+</I>
+Install and run pysol. Press alt+ctrl+esc. With my updated 2010.2,
+the skull &amp; crossbones appear, and I can click on the pysol window
+to kill it.
+
+With a clean install of mageia, the pysol game gets minimized and
+paused.
+
+Usually I've used it when a web browser hits a site that causes a
+javascript loop, or a program otherwise becomes unresponsive.
+
+I can use alt+f2, and run xkill (which I installed, trying to fix
+this), which works, but not the keyboard shortcut.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Install and run pysol. &#160;Press alt+ctrl+esc. &#160;With my updated 2010.2,
+</I>&gt;<i> the skull &amp; crossbones appear, and I can click on the pysol window
+</I>&gt;<i> to kill it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With a clean install of mageia, the pysol game gets minimized and
+</I>&gt;<i> paused.
+</I>
+I have a clean Mageia RC with all updates.
+Installed and started pysol,
+ctl+alt+ESC (skull&amp;bones appear),
+click in the pysol window, game over (window is killed).
+Just as intended.
+
+--
+wobo
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In my install where I updated from Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia, in kde4,
+</I>&gt;<i> I can use alt+ctrl+esc, to change the mouse cursor to a skull and
+</I>&gt;<i> crossbones, and then click on a window to kill it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In my clean install of Mageia, it seems to be acting like ctrl+w
+</I>&gt;<i> (close window).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've checked that the shortcut is defined for kwin, in the global
+</I>&gt;<i> kde shortcuts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't see anything that should have to be installed, or configured,
+</I>&gt;<i> to get the kill window feature working.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyone on a clean install manage to get it working?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Try in a new user account, (or the xguest account).
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+
+&gt;<i> I have a clean Mageia RC with all updates.
+</I>&gt;<i> Installed and started pysol,
+</I>&gt;<i> ctl+alt+ESC (skull&amp;bones appear),
+</I>&gt;<i> click in the pysol window, game over (window is killed).
+</I>&gt;<i> Just as intended.
+</I>
+I just tried logging out of kde (I use run level 3), and
+renaming ~/.kde4 to ~/.kde4.old, and then started kde.
+Same result, so it isn't a config issue. Strange.
+
+I'm using install from mageia-dvd-1-rc-i586.iso, fully
+updated.
+
+Since the final is almost ready, I'll wait and do a clean
+install from that, and see what happens.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a bug which would cause complete freeze with atheros wifi
+</I>&gt;<i> connection. I currently don't have a working wifi AP to test this
+</I>&gt;<i> issue now. So if you have atheros ath9k wifi and Cauldron, please help
+</I>&gt;<i> test this problem:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bug 144 - Complete freeze with Atheros wifi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Requirements:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Atheros wifi adapter which uses ath9k module.
+</I>&gt;<i> - Latest kernel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How to reproduce/test:
+</I>&gt;<i> Connect to a wifi AP/hotspot and the system will be complete freeze.
+</I>&gt;<i> wi
+</I>&gt;<i> Please report to the bugzilla if this issue is still valid or invalid.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Not much tests tobe done, still valid but waiting for more inputs from
+upstream
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Anne
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+probably everyone knows the bug related to the use of orphans by urpmi (and
+rpmdrake):
+
+title: 'urpme --auto-orphans' message shouldn't be shown when using rpmdrake'
+
+link: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920</A>
+
+
+as time is over and we can't change this feature, what about using a
+workaround in urpmi? my proposal is to change the current message with someone
+similar to this:
+
+&quot;these packages are orphans. If you are an experienced user and you want to
+remove them, you can use &quot;urpme --auto-orphans&quot;. Otherwise we discourage the
+use of this comand&quot;
+
+is still possible? i need the partecipation of i18n team to update the
+localizations and the approval of the dev team that should commit the new
+package. Please, let me know
+
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+cheers
+Marcello
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> probably everyone knows the bug related to the use of orphans by urpmi (and
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmdrake):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> title: 'urpme --auto-orphans' message shouldn't be shown when using rpmdrake'
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> link: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as time is over and we can't change this feature, what about using a
+</I>
+Hmmm, first you state this wich is correct...
+
+
+&gt;<i> workaround in urpmi? my proposal is to change the current message with someone
+</I>&gt;<i> similar to this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;these packages are orphans. If you are an experienced user and you want to
+</I>&gt;<i> remove them, you can use &quot;urpme --auto-orphans&quot;. Otherwise we discourage the
+</I>&gt;<i> use of this comand&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is still possible? i need the partecipation of i18n team to update the
+</I>&gt;<i> localizations and the approval of the dev team that should commit the new
+</I>&gt;<i> package. Please, let me know
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+then you still ask for changes... :/
+
+anyway... Its _way_ too late, we are in full freeze and have started
+testing final isos, so no changes at this point.
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> probably everyone knows the bug related to the use of orphans by urpmi (and
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmdrake):
+</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Marcello Anni skrev 27.5.2011 12:25:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; probably everyone knows the bug related to the use of orphans by urpmi
+</I>(and
+&gt;<i> &gt; rpmdrake):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; title: 'urpme --auto-orphans' message shouldn't be shown when using
+</I>rpmdrake'
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; link: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as time is over and we can't change this feature, what about using a
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmmm, first you state this wich is correct...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; workaround in urpmi? my proposal is to change the current message with
+</I>someone
+&gt;<i> &gt; similar to this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;these packages are orphans. If you are an experienced user and you want
+</I>to
+&gt;<i> &gt; remove them, you can use &quot;urpme --auto-orphans&quot;. Otherwise we discourage
+</I>the
+&gt;<i> &gt; use of this comand&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is still possible? i need the partecipation of i18n team to update the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; localizations and the approval of the dev team that should commit the new
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; package. Please, let me know
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> then you still ask for changes... :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> anyway... Its _way_ too late, we are in full freeze and have started
+</I>&gt;<i> testing final isos, so no changes at this point.
+</I>
+ok, maybe if Anne wrote down these words i'd understand before that it's
+impossible at this development stage. i will try to organize this change (that
+anyway it's not about code, but only a transaltion string) after the release.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+thanks
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Marcello Anni skrev 27.5.2011 12:25:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; probably everyone knows the bug related to the use of orphans by urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> (and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; rpmdrake):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; title: 'urpme --auto-orphans' message shouldn't be shown when using
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmdrake'
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; link: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; as time is over and we can't change this feature, what about using a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hmmm, first you state this wich is correct...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; workaround in urpmi? my proposal is to change the current message with
+</I>&gt;<i> someone
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; similar to this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &quot;these packages are orphans. If you are an experienced user and you
+</I>&gt;<i> want
+</I>&gt;<i> to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; remove them, you can use &quot;urpme --auto-orphans&quot;. Otherwise we
+</I>&gt;<i> discourage
+</I>&gt;<i> the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; use of this comand&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; is still possible? i need the partecipation of i18n team to update the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; localizations and the approval of the dev team that should commit the
+</I>&gt;<i> new
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; package. Please, let me know
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; then you still ask for changes... :/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; anyway... Its _way_ too late, we are in full freeze and have started
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; testing final isos, so no changes at this point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ok, maybe if Anne wrote down these words i'd understand before that it's
+</I>&gt;<i> impossible at this development stage. i will try to organize this change
+</I>&gt;<i> (that
+</I>&gt;<i> anyway it's not about code, but only a transaltion string) after the
+</I>&gt;<i> release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Sorry ? Instead of making people loose time in these days please read
+bugzilla messages.
+That's it
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
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+Anne
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+<PRE>2011/5/27 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011/5/27 You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is a bug which would cause complete freeze with atheros wifi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> connection. I currently don't have a working wifi AP to test this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> issue now. So if you have atheros ath9k wifi and Cauldron, please help
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> test this problem:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bug 144 - Complete freeze with Atheros wifi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Requirements:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Atheros wifi adapter which uses ath9k module.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Latest kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How to reproduce/test:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Connect to a wifi AP/hotspot and the system will be complete freeze.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please report to the bugzilla if this issue is still valid or invalid.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not much tests tobe done, still valid but waiting for more inputs from
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream
+</I>
+Based on Wobo's report on bugzilla, it seems x86-64 system have not
+such problem.
+Perhaps we could mention that in the errata for a workaround?
+&quot;Users have x86-64 CPU and atheros wifi are recommended to install
+x86-64 edition instead of i586, to avoid complete system freeze when
+connecting to wifi.&quot;
+
+Thanks,
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+You-Cheng Hsieh
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+I want to provide to users mageia linux (we already provide mandriva).
+What i need to build inside chroot mageia linux? To build mandriva i'm
+using under Exherbo Linux urmpi with mandriva repos...
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+Thank You for all answers.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Based on Wobo's report on bugzilla, it seems x86-64 system have not
+</I>&gt;<i> such problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps we could mention that in the errata for a workaround?
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Users have x86-64 CPU and atheros wifi are recommended to install
+</I>&gt;<i> x86-64 edition instead of i586, to avoid complete system freeze when
+</I>&gt;<i> connecting to wifi.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Nope.
+
+too much generalisation..
+
+It seems so far to be atheros 9285 (and some 9280), with some specific
+revisions. And have happend on both arches too..
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> Hello. I'm new in this list. I'm systemd administrator of the Russian
+</I>&gt;<i> vps cloud provider (clodo.ru). Weprovide some linux distribution to
+</I>&gt;<i> instll on user vps.
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to provide to users mageia linux (we already provide mandriva).
+</I>&gt;<i> What i need to build inside chroot mageia linux? To build mandriva i'm
+</I>&gt;<i> using under Exherbo Linux urmpi with mandriva repos...
+</I>
+You can use drakx-install, or similar.
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+Alternatively, using urpmi should likely work too.
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 2011/5/27 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Marcello Anni skrev 27.5.2011 12:25:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; probably everyone knows the bug related to the use of orphans by urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; rpmdrake):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; title: 'urpme --auto-orphans' message shouldn't be shown when using
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rpmdrake'
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; link: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; as time is over and we can't change this feature, what about using a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hmmm, first you state this wich is correct...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; workaround in urpmi? my proposal is to change the current message with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; someone
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; similar to this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;these packages are orphans. If you are an experienced user and you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; want
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; remove them, you can use &quot;urpme --auto-orphans&quot;. Otherwise we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; discourage
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; use of this comand&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; is still possible? i need the partecipation of i18n team to update the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; localizations and the approval of the dev team that should commit the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; new
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; package. Please, let me know
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; then you still ask for changes... :/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; anyway... Its _way_ too late, we are in full freeze and have started
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; testing final isos, so no changes at this point.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ok, maybe if Anne wrote down these words i'd understand before that it's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; impossible at this development stage. i will try to organize this change
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; anyway it's not about code, but only a transaltion string) after the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; release.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry ? Instead of making people loose time in these days please read
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla messages.
+</I>&gt;<i> That's it
+</I>
+i'm only trying to improve the distro as all of you, a kind attitude is always
+appreciated. In plus, in bugzilla you didn't explain the reasons of your
+choice, i had to wait for thomas to know that ISOs are in a building stage (i
+update my system even today and i don't know when updates have been pushed).
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 27 mai 2011 &#224; 14:26 +0400, Vasiliy G Tolstov a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello. I'm new in this list. I'm systemd administrator of the Russian
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; vps cloud provider (clodo.ru). Weprovide some linux distribution to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; instll on user vps.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I want to provide to users mageia linux (we already provide mandriva).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What i need to build inside chroot mageia linux? To build mandriva i'm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; using under Exherbo Linux urmpi with mandriva repos...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can use drakx-install, or similar.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Alternatively, using urpmi should likely work too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ok. To bootstrap mandriva i'm using
+<A HREF="http://mirror.yandex.ru/mandriva/official/2010.2/">http://mirror.yandex.ru/mandriva/official/2010.2/</A> . Can You tell me link
+to rpms folder of mageia ?
+--
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 12:42 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le vendredi 27 mai 2011 &#224; 14:26 +0400, Vasiliy G Tolstov a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello. I'm new in this list. I'm systemd administrator of the Russian
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> vps cloud provider (clodo.ru). Weprovide some linux distribution to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> instll on user vps.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I want to provide to users mageia linux (we already provide mandriva).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What i need to build inside chroot mageia linux? To build mandriva i'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> using under Exherbo Linux urmpi with mandriva repos...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can use drakx-install, or similar.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Alternatively, using urpmi should likely work too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok. To bootstrap mandriva i'm using
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mirror.yandex.ru/mandriva/official/2010.2/">http://mirror.yandex.ru/mandriva/official/2010.2/</A> . Can You tell me link
+</I>&gt;<i> to rpms folder of mageia ?
+</I>
+Choose the mirror you want:
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+<A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/">http://mirrors.mageia.org/</A>
+
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+&gt;<i> You-Cheng Hsieh skrev 27.5.2011 13:33:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Based on Wobo's report on bugzilla, it seems x86-64 system have not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> such problem.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Perhaps we could mention that in the errata for a workaround?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Users have x86-64 CPU and atheros wifi are recommended to install
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> x86-64 edition instead of i586, to avoid complete system freeze when
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> connecting to wifi.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nope.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> too much generalisation..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems so far to be atheros 9285 (and some 9280), with some specific
+</I>&gt;<i> revisions. And have happend on both arches too..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Was going to say it doesn't seem to be happening here on x86, slightly
+different hardware:
+
+ath9k : Atheros Communications Inc.|AR928X Wireless Network
+Adapter (PCI-Express) [NETWORK_OTHER] (vendor:168c device:002a subv:105b
+subd:e01f) (rev: 01)
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 12:42 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le vendredi 27 mai 2011 &#224; 14:26 +0400, Vasiliy G Tolstov a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hello. I'm new in this list. I'm systemd administrator of the Russian
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; vps cloud provider (clodo.ru). Weprovide some linux distribution to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; instll on user vps.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I want to provide to users mageia linux (we already provide mandriva).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; What i need to build inside chroot mageia linux? To build mandriva i'm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; using under Exherbo Linux urmpi with mandriva repos...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You can use drakx-install, or similar.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Alternatively, using urpmi should likely work too.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok. To bootstrap mandriva i'm using
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mirror.yandex.ru/mandriva/official/2010.2/">http://mirror.yandex.ru/mandriva/official/2010.2/</A> . Can You tell me link
+</I>&gt;<i> to rpms folder of mageia ?
+</I>
+The release is in 4 days, so for now, there is only developpement
+version. So depending on what you want to do ( ie, for test, that should
+be ok, for deployment, better to wait 4 days ), maybe you should wait.
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 27 mai 2011 &#224; 14:46 +0400, Vasiliy G Tolstov a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 12:42 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le vendredi 27 mai 2011 &#224; 14:26 +0400, Vasiliy G Tolstov a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Hello. I'm new in this list. I'm systemd administrator of the Russian
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; vps cloud provider (clodo.ru). Weprovide some linux distribution to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; instll on user vps.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; I want to provide to users mageia linux (we already provide mandriva).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; What i need to build inside chroot mageia linux? To build mandriva i'm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; using under Exherbo Linux urmpi with mandriva repos...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; You can use drakx-install, or similar.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Alternatively, using urpmi should likely work too.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ok. To bootstrap mandriva i'm using
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mirror.yandex.ru/mandriva/official/2010.2/">http://mirror.yandex.ru/mandriva/official/2010.2/</A> . Can You tell me link
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to rpms folder of mageia ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The release is in 4 days, so for now, there is only developpement
+</I>&gt;<i> version. So depending on what you want to do ( ie, for test, that should
+</I>&gt;<i> be ok, for deployment, better to wait 4 days ), maybe you should wait.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+I'm build image today. After release i'm only rebuild it to update
+packages and get it to our clients.
+
+--
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+</I>&gt;<i> appreciated. In plus, in bugzilla you didn't explain the reasons of your
+</I>&gt;<i> choice, i had to wait for thomas to know that ISOs are in a building stage (i
+</I>&gt;<i> update my system even today and i don't know when updates have been pushed).
+</I>
+Then, we may have a communication problem, as we displayed on a lot of
+place that we do the release soon. Anne posted a mail here with
+informations, we published the planning, etc.
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+&gt;<i> Revision 1555 Author dmorgan Date 2011-05-27 12:03:00 +0200 (Fri, 27 May
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</I>
+Please revert, that's only used to read older configs
+so obviously we cannot rename those....
+
+
+&gt;<i> Modified: mgaonline/trunk/mgaonline.pm
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- mgaonline/trunk/mgaonline.pm 2011-05-27 09:01:31 UTC (rev 1554)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ mgaonline/trunk/mgaonline.pm 2011-05-27 10:03:00 UTC (rev 1555)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -162,7 +162,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> sub clean_confdir() {
+</I>&gt;<i> - my $confdir = '/root/.MdkOnline';
+</I>&gt;<i> + my $confdir = '/root/.MgaOnline';
+</I>&gt;<i> system &quot;/bin/rm&quot;, &quot;-f&quot;, &quot;$confdir/*log.bz2&quot;, &quot;$confdir/*log.bz2.uue&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;$confdir/*.dif $confdir/rpm_qa_installed_before&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;$confdir/rpm_qa_installed_after&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> }
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 27 mai 2011 &#224; 13:28 +0200, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Modified: mgaonline/trunk/mgaonline.pm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --- mgaonline/trunk/mgaonline.pm 2011-05-27 09:01:31 UTC (rev 1554)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +++ mgaonline/trunk/mgaonline.pm 2011-05-27 10:03:00 UTC (rev 1555)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; @@ -162,7 +162,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sub clean_confdir() {
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - my $confdir = '/root/.MdkOnline';
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + my $confdir = '/root/.MgaOnline';
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; system &quot;/bin/rm&quot;, &quot;-f&quot;, &quot;$confdir/*log.bz2&quot;, &quot;$confdir/*log.bz2.uue&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;$confdir/*.dif $confdir/rpm_qa_installed_before&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;$confdir/rpm_qa_installed_after&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; }
+</I>
+system rm -f, am I the only one to find that's ugly ?
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 27 mai 2011 &#224; 12:43 +0200, Marcello Anni a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i'm only trying to improve the distro as all of you, a kind attitude is always
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> appreciated. In plus, in bugzilla you didn't explain the reasons of your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> choice, i had to wait for thomas to know that ISOs are in a building stage (i
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> update my system even today and i don't know when updates have been pushed).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then, we may have a communication problem, as we displayed on a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> place that we do the release soon. Anne posted a mail here with
+</I>&gt;<i> informations, we published the planning, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yet, it seems people didn't get the message, so there is likely
+</I>&gt;<i> something to improve.
+</I>
+Pls don't generalize :)
+To my impression people (same generalisation) did get the message
+about Final Freeze and all that. Especially people reading this list
+here or other lists like marcomm, artwork, i18n. Experiences of us all
+show that it is impossible to spread an information in a way that
+there will not be those few users who did not get it.
+
+--
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+please push mgaonline
+it fixes media URI on mdv when updating to mga
+it also disable features not supported on Mageia but that do exist on mdv:
+ Enterprise Media, Extended Maintenance, Restricted media (mga#1153)
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry ? Instead of making people loose time in these days please read
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bugzilla messages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm only trying to improve the distro as all of you, a kind attitude is always
+</I>&gt;<i> appreciated. In plus, in bugzilla you didn't explain the reasons of your
+</I>&gt;<i> choice,
+</I>
+please stop that, I told you a month ago in Comment 5 &quot;that would need changes
+in urpmi too, which is a bit invasive at this stage&quot;.
+
+ i had to wait for thomas to know that ISOs are in a building stage (i
+&gt;<i> update my system even today and i don't know when updates have been pushed).
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Modified: mgaonline/trunk/mgaonline.pm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; --- mgaonline/trunk/mgaonline.pm &#160; &#160;2011-05-27 09:01:31 UTC (rev 1554)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; +++ mgaonline/trunk/mgaonline.pm &#160; &#160;2011-05-27 10:03:00 UTC (rev 1555)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; @@ -162,7 +162,7 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;sub clean_confdir() {
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - &#160; &#160;my $confdir = '/root/.MdkOnline';
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; + &#160; &#160;my $confdir = '/root/.MgaOnline';
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;system &quot;/bin/rm&quot;, &quot;-f&quot;, &quot;$confdir/*log.bz2&quot;, &quot;$confdir/*log.bz2.uue&quot;,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;$confdir/*.dif $confdir/rpm_qa_installed_before&quot;,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;$confdir/rpm_qa_installed_after&quot;;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;}
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> system rm -f, am I the only one to find that's ugly ?
+</I>
+That's code bound to be removed anyway, it's obsolete for quite
+a couple releases but it's not the moment for doing
+cleaning-that-have-no-impact-I-assure-upi.
+Though I wonder why the initial coder didn't reuse MDK::Common
+
+It's basically obsolete since march 2007 when I switch mdkonline
+from poor server side update computations to locally using
+urpmi core to compute updates which is both more scalable and
+quite a lot more accurate (taking into account provides, obsoletes,
+skip.list, actual packages avaibility on used mirrors and the like...).
+the server was using its own basic algorithm based only on packages list
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 2011/5/27 Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le vendredi 27 mai 2011 &#224; 12:43 +0200, Marcello Anni a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; i'm only trying to improve the distro as all of you, a kind attitude is
+</I>always
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; appreciated. In plus, in bugzilla you didn't explain the reasons of your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; choice, i had to wait for thomas to know that ISOs are in a building
+</I>stage (i
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; update my system even today and i don't know when updates have been
+</I>pushed).
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Then, we may have a communication problem, as we displayed on a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; place that we do the release soon. Anne posted a mail here with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; informations, we published the planning, etc.
+</I>
+no (as i explain below), the communication is ok, is the kindness and the
+explanation of Anne that disappointed me.
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yet, it seems people didn't get the message, so there is likely
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; something to improve.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Pls don't generalize :)
+</I>&gt;<i> To my impression people (same generalisation) did get the message
+</I>&gt;<i> about Final Freeze and all that. Especially people reading this list
+</I>&gt;<i> here or other lists like marcomm, artwork, i18n. Experiences of us all
+</I>&gt;<i> show that it is impossible to spread an information in a way that
+</I>&gt;<i> there will not be those few users who did not get it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+but in fact i know that we are in freeze, but i see also that some packages
+(e.g. mageiaonline) continue to be improved for release, so i think that there
+is still some time. maybe i'm wrong but i don't see the reason to answer so
+rude
+
+&gt;<i>Thiery wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> please stop that, I told you a month ago in Comment 5 &quot;that would need
+</I>changes
+&gt;<i> in urpmi too, which is a bit invasive at this stage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+but do you consider a change in a language string as a difficult change? i don't
+have technical skills but i don't think so...
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 14:49, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> no (as i explain below), the communication is ok, is the kindness and the
+</I>&gt;<i> explanation of Anne that disappointed me.
+</I>
+Note to self for next time: take a photo of ennael handing a huge sign
+&quot;It's freeze time!&quot; with a large smile + a link to a tutorial that
+explains what that means for everyone - and put it in a corner of all
+mageia.org web sites.
+
+&gt;<i> but in fact i know that we are in freeze, but i see also that some packages
+</I>&gt;<i> (e.g. mageiaonline) continue to be improved for release,
+</I>
+Not improved, but fixed. Because this one is release critical - this
+has nothing to do with a cosmectic change.
+
+&gt;<i> but do you consider a change in a language string as a difficult change? i don't
+</I>&gt;<i> have technical skills but i don't think so...
+</I>
+No, but being in freeze disregards totally that a change is trivial
+(changing the string) or not (fixing the behaviour). It's not a
+release critical bug, so it just does not get on the table past the
+freeze date. And even less (because there are exceptions) when the
+release time is approaching.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>2011/5/27 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 14:49, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> no (as i explain below), the communication is ok, is the kindness and the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> explanation of Anne that disappointed me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note to self for next time: take a photo of ennael handing a huge sign
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;It's freeze time!&quot; with a large smile
+</I>
+I'll take you up on that! I just put this mail in my &quot;Important&quot; mail folder...
+Looking forward....
+
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 14:49, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; no (as i explain below), the communication is ok, is the kindness and the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; explanation of Anne that disappointed me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note to self for next time: take a photo of ennael handing a huge sign
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;It's freeze time!&quot; with a large smile + a link to a tutorial that
+</I>&gt;<i> explains what that means for everyone - and put it in a corner of all
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia.org web sites.
+</I>
+good idea : )
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but in fact i know that we are in freeze, but i see also that some
+</I>packages
+&gt;<i> &gt; (e.g. mageiaonline) continue to be improved for release,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not improved, but fixed. Because this one is release critical - this
+</I>&gt;<i> has nothing to do with a cosmectic change.
+</I>
+ok, it's not release critical but it's not neither a cosmetic change, as users
+are suggested to remove those packages and in the 99% of the cases it brings
+huge issues... and we should also remember that a person that uses linux is
+curious and wants the best for his system, if he reads &quot;these packages are now
+unuseful (and he doesn't come from mandriva)&quot; he probably (50%?) will try the
+comand
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but do you consider a change in a language string as a difficult change? i
+</I>don't
+&gt;<i> &gt; have technical skills but i don't think so...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, but being in freeze disregards totally that a change is trivial
+</I>&gt;<i> (changing the string) or not (fixing the behaviour). It's not a
+</I>&gt;<i> release critical bug, so it just does not get on the table past the
+</I>&gt;<i> freeze date. And even less (because there are exceptions) when the
+</I>&gt;<i> release time is approaching.
+</I>
+andr&#233; blais proposed a similar solution on 2011-04-29, it's not a last-day
+proposal:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920#c6">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920#c6</A>
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+hope it will be fixed in some updates for mageia 1 release.
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>Le 27/05/2011 14:43, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 27 May 2011 13:35, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Modified: mgaonline/trunk/mgaonline.pm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; --- mgaonline/trunk/mgaonline.pm 2011-05-27 09:01:31 UTC (rev 1554)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; +++ mgaonline/trunk/mgaonline.pm 2011-05-27 10:03:00 UTC (rev 1555)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; @@ -162,7 +162,7 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; sub clean_confdir() {
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; - my $confdir = '/root/.MdkOnline';
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; + my $confdir = '/root/.MgaOnline';
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; system &quot;/bin/rm&quot;, &quot;-f&quot;, &quot;$confdir/*log.bz2&quot;, &quot;$confdir/*log.bz2.uue&quot;,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &quot;$confdir/*.dif $confdir/rpm_qa_installed_before&quot;,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &quot;$confdir/rpm_qa_installed_after&quot;;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; }
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; system rm -f, am I the only one to find that's ugly ?
+</I>Maybe we can write an unlink() function?
+
+--
+Sandro Cazzaniga - <A HREF="https://lederniercoupdarchet.wordpress.com">https://lederniercoupdarchet.wordpress.com</A>
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 27 mai 2011 &#224; 14:43 +0200, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> It's basically obsolete since march 2007 when I switch mdkonline
+</I>&gt;<i> from poor server side update computations to locally using
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi core to compute updates which is both more scalable and
+</I>&gt;<i> quite a lot more accurate (taking into account provides, obsoletes,
+</I>&gt;<i> skip.list, actual packages avaibility on used mirrors and the like...).
+</I>&gt;<i> the server was using its own basic algorithm based only on packages list
+</I>
+Pushing computation on the edge ( and on the client ) is IMHO something
+we should keep in mind for various tools :
+- less resources on our side
+- more privacy for user
+
+--
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+<PRE>On Fri, 27 May 2011 13:08:33 -0400, Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Right now there're 3 packages that were imported without cleaning:
+</I>&gt;<i> drakstats
+</I>&gt;<i> drakwizard
+</I>&gt;<i> drakfax
+</I>&gt;<i> They should be reviewed before release, and either get cleaned (if
+</I>&gt;<i> needed) or removed from the repos until they're cleaned.
+</I>
+Isn't it a bit late to be removing packages?
+
+How will this impact upgrading from 2010.2?
+
+Since those packages are no longer available, will the existing
+mandriva versions get removed, or will they be left to block upgrades,
+as they have mandriva dependencies?
+
+In my opinion, they should be left in, with an errata entry stating
+that they still need cleaning.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+<PRE>On 27 May 2011 21:58, David W. Hodgins &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 27 May 2011 13:08:33 -0400, Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Right now there're 3 packages that were imported without cleaning:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drakstats
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drakwizard
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drakfax
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They should be reviewed before release, and either get cleaned (if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> needed) or removed from the repos until they're cleaned.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Isn't it a bit late to be removing packages?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How will this impact upgrading from 2010.2?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since those packages are no longer available, will the existing
+</I>&gt;<i> mandriva versions get removed, or will they be left to block upgrades,
+</I>&gt;<i> as they have mandriva dependencies?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In my opinion, they should be left in, with an errata entry stating
+</I>&gt;<i> that they still need cleaning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+No can do; if they're not cleaned they can't be in the official repos
+due to copyright/trademarks/legal-soup issues.
+
+Anyway, status update:
+o drakwizard: cleaned by Anne and is good to go
+o drakfax: the code hasn't been touched in ~2years, so it's been
+removed from the repos as it's not really supported
+o drakstats: it needs server-side support, this isn't viable for
+Mageia 1; so it's been removed for now, until such a time that support
+is implemented in the Mageia servers.
+
+
+After upgrading drakfax will be considered, by urpmi, as an orphan
+package as it's not required/suggested by anything any more. As for
+drakstats, nothing suggests/requires it already, users who have it,
+will have to remove it manually, though maybe something should
+obsolete for now... (I'll ask on IRC).
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 27 mai 2011 &#224; 14:49 +0200, Marcello Anni a &#233;crit :
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;Thiery wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please stop that, I told you a month ago in Comment 5 &quot;that would need
+</I>&gt;<i> changes
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in urpmi too, which is a bit invasive at this stage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but do you consider a change in a language string as a difficult change? i don't
+</I>&gt;<i> have technical skills but i don't think so...
+</I>
+It is not, but this would requires to have every translator to update
+the string, and I think they are already busy on release notes, etc.
+
+I agree that the change seems good ( but I didn't look at the bug ), and
+maybe we should review the various strings.
+
+So IMHO, it is better to fix that after the release, and using a update
+for the stable release would still allow people to benefit from it ( as
+well as newer translations later ).
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+&gt;<i> boklm &lt;boklm&gt; 1:4-36.mga1:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 100565
+</I>&gt;<i> - frites
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+Hey!&#160;How do you dare?
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+<I>Marcello Anni
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+</A><A NAME="5032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="005038.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
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+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="005043.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
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+<I>Stew Benedict
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+
+<LI><A HREF="005025.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<LI><A HREF="005027.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<LI><A HREF="005049.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+</A><A NAME="5055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005021.html">[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings
+</A><A NAME="5021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005023.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
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+<LI><A HREF="005026.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
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+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
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+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
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+<LI><A HREF="005020.html">[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings
+</A><A NAME="5020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005022.html">[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings
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+<I>Ahmad Samir
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+
+<LI><A HREF="005057.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
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+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005039.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005044.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005046.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005048.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005059.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005062.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
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+<I>Michael Scherer
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+</A><A NAME="5037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vasiliy G Tolstov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005041.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vasiliy G Tolstov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005045.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vasiliy G Tolstov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005047.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005050.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="5050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005051.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005052.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005063.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release null-4-36.mga1
+</A><A NAME="5063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005054.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005030.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005035.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005033.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri May 27 23:36:38 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri May 27 23:37:06 CEST 2011</i>
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+
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+ <h1>27 May 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri May 27 00:10:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri May 27 23:36:38 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 44<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005020.html">[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings
+</A><A NAME="5020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005021.html">[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings
+</A><A NAME="5021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005022.html">[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings
+</A><A NAME="5022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005023.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005024.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005025.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005026.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005027.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005028.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005029.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005030.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005031.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005032.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005033.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005034.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005035.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005037.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vasiliy G Tolstov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005036.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005038.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005039.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005040.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005041.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vasiliy G Tolstov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005042.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005043.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stew Benedict
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005044.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005045.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vasiliy G Tolstov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005046.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005047.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005048.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005049.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005050.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="5050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005051.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005052.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005053.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005054.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005055.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005056.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005057.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005058.html">[Mageia-dev] Un-cleaned drak packages
+</A><A NAME="5058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005059.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005060.html">[Mageia-dev] Un-cleaned drak packages
+</A><A NAME="5060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005061.html">[Mageia-dev] Un-cleaned drak packages
+</A><A NAME="5061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005062.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005063.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release null-4-36.mga1
+</A><A NAME="5063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri May 27 23:36:38 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri May 27 23:37:06 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>27 May 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri May 27 00:10:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri May 27 23:36:38 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 44<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005047.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005048.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005052.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005057.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005059.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005063.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release null-4-36.mga1
+</A><A NAME="5063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005023.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005025.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005026.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005027.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005028.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005029.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005050.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="5050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005024.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005030.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005036.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005038.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005043.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stew Benedict
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005020.html">[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings
+</A><A NAME="5020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005021.html">[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings
+</A><A NAME="5021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005022.html">[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings
+</A><A NAME="5022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005033.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005034.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005035.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005040.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005049.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005051.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005053.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005054.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005055.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005056.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005031.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005032.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005046.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005062.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005037.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vasiliy G Tolstov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005039.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005041.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vasiliy G Tolstov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005042.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005044.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005045.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vasiliy G Tolstov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005058.html">[Mageia-dev] Un-cleaned drak packages
+</A><A NAME="5058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005060.html">[Mageia-dev] Un-cleaned drak packages
+</A><A NAME="5060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005061.html">[Mageia-dev] Un-cleaned drak packages
+</A><A NAME="5061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri May 27 23:36:38 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri May 27 23:37:06 CEST 2011</i>
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+ <h1>27 May 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
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+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri May 27 00:10:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri May 27 23:36:38 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 44<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01306447805- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005020.html">[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings
+</A><A NAME="5020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01306457949- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005021.html">[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings
+</A><A NAME="5021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306457949-01306459077- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005022.html">[Mageia-dev] nvidia-settings
+</A><A NAME="5022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306463080- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005023.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306463080-01306463516- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005025.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01306463080-01306463516-01306464474- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005026.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01306463080-01306463516-01306464474-01306465008- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005027.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306463080-01306463516-01306464474-01306465008-01306465750- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005029.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01306463080-01306465257- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005028.html">[Mageia-dev] Alt+ctrl+esc not working in clean kde nstall
+</A><A NAME="5028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306463411- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005024.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306463411-01306475977- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005030.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01306463411-01306475977-01306492384- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005036.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01306463411-01306475977-01306492384-01306492708- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005038.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306463411-01306475977-01306492384-01306492708-01306493995- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005043.html">[Mageia-dev] Need atheros wifi (ath9k) testers
+</A><A NAME="5043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stew Benedict
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306488319- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005031.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306488319-01306489327- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005032.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01306488319-01306489327-01306491262- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005034.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01306488319-01306489327-01306491262-01306491582- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005035.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306488319-01306489327-01306491262-01306491582-01306493037- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005040.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306488319-01306489327-01306491262-01306491582-01306493037-01306495288- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005046.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306488319-01306489327-01306491262-01306491582-01306493037-01306495288-01306496470- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005049.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306488319-01306489327-01306491262-01306491582-01306493037-01306495288-01306496470-01306500551- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005053.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306488319-01306489327-01306491262-01306491582-01306493037-01306495288-01306496470-01306500551-01306501165- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005054.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306488319-01306489327-01306491262-01306491582-01306493037-01306495288-01306496470-01306500551-01306501165-01306503328- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005055.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306488319-01306489327-01306491262-01306491582-01306493037-01306495288-01306496470-01306500551-01306501165-01306503717- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005056.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306488319-01306489327-01306491262-01306491582-01306493037-01306495288-01306496470-01306500551-01306527738- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005062.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306488319-01306489327-01306491262-01306491582-01306493037-01306499341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005051.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01306488319-01306490277- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005033.html">[Mageia-dev] Possible workaround of bug related to Orphans: need opinions
+</A><A NAME="5033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306492012- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005037.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vasiliy G Tolstov
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306492012-01306492941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005039.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01306492012-01306492941-01306493207- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005041.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vasiliy G Tolstov
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01306492012-01306492941-01306493207-01306493299- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005042.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306492012-01306492941-01306493207-01306494917- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005044.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306492012-01306492941-01306493207-01306494917-01306494983- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005045.html">[Mageia-dev] tech question
+</A><A NAME="5045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vasiliy G Tolstov
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306495703- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005047.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306495703-01306496108- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005048.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01306495703-01306496108-01306500209- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005052.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01306495703-01306496108-01306500209-01306513771- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005057.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306495703-01306496108-01306500209-01306525736- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005059.html">[Mageia-dev] [1555] Use /root/.MgaOnline for consistency
+</A><A NAME="5059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306496834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005050.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="5050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01306516113- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005058.html">[Mageia-dev] Un-cleaned drak packages
+</A><A NAME="5058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306516113-01306526283- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005060.html">[Mageia-dev] Un-cleaned drak packages
+</A><A NAME="5060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01306516113-01306526283-01306526697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005061.html">[Mageia-dev] Un-cleaned drak packages
+</A><A NAME="5061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306532198- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005063.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release null-4-36.mga1
+</A><A NAME="5063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri May 27 23:36:38 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri May 27 23:37:06 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
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