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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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Not all ttf fonts have hinting, but AFAIK all the MS +</I>><i> fonts *do* have hinting. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, historically, the recommended approach was to use the PLF freetype *if* +</I>><i> you had imported MS fonts (e.g. from a dual-boot Windows installation). +</I>Well i always avoid using PLF freetype and for what i have read in +ML's all the users that answered to it said that also avoid PLF +freetype. + +So far for hat i have seen, all users prefered like fonts were +rendered wen patents were still valid... + +><i> 2)The Freetype autohinter was implemented later, and improves things for +</I>><i> unhinted fonts, but hinted fonts still looked better with the bytecode +</I>><i> interpreter. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is the problem: +</I>><i> 3)If the bytecode interpreter was enabled, auto-hinting was disabled (or, +</I>><i> could be, for 'medium' and 'heavy' hinting settings) for unhinted fonts. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The Fedora bug isn't about disabling the bytecode interpreter, but by still +</I>><i> allowing auto-hinting for unhinted fonts if the bytecode interpreter. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> *This* is the right fix. Your insistence to *disable* the bytecode interpreter +</I>><i> (leaving users with *no* options, in case they need hinted fonts) is the wrong +</I>><i> fix. +</I>Well this way users cant also set to have autohint, seams theres +always some app failing. + +Why not having it disabled by default? users will always be able to +set their preferences about using or not autohint, but that way +ensures that all fonts are better rended. +All this came up after patents end in wich showed users how fonts +appear poor rended, until that point i didnt saw any complains about +fonts, and this is what should be fixed. + +><i> But, thanks for the pointer to the bug, which points to the patches. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Why dont we also do the same thing? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Since theres users complaining about it, why not solve it once for all? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> Buchan +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Zé +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004656.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004662.html">[Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4660">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4660">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4660">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4660">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |