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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>s&#246;n 2011-05-01 klockan 12:39 +0300 skrev Bruno Cornec:
+&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund said on Sun, May 01, 2011 at 01:56:21AM +0300:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Or simply fixed by adding an epoch
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh, please no !!!
+</I>&gt;<i> Epoch is somewhere the negation of versions. And then you have to
+</I>&gt;<i> embedded it all the time in all packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Epoch was designed for issues when you want to fix versioning or force a
+downgrade.
+
+In this case, you want to fix the versioning as it was done in mdv, and
+from rpm/urpmi point of view force a downgrade
+(2.2.9.5 &lt; 2.29.3)
+
+&gt;<i> I think we should have a rule to avoid as much a possible an epoch.
+</I>
+We do, when it comes to Cauldron -&gt; Cauldron changes/reverts.
+
+But upgrades from stable releases, it will be added if it is needed to
+provide a simple upgrade path, no exceptions.
+
+&gt;<i> Most of the time it's just for avoiding an incompatibility which will
+</I>&gt;<i> force the distribution to keep it for the rest of its life. So adopting
+</I>
+Thats the price you have to pay when you want to alter versioning
+downwards or otherwise fix it...
+
+&gt;<i> one should be only rare, and incompatibilities are generally solved with
+</I>&gt;<i> the +1 version. So if it's documented ...
+</I>
+NO!
+
+rpm/urpmi does not read release notes, errata or other documentation
+(and neither does most endusers)
+
+rpm/urpmi only cares about epoch:version-release
+
+And we stated from the beginning of Mageia that we will support upgrade
+from 2010.1/2
+
+So we dont do exceptions for package(r)s
+
+So, either you or someone else will have to add the epoch to satisfy
+rpm/urpmi upgrade path, and it needs to be done quickly as we are soon
+to enter release freeze and release RC.
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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