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+<PRE>Frank Griffin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 03/26/2011 06:37 PM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> During the times mandriva had several CDs to install it, the new ones
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> often
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> only dl'ed one and complained when stuff didn't work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I forsee possibly here the same issue with this, people will forget to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> download the extra non_free CD, or do not care about non_free; wipe their
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> windows, install mageia, and have no networking to even get drivers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> anymore.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> how would we advertise this anyway? this extra CD contains non_free
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> software,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but if you have an machine with networking from vendor X with types
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Y,Z,...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you will absolutely need this to have functional networking?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it sounds to me like an awful lot of extra work, and complaints, etc...
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, then, maybe what we need to do is say that both ISOs, the 4.7GB
+</I>&gt;<i> primary and the 60 MB(?) secondary ar both required, and let the people
+</I>&gt;<i> who don't need the second one be pleasantly surprised.
+</I>
+Wouldn't it be better that new users be pleasantly surprised by a system
+that installs nicely from a single DVD, and all the hardware &quot;just works&quot; ?
+
+If we want to avoid the situation where people are dissatisfied because
+the DVD they install produces a Mageia system where the hardware doesn't
+work properly, we have to provide a single DVD that is complete, in
+terms of hardware drivers.
+Such cases will produce a lot of negative reaction to Mageia among many
+users.
+Saying that users should install with 2 ISOs may sound great, but many
+will forget the secondary ISO. Why would they expect to need it ? And
+why would they want the hassle of a second ISO, when one is a DVD ?
+A much simpler, ergonomic solution is make space (you suggest 60 M) on
+the DVD for the necessary drivers.
+(That might mean removing 1 or 2 packages that few users would want anyway.)
+At least we will have a product much less likely to give a negative
+reaction.
+Let's face it. The DVD will contain proprietary firmware/drivers
+anyway, so why not include all that is necessary for a properly running
+system ?
+Excluding these drivers just ensures that we will have the reputation of
+not supporting all hardware.
+
+If the community _really_ wants to produce a totally free DVD, it should
+be called &quot;free for experts&quot; accompanied with a &quot;drivers for free for
+experts&quot; CD.
+Of course this DVD will have to have a special kernel, compiled without
+proprietory firmware/drivers. Otherwise it is just an exercice in
+hypocracy.
+But that is another question.
+
+Then we could call the normal DVD &quot;free with proprietory drivers&quot;.
+Of course this normal DVD would only include such proprietory drivers
+where there is not a reliable open source equivalent available.
+We could consider this a sort of &quot;as free as possible in practice&quot; for a
+fully working system, in terms of hardware.
+
+(If we go for the alternate DVD solution, the easiest way is to produce
+the normal DVD with all the drivers, and just exclude the proprietory
+drivers on the other, putting them on the CD. But such as DVD would't
+be totally free.)
+
+BTW, the Mandriva free DVD lacks some necessary drivers, which is really
+a hassle if one doesn't have internet access during install, even for
+advanced Mandriva Linux users.
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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+<PRE>Frank Griffin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 03/26/2011 08:58 PM, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And why should all of us suffer the hassle of a DVD + a CD (how would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> work for all those that use USB-sticks, do they now need two sticks?
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess you must have missed the six or so times I stated that I don't
+</I>&gt;<i> give a rat's whatever about whether there's one ISO or two. Personally,
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd say go with one, and if there's a space issue, go to a DL. But
+</I>&gt;<i> that's a flame war for some other day.....
+</I>
+Good ! That is exactly our point. We _care_ if there is more than 1 ISO
+for the basic install.
+And it doesn't in any way detract from the purist's right to think that
+they are only installing &quot;free&quot; software.
+(Given that even the Linux kernel has non-free components.)
+
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+<PRE>On 27 March 2011 23:02, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And do you have any objective compelling reason to include qt3-devel,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other than an arbitrary reason based on personal preferences ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the same reason that you added Qt3: LSB
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we want to be LSB compliant, it seems reasonable to provide the tools
+</I>&gt;<i> to build LSB-compliant packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And also for qcad.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you think Qt3 is not maintained and should not be supported, then
+</I>&gt;<i> just drop the package...
+</I>&gt;<i> I see no reason for having half of the package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Blin - blino
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+IIRC, stewbintn said qt3 dep will/is planned to be dropped from LSB upstream.
+
+And just so that I make myself clearer, from my POV this thread is not
+about adding, half-adding or half-removing or throwing qt3-devel out
+the window... IMHO this is about whether or not to add Trinity to the
+Mageia repos, that's the more important issue. Given how much a sticky
+situation mdv was in with KDE4 in main and KDE3 in contrib that
+doesn't look like an ideal situation for Mageia (IMHO).
+
+(Also in one of the posts in this thread, someone said Trinity is
+planning port KDE3 apps to Qt4, and here's me thinking that the
+porting-of-kde3-apps-to-Qt4 has already happened in a project called
+KDE4 that made its first initial release on the 11th of January 2008,
+about 3 years ago, c.f.
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Software_Compilation_4....">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Software_Compilation_4....</A>)
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>On 03/27/2011 06:33 PM, andre999 wrote:
+&gt;<i> Frank Griffin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 03/26/2011 06:37 PM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> During the times mandriva had several CDs to install it, the new ones
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> often
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> only dl'ed one and complained when stuff didn't work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I forsee possibly here the same issue with this, people will forget to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> download the extra non_free CD, or do not care about non_free; wipe
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> their
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> windows, install mageia, and have no networking to even get drivers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> anymore.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> how would we advertise this anyway? this extra CD contains non_free
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> software,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but if you have an machine with networking from vendor X with types
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Y,Z,...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you will absolutely need this to have functional networking?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it sounds to me like an awful lot of extra work, and complaints, etc...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, then, maybe what we need to do is say that both ISOs, the 4.7GB
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> primary and the 60 MB(?) secondary ar both required, and let the people
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> who don't need the second one be pleasantly surprised.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wouldn't it be better that new users be pleasantly surprised by a
+</I>&gt;<i> system that installs nicely from a single DVD, and all the hardware
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;just works&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we want to avoid the situation where people are dissatisfied
+</I>&gt;<i> because the DVD they install produces a Mageia system where the
+</I>&gt;<i> hardware doesn't work properly, we have to provide a single DVD that
+</I>&gt;<i> is complete, in terms of hardware drivers.
+</I>
+Please have this conversation with someone who wants to insist on having
+two ISOs. All I've said is that I see no reason why having two ISOs is
+a particular burden on new users, not that I think it's the way to go.
+You can wave the flag all you want about how the poor users would have a
+better install experience with a single ISO, but you haven't quantified
+your argument and I don't care enough about the issue to do so.
+
+I don't consider myself an expert on the reactions of newbies, and given
+that you're on this mailing list, I don't see any reason to consider you
+to be such an expert. If you want to present your bona fides, please do
+so to the marketing group who will presumably decide what any single or
+primary ISO should or should not contain.
+
+I'll say again that I don't care where the additional files come from as
+long as the install takes notice of them if they are there.
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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Good ! That is exactly our point. We _care_ if there is more than 1
+</I>&gt;<i> ISO for the basic install.
+</I>&gt;<i> And it doesn't in any way detract from the purist's right to think
+</I>&gt;<i> that they are only installing &quot;free&quot; software.
+</I>&gt;<i> (Given that even the Linux kernel has non-free components.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, in that case, you want to be arguing with people who care about
+having a single ISO and what should or shouldn't be on it. What I'm
+arguing for is support in the installer for such files if they're
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+&gt;<i> blino &lt;blino&gt; 1:1-14.mga1:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 78203
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove duplicate package entries (it breaks clean-rpmsrate), by removing META_CLASS check
+</I>
+was it not caught by check_rpmsrate which is supposed to be run in %check?
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+&gt;<i> On 28 March 2011 05:01, Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> blino &lt;blino&gt; 1:1-14.mga1:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 78203
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - remove duplicate package entries (it breaks clean-rpmsrate), by removing META_CLASS check
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> was it not caught by check_rpmsrate which is supposed to be run in %check?
+</I>
+Nope, it wasn't.
+check_rpmsrate only uses DrakX's rpmsrate parser, not mkcd's one which
+is stricter (and used by the final clean-rpmsrate)
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+since the package version freeze is coming nearer (April, 20th), perhaps we
+should discuss the &quot;tainted&quot; issue once more.
+
+What is our policy about &quot;tainted packages&quot;? It's quite clear we have to check
+every one of them, if they can be distributed by us, but do we have any
+guidlines?
+
+What about packages, we need twice, once in core, once in tainted (media
+player come to mind)?
+Will the buildsystem be able to create both out of one single src.rpm? If not,
+how else to do it?
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+Oliver
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:06:17AM +0200, Olivier Blin wrote:
+&gt;<i> Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 28 March 2011 05:01, Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; blino &lt;blino&gt; 1:1-14.mga1:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; + Revision: 78203
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - remove duplicate package entries (it breaks clean-rpmsrate), by removing META_CLASS check
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; was it not caught by check_rpmsrate which is supposed to be run in %check?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nope, it wasn't.
+</I>&gt;<i> check_rpmsrate only uses DrakX's rpmsrate parser, not mkcd's one which
+</I>&gt;<i> is stricter (and used by the final clean-rpmsrate)
+</I>
+is there a reason to have 2 parsers ?
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+&gt;<i> blino &lt;blino&gt; 0.16.3-3.mga1:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 78257
+</I>&gt;<i> - add back conflicts, needed because of girepository-1.0/Poppler-0.16.typelib
+</I>
+Then fix installation on a biarch machine...
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - remove duplicate package entries (it breaks clean-rpmsrate), by removing META_CLASS check
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; was it not caught by check_rpmsrate which is supposed to be run in %check?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nope, it wasn't.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> check_rpmsrate only uses DrakX's rpmsrate parser, not mkcd's one which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is stricter (and used by the final clean-rpmsrate)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is there a reason to have 2 parsers ?
+</I>
+We'd a forker in the team :-)
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:17, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> What is our policy about &quot;tainted packages&quot;? It's quite clear we have to check
+</I>&gt;<i> every one of them, if they can be distributed by us, but do we have any
+</I>&gt;<i> guidlines?
+</I>
+The guidelines should be progressive: what goes into core, what goes
+into nonfree, what goes into tainted, and the rest (if there is). I
+guess that's what's needed?
+
+As for guidelines regarding tainted, there's this draft relative to sw
+patents that did not make a lot of progress so far:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=software_patents_policy">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=software_patents_policy</A> . As a more
+general guideline, I'd suggest to wait at least for this evening
+meeting since we will discuss/clear out the issue regarding
+core/nonfree (and hopefully of their respective inclusion on some of
+our releases ISOs).
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+Romain
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+ <B>Olivier Blin</B>
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+
+&gt;<i> On 28 March 2011 10:14, Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> blino &lt;blino&gt; 0.16.3-3.mga1:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 78257
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add back conflicts, needed because of girepository-1.0/Poppler-0.16.typelib
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then fix installation on a biarch machine...
+</I>
+There is no file conflicts between libpopppler i586 and x86_64 packages
+of same major
+
+--
+Olivier Blin - blino
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%20poppler-0.16.3-3.mga1&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D8ezrGQjud1b0aDjX_PjuzqqyzpfZqffj48r2_%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On 28 March 2011 11:31, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> blino &lt;blino&gt; 0.16.3-3.mga1:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 78257
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - add back conflicts, needed because of girepository-1.0/Poppler-0.16.typelib
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Then fix installation on a biarch machine...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no file conflicts between libpopppler i586 and x86_64 packages
+</I>&gt;<i> of same major
+</I>
+blino, you're experienced and you know better than that.
+Upgrade did failed b/c they didn't ended in the same transaction.
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%20poppler-0.16.3-3.mga1&In-Reply-To=%3Cm3k4fjbiqj.fsf%40blino.org%3E"
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+
+&gt;<i> On 28 March 2011 11:31, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> blino &lt;blino&gt; 0.16.3-3.mga1:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 78257
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - add back conflicts, needed because of girepository-1.0/Poppler-0.16.typelib
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Then fix installation on a biarch machine...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is no file conflicts between libpopppler i586 and x86_64 packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of same major
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> blino, you're experienced and you know better than that.
+</I>&gt;<i> Upgrade did failed b/c they didn't ended in the same transaction.
+</I>
+You did not mention upgrade first.
+Any log for the failed upgrade?
+
+--
+Olivier Blin - blino
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> blino &lt;blino&gt; 0.16.3-3.mga1:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 78257
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - add back conflicts, needed because of girepository-1.0/Poppler-0.16.typelib
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Then fix installation on a biarch machine...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is no file conflicts between libpopppler i586 and x86_64 packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of same major
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> blino, you're experienced and you know better than that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Upgrade did failed b/c they didn't ended in the same transaction.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You did not mention upgrade first.
+</I>&gt;<i> Any log for the failed upgrade?
+</I>
+Not anymore.
+Sorry
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Pierre Jarillon at 02/03/11 21:11 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 2 mars 2011 16:29:20, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I guess rpm5 is not for now a priority given the size of pending
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> todo list. Also If we do have a look on it, we will for better have a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> team on it rather than one guy to avoid single point of failure.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Clever decision, I fully agree.
+</I>&gt;<i> Switching to rpm5 was weeks of discussions, troubles and works for Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i> I can guess that rpm5 is better... but better for who ? Users see only a
+</I>&gt;<i> system which works without problems.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note: this is my first post on Mageia. I have installed alpha one on a PC and
+</I>&gt;<i> I find the result is very good. For example I succeded to have the sound on my
+</I>&gt;<i> external Delta44 card. It doesn't work since Mdv 2010.0...
+</I>&gt;<i> I have however found some bugs. Where and how can I report them?
+</I>
+
+Wow, that message must have taken a while to come through :)
+
+The bugzilla is here:
+<A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/">http://bugs.mageia.org/</A>
+
+Cheers :)
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>]
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>]
+ PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>]
+ Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>]
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+ <B>Renaud MICHEL</B>
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+On lundi 28 mars 2011 at 00:33, andre999 wrote :
+&gt;<i> If we want to avoid the situation where people are dissatisfied because
+</I>&gt;<i> the DVD they install produces a Mageia system where the hardware doesn't
+</I>&gt;<i> work properly, we have to provide a single DVD that is complete, in
+</I>&gt;<i> terms of hardware drivers.
+</I>&gt;<i> Such cases will produce a lot of negative reaction to Mageia among many
+</I>&gt;<i> users.
+</I>&gt;<i> Saying that users should install with 2 ISOs may sound great, but many
+</I>&gt;<i> will forget the secondary ISO. Why would they expect to need it ? And
+</I>&gt;<i> why would they want the hassle of a second ISO, when one is a DVD ?
+</I>&gt;<i> A much simpler, ergonomic solution is make space (you suggest 60 M) on
+</I>&gt;<i> the DVD for the necessary drivers.
+</I>&gt;<i> (That might mean removing 1 or 2 packages that few users would want
+</I>&gt;<i> anyway.) At least we will have a product much less likely to give a
+</I>&gt;<i> negative reaction.
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's face it. The DVD will contain proprietary firmware/drivers
+</I>&gt;<i> anyway, so why not include all that is necessary for a properly running
+</I>&gt;<i> system ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Excluding these drivers just ensures that we will have the reputation of
+</I>&gt;<i> not supporting all hardware.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the community really wants to produce a totally free DVD, it should
+</I>&gt;<i> be called &quot;free for experts&quot; accompanied with a &quot;drivers for free for
+</I>&gt;<i> experts&quot; CD.
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course this DVD will have to have a special kernel, compiled without
+</I>&gt;<i> proprietory firmware/drivers. Otherwise it is just an exercice in
+</I>&gt;<i> hypocracy.
+</I>&gt;<i> But that is another question.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then we could call the normal DVD &quot;free with proprietory drivers&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course this normal DVD would only include such proprietory drivers
+</I>&gt;<i> where there is not a reliable open source equivalent available.
+</I>&gt;<i> We could consider this a sort of &quot;as free as possible in practice&quot; for a
+</I>&gt;<i> fully working system, in terms of hardware.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (If we go for the alternate DVD solution, the easiest way is to produce
+</I>&gt;<i> the normal DVD with all the drivers, and just exclude the proprietory
+</I>&gt;<i> drivers on the other, putting them on the CD. But such as DVD would't
+</I>&gt;<i> be totally free.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW, the Mandriva free DVD lacks some necessary drivers, which is really
+</I>&gt;<i> a hassle if one doesn't have internet access during install, even for
+</I>&gt;<i> advanced Mandriva Linux users.
+</I>
+How about adding an initial check to the installer?
+
+A &quot;grey list&quot; of hardware wich requires non-free/tainted components would be
+created, associating the hardware ID with the package(s) containing the
+required components to make it work.
+Maybe that list could be created automatically from the packages?
+Then the installer check the detected hardware against that list before
+asking any other question.
+Then if there is some hardware from the list it will check on its current
+media if the required packages are available, if so the install can go on
+normally, if not the installer inform the user that it is missing some
+driver/firmware/something else to support some hardware, then the user could
+either:
+- immediately add another install media, which would be added to the list of
+available media and the check done again
+- continue anyway (if the user know that he can go on without that hardware)
+- immediately stop the install to go fetch another install media, or an add-
+on driver media.
+
+This way the user does not risk to discover that something doesn't work
+after the install, when it may be too late.
+
+The list could eventually be split between &quot;must have&quot; hardware (network,
+maybe some RAID controller?) and &quot;nice to have hardware&quot; (anything that can
+be configured after install).
+
+Maybe it is too late in the development cycle of the first release to have
+such a change in the installer.
+
+--
+Renaud Michel
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+Version freeze is in 3 weeks. In the meantime, I need to package some
+other ruby modules, but I would like to hear about your needs concerning
+these modules.
+
+At the moment I plan to do the following packages:
+- passenger (a must have IMHO)
+- thin
+- rainbows
+- unicorn
+- gem2rpm (need to integrate the mageia template properly)
+- selenium-webdriver (missing dep, help would be welcome)
+
+- gitorious
+and its dependencies
+- highline
+- hmac
+- geoip
+- stompserver
+- ultrasphinx
+
+I&#8217;m not sure I will have time to have gitorious ready, and I wonder if
+there is much interest in it.
+
+Best regards,
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+<PRE>Le lundi 28 mars 2011 &#224; 22:21 +0200, Remy CLOUARD a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Version freeze is in 3 weeks.
+</I>
+Did we prevent in the past from uploading new packages during version
+freeze ?
+
+&gt;<i> In the meantime, I need to package some
+</I>&gt;<i> other ruby modules, but I would like to hear about your needs concerning
+</I>&gt;<i> these modules.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the moment I plan to do the following packages:
+</I>&gt;<i> - passenger (a must have IMHO)
+</I>&gt;<i> - thin
+</I>&gt;<i> - rainbows
+</I>&gt;<i> - unicorn
+</I>&gt;<i> - gem2rpm (need to integrate the mageia template properly)
+</I>&gt;<i> - selenium-webdriver (missing dep, help would be welcome)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - gitorious
+</I>&gt;<i> and its dependencies
+</I>&gt;<i> - highline
+</I>&gt;<i> - hmac
+</I>&gt;<i> - geoip
+</I>&gt;<i> - stompserver
+</I>&gt;<i> - ultrasphinx
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I&#8217;m not sure I will have time to have gitorious ready, and I wonder if
+</I>&gt;<i> there is much interest in it.
+</I>
+Gitorious is a huge package indeed, with lots of stuff required for
+integration.
+
+Personally, I would be interested in shapado, but I guess I can do the
+work by myself so maybe it is better to find what others want :).
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+<UL>
+<!--1 01301293575-01301299577- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003754.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release meta-task-1-14.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01301293575-01301299577-01301301165- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003756.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release meta-task-1-14.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01301293575-01301299577-01301301165-01301302427- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003758.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release meta-task-1-14.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01301300262- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003755.html">[Mageia-dev] Tainted Software - once more
+</A><A NAME="3755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301300262-01301303031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003759.html">[Mageia-dev] Tainted Software - once more
+</A><A NAME="3759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01301302396- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003757.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release poppler-0.16.3-3.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301302396-01301304706- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003760.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release poppler-0.16.3-3.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01301302396-01301304706-01301305245- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003761.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release poppler-0.16.3-3.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01301302396-01301304706-01301305245-01301310820- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003762.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release poppler-0.16.3-3.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301302396-01301304706-01301305245-01301310820-01301315116- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003763.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release poppler-0.16.3-3.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01301333437- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003774.html">[Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA
+</A><A NAME="3774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01301343673- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003776.html">[Mageia-dev] Request for ruby modules suggestions
+</A><A NAME="3776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301343673-01301346907- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003777.html">[Mageia-dev] Request for ruby modules suggestions
+</A><A NAME="3777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Mar 28 23:15:07 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Mar 28 23:15:10 CEST 2011</i>
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