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+ <B>Tux99</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20qt3-devel%20needed%20for%20Trinitydesktop%20%28KDE%203.5%20successor%29&In-Reply-To=%3C22bd.4d89a5ff%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E"
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+ <I>Wed Mar 23 08:49:21 CET 2011</I>
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+I noticed there is no qt-devel rpm in mageia.
+
+I looked into this further and noticed the following comment in the
+changelog of qt3:
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+Revision 45543 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]
+Modified Mon Jan 31 23:32:27 2011 UTC (7 weeks, 1 day ago) by stewb
+Original Path: cauldron/qt3/current/SPECS/qt3.spec
+File length: 12804 byte(s)
+Diff to previous 45436
+qt3 is blacklisted, build a stripped down version with no -devel (for LSB)
+ <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/qt3/releases/3.3.8b/24.mga1/SPEC">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/qt3/releases/3.3.8b/24.mga1/SPEC</A>
+S/qt3.spec?view=log
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+Can we please reenable the qt3-devel package as it's required to build the
+TrinityDE (www.trinitydesktop.org)
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+Trinitydesktop is being ported to QT4 but current versions still rely on
+QT3 so dropping qt3-devel is premature.
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+Thanks.
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+ <B>L B</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20dropbox%20daemon%20starting%20issue&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik%2BsYXGieZwV7XZPEgbnhpsfK0jaYmbo%2B6qFR8v%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>hello everyone,
+
+i've been testing the mageia alpha-1 and -2 and i stumbled over a weird
+behaviour of my lovely dropbox client.
+(dropbox is a sync service) the client is available for fedora and ubuntu
+and as tar archive for compilation.
+
+the package as the comiled sources don't do very much, they only download
+and install the actual dropbox daemon which is closed source.
+it works fine on ubuntu but not on mageia :/
+
+the installed menuitem doesn't do anything and the console application is
+just acting weird.
+
+the command list:
+$ dropbox
+Dropbox command-line interface
+
+commands:
+
+Note: use dropbox help &lt;command&gt; to view usage for a specific command.
+
+ status get current status of the dropboxd
+ help provide help
+ puburl get public url of a file in your dropbox
+ stop stop dropboxd
+ running return whether dropbox is running
+ start start dropboxd
+ filestatus get current sync status of one or more files
+ ls list directory contents with current sync status
+ autostart automatically start dropbox at login
+ exclude ignores/excludes a directory from syncing
+
+i think the daemon wasn't installed correctly ( although i tried it several
+times ) because every command just throws errors.
+e.g.:
+$ dropbox start
+Dropbox isn't responding!
+Dropbox is already running!
+
+
+$ dropbox filestatus
+Traceback (most recent call last):
+ File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 1242, in &lt;module&gt;
+ ret = main(sys.argv)
+ File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 1231, in main
+ result = commands[argv[i]](argv[i+1:])
+ File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 604, in newmeth
+ return meth(*n, **kw)
+ File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 860, in filestatus
+ status = dc.icon_overlay_file_status(path=fp).get(u'status',
+[u'unknown'])[0]
+ File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 575, in __spec_command
+ return self.send_command(unicode(name), kw)
+ File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 533, in send_command
+ ok = self.__readline() == u&quot;ok&quot;
+ File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 509, in __readline
+ raise DropboxCommand.BadConnectionError()
+__main__.BadConnectionError
+
+or my favorite:
+
+$ dropbox start --install
+Dropbox isn't running!
+Dropbox is already running!
+
+does anybody maybe have the same problems or any solution hints for this?
+
+thank you.
+
+lb
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+ <B>Andres Kaaber</B>
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+<PRE>Works fine here. I use it with kfilebox.
+
+2011/3/23 L B &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luke.b3103 at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> hello everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i> i've been testing the mageia alpha-1 and -2 and i stumbled over a weird
+</I>&gt;<i> behaviour of my lovely dropbox client.
+</I>&gt;<i> (dropbox is a sync service) the client is available for fedora and ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> and as tar archive for compilation.
+</I>&gt;<i> the package as the comiled sources don't do very much, they only download
+</I>&gt;<i> and install the actual dropbox daemon which is closed source.
+</I>&gt;<i> it works fine on ubuntu but not on mageia :/
+</I>&gt;<i> the installed menuitem doesn't do anything and the console application is
+</I>&gt;<i> just acting weird.
+</I>&gt;<i> the command list:
+</I>&gt;<i> $ dropbox
+</I>&gt;<i> Dropbox command-line interface
+</I>&gt;<i> commands:
+</I>&gt;<i> Note: use dropbox help &lt;command&gt; to view usage for a specific command.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;status &#160; &#160; &#160; get current status of the dropboxd
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;help &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; provide help
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;puburl &#160; &#160; &#160; get public url of a file in your dropbox
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;stop &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; stop dropboxd
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;running &#160; &#160; &#160;return whether dropbox is running
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;start &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;start dropboxd
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;filestatus &#160; get current sync status of one or more files
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;ls &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; list directory contents with current sync status
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;autostart &#160; &#160;automatically start dropbox at login
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;exclude &#160; &#160; &#160;ignores/excludes a directory from syncing
+</I>&gt;<i> i think the daemon wasn't installed correctly ( although i tried it several
+</I>&gt;<i> times ) because every command just throws errors.
+</I>&gt;<i> e.g.:
+</I>&gt;<i> $ dropbox start
+</I>&gt;<i> Dropbox isn't responding!
+</I>&gt;<i> Dropbox is already running!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ dropbox filestatus
+</I>&gt;<i> Traceback (most recent call last):
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160;File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 1242, in &lt;module&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160; &#160;ret = main(sys.argv)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160;File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 1231, in main
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160; &#160;result = commands[argv[i]](argv[i+1:])
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160;File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 604, in newmeth
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160; &#160;return meth(*n, **kw)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160;File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 860, in filestatus
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160; &#160;status = dc.icon_overlay_file_status(path=fp).get(u'status',
+</I>&gt;<i> [u'unknown'])[0]
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160;File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 575, in __spec_command
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160; &#160;return self.send_command(unicode(name), kw)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160;File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 533, in send_command
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160; &#160;ok = self.__readline() == u&quot;ok&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160;File &quot;/usr/bin/dropbox&quot;, line 509, in __readline
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&#160; &#160;raise DropboxCommand.BadConnectionError()
+</I>&gt;<i> __main__.BadConnectionError
+</I>&gt;<i> or my favorite:
+</I>&gt;<i> $ dropbox start --install
+</I>&gt;<i> Dropbox isn't running!
+</I>&gt;<i> Dropbox is already running!
+</I>&gt;<i> does anybody maybe have the same problems or any solution hints for this?
+</I>&gt;<i> thank you.
+</I>&gt;<i> lb
+</I>
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+desktop.
+but i will try if the kfilebox works there as well.
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 23 March 2011 04:49:21, Tux99 wrote:
+&gt;<i> I noticed there is no qt-devel rpm in mageia.
+</I>[...]
+If i'm not wrong qt3 was simply wrongly imported &amp; pushed.
+Also no apps seems to requires it at all (especially when there's no -devel to
+link against it)
+I would suggest to drop it at all in fact.
+&gt;<i> Can we please reenable the qt3-devel package as it's required to build the
+</I>&gt;<i> TrinityDE (www.trinitydesktop.org)
+</I>Did you rebuild qt3 locally &amp; the whole trinityDE with sucess ?
+Maybe we can simply wait for the migration to Qt4 instead of importing/linking
+again Qt3 before obsoleting it in 6 months ?
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 23 March 2011 04:49:21, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I noticed there is no qt-devel rpm in mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> If i'm not wrong qt3 was simply wrongly imported &amp; pushed.
+</I>&gt;<i> Also no apps seems to requires it at all (especially when there's no -devel
+</I>&gt;<i> to link against it)
+</I>Hum i forgot LSB test while writing :)
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+Quote: Balcaen John wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 11:37
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Can we please reenable the qt3-devel package as it's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; required to build the TrinityDE (www.trinitydesktop.org)
+</I>&gt;<i> Did you rebuild qt3 locally &amp; the whole trinityDE with sucess ?
+</I>
+Yes I just rebuilt qt3 locally with -devel with the intention to build
+TrinityDE. I don't see any reason why TrinityDE shouldn't build, it builds
+on many current distros since it's being actively developed on current
+distros.
+
+&gt;<i> Maybe we can simply wait for the migration to Qt4 instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> importing/linking again Qt3 before obsoleting it in 6 months ?
+</I>
+The migration to QT4 looks like a long process. In the meantime there is an
+actively maintained current version of TrinityDE (3.5.12) which I want to
+use and I imagine there are surely other people who still prefer the look
+and feel and performance of KDE3.5 upon which TrinityDE is based.
+
+Version 3.5.12 was just released a couple of weeks ago:
+<A HREF="http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php">http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php</A>
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+on the same system because of conflicts. But why, when I try to update
+a system with virtualbox installed and vboxadditions not installed, do I
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ftgme2</A> release]# rpm -qa dkms-vboxadditions
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ftgme2</A> release]# rpm -qa dkms-virtualbox
+dkms-virtualbox-4.0.4-6.mga1
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ftgme2</A> release]# urpmi --auto-select --keep
+A requested package cannot be installed:
+dkms-vboxadditions-4.0.4-6.mga1.x86_64 (in order to keep
+dkms-virtualbox-4.0.4-6.mga1.x86_64)
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+Quote: tux99 wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 13:18
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Version 3.5.12 was just released a couple of weeks ago:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php">http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php</A>
+</I>
+Actually I confused the date :) the current version was released last
+October.
+
+Anyway that doesn't change the fact that QT4 support is still nowhere near
+(the roadmap has it for 2012) and in the meantime I would like to have the
+current version on Mageia.
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+&gt;<i> I understand that virtualbox and vbox additions cannot both be
+</I>&gt;<i> installed on the same system because of conflicts. But why, when I
+</I>&gt;<i> try to update a system with virtualbox installed and vboxadditions not
+</I>&gt;<i> installed, do I get prompts about vboxadditions not being installable
+</I>&gt;<i> ? What is asking for it ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For example:
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+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ftgme2</A> release]# rpm -qa dkms-vboxadditions
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ftgme2</A> release]# rpm -qa dkms-virtualbox
+</I>&gt;<i> dkms-virtualbox-4.0.4-6.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ftgme2</A> release]# urpmi --auto-select --keep
+</I>&gt;<i> A requested package cannot be installed:
+</I>&gt;<i> dkms-vboxadditions-4.0.4-6.mga1.x86_64 (in order to keep
+</I>&gt;<i> dkms-virtualbox-4.0.4-6.mga1.x86_64)
+</I>&gt;<i> Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
+</I>
+Don't you have x11 packages for vbox guest installed?
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+</I>&gt;<i> Don't you have x11 packages for vbox guest installed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That was it, thanks.
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+Apparently virtualbox-additions and the x11 package were forced on
+during my post-installation processing. Is there an rpm or urpmq query
+that will highlight conflicts between installed packages on a system ?
+For example, if I installed dkms-virtualbox and then installed
+dkms-vboxadditions with --force, is there a query which would report
+that these two are in conflict ?
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+My post-installation processing installs over 1000 additional packages
+to bring a fresh system up to the state of the system it is replacing,
+and --force is necessary to prevent scores of bogus prompts. It would
+be convenient to be able to detect the remaining conflicts once the dust
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+Here are topics for our next meeting tonight, 20h UTC on #mageia-dev:
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+- review of mentoring in progress
+- review of current repositories: packagers, packages, missing one, updates...
+- next test day
+- preparing upgrade from mdv 2010.1(2) to Mageia
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+Did last week's meeting not happen?
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+There are no logs for it:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2011/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2011/</A>
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+Unfortunately I can never participate at 20h UTC, but I do like to read the
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+</I>&gt;<i> Did last week's meeting not happen?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are no logs for it:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2011/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2011/</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately I can never participate at 20h UTC, but I do like to read the
+</I>&gt;<i> logs afterwards.
+</I>
+was canceled last week because of unavailability
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+Tux99 wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Quote: tux99 wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 13:18
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Version 3.5.12 was just released a couple of weeks ago:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php">http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually I confused the date :) the current version was released last
+</I>&gt;<i> October.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway that doesn't change the fact that QT4 support is still nowhere
+</I>&gt;<i> near (the roadmap has it for 2012) and in the meantime I would like to
+</I>&gt;<i> have the current version on Mageia.
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> &quot;Romain d'Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; + Build 1a0 (context diff w/ build 199) &#8211; 2011-03-14 23:03:15
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;o DVD i586, build ok (log), tests failed (log),
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;cauldron-2-dvd-i586-1a0-qafail.iso
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;o DVD x86_64, build ok (log), tests ok (log),
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;cauldron-2-dvd-i586-1a0-ok.iso
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;o CD dual, build failed (log)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;o building netinstall image...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You probably want to list live CDs here as well.
+</I>
+Among others, yes. It depends on several things.
+
+But let me continue in a different way then. For each major step:
+ * how could I get/gather/query those values? I guess for most of
+these, we'd need to setup a service to check and publish these, but to
+start easy, what would be already available?
+ * what useful metrics are missing (and same question as above)?
+ * what metrics are useless (and why)?
+
+For instance, using a HTTP GET to query, let me focus on these:
+ * buildsystem: what values could I get already?
+ * source packages: where could I get the number of packages, the size
+of the whole thing? orphan status will come out maintdb which is
+mostly ready; open bugs would come from Bugzilla or a proxy service;
+what about rpmlint reports?
+ * compiled packages: where/how could I get repository size, number of
+packages? hdlist status? signatures status? dependencies?
+
+That would be a start, both to push some live data into this prototype
+(querying all values every two hours for instance, and keeping track
+of them) and to start thinking of setting up additional
+services/checks.
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:35:05 +0100 (CET)
+</I>&gt;<i> Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Quote: tux99 wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 13:18
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Version 3.5.12 was just released a couple of weeks ago:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php">http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Actually I confused the date :) &#160;the current version was released last
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> October.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway that doesn't change the fact that QT4 support is still nowhere
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> near (the roadmap has it for 2012) and in the meantime I would like to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have the current version on Mageia.
+</I>
+Roadmap is outdated atm.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> John
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+Trinity Qt4 support is experimental, you can see it in SVN.trinitydesktop.org
+And truthfully, if you want to bring Trinity to Mageia, you should
+wait for release 3.5.13 - because with an autoconf &gt; 2.63, the build
+breaks.
+
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+Quote: Robert Xu wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 16:09
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+&gt;<i> Trinity Qt4 support is experimental, you can see it in
+</I>&gt;<i> SVN.trinitydesktop.org
+</I>
+I'm aware of that, that's why I said we need qt3-devel re-enabled in the
+QT3 package.
+I don't want to build the current version with experimental QT4 support.
+
+&gt;<i> And truthfully, if you want to bring Trinity to Mageia, you should
+</I>&gt;<i> wait for release 3.5.13 - because with an autoconf &gt; 2.63, the build
+</I>&gt;<i> breaks.
+</I>
+I'm aware of the autoconf issue but I found a workaround [1] and I have
+managed to build a libtqtinterface RPM so far with the workaround.
+
+Are you a TrinityDE developer?
+I saw your name on the trinity-dev ML.
+If yes then maybe you could be a great help for packaging up TrinityDE on
+Mageia, if you feel like helping with it. :)
+
+Do you know when 3.5.13 will be released? Is the release imminent?
+If it's imminent then I agree it's best to wait.
+
+[1]
+<A HREF="http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/packages/libtqtinter">http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/packages/libtqtinter</A>
+face/libtqtinterface.spec
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+maintdb is making some progress and we could test it already with the
+buildsystem to push it some data.
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+Here is how it works so far:
+ * a package P gets submitted by ennael;
+ * buildsystem builds it;
+ * buildsystem POSTs (P, ennael) to maintdb;
+ * maintdb keeps a record of that;
+ * as a default, ennael (first person to push the package) is the
+official maintainer of the package; later people pushing the same
+package would be co-maintainer;
+ * we will implement in maintdb a method to manually change that
+(assigning maintainance to someone specific);
+ * we can envision maintdb to keep stats of submissions as well.
+
+Maintdb dev instance is here: <A HREF="http://www.maintdb2.mageia.org.uk/">http://www.maintdb2.mageia.org.uk/</A>
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+(see current spec on
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:maintdb#specs_actions">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:maintdb#specs_actions</A> )
+
+Misc righly pointed out that:
+ * someone triggering a massive rebuild may not want to be seen as a
+maintainer of packages uploaded by this; several possible solutions:
+ - first uploader is set as the maintainer by default;
+ - this will be manually editable from the maintdb app anyway;
+ - would a specific flag be raised in the buildsystem (or a package)
+when such a massive rebuild is triggered?
+ - instead of strict associations, we can associate maintainership
+by frequency of uploads/activity on a given package (unless massive
+rebuilds are triggered more often by a single packager than &quot;regular&quot;
+package uploads by the actual maintainer)
+ * submissions stats publishing may require your validation (and
+actually, for that specifically and future topics, we'll need to see
+how we can publish contributors activity stats through our platform -
+as a de-facto feature or as a preference, per contributor).
+
+Anyway, in all that, we need your input.
+
+Thanks!
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+Romain
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+</I>&gt;<i> Misc righly pointed out that:
+</I>&gt;<i> * someone triggering a massive rebuild may not want to be seen as a
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer of packages uploaded by this; several possible solutions:
+</I>&gt;<i> - first uploader is set as the maintainer by default;
+</I>&gt;<i> - this will be manually editable from the maintdb app anyway;
+</I>&gt;<i> - would a specific flag be raised in the buildsystem (or a package)
+</I>&gt;<i> when such a massive rebuild is triggered?
+</I>&gt;<i> - instead of strict associations, we can associate maintainership
+</I>&gt;<i> by frequency of uploads/activity on a given package (unless massive
+</I>&gt;<i> rebuilds are triggered more often by a single packager than &quot;regular&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> package uploads by the actual maintainer)
+</I>&gt;<i> * submissions stats publishing may require your validation (and
+</I>&gt;<i> actually, for that specifically and future topics, we'll need to see
+</I>&gt;<i> how we can publish contributors activity stats through our platform -
+</I>&gt;<i> as a de-facto feature or as a preference, per contributor).
+</I>
+I think submissions stats can be interesting to keep, to see who is the
+most active on a package. But comaintainers should not be added
+automatically when package is submitted by someone. For instance you
+don't want to become comaintainer of a package because you fixed a typo
+in the description.
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+I think becoming comaintainer should be something that you decide, not
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+ <B>Robert Xu</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:08, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I'm aware of the autoconf issue but I found a workaround [1] and I have
+</I>&gt;<i> managed to build a libtqtinterface RPM so far with the workaround.
+</I>
+I recommend seeing this message:
+<A HREF="http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::593">http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::593</A>
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are you a TrinityDE developer?
+</I>&gt;<i> I saw your name on the trinity-dev ML.
+</I>&gt;<i> If yes then maybe you could be a great help for packaging up TrinityDE on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia, if you feel like helping with it. :)
+</I>
+I do it for Fedora, and partially for openSUSE with the KDE:KDE3 maintainer.
+I was going to do some for Mandriva, but I've got a lot on my hands
+and not a lot of experience with Mandriva/Mageia macros and that
+stuff, so I can help, but someone else has to maintain the spec ;)
+
+(PM me for more info on packaging Trinity, including write access to
+the trinity's SVN for packaging)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you know when 3.5.13 will be released? Is the release imminent?
+</I>&gt;<i> If it's imminent then I agree it's best to wait.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Sadly, no. The real goal of 3.5.13 at the moment is porting to cmake,
+which is a long and tedious process.
+If anyone knew cmake well, i'm sure we could speed up the process dramatically.
+
+3.5.14 and 3.5.15 will bring the depreciation of hal and the migration
+to qt4, respectively (AFAIK)
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+--
+later, Robert Xu
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+ <B>Dexter Morgan</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Quote: Robert Xu wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 16:09
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trinity Qt4 support is experimental, you can see it in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SVN.trinitydesktop.org
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm aware of that, that's why I said we need qt3-devel re-enabled in the
+</I>&gt;<i> QT3 package.
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't want to build the current version with experimental QT4 support.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And truthfully, if you want to bring Trinity to Mageia, you should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wait for release 3.5.13 - because with an autoconf &gt; 2.63, the build
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> breaks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm aware of the autoconf issue but I found a workaround [1] and I have
+</I>&gt;<i> managed to build a libtqtinterface RPM so far with the workaround.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are you a TrinityDE developer?
+</I>&gt;<i> I saw your name on the trinity-dev ML.
+</I>&gt;<i> If yes then maybe you could be a great help for packaging up TrinityDE on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia, if you feel like helping with it. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you know when 3.5.13 will be released? Is the release imminent?
+</I>&gt;<i> If it's imminent then I agree it's best to wait.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1]
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/packages/libtqtinter">http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/packages/libtqtinter</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> face/libtqtinterface.spec
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia ML Forum Gateway: <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi,
+
+After looking to the source tarball which is huge ( 600 Mo ), I see some pbs:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorgan at localhost</A> kde_trinity_3_5_11]$ ls
+applications/ kdeaccessibility/ kdeadmin/ kdebase/
+kde-common/ kdegames/ kde-i18n/ kdemultimedia/ kdepim/
+kdetoys/ kdevelop/ konstruct/
+dependencies/ kdeaddons/ kdeartwork/ kdebindings/ kdeedu/
+ kdegraphics/ kdelibs/ kdenetwork/ kdesdk/ kdeutils/
+kdewebdev/ libraries/
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorgan at localhost</A> kde_trinity_3_5_11]$ ls applications/
+abakus/ gtk-qt-engine/ kde-guidance/
+kile/ knights/ ksplash-engine-moodin/ rosegarden/
+adept/ gwenview/ kde-style-lipstik/
+kima/ knowit/ ksquirrel/
+smartcardauth/
+amarok/ k3b/ kde-style-qtcurve/
+kio-apt/ knutclient/ ksystemlog/ smb4k/
+basket/ k9copy/ kdesudo/
+kio-locate/ koffice/ ktechlab/
+soundkonverter/
+compizconfig-backend-kconfig/ kaffeine/ kdesvn/
+kio-umountwrapper/ konversation/ ktorrent/ tellico/
+desktop-effects-kde/ kaffeine-mozilla/ kde-systemsettings/
+kmplayer/ kopete-otr/ kuickshow/
+wlassistant/
+digikam/ katapult/ kdiff3/
+kmyfirewall/ kpicosim/ kvirc/ yakuake/
+dolphin/ kbarcode/ kdirstat/
+knemo/ kpowersave/ kvkbd/
+filelight/ kbfx/ kdmtheme/
+knetload/ kradio/ kwin-style-crystal/
+filelight-l10n/ kchmviewer/ kdpkg/
+knetstats/ krename/ piklab/
+fusion-icon/ kcpuload/ keep/
+knetworkmanager/ krusader/ potracegui/
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorgan at localhost</A> kde_trinity_3_5_11]$
+
+The issues we see that are blocking are :
+
+we can't/won't package/add twice the same apps, one for TDE and one
+for KDE and this issue is a blocker one.
+
+I would prefer to see TDE in a external repository for now. ( i.e you
+work locally to reenable qt3, package TDE, ... and then we can start
+to review all this and talk about integration in mageia )
+
+This will mess with menus too because users will have 2 times the
+icons of K3b, and can lead to deps issues, files conflicts, how is
+called K3b binary files ? k3b ? so it will conflict with &quot;normal&quot; k3b
+and so on for the other apps.
+
+For Robert Xu on opensuse this is a completly != issue as repos are
+&quot;seperated&quot;, but that would be nice to have a 3rd &quot;external&quot; repo for
+this :)
+
+My 2cts
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+ <B>Robert Xu</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 13:46, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Quote: Robert Xu wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 16:09
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Trinity Qt4 support is experimental, you can see it in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> SVN.trinitydesktop.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm aware of that, that's why I said we need qt3-devel re-enabled in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> QT3 package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't want to build the current version with experimental QT4 support.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And truthfully, if you want to bring Trinity to Mageia, you should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wait for release 3.5.13 - because with an autoconf &gt; 2.63, the build
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> breaks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm aware of the autoconf issue but I found a workaround [1] and I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> managed to build a libtqtinterface RPM so far with the workaround.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are you a TrinityDE developer?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I saw your name on the trinity-dev ML.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If yes then maybe you could be a great help for packaging up TrinityDE on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia, if you feel like helping with it. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you know when 3.5.13 will be released? Is the release imminent?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If it's imminent then I agree it's best to wait.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [1]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/packages/libtqtinter">http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/packages/libtqtinter</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> face/libtqtinterface.spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia ML Forum Gateway: <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After looking to the source tarball which is huge ( 600 Mo ), I see some pbs:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorgan at localhost</A> kde_trinity_3_5_11]$ ls
+</I>&gt;<i> applications/ &#160;kdeaccessibility/ &#160;kdeadmin/ &#160; &#160;kdebase/
+</I>&gt;<i> kde-common/ &#160;kdegames/ &#160; &#160; kde-i18n/ &#160;kdemultimedia/ &#160;kdepim/
+</I>&gt;<i> kdetoys/ &#160; kdevelop/ &#160; konstruct/
+</I>&gt;<i> dependencies/ &#160;kdeaddons/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kdeartwork/ &#160;kdebindings/ &#160;kdeedu/
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;kdegraphics/ &#160;kdelibs/ &#160; kdenetwork/ &#160; &#160; kdesdk/ &#160;kdeutils/
+</I>&gt;<i> kdewebdev/ &#160;libraries/
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorgan at localhost</A> kde_trinity_3_5_11]$ ls applications/
+</I>&gt;<i> abakus/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;gtk-qt-engine/ &#160; &#160; kde-guidance/
+</I>&gt;<i> kile/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; knights/ &#160; &#160; &#160; ksplash-engine-moodin/ &#160;rosegarden/
+</I>&gt;<i> adept/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; gwenview/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kde-style-lipstik/
+</I>&gt;<i> kima/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; knowit/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;ksquirrel/
+</I>&gt;<i> smartcardauth/
+</I>&gt;<i> amarok/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;k3b/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kde-style-qtcurve/
+</I>&gt;<i> kio-apt/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;knutclient/ &#160; &#160;ksystemlog/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; smb4k/
+</I>&gt;<i> basket/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;k9copy/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kdesudo/
+</I>&gt;<i> kio-locate/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; koffice/ &#160; &#160; &#160; ktechlab/
+</I>&gt;<i> soundkonverter/
+</I>&gt;<i> compizconfig-backend-kconfig/ &#160;kaffeine/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kdesvn/
+</I>&gt;<i> kio-umountwrapper/ &#160;konversation/ &#160;ktorrent/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; tellico/
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop-effects-kde/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kaffeine-mozilla/ &#160;kde-systemsettings/
+</I>&gt;<i> kmplayer/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kopete-otr/ &#160; &#160;kuickshow/
+</I>&gt;<i> wlassistant/
+</I>&gt;<i> digikam/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; katapult/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kdiff3/
+</I>&gt;<i> kmyfirewall/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kpicosim/ &#160; &#160; &#160;kvirc/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;yakuake/
+</I>&gt;<i> dolphin/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kbarcode/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kdirstat/
+</I>&gt;<i> knemo/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kpowersave/ &#160; &#160;kvkbd/
+</I>&gt;<i> filelight/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kbfx/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kdmtheme/
+</I>&gt;<i> knetload/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kradio/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kwin-style-crystal/
+</I>&gt;<i> filelight-l10n/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kchmviewer/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kdpkg/
+</I>&gt;<i> knetstats/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;krename/ &#160; &#160; &#160; piklab/
+</I>&gt;<i> fusion-icon/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kcpuload/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;keep/
+</I>&gt;<i> knetworkmanager/ &#160; &#160;krusader/ &#160; &#160; &#160;potracegui/
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorgan at localhost</A> kde_trinity_3_5_11]$
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The issues we see that are blocking are :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we can't/won't package/add &#160;twice the same apps, one for TDE and one
+</I>&gt;<i> for KDE and this issue is a blocker one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would prefer to see TDE in a external repository for now. ( i.e you
+</I>&gt;<i> work locally to reenable qt3, package TDE, ... and then we can start
+</I>&gt;<i> to review all this and talk about integration in mageia )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This will mess with menus too because users will have 2 times the
+</I>&gt;<i> icons of K3b, and can lead to deps issues, files conflicts, how is
+</I>&gt;<i> called K3b binary files ? k3b ? so it will conflict with &quot;normal&quot; k3b
+</I>&gt;<i> and so on for the other apps.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For Robert Xu on opensuse this is a completly != issue as repos are
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;seperated&quot;, but that would be nice to have a 3rd &quot;external&quot; repo for
+</I>&gt;<i> this :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My 2cts
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+You're looking at the 3.5.11 tarball :P
+Try looking here:
+<A HREF="http://ppa2.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/redirect.php?file=releases/3.5.12/downloads.html">http://ppa2.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/redirect.php?file=releases/3.5.12/downloads.html</A>
+
+--
+later, Robert Xu
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Robert Xu</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20qt3-devel%20needed%20for%20Trinitydesktop%20%28KDE%203.5%0A%09successor%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikUEspNPq0FKL1uCoUnM8gZXXa7SKf%3DB0k8yrze%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+ <I>Wed Mar 23 18:49:23 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 13:46, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Quote: Robert Xu wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 16:09
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Trinity Qt4 support is experimental, you can see it in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> SVN.trinitydesktop.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm aware of that, that's why I said we need qt3-devel re-enabled in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> QT3 package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't want to build the current version with experimental QT4 support.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And truthfully, if you want to bring Trinity to Mageia, you should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wait for release 3.5.13 - because with an autoconf &gt; 2.63, the build
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> breaks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm aware of the autoconf issue but I found a workaround [1] and I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> managed to build a libtqtinterface RPM so far with the workaround.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are you a TrinityDE developer?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I saw your name on the trinity-dev ML.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If yes then maybe you could be a great help for packaging up TrinityDE on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia, if you feel like helping with it. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you know when 3.5.13 will be released? Is the release imminent?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If it's imminent then I agree it's best to wait.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [1]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/packages/libtqtinter">http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/packages/libtqtinter</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> face/libtqtinterface.spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia ML Forum Gateway: <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After looking to the source tarball which is huge ( 600 Mo ), I see some pbs:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorgan at localhost</A> kde_trinity_3_5_11]$ ls
+</I>&gt;<i> applications/ &#160;kdeaccessibility/ &#160;kdeadmin/ &#160; &#160;kdebase/
+</I>&gt;<i> kde-common/ &#160;kdegames/ &#160; &#160; kde-i18n/ &#160;kdemultimedia/ &#160;kdepim/
+</I>&gt;<i> kdetoys/ &#160; kdevelop/ &#160; konstruct/
+</I>&gt;<i> dependencies/ &#160;kdeaddons/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kdeartwork/ &#160;kdebindings/ &#160;kdeedu/
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;kdegraphics/ &#160;kdelibs/ &#160; kdenetwork/ &#160; &#160; kdesdk/ &#160;kdeutils/
+</I>&gt;<i> kdewebdev/ &#160;libraries/
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorgan at localhost</A> kde_trinity_3_5_11]$ ls applications/
+</I>&gt;<i> abakus/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;gtk-qt-engine/ &#160; &#160; kde-guidance/
+</I>&gt;<i> kile/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; knights/ &#160; &#160; &#160; ksplash-engine-moodin/ &#160;rosegarden/
+</I>&gt;<i> adept/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; gwenview/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kde-style-lipstik/
+</I>&gt;<i> kima/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; knowit/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;ksquirrel/
+</I>&gt;<i> smartcardauth/
+</I>&gt;<i> amarok/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;k3b/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kde-style-qtcurve/
+</I>&gt;<i> kio-apt/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;knutclient/ &#160; &#160;ksystemlog/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; smb4k/
+</I>&gt;<i> basket/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;k9copy/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kdesudo/
+</I>&gt;<i> kio-locate/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; koffice/ &#160; &#160; &#160; ktechlab/
+</I>&gt;<i> soundkonverter/
+</I>&gt;<i> compizconfig-backend-kconfig/ &#160;kaffeine/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kdesvn/
+</I>&gt;<i> kio-umountwrapper/ &#160;konversation/ &#160;ktorrent/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; tellico/
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop-effects-kde/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kaffeine-mozilla/ &#160;kde-systemsettings/
+</I>&gt;<i> kmplayer/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kopete-otr/ &#160; &#160;kuickshow/
+</I>&gt;<i> wlassistant/
+</I>&gt;<i> digikam/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; katapult/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kdiff3/
+</I>&gt;<i> kmyfirewall/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kpicosim/ &#160; &#160; &#160;kvirc/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;yakuake/
+</I>&gt;<i> dolphin/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kbarcode/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kdirstat/
+</I>&gt;<i> knemo/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kpowersave/ &#160; &#160;kvkbd/
+</I>&gt;<i> filelight/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kbfx/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kdmtheme/
+</I>&gt;<i> knetload/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kradio/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kwin-style-crystal/
+</I>&gt;<i> filelight-l10n/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kchmviewer/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kdpkg/
+</I>&gt;<i> knetstats/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;krename/ &#160; &#160; &#160; piklab/
+</I>&gt;<i> fusion-icon/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; kcpuload/ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;keep/
+</I>&gt;<i> knetworkmanager/ &#160; &#160;krusader/ &#160; &#160; &#160;potracegui/
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorgan at localhost</A> kde_trinity_3_5_11]$
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The issues we see that are blocking are :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we can't/won't package/add &#160;twice the same apps, one for TDE and one
+</I>&gt;<i> for KDE and this issue is a blocker one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would prefer to see TDE in a external repository for now. ( i.e you
+</I>&gt;<i> work locally to reenable qt3, package TDE, ... and then we can start
+</I>&gt;<i> to review all this and talk about integration in mageia )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This will mess with menus too because users will have 2 times the
+</I>&gt;<i> icons of K3b, and can lead to deps issues, files conflicts, how is
+</I>&gt;<i> called K3b binary files ? k3b ? so it will conflict with &quot;normal&quot; k3b
+</I>&gt;<i> and so on for the other apps.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For Robert Xu on opensuse this is a completly != issue as repos are
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;seperated&quot;, but that would be nice to have a 3rd &quot;external&quot; repo for
+</I>&gt;<i> this :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My 2cts
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+And I hate to double post, but I do know that the %configure_kde3
+macro should point to /opt/kde3... :)
+
+--
+later, Robert Xu
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+ <I>Wed Mar 23 19:22:08 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And I hate to double post, but I do know that the %configure_kde3
+</I>&gt;<i> macro should point to /opt/kde3... :)
+</I>
+So that means that all KDE applications will be twice on the repository,
+one for KDE4, and one for TDE ? I think that can be confusing for users.
+
+Packaging and maintaining this is probably a huge task, and can maybe
+cause problems to KDE users if only done half, or incorrectly. I think
+it would be better to start with an external repository. And only import
+on the main repository once everything is working and we have someone
+who plans to maintain it.
+
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+Quote: nicolas vigier wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 19:22
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And I hate to double post, but I do know that the %configure_kde3
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; macro should point to /opt/kde3... :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So that means that all KDE applications will be twice on the
+</I>&gt;<i> repository,
+</I>&gt;<i> one for KDE4, and one for TDE ? I think that can be confusing for
+</I>&gt;<i> users.
+</I>
+KDE3 and KDE4 have coexisted perfectly happily in Mandriva 2009.1 and
+2010.0.
+I don't see why that should be a problem with TDE and KDE4 in Mageia.
+
+Robert Xu wrote:
+&gt;<i> I recommend seeing this message:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::593">http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::593</A>
+</I>
+Thanks, I was aware of the mdv 2010.1 kde 3.5.10 packages from Tim and
+tarakbumba but I didn't know about the TDE packages. They can certainly be
+very useful.
+
+&gt;<i> I do it for Fedora, and partially for openSUSE with the KDE:KDE3
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer.
+</I>&gt;<i> I was going to do some for Mandriva, but I've got a lot on my hands
+</I>&gt;<i> and not a lot of experience with Mandriva/Mageia macros and that
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff, so I can help, but someone else has to maintain the spec ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (PM me for more info on packaging Trinity, including write access to
+</I>&gt;<i> the trinity's SVN for packaging)
+</I>
+Where do you have the Fedora and openSUSE spec files?
+Those could be useful as reference.
+
+I will PM you eventually but first I have to have a close look at
+everything, SVN write access would be premature for now.
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+&gt;<i> But let me continue in a different way then. For each major step:
+</I>&gt;<i> * how could I get/gather/query those values? I guess for most of
+</I>&gt;<i> these, we'd need to setup a service to check and publish these, but to
+</I>&gt;<i> start easy, what would be already available?
+</I>&gt;<i> * what useful metrics are missing (and same question as above)?
+</I>&gt;<i> * what metrics are useless (and why)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For instance, using a HTTP GET to query, let me focus on these:
+</I>&gt;<i> * buildsystem: what values could I get already?
+</I>&gt;<i> * source packages: where could I get the number of packages, the size
+</I>&gt;<i> of the whole thing? orphan status will come out maintdb which is
+</I>&gt;<i> mostly ready; open bugs would come from Bugzilla or a proxy service;
+</I>&gt;<i> what about rpmlint reports?
+</I>&gt;<i> * compiled packages: where/how could I get repository size, number of
+</I>&gt;<i> packages? hdlist status? signatures status? dependencies?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would be a start, both to push some live data into this prototype
+</I>&gt;<i> (querying all values every two hours for instance, and keeping track
+</I>&gt;<i> of them) and to start thinking of setting up additional
+</I>&gt;<i> services/checks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+youri-check could give some of these values, it would be nice indeed to
+have general statistics on the front page and have it in the detailed
+report, WDYT ?
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Where do you have the Fedora and openSUSE spec files?
+</I>&gt;<i> Those could be useful as reference.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will PM you eventually but first I have to have a close look at
+</I>&gt;<i> everything, SVN write access would be premature for now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Right now, I'm slowly moving all of them to
+svn.trinitydesktop.org/svn/trinity-packaging.
+However, while you can reference them, I am building off of the latest
+SVN, and may have changes such as using cmake instead of autotools.
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Misc righly pointed out that:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * someone triggering a massive rebuild may not want to be seen as a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maintainer of packages uploaded by this; several possible solutions:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - first uploader is set as the maintainer by default;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - this will be manually editable from the maintdb app anyway;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - would a specific flag be raised in the buildsystem (or a package)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; when such a massive rebuild is triggered?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - instead of strict associations, we can associate maintainership
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; by frequency of uploads/activity on a given package (unless massive
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rebuilds are triggered more often by a single packager than &quot;regular&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; package uploads by the actual maintainer)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * submissions stats publishing may require your validation (and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; actually, for that specifically and future topics, we'll need to see
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; how we can publish contributors activity stats through our platform -
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as a de-facto feature or as a preference, per contributor).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think submissions stats can be interesting to keep, to see who is the
+</I>&gt;<i> most active on a package. But comaintainers should not be added
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically when package is submitted by someone. For instance you
+</I>&gt;<i> don't want to become comaintainer of a package because you fixed a typo
+</I>&gt;<i> in the description.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think becoming comaintainer should be something that you decide, not
+</I>&gt;<i> something done automatically.
+</I>
+i agree, maintainership should be done manually. but preferably with some kind
+of package search and checkboxes, to select multiple ones. (to minimize the
+work; i can't see jq finding package by package and selecting himself for it)
+
+sophie already keeps packager data, afaik.
+
+if the work with searching package and checkboxes is too much work at this
+time, perhaps we could enable &quot;that autosetting code&quot; for a short while so
+that most are set.
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 23 mars 2011 &#224; 20:16 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> i agree, maintainership should be done manually. but preferably with some kind
+</I>&gt;<i> of package search and checkboxes, to select multiple ones. (to minimize the
+</I>&gt;<i> work; i can't see jq finding package by package and selecting himself for it)
+</I>
+jq would likely use his super scripting ability for that,
+and we do have access to the db, so this can be easier to achieve for
+those without super power.
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+the roadmap )
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+&gt;<i> sophie already keeps packager data, afaik.
+</I>
+Technically, Sophie fetch them from external sources. The db is just for
+caching purpose.
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+&gt;<i> if the work with searching package and checkboxes is too much work at this
+</I>&gt;<i> time, perhaps we could enable &quot;that autosetting code&quot; for a short while so
+</I>&gt;<i> that most are set.
+</I>
+The process must be seamless. Ie, people should not think of it at
+all.
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+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 23 maart 2011 19:22:08 schreef nicolas vigier:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And I hate to double post, but I do know that the %configure_kde3
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; macro should point to /opt/kde3... :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So that means that all KDE applications will be twice on the repository,
+</I>&gt;<i> one for KDE4, and one for TDE ? I think that can be confusing for users.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Packaging and maintaining this is probably a huge task, and can maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> cause problems to KDE users if only done half, or incorrectly. I think
+</I>&gt;<i> it would be better to start with an external repository. And only import
+</I>&gt;<i> on the main repository once everything is working and we have someone
+</I>&gt;<i> who plans to maintain it.
+</I>
+I think this is the big point here. if there isn't anyone willing to maintain
+qt3, and someone willing to maintain TDE to the point that it doesn't conflict
+at any point with KDE4 and KDE4 apps.
+
+personally i think that by the time this is well enough tested to be put in to
+core/testing, that TDE will likely have &quot;enough&quot; qt4 support. So, if i was
+someone who used that, i would build it locally for myself and test it
+gradually that way, and not really bother with the whole submission, and
+maintaining of every app... (which is likely alot of work; unless noone uses
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+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 23 mars 2011 &#224; 20:16 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i agree, maintainership should be done manually. but preferably with some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kind of package search and checkboxes, to select multiple ones. (to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; minimize the work; i can't see jq finding package by package and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; selecting himself for it)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> jq would likely use his super scripting ability for that,
+</I>&gt;<i> and we do have access to the db, so this can be easier to achieve for
+</I>&gt;<i> those without super power.
+</I>
+granted, but then i only maintain 5 packages, so i have no problem with it
+anyway.
+
+&gt;<i> ( nota : xml rpc interface could be a good idea to add later if not on
+</I>&gt;<i> the roadmap )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sophie already keeps packager data, afaik.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Technically, Sophie fetch them from external sources. The db is just for
+</I>&gt;<i> caching purpose.
+</I>
+details details :-)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; if the work with searching package and checkboxes is too much work at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this time, perhaps we could enable &quot;that autosetting code&quot; for a short
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; while so that most are set.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The process must be seamless. Ie, people should not think of it at
+</I>&gt;<i> all.
+</I>
+i would use this only if time is too short and people who maintain a huge
+amount of package, who cannot script like jq or have no super powers want
+that.
+
+if you look at it that way, it seems like there aren't that many people who
+would need this feature.
+
+
+Personally, i want an app where i can log in, search a package, and grab /
+drop it (last packager could be shown if you have the info anyway...), and a
+link to the bugs of that package, and also a way to show my maintained
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+&gt;<i> Op woensdag 23 maart 2011 19:22:08 schreef nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; And I hate to double post, but I do know that the %configure_kde3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; macro should point to /opt/kde3... :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So that means that all KDE applications will be twice on the repository,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> one for KDE4, and one for TDE ? I think that can be confusing for users.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Packaging and maintaining this is probably a huge task, and can maybe
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cause problems to KDE users if only done half, or incorrectly. I think
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it would be better to start with an external repository. And only import
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on the main repository once everything is working and we have someone
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> who plans to maintain it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think this is the big point here. if there isn't anyone willing to maintain
+</I>&gt;<i> qt3, and someone willing to maintain TDE to the point that it doesn't conflict
+</I>&gt;<i> at any point with KDE4 and KDE4 apps.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> personally i think that by the time this is well enough tested to be put in to
+</I>&gt;<i> core/testing, that TDE will likely have &quot;enough&quot; qt4 support. So, if i was
+</I>&gt;<i> someone who used that, i would build it locally for myself and test it
+</I>&gt;<i> gradually that way, and not really bother with the whole submission, and
+</I>&gt;<i> maintaining of every app... (which is likely alot of work; unless noone uses
+</I>&gt;<i> it)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+As explained by some guys before, we do not want to have both KDE3 and
+4 in repository. This has been a big pain to make them live together
+for some months (even if it looks &quot;easy&quot;) and it has been a pain to
+clean repository.
+
+Now one solution is to propose a repository dedicated to it on your side.
+
+--
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+Quote: Anne nicolas wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 20:47
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As explained by some guys before, we do not want to have both KDE3 and
+</I>&gt;<i> 4 in repository. This has been a big pain to make them live together
+</I>&gt;<i> for some months (even if it looks &quot;easy&quot;) and it has been a pain to
+</I>&gt;<i> clean repository.
+</I>
+I know that KDE3/KDE4 coexistence was hard in the beginning in fact in Mdv
+2009.0 it was a disaster, but from 2009.1 onwards it has worked
+perfectly.
+I have run a few installs (2009.1 and 2010.0) with both KDE3 and KDE4 on
+the same box without any issues.
+
+The existing Mandriva packages from Tim and tarakbumba are a continuation
+of the official Mandriva KDE3 packages so they don't have any conflicts
+with KDE4 anymore.
+
+Any Mageia TrinityDE packages would be derived from the Mandriva packages
+so just like the Mandriva packages there is no reason that there should be
+any problems.
+
+TrinityDE is a live FOSS project and is now completely separate from KDE,
+so excluding it would be like saying we don't include Gnome since we
+already provide KDE.
+
+&gt;<i> Now one solution is to propose a repository dedicated to it on your
+</I>&gt;<i> side.
+</I>
+I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a
+repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I
+thought Mageia would finally make confusing and conflicting third party
+repos (like Mandriva has) obsolete.
+
+--
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+ <B>L B</B>
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+dropped account. A Manuel start of ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd in a terminal
+throws an error with a one time link to the dropbox-dist homepage.
+After I opened that link in a normal browser my pc was correctly linked to
+dropbox.
+The GUI still doesn't work,but the files are being synchronized by the
+daemon.
+Status reports only via terminal commands...
+
+lb
+Am 23.03.2011 10:12 schrieb &quot;L B&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luke.b3103 at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> thanks for the quick answer. i've forgotten to say that i'm using the
+</I>gnome
+&gt;<i> desktop.
+</I>&gt;<i> but i will try if the kfilebox works there as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> lb
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011/3/23 Andres Kaaber &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andres.kaaber at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Works fine here. I use it with kfilebox.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A. Kaaber
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+&gt;<i> Revision 75995 Author steletch Date 2011-03-23 20:21:52 +0100 (Wed, 23 Mar
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+</I>&gt;<i> created old log directory for drakwizard
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+&gt;<i> I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a
+</I>&gt;<i> repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I
+</I>&gt;<i> thought Mageia would finally make confusing and conflicting third party
+</I>&gt;<i> repos (like Mandriva has) obsolete.
+</I>If the problem is only for hosting i'm sure we can find a solution.
+But as i said before (like others), you should first try to build it locally,
+check it's working, intergrate nicely for menu,kdm then we'll start thinking
+about providing an alternative repository.
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+repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I
+thought Mageia would finally make confusing and conflicting third party
+repos (like Mandriva has) obsolete.
+
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+We can host repositories for you, if Mageia is unwilling to accept them -
+you could make a kde3 rpm that adds the necessary sources to use. Or, Mageia
+could make an official kde3 repository that is disabled by default but can
+be enabled on installer/rpmdrake. I'm not the expert at this, though :-/
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mar 23, 2011, at 16:24, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a
+</I>&gt;<i> repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I
+</I>&gt;<i> thought Mageia would finally make confusing and conflicting third party
+</I>&gt;<i> repos (like Mandriva has) obsolete.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can host repositories for you, if Mageia is unwilling to accept them -
+</I>&gt;<i> you could make a kde3 rpm that adds the necessary sources to use. Or, Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> could make an official kde3 repository that is disabled by default but can
+</I>&gt;<i> be enabled on installer/rpmdrake. I'm not the expert at this, though :-/
+</I>&gt;<i> that's mageia dev decisions.
+</I>
+no a special repo hosted by mageia is not a good idea, we will not
+start to do repo for all that way. This need to be external,
+independant repository.
+If you can host it this would be perfect.
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+
+&gt;&gt;<i> I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thought Mageia would finally make confusing and conflicting third party
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> repos (like Mandriva has) obsolete.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We can host repositories for you, if Mageia is unwilling to accept them -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you could make a kde3 rpm that adds the necessary sources to use. Or, Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> could make an official kde3 repository that is disabled by default but can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be enabled on installer/rpmdrake. I'm not the expert at this, though :-/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that's mageia dev decisions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> no a special repo hosted by mageia is not a good idea, we will not
+</I>&gt;<i> start to do repo for all that way. This need to be external,
+</I>&gt;<i> independant repository.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you can host it this would be perfect.
+</I>
+This would be a mess, like previously with Mandriva and its few
+third-party repositories with various quality level, where the distro
+packaging policy can't be enforced.
+This is bad for end-users.
+
+Why not include TrinityDE in Mageia repos?
+If not conflicting with KDE4, not having similar provides, and not even
+installed by default, it seems ok to include it in the distro.
+
+--
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+Quote: Balcaen John wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 22:05
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+&gt;<i> But as i said before (like others), you should first try to build it
+</I>&gt;<i> locally,
+</I>&gt;<i> check it's working, intergrate nicely for menu,kdm then we'll start
+</I>&gt;<i> thinking
+</I>&gt;<i> about providing an alternative repository.
+</I>
+It goes without saying that I would first build everything locally and test
+it, I always do that with every package I work on.
+
+But like I said, I think a separate/third party repo is a very bad idea,
+the whole point of Mageia was that (unlike with Mandriva) finally all
+contributors could join their efforts rather than having separate third
+party repos all over the place.
+
+If now this is no longer the case then I don't really see the point in
+participating in Mageia as packager.
+
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> thought Mageia would finally make confusing and conflicting third party
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> repos (like Mandriva has) obsolete.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We can host repositories for you, if Mageia is unwilling to accept them -
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you could make a kde3 rpm that adds the necessary sources to use. Or, Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> could make an official kde3 repository that is disabled by default but can
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be enabled on installer/rpmdrake. I'm not the expert at this, though :-/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that's mageia dev decisions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> no a special repo hosted by mageia is not a good idea, we will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> start to do repo for all that way. This need &#160;to be external,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> independant repository.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you can host it this would be perfect.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This would be a mess, like previously with Mandriva and its few
+</I>&gt;<i> third-party repositories with various quality level, where the distro
+</I>&gt;<i> packaging policy can't be enforced.
+</I>&gt;<i> This is bad for end-users.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not include TrinityDE in Mageia repos?
+</I>&gt;<i> If not conflicting with KDE4, not having similar provides, and not even
+</I>&gt;<i> installed by default, it seems ok to include it in the distro.
+</I>
+we will face too many pbs simple question:
+
+we provide k3b ( kde apps ) trinity provide k3b ( kde3 apps )
+
+files are similar ( or named the same ), how users will distinguish
+the version it wants? how to deal with conflicts ?
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+
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> thought Mageia would finally make confusing and conflicting third party
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> repos (like Mandriva has) obsolete.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We can host repositories for you, if Mageia is unwilling to accept them -
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you could make a kde3 rpm that adds the necessary sources to use. Or, Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> could make an official kde3 repository that is disabled by default but can
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be enabled on installer/rpmdrake. I'm not the expert at this, though :-/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that's mageia dev decisions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> no a special repo hosted by mageia is not a good idea, we will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> start to do repo for all that way. This need to be external,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> independant repository.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you can host it this would be perfect.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This would be a mess, like previously with Mandriva and its few
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> third-party repositories with various quality level, where the distro
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packaging policy can't be enforced.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is bad for end-users.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why not include TrinityDE in Mageia repos?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If not conflicting with KDE4, not having similar provides, and not even
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed by default, it seems ok to include it in the distro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we will face too many pbs simple question:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we provide k3b ( kde apps ) trinity provide k3b ( kde3 apps )
+</I>
+Uh, no, k3b-trinity or k3b-kde3
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> files are similar ( or named the same ), how users will distinguish
+</I>
+No.. That's the purpose of /opt/kde3
+
+&gt;<i> the version it wants? how to deal with conflicts ?
+</I>
+What conflicts? We're installing in a seperate prefix. Also, the RPM
+requires, provides, conflicts, etc have long been fixed, no?
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>Robert Xu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">robxu9 at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
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+&gt;&gt;<i> we provide k3b ( kde apps ) trinity provide k3b ( kde3 apps )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Uh, no, k3b-trinity or k3b-kde3
+</I>
+Or use a prefix, which should makes easier to spot trinity packages,
+like trinity-k3b
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> files are similar ( or named the same ), how users will distinguish
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No.. That's the purpose of /opt/kde3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the version it wants? how to deal with conflicts ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What conflicts? We're installing in a seperate prefix. Also, the RPM
+</I>&gt;<i> requires, provides, conflicts, etc have long been fixed, no?
+</I>
+Agreed
+
+--
+Olivier Blin - blino
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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+<PRE>I updated cauldron this morning, and later rebooted my desktop. My
+r8169 on eth0 is suddenly having problems, maybe due to the new kernel.
+The chipset is an r8169 variant:
+
+Mar 23 15:58:23 localhost kernel: r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver
+2.3LK-NAPI loaded
+Mar 23 15:58:23 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A -&gt; GSI
+19 (level, low) -&gt; IRQ 19
+Mar 23 15:58:23 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: setting latency
+timer to 64
+Mar 23 15:58:23 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: irq 41 for MSI/MSI-X
+Mar 23 15:58:23 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth0:
+RTL8168d/8111d at 0xffffc900117fc000, 00:30:67:2f:0a:fc, XID 083000c0 IRQ 41
+
+but it's been known for a year or more that this variant needs firmware,
+and it's already installed:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ftgme2</A> rtl_nic]# pwd
+/lib/firmware/rtl_nic
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ftgme2</A> rtl_nic]# ls
+rtl8168d-1.fw rtl8168d-2.fw
+
+and this chip has been working under mageia from the beginning. Now I get:
+
+Mar 23 14:14:27 localhost draknetcenter[4777]: running: /sbin/ifup eth0
+daemon
+Mar 23 14:14:27 localhost ifplugd(eth0)[5027]: ifplugd 0.28 initializing.
+Mar 23 14:14:27 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth0: unable to
+apply firmware patch
+Mar 23 14:14:27 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth0: link down
+Mar 23 14:14:27 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth0: link down
+Mar 23 14:14:27 localhost ifplugd(eth0)[5027]: Using interface
+eth0/00:30:67:2F:0A:FC with driver &lt;r8169&gt; (version: 2.3LK-NAPI)
+Mar 23 14:14:27 localhost kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not
+ready
+Mar 23 14:14:27 localhost ifplugd(eth0)[5027]: Using detection mode:
+SIOCETHTOOL
+Mar 23 14:14:27 localhost ifplugd(eth0)[5027]: Initialization complete,
+link beat not detected.
+
+What changed ? Previously, I would get:
+
+Mar 19 14:09:47 localhost kernel: r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver
+2.3LK-NAPI loaded
+Mar 19 14:09:47 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A -&gt; GSI
+19 (level, low) -&gt; IRQ 19
+Mar 19 14:09:47 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: setting latency
+timer to 64
+Mar 19 14:09:47 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: irq 40 for MSI/MSI-X
+Mar 19 14:09:47 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth0:
+RTL8168d/8111d at 0xffffc9001179c000, 00:30:67:2f:0a:fc, XID 083000c0 IRQ 40
+
+Mar 19 14:09:48 localhost ifplugd(eth0)[1770]: ifplugd 0.28 initializing.
+Mar 19 14:09:48 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth0: link up
+Mar 19 14:09:48 localhost kernel: r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth0: link up
+Mar 19 14:09:48 localhost ifplugd(eth0)[1770]: Using interface
+eth0/00:30:67:2F:0A:FC with driver &lt;r8169&gt; (version: 2.3LK-NAPI)
+Mar 19 14:09:48 localhost ifplugd(eth0)[1770]: Using detection mode:
+SIOCETHTOOL
+Mar 19 14:09:48 localhost ifplugd(eth0)[1770]: Initialization complete,
+link beat detected.
+Mar 19 14:09:48 localhost ifplugd(eth0)[1770]: Executing
+'/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action eth0 up'.
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+&gt;<i> On Mar 23, 2011, at 17:28, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>
+&gt;<i> &gt; we will face too many pbs simple question:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; we provide k3b ( kde apps ) trinity provide k3b ( kde3 apps )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Uh, no, k3b-trinity or k3b-kde3
+</I>
+And for configuration path, various paths in /usr/ etc ?
+Library name too.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; files are similar ( or named the same ), how users will distinguish
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No.. That's the purpose of /opt/kde3
+</I>
+/opt is in no way clean packaging. This is a violation of fhs
+( <A HREF="http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#OPTADDONAPPLICATIONSOFTWAREPACKAGES">http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#OPTADDONAPPLICATIONSOFTWAREPACKAGES</A> ), and a rpmlint error ( dir-or-file-in-opt ).
+
+A rpm should place stuff in /usr, unless there is a good reason.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; the version it wants? how to deal with conflicts ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What conflicts? We're installing in a seperate prefix. Also, the RPM
+</I>&gt;<i> requires, provides, conflicts, etc have long been fixed, no?
+</I>
+The whole conflicts/provides/requires were likely cleaned from our rpms,
+and if they are not, they should be since a regular desktop
+environnement should not need such provisions.
+We do not had conflict between gnome and kde, or lxde and xfce, so I see
+no reason to add them for kde and tde.
+
+They were the cause of major headaches in the past, so if a package is
+added, it must be clean before being uploaded.
+
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 23 March 2011 18:29:09, Tux99 wrote:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> It goes without saying that I would first build everything locally and test
+</I>&gt;<i> it, I always do that with every package I work on.
+</I>Nice to hear ;o)
+
+&gt;<i> But like I said, I think a separate/third party repo is a very bad idea,
+</I>&gt;<i> the whole point of Mageia was that (unlike with Mandriva) finally all
+</I>&gt;<i> contributors could join their efforts rather than having separate third
+</I>&gt;<i> party repos all over the place.
+</I>The idea of an alternative repository was to test it correctly without messing
+with KDE4.
+Also the second question is who is going to maintain Qt3 ?
+Is there a fork maintain by TDE maintainer ? (i'm not sure it's still
+maintained by Nokia :/ )
+&gt;<i> If now this is no longer the case then I don't really see the point in
+</I>&gt;<i> participating in Mageia as packager.
+</I>Hum ?
+The only reason to get a mageia was only to import TDE &amp; not because we're a
+funny team ?
+
+--
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+<PRE>On 23 March 2011 09:49, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I noticed there is no qt-devel rpm in mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I looked into this further and noticed the following comment in the
+</I>&gt;<i> changelog of qt3:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Revision 45543 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified Mon Jan 31 23:32:27 2011 UTC (7 weeks, 1 day ago) by stewb
+</I>&gt;<i> Original Path: cauldron/qt3/current/SPECS/qt3.spec
+</I>&gt;<i> File length: 12804 byte(s)
+</I>&gt;<i> Diff to previous 45436
+</I>&gt;<i> qt3 is blacklisted, build a stripped down version with no -devel (for LSB)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/qt3/releases/3.3.8b/24.mga1/SPEC">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/qt3/releases/3.3.8b/24.mga1/SPEC</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> S/qt3.spec?view=log
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can we please reenable the qt3-devel package as it's required to build the
+</I>&gt;<i> TrinityDE (www.trinitydesktop.org)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trinitydesktop is being ported to QT4 but current versions still rely on
+</I>&gt;<i> QT3 so dropping qt3-devel is premature.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+We shouldn't under any circumstances add kde3 in the repos, fork or not.
+
+Users see a package in the repos and they expect it to be maintained,
+this will not be the case, we can't support KDE4 and KDE3 at the same
+time. Past experience tells us this is a major hassle/pain, and we
+shouldn't have to go back to that murky situation.
+
+Also there shouldn't be any qt3 dependant packages in the repos; the
+only and sole reason qt3 is in the Mageia repos is that stewbintn said
+he needs it for some LSB stuff, but nothing is built with qt3-devel as
+BR AFAIK and nothing should be.
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+The test instance located at <A HREF="http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia">http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia</A> is now regularly
+updated and so can be used to browse available RPMs for mageia, and also see
+in the &quot;updates&quot; page the latest updates.
+
+Reminder : by default, a filter is set to show only applications. If you want
+to see all packages, check both &quot;yes&quot; and &quot;no&quot; in the applications filter (this
+filter will be improved to become a select input with the following options :
+&quot;show only applications&quot;, &quot;show all packages&quot;, &quot;show only technical
+packages&quot;).
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+ <B>Olivier Blin</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20qt3-devel%20needed%20for%20Trinitydesktop%20%28KDE%203.5%0A%09successor%29&In-Reply-To=%3Cm3hbate9mc.fsf%40blino.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)">mageia at blino.org
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+ <I>Wed Mar 23 23:48:43 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+
+&gt;<i> We shouldn't under any circumstances add kde3 in the repos, fork or not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Users see a package in the repos and they expect it to be maintained,
+</I>&gt;<i> this will not be the case, we can't support KDE4 and KDE3 at the same
+</I>&gt;<i> time. Past experience tells us this is a major hassle/pain, and we
+</I>&gt;<i> shouldn't have to go back to that murky situation.
+</I>
+That's not KDE3, it's a fork with new maintainers.
+
+&gt;<i> Also there shouldn't be any qt3 dependant packages in the repos; the
+</I>&gt;<i> only and sole reason qt3 is in the Mageia repos is that stewbintn said
+</I>&gt;<i> he needs it for some LSB stuff, but nothing is built with qt3-devel as
+</I>&gt;<i> BR AFAIK and nothing should be.
+</I>
+It should be ok to add back qt3-devel temporarily, and remove it again
+once Trinity gets ported to Qt4.
+
+--
+Olivier Blin - blino
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20qt3-devel%20needed%20for%20Trinitydesktop%20%28KDE%203.5%0A%09successor%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DT-fOphVoavrUa0FzGv7XYawL1jjgWbnaBHqy7%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com
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+ <I>Wed Mar 23 23:58:50 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 24 March 2011 00:48, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We shouldn't under any circumstances add kde3 in the repos, fork or not.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Users see a package in the repos and they expect it to be maintained,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this will not be the case, we can't support KDE4 and KDE3 at the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time. Past experience tells us this is a major hassle/pain, and we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shouldn't have to go back to that murky situation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's not KDE3, it's a fork with new maintainers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The point still stands, will Trinity be another DE? or will we have to
+add conflicts in Trinity &lt;-&gt; KDE4 specs?
+
+If the latter, then I don't fancy adding the conflicts in each of the
+various kde4 specs (having just removed them a few months ago, and
+that took quite a lot of work), just to have another DE.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Also there shouldn't be any qt3 dependant packages in the repos; the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> only and sole reason qt3 is in the Mageia repos is that stewbintn said
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> he needs it for some LSB stuff, but nothing is built with qt3-devel as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BR AFAIK and nothing should be.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should be ok to add back qt3-devel temporarily, and remove it again
+</I>&gt;<i> once Trinity gets ported to Qt4.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Blin - blino
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<LI><A HREF="003505.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3505">&nbsp;</A>
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+<LI><A HREF="003507.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>L B
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+<LI><A HREF="003538.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>L B
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+
+<LI><A HREF="003513.html">[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question
+</A><A NAME="3513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003543.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003547.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003553.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003530.html">[Mageia-dev] building a dashboard for the whole build chain
+</A><A NAME="3530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003511.html">[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question
+</A><A NAME="3511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003514.html">[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question
+</A><A NAME="3514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003548.html">[Mageia-dev] Sudden problems with r8169 NICs ?
+</A><A NAME="3548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003518.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003508.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003509.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003540.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003550.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003506.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andres Kaaber
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003525.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003539.html">[Mageia-dev] [75995] created old log directory for drakwizard
+</A><A NAME="3539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003542.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003545.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003551.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003554.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003533.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003549.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003504.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003510.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003512.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003516.html">[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="3516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003521.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003529.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003537.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003544.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003532.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003534.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE =?iso-8859-1?q?3=2E5=09successor?=)
+</A><A NAME="3534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003535.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003552.html">[Mageia-dev] A regularly synchronized instance of mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003520.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003524.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003526.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003527.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003531.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003541.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003546.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003519.html">[Mageia-dev] building a dashboard for the whole build chain
+</A><A NAME="3519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003522.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003515.html">[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="3515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003517.html">[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="3517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003536.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003523.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003528.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
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+ <h1>23 March 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Mar 23 08:49:21 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Mar 23 23:58:50 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 51<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003504.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003505.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>L B
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003506.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andres Kaaber
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003507.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>L B
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003508.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003509.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003510.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003511.html">[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question
+</A><A NAME="3511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003512.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003513.html">[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question
+</A><A NAME="3513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003514.html">[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question
+</A><A NAME="3514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003515.html">[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="3515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003516.html">[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="3516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003517.html">[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="3517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003518.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003519.html">[Mageia-dev] building a dashboard for the whole build chain
+</A><A NAME="3519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003520.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003521.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003522.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003523.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003524.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003525.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003526.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003527.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003528.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003529.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003530.html">[Mageia-dev] building a dashboard for the whole build chain
+</A><A NAME="3530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003531.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003532.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003533.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003534.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE =?iso-8859-1?q?3=2E5=09successor?=)
+</A><A NAME="3534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003535.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003536.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003537.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003538.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>L B
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003539.html">[Mageia-dev] [75995] created old log directory for drakwizard
+</A><A NAME="3539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003540.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003541.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003542.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003543.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003545.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003544.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003546.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003547.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003548.html">[Mageia-dev] Sudden problems with r8169 NICs ?
+</A><A NAME="3548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003549.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003550.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003551.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003552.html">[Mageia-dev] A regularly synchronized instance of mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003553.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003554.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Mar 23 23:58:50 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Mar 23 23:58:55 CET 2011</i>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>23 March 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Mar 23 08:49:21 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Mar 23 23:58:50 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 51<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003539.html">[Mageia-dev] [75995] created old log directory for drakwizard
+</A><A NAME="3539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003552.html">[Mageia-dev] A regularly synchronized instance of mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003519.html">[Mageia-dev] building a dashboard for the whole build chain
+</A><A NAME="3519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003530.html">[Mageia-dev] building a dashboard for the whole build chain
+</A><A NAME="3530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003522.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003523.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003532.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003533.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003535.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003505.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>L B
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003506.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andres Kaaber
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003507.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>L B
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003538.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>L B
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003515.html">[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="3515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003516.html">[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="3516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003517.html">[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="3517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003528.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003508.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003509.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003510.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003512.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003520.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003521.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003524.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003525.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003526.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003527.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003529.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003531.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003536.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003537.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003540.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003541.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003542.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003543.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003545.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003544.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003546.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003547.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003550.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003551.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003553.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003554.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003504.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003518.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003549.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003534.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE =?iso-8859-1?q?3=2E5=09successor?=)
+</A><A NAME="3534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003548.html">[Mageia-dev] Sudden problems with r8169 NICs ?
+</A><A NAME="3548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003511.html">[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question
+</A><A NAME="3511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003513.html">[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question
+</A><A NAME="3513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003514.html">[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question
+</A><A NAME="3514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Mar 23 23:58:50 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Mar 23 23:58:55 CET 2011</i>
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+ <h1>23 March 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Mar 23 08:49:21 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Mar 23 23:58:50 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 51<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01300866561- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003504.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01300866561-01300876632- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003508.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01300866561-01300876632-01300877090- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003509.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003510.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003512.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003518.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003520.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003521.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300901529- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003524.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003525.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902524- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003526.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003527.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003528.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300906239- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003529.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300906239-01300907582- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003531.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003534.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE =?iso-8859-1?q?3=2E5=09successor?=)
+</A><A NAME="3534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981-01300909629- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003536.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981-01300909629-01300911925- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003537.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981-01300909629-01300911925-01300914309- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003540.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981-01300909629-01300911925-01300914309-01300915749- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003544.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981-01300909629-01300911925-01300914309-01300915749-01300918547- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003550.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981-01300909629-01300911925-01300914563- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003541.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981-01300909629-01300911925-01300914563-01300914756- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003542.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981-01300909629-01300911925-01300914563-01300914756-01300915164- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003543.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981-01300909629-01300911925-01300914563-01300914756-01300915164-01300915702- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003545.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981-01300909629-01300911925-01300914563-01300914756-01300915164-01300915702-01300915825- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003546.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981-01300909629-01300911925-01300914563-01300914756-01300915164-01300915702-01300915825-01300916292- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003547.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300866561-01300876632-01300882723-01300883705-01300888916-01300892969-01300896491-01300902416-01300902563-01300904528-01300908981-01300909629-01300911925-01300914563-01300914756-01300915164-01300915702-01300915825-01300918338- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003549.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01300866561-01300918724- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003551.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01300866561-01300918724-01300920523- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003553.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01300866561-01300918724-01300920523-01300921130- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003554.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)
+</A><A NAME="3554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01300870028- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003505.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>L B
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01300870028-01300871091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003506.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andres Kaaber
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01300870028-01300871091-01300871565- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003507.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>L B
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01300870028-01300871091-01300871565-01300912160- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003538.html">[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue
+</A><A NAME="3538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>L B
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01300883180- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003511.html">[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question
+</A><A NAME="3511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01300883180-01300884340- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003513.html">[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question
+</A><A NAME="3513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01300883180-01300884340-01300886354- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003514.html">[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question
+</A><A NAME="3514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01300887965- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003515.html">[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="3515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01300887965-01300888368- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003516.html">[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="3516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01300887965-01300888368-01300888651- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003517.html">[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="3517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01300891965- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003519.html">[Mageia-dev] building a dashboard for the whole build chain
+</A><A NAME="3519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01300891965-01300906800- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003530.html">[Mageia-dev] building a dashboard for the whole build chain
+</A><A NAME="3530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01300898365- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003522.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01300898365-01300899640- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003523.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01300898365-01300899640-01300907781- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003532.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01300898365-01300899640-01300907781-01300908762- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003533.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300898365-01300899640-01300907781-01300908762-01300909537- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003535.html">[Mageia-dev] buildsystem =&gt; maintainers db link test
+</A><A NAME="3535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01300912471- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003539.html">[Mageia-dev] [75995] created old log directory for drakwizard
+</A><A NAME="3539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01300916320- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003548.html">[Mageia-dev] Sudden problems with r8169 NICs ?
+</A><A NAME="3548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01300919115- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003552.html">[Mageia-dev] A regularly synchronized instance of mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Mar 23 23:58:50 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Mar 23 23:58:55 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
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