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+ <B>Benoit Audouard</B>
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+<PRE>Re,
+
+2011/2/26 Remy CLOUARD &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shikamaru at mandriva.org</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Hi, you may have or may not have seen it, we plan to do a test day today
+</I>&gt;<i> for mageia alpha 1 iso.
+</I>&gt;<i> The plan is to test both install and upgrade from mandriva 2010.1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think we've achieved some results :
+- IRC is effective for support (we already knew it), thanks to people
+joining in #mageia-dev and #mageia-qa :-)
+- after packager meeting, blog and ML have been used to let know a test-day
+was happening, well on short notice indeed :-) next test-day will have to
+be announced sooner
+- documentation currently available for testing can be used afterwards
+- IRC chan made some support, though feedback was not formalized :/ (bugs
+opened ? mails ?)
+- so, the experience may be worth to do again a bit before alpha2 is
+published, so that blockers are identified (non-working situation or
+critical bug that may have been overlooked). We may review this at next
+packager meeting ?
+
+What worked:
+- some people came, even for an alpha1
+- documentation / check-list is available from
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=qa_test-day">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=qa_test-day</A>
+- support is effective when questions are asked
+
+What can be enhanced:
+- we may announce sooner, so that people have time to prepare (download iso,
+suggest additions to test-plan)
+- matrix results? this would show what works, what has been tested and
+identify new tests
+- identify availabilities along the day (for example, I was only there from
+0h42 UTC till 2:00 then 12:00 - 18:00 UTC)
+- do not be shy: just ask on irc #mageia-dev or #mageia-qa, you'll get an
+answer even if you do not see much activity :)
+- even though there's a dedicated test-day, testing is part of the dev
+process, do not hesitate to ask on IRC or ML when something unexpectedly
+works or (perhaps) does not :-) IMHO, there are many people there for help,
+just ask, you may get an answer ;-)
+
+AFAIC, I began testing upgrading from 2010.2 to cauldron in VirtualBox, see
+<A HREF="http://mageiacauldron.tuxfamily.org/TestingMageia1Upgrade20102">http://mageiacauldron.tuxfamily.org/TestingMageia1Upgrade20102</A>
+It worked well, better than I expected as it only took 3 hours to upgrade
+instead of the usual 4h. Some mdv packages remain as expected, above
+expectation is that libreoffice is operational (and replaces completely
+openoffice.org), as you may see I've got some bugs to be opened after
+checking if they are not already there :) (see the wiki page for detail).
+BTW, maybe hwreport can be packaged immediately as a simple rebuild worked
+for me (I can maintain the package if needed), see
+<A HREF="http://hardware4linux.info/distrib/44407/">http://hardware4linux.info/distrib/44407/</A> (though next step will be hardware
+testing, instead of a virtualbox installation). I'll test with smolt in the
+following days ;-)
+
+Thanks damsweb, tmb and ali3n, ahmad78 - and all others I may have forgetten
+- for quick answers :) and thanks to all that got involved in this test day
+(let us know what you achieved, could not do, even if you were at
+swimming-pool on this specific day :p). Rendez-vous for preparing alpha2,
+see <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_1_specifications">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_1_specifications</A> for a tentative
+planning, if all^Was many of you get involved, we're planning for the best
+:<i>)
+</I>
+Looking for next test-day ;-) (and do not hesitate for day to day questions
+on irc relating to triage, documentation...).
+@++
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+<PRE>On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 01:39:32PM +0100, Anne nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> Apart from all possible issues, diskdrake needs first to be improved.
+</I>&gt;<i> Looking on partitions when you run LVM still needs to have knowledge
+</I>&gt;<i> about how it works. And I really don't think people can easily
+</I>&gt;<i> understand PV, VG, LV and FS
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>
+I would like to wave in this direction.
+
+Enabling lvm by default would be a bit premature at the moment, but one
+thing we could add is the ability to choose this layout, like what
+debian does. You can choose to have lvm, but are not forced to.
+At the moment we provide 3 layouts:
+- simple
+- simple with /usr
+- server
+
+We could have other ones like:
+- /boot + lvm -&gt; will hold /, swap, /home with extra space saved
+- /boot + lvm + encrypt
+
+At the moment there is one major blocker for lvm, if one check the
+encrypt checkbox, one gets screwed, see
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188</A>
+
+I&#8217;ve been using lvm here for quite a long time on mandriva, it works
+great but I still have to do manual things to get things right.
+
+Here are a few issues I encountered:
+- grub entry might be wrong you could end up with root=/dev in the
+ kernel line instead of /dev/vg/lv, bug not opened yet because I
+ haven&#8217;t been able to trigger the condition to encounter it.
+- initrd might be wrong if crypttab is empty (should open a bug for
+ this)
+- lvm might not be correctly detected and not included in initrd: I had
+ to export VG_LIST=&quot;vg&quot; to get it work as expected
+
+And we have to test it thoroughly first !
+
+Regards,
+--
+R&#233;my CLOUARD
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