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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002177.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002177.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..207bed3c4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002177.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3228CC.8030802%40iki.fi%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002178.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Anssi Hannula</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3228CC.8030802%40iki.fi%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">anssi.hannula at iki.fi + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 16 00:07:56 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002178.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2177">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2177">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2177">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2177">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi all! + +Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? + +Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +"%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. + +I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +those provided by any 3rd party packagers. + +Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +but not before. + +However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not +have these macros at all. + +What do other people think? + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002178.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2177">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2177">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2177">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2177">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002178.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002178.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c4a6192ea --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002178.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101160119.29528.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002177.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002179.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101160119.29528.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 16 01:19:29 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002177.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002179.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2178">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2178">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2178">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2178">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 00:07:56, Anssi Hannula a écrit : +><i> Hi all! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +</I>><i> 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +</I>><i> "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +</I>><i> most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +</I>><i> those provided by any 3rd party packagers. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +</I>><i> little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>><i> but not before. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not +</I>><i> have these macros at all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do other people think? +</I> +If not having those macros means we can't compile mdv SRPMS on mageia, then +I'd prefer we keep it. + +Regards + +Samuel Verschelde +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002177.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002179.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2178">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2178">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2178">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2178">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002179.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002179.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ee30721fa --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002179.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101160915.27646.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002178.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002180.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101160915.27646.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 16 09:15:27 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002178.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002180.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2179">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2179">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2179">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2179">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zondag 16 januari 2011 01:19:29 schreef Samuel Verschelde: +><i> Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 00:07:56, Anssi Hannula a écrit : +</I>><i> > Hi all! +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +</I>><i> > 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +</I>><i> > "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +</I>><i> > most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +</I>><i> > those provided by any 3rd party packagers. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +</I>><i> > little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>><i> > but not before. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not +</I>><i> > have these macros at all. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > What do other people think? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If not having those macros means we can't compile mdv SRPMS on mageia, then +</I>><i> I'd prefer we keep it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +i would prefer to have some kind of %{_vendor}%{_vendor_release} type of +thing, we could easily have mandriva and mageia use the same tags for this. + +after all, there will be a time where we will need similar compatibility. and +it's be easier for later to possibly have similar .spec files with other +vendors: PLF? OpenSuse, Fedora, ... +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002178.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002180.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2179">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2179">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2179">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2179">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002180.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002180.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cef441ef6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002180.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinwKcGzeRChOeSgtEP0yb2A4jggeKHH5MZuRAyb%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002179.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002181.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Dexter Morgan</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinwKcGzeRChOeSgtEP0yb2A4jggeKHH5MZuRAyb%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">dmorganec at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 16 10:37:09 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002179.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002181.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2180">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2180">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2180">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2180">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Anssi Hannula <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>> wrote: +><i> Hi all! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +</I>><i> 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +</I>><i> "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +</I>><i> most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +</I>><i> those provided by any 3rd party packagers. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +</I>><i> little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>><i> but not before. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not +</I>><i> have these macros at all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do other people think? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Anssi Hannula +</I>><i> +</I> +hi, + +i agree with this but if we add one i would be in favor or adding +later ( after the import, clean ) that allow us to remove unneded part +of the specs like the lib part. And why not add this macro but after . +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002179.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002181.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2180">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2180">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2180">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2180">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002181.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002181.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b30a4cf8b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002181.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101161126.55136.anaselli%40linux.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002180.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002182.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Angelo Naselli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101161126.55136.anaselli%40linux.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">anaselli at linux.it + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 16 11:26:54 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002180.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002182.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2181">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2181">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2181">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2181">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>In data domenica 16 gennaio 2011 00:07:56, Anssi Hannula ha scritto: +><i> Hi all! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +</I>><i> 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +</I>><i> "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +</I>><i> most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +</I>><i> those provided by any 3rd party packagers. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +</I>><i> little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>><i> but not before. +</I>I believe you're right at the moment, now that we're importing things, +but after the very first time, starts becoming nonsense since +i believe we're going to work on our packages distro per distro not taking +every time srpms from mandriva as we're doing now. + +><i> However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not +</I>><i> have these macros at all. +</I>the good should be to have some common macros the allows us to build +packages form one distro to other. I ported in my rhel 4 and 5 mkrel to get +most compatibility to mandriva specs. But now fedora (hope rhel 6 as well) +uses %dist so why not to use a common point to that macro and extend +compatibility? +><i> What do other people think? +</I>I think we should think to a transition solution at least... + +-- + Angelo +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 198 bytes +Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20110116/c60fb526/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002180.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002182.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2181">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2181">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2181">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2181">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002182.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002182.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..23864334c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002182.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101161232.24635.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002181.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002183.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101161232.24635.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 16 12:32:24 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002181.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002183.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2182">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2182">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2182">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2182">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 11:26:54, Angelo Naselli a écrit : +><i> In data domenica 16 gennaio 2011 00:07:56, Anssi Hannula ha scritto: +</I>><i> > Hi all! +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +</I>><i> > 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +</I>><i> > "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +</I>><i> > most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +</I>><i> > those provided by any 3rd party packagers. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +</I>><i> > little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>><i> > but not before. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I believe you're right at the moment, now that we're importing things, +</I>><i> but after the very first time, starts becoming nonsense since +</I>><i> i believe we're going to work on our packages distro per distro not taking +</I>><i> every time srpms from mandriva as we're doing now. +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, it may be a naïve hope, but I thought I could maintain the same spec file +for Mandriva and Mageia for my packages. It's not just a matter of importing +SRPMS from Mandriva to Mageia. + +><i> > However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not +</I>><i> > have these macros at all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> the good should be to have some common macros the allows us to build +</I>><i> packages form one distro to other. I ported in my rhel 4 and 5 mkrel to get +</I>><i> most compatibility to mandriva specs. But now fedora (hope rhel 6 as well) +</I>><i> uses %dist so why not to use a common point to that macro and extend +</I>><i> compatibility? +</I>><i> +</I> +OK with that. + +Samuel +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002181.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002183.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2182">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2182">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2182">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2182">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002183.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002183.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3b4a5db25 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002183.html @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101161410.10526.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002182.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002184.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101161410.10526.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 16 14:10:10 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002182.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002184.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2183">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2183">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2183">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2183">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zondag 16 januari 2011 12:32:24 schreef Samuel Verschelde: +><i> Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 11:26:54, Angelo Naselli a écrit : +</I>><i> > In data domenica 16 gennaio 2011 00:07:56, Anssi Hannula ha scritto: +</I>><i> > > Hi all! +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +</I>><i> > > 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +</I>><i> > > "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +</I>><i> > > most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +</I>><i> > > those provided by any 3rd party packagers. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +</I>><i> > > little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>><i> > > but not before. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I believe you're right at the moment, now that we're importing things, +</I>><i> > but after the very first time, starts becoming nonsense since +</I>><i> > i believe we're going to work on our packages distro per distro not +</I>><i> > taking every time srpms from mandriva as we're doing now. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, it may be a naïve hope, but I thought I could maintain the same spec +</I>><i> file for Mandriva and Mageia for my packages. It's not just a matter of +</I>><i> importing SRPMS from Mandriva to Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > > However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should +</I>><i> > > not have these macros at all. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > the good should be to have some common macros the allows us to build +</I>><i> > packages form one distro to other. I ported in my rhel 4 and 5 mkrel to +</I>><i> > get most compatibility to mandriva specs. But now fedora (hope rhel 6 as +</I>><i> > well) uses %dist so why not to use a common point to that macro and +</I>><i> > extend compatibility? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OK with that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel +</I> +i'm ok with that as well +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002182.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002184.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2183">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2183">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2183">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2183">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002184.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002184.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..43bb7d4b8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002184.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Python%20Packaging%20Policy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin4L9NLY-cwsXTiMwv1-0%3DTo6HHUPvc4CbEBUcx%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002183.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002185.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy</H1> + <B>philippe makowski</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Python%20Packaging%20Policy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin4L9NLY-cwsXTiMwv1-0%3DTo6HHUPvc4CbEBUcx%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy">makowski.mageia at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 16 18:15:52 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002183.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? 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I like that idea. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> regarding defines, i don't understand completely, but i am in favor of having +</I>><i> all defines up top. +</I>Well, I think mikala’s got a point there. Experience showed that having +defines put where they are relevant simply improved readability. +OTOH, the spec does not say anything apart “it should be on top”. +I think we should not enforce define on top if we have no valid reason +to have it like this. + +Also, a way to improve readability regarding subpackages is to +systematically add a line of comment between them like this : + +#----------------------------------------------------------------------- + +I’ll add a section about subpackages, because they’re not mentionned in +the current policy. + +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20110116/0666d495/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002184.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002186.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2185">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2185">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2185">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2185">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002186.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002186.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9930328e7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002186.html @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20mageia%20sound%20tasks&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3332CD.5010304%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002185.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002187.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks</H1> + <B>Colin Guthrie</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20mageia%20sound%20tasks&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3332CD.5010304%40colin.guthr.ie%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks">mageia at colin.guthr.ie + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 16 19:02:53 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002185.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002187.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2186">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2186">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2186">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2186">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +'Twas brillig, and Sascha Schneider at 21/12/10 21:06 did gyre and gimble: +><i> Wiki updated <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=soundstudio">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=soundstudio</A> +</I> +Sorry I've been a little quiet of late. Email backlog + work commitments ++ $EXCUSE. + +I've added a comment to the wiki page about the suggestion of editing +/etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio. This file is more or less outdated now. I +should probably tidy things up and remove it. + +Nowadays we use "Sound Profiles" which should be an ideal scenario to +allow you to package up various tweaks and tricks with symlinks and get +them activated automatically when the user switches to a different sound +profile. + +The sound profiles are based on the alternatives system. + +See: update-alternatives --display soundprofile + +Ultimately you can read the current profile.conf here: + +CONFIG=/etc/sound/profiles/current/profile.conf + + +But to create a new profile, just the pulseaudio package. It's basically +just a matter of creating a folder /etc/sound/profiles/myprofile + +When you register it with the alternatives system you give it a +priority. I would suggest that if the package containing the soundstudio +profile is not installed by default then it can have a higher priority +than the pulseaudio one, and thus automatically activate when installed. + +Things like udev rules and such like could be installed by the package +but only activated when the profile is actually active (e.g. via +symlinks) - you may want to put dummy udev rules in place for the other +profiles too to make the symlinks always resolve. + +Also disabling libcanberra (by exporting CANBERRA_DRIVER=null) would +also be sensible - event sounds and such like are obviously highly +pointless/evil when doing pro-audio work! Currently the driver is +changed via this mechanism for a pure alsa profile (CANBERRA_DRIVER=alsa). + +HTHs + +Col + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002185.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002187.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2186">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2186">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2186">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2186">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002187.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002187.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..afda4c49c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/002187.html @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20mageia%20sound%20tasks&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dm6PLk3q4QSASN96OfM%3DgWZv7WqOBSKENfWULU%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002186.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks</H1> + <B>Sascha Schneider</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20mageia%20sound%20tasks&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dm6PLk3q4QSASN96OfM%3DgWZv7WqOBSKENfWULU%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks">ungleichklang at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 16 19:48:33 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002186.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2187">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2187">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2187">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2187">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>The idea with the sound-profile really sounds good, didn't knew about that. + +Regards, sascha + +2011/1/16 Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>>: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Sascha Schneider at 21/12/10 21:06 did gyre and gimble: +</I>>><i> Wiki updated <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=soundstudio">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=soundstudio</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sorry I've been a little quiet of late. Email backlog + work commitments +</I>><i> + $EXCUSE. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've added a comment to the wiki page about the suggestion of editing +</I>><i> /etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio. This file is more or less outdated now. I +</I>><i> should probably tidy things up and remove it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Nowadays we use "Sound Profiles" which should be an ideal scenario to +</I>><i> allow you to package up various tweaks and tricks with symlinks and get +</I>><i> them activated automatically when the user switches to a different sound +</I>><i> profile. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The sound profiles are based on the alternatives system. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> See: update-alternatives --display soundprofile +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ultimately you can read the current profile.conf here: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> CONFIG=/etc/sound/profiles/current/profile.conf +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But to create a new profile, just the pulseaudio package. It's basically +</I>><i> just a matter of creating a folder /etc/sound/profiles/myprofile +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When you register it with the alternatives system you give it a +</I>><i> priority. I would suggest that if the package containing the soundstudio +</I>><i> profile is not installed by default then it can have a higher priority +</I>><i> than the pulseaudio one, and thus automatically activate when installed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Things like udev rules and such like could be installed by the package +</I>><i> but only activated when the profile is actually active (e.g. via +</I>><i> symlinks) - you may want to put dummy udev rules in place for the other +</I>><i> profiles too to make the symlinks always resolve. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Also disabling libcanberra (by exporting CANBERRA_DRIVER=null) would +</I>><i> also be sensible - event sounds and such like are obviously highly +</I>><i> pointless/evil when doing pro-audio work! Currently the driver is +</I>><i> changed via this mechanism for a pure alsa profile (CANBERRA_DRIVER=alsa). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> HTHs +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Col +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Colin Guthrie +</I>><i> mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Day Job: +</I>><i>  Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +</I>><i> Open Source: +</I>><i>  Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] +</I>><i>  PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] +</I>><i>  Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002186.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2187">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2187">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2187">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2187">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2264fccd4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110116/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 16 January 2011 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>16 January 2011 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Jan 16 00:07:56 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Jan 16 19:48:33 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 11<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="002185.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2185"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002186.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks +</A><A NAME="2186"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002177.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? 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+</A><A NAME="2183"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01295198152- --> +<LI><A HREF="002184.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A><A NAME="2184"> </A> +<I>philippe makowski +</I> + +<!--0 01295200180- --> +<LI><A HREF="002185.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2185"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<!--0 01295200973- --> +<LI><A HREF="002186.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks +</A><A NAME="2186"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01295200973-01295203713- --> +<LI><A HREF="002187.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks +</A><A NAME="2187"> </A> +<I>Sascha Schneider +</I> + +</UL> + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Jan 16 19:48:33 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Jan 16 19:48:38 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |