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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20Bootstrap%20in%20Sophie&In-Reply-To=%3C20110114022808.GW10402%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mageia Bootstrap in Sophie">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+A quick mail to announce I cowardly use my mageia sysadmin power to
+steal the current bootstrap of Mageia then add it into Sophie:
+
+<A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/distrib/Mageia/bootstrap">http://sophie.zarb.org/distrib/Mageia/bootstrap</A>
+
+Which mean you use Sophie to check Mandriva's rpm (or other) and check
+if they have any chance to build.
+
+Moreover for courageous people, there is a tool, still under
+development (I do plan to make a rpm quickly for Mandriva):
+
+1) checkout sophie svn:
+svn co <A HREF="http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/sophie/svn/tools/trunk">http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/sophie/svn/tools/trunk</A>
+cd trunk
+
+2) create a config file, default is ~/.sophie.conf
+
+# proxy <A HREF="http://nanardon.zarb.org:3128/">http://nanardon.zarb.org:3128/</A>
+&lt;distrib&gt;
+distribution Mageia
+release bootstrap
+arch x86_64
+&lt;/distrib&gt;
+
+3) Try the tools
+PERL5LIB=lib perl bin/sophie-rpm -c sophie.conf
+~/RPM/RPMS/noarch/Sophie-tools-0.01-1mdv2011.0.noarch.rpm
+Loading
+/home/olivier/RPM/RPMS/noarch/Sophie-tools-0.01-1mdv2011.0.noarch.rpm
+Analysing
+/home/olivier/RPM/RPMS/noarch/Sophie-tools-0.01-1mdv2011.0.noarch.rpm
+
+Are unresolved:
+ perl-base &gt;= 2:5.12.2
+ perl(RPC::XML)
+ perl(RPC::XML::Client)
+
+Unowned directories:
+ /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.2
+
+Warning, this directory are not owned by any package:
+ /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.2
+
+Error, unresolved:
+ perl-base &gt;= 2:5.12.2
+ perl(RPC::XML)
+ perl(RPC::XML::Client)
+
+The rpm I generated on my cooker is not installable on the current
+Mageia :\
+
+But the src.rpm is mostly buildable :)
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olivier at volantis</A> trunk]$ PERL5LIB=lib perl bin/sophie-rpm -c
+sophie.conf ~/RPM/SRPMS/Sophie-tools-0.01-1mdv2011.0.src.rpm
+Loading /home/olivier/RPM/SRPMS/Sophie-tools-0.01-1mdv2011.0.src.rpm
+Analysing /home/olivier/RPM/SRPMS/Sophie-tools-0.01-1mdv2011.0.src.rpm
+
+Are unresolved:
+ perl(RPC::XML::Client)
+
+Error, unresolved:
+ perl(RPC::XML::Client)
+
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS - LATMOS
+&#9814; &#9816; &#9815; &#9813; &#9812; &#9815; &#9816; &#9814;
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+ <B>Thomas Spuhler</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20taking%20care%20of%20some%20packages%20not%20maintained%20in%0A%09Mandriva&In-Reply-To=%3C201101131956.28612.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:07:43 pm Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and philippe makowski at 13/01/11 18:07 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; looking at <A HREF="http://maint.mandriva.com/listpkgs.php?owner=1">http://maint.mandriva.com/listpkgs.php?owner=1</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I saw duplicity and python-reportlab
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; since I don't see them yet on the svn, I'm ok too taking care of them
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I will certainly also add rubygems-fb for <A HREF="http://rubygems.org/gems/fb">http://rubygems.org/gems/fb</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; no objection ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it should be first come, first served for &quot;no maintainer&quot; pkgs.
+</I>&gt;<i> If a &quot;better&quot; maintainer steps up in the future and everyone agrees,
+</I>&gt;<i> then maintainership can be ceded later.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+I wonder if all packages that have a home in Mandriva will have a maintainer
+in Mageia.
+
+--
+Thomas
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Motoko-chan</B>
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+<PRE>On 01/13/2011 02:17 PM, genomega wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -----Original Message-----
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From: Colin Guthrie&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sent: Jan 13, 2011 1:07 PM
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To: Mageia development mailing-list&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] taking care of some packages not maintained in Mandriva
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and philippe makowski at 13/01/11 18:07 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> looking at <A HREF="http://maint.mandriva.com/listpkgs.php?owner=1">http://maint.mandriva.com/listpkgs.php?owner=1</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I saw duplicity and python-reportlab
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> since I don't see them yet on the svn, I'm ok too taking care of them
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I will certainly also add rubygems-fb for <A HREF="http://rubygems.org/gems/fb">http://rubygems.org/gems/fb</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> no objection ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think it should be first come, first served for &quot;no maintainer&quot; pkgs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If a &quot;better&quot; maintainer steps up in the future and everyone agrees,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> then maintainership can be ceded later.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Day Job:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Open Source:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I took a look at a few of the unmaintained packages and being a novice packager, they were way beyond my skill set at this time. Eclipse being one of them, it contains multiple rpm,s many zip files and many patches.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Being an Eclipse user, I'd love to try updating the Eclipse packages.
+Alas, that's one very complex build. Perhaps porting the spec from
+Fedora or another RPM-based distribution using a more modern Eclipse
+would be easier than trying to update what is already there.
+
+Once my mentoring starts, I'd certainly be up for trying my hand at
+that, along with some of the other simpler unmaintained packages that I
+would personally use.
+
+ - Michael
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Thomas Spuhler</B>
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+
+--
+Thomas
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+&gt;<i> Is the bs down. Looks like rpmbuild is missing?
+</I>
+Well, it is working on command line on the build node, so I guess that
+the problem is more subtle.
+
+By the way, I have found a error :
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+[iurt cauldron] iurtjonund~$ sudo urpmi rpm-build
+sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
+sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
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+And urpmi config is empty on chroot.
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+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 13 janvier 2011 &#224; 21:04 -0700, Thomas Spuhler a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is the bs down. Looks like rpmbuild is missing?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, it is working on command line on the build node, so I guess that
+</I>&gt;<i> the problem is more subtle.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> By the way, I have found a error :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [iurt cauldron] iurtjonund~$ sudo urpmi rpm-build
+</I>&gt;<i> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
+</I>&gt;<i> sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And urpmi config is empty on chroot.
+</I>
+And the last rpm to have been compiled was make, and rpm-build requires
+it.
+
+However, sophie say that 1) make is fine
+2) rpm-build has broken deps :
+
+Error, unresolved:
+ libelf.so.1
+ libpopt.so.0
+ librpm-4.6.so
+ librpmbuild-4.6.so
+ librpmio-4.6.so
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+ <B>Hoyt Duff</B>
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+<PRE>I posted this to the general list, but didn't receive any useful
+comments so far.
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+I'm trying to learn a little about packaging and was attempting to
+build source and binary packages from a tarball with an embedded .spec
+file for rkhunter-1.3.8-1 and maybe submit it to Mageia with
+appropriate rkhunter.conf tweaks to remove false positives when I'm done.
+
+Building on Mandriva 2010.2, &quot;rpmbuild -ta&quot; fails with:
+
+&lt;SNIP&gt;
+Processing files: rkhunter-1.3.8-1
+error: File not found:
+/home/hoyt/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/rkhunter-1.3.8-1.i386/usr/lib/rkhunter
+error: File not found:
+/home/hoyt/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/rkhunter-1.3.8-1.i386/usr/lib/rkhunter/scripts
+error: File not found by glob:
+/home/hoyt/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/rkhunter-1.3.8-1.i386/usr/lib/rkhunter/scripts/*.pl
+error: File not found by glob:
+/home/hoyt/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/rkhunter-1.3.8-1.i386/usr/lib/rkhunter/scripts/*.sh
+
+I contacted the author, who says the rpm will build on Fedora. He
+says: &quot;Path error. The .spec file &quot;%define _prefix /usr/local&quot;
+and in the %files section &quot;%{_libdir}/%{name}&quot; should pick up
+&quot;%_prefix&quot;. For some
+reason it doesn't but then again I never built RPM's on Mandriva...&quot;
+
+... and gave me a hack to try that fails also with an error he has
+never seen before,
+error: Package already exists: %package __restore__
+
+The .spec file as provided defines %define _prefix as /usr/local. Yes,
+I know that it should be /usr for a Mandriva-specific package, but I'd
+like to actually build the package first so I can understand what
+needs to be patched to build from the pristine sources on
+Madriva/Mageia, not start from scratch - that kind of defeats the
+purpose of RPM.
+
+In the %files section &quot;%{_libdir}/%{name}&quot; should pick up &quot;%_prefix&quot;
+so as to have a value of /usr/local/lib,
+but it does not. As a result, some files don't get created in the proper
+directories and the build fails.
+
+What I'm asking is if there is a difference in how Mandrake handles
+that substitution versus how Fedora handles that. I installed Fedora
+in a VM and the package builds fine on Fedora, but I get the error on
+Madriva. I've examined the .spec file and don't see where there is any
+obvious problem, so I'm seeking some guidance as to where to look
+deeper.
+
+While I can find lots of (mostly useless) info on RPM building through
+Google, I'm not sure where to look for any Mandriva docs for that, so
+a suggestion for that would be welcome as well.
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+--
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+<PRE>Hoyt Duff &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>&gt; schrieb am 2011-01-14
+&gt;<i> While I can find lots of (mostly useless) info on RPM building
+</I>&gt;<i> through Google, I'm not sure where to look for any Mandriva docs
+</I>&gt;<i> for that, so a suggestion for that would be welcome as well.
+</I>What about <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva_RPM_HOWTO">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva_RPM_HOWTO</A> ?
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+And one other thing: why don't you take the Mandriva src.rpm instead
+of trying to understand the projects spec file?
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+ <B>Olivier Blin</B>
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+&gt;<i> Is the bs down. Looks like rpmbuild is missing?
+</I>
+Yes, it was.
+Actually, I've uploaded one after the other two packages that are in the
+chroot tarball: mingetty, then make.
+
+In the next package build (libcroco0.6), iurt decided to rebuild the
+chroot tarball for mingetty.
+But at the same time, make has been uploaded, and the chroot creation
+failed because the make version listed in hdlist disappeared (replaced
+by a new version).
+
+iurt detects the chroot creation failure in such cases.
+
+But this failure was not fatal (probably to workaround some previous bugs
+in urpmi return code...), and iurt thought the generated chroot tarball
+was still fine, because /bin/rpm was here...
+
+I've made this error fatal, and also added a check for /usr/bin/rpmbuild
+instead of /bin/rpm
+
+Actually, I already fixed this error in iurt SVN yesterday, but I've now
+uploaded a package with the fix on the BS nodes.
+
+Sorry for the inconvenience, it should not happen again.
+
+--
+Olivier Blin - blino
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+&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is the bs down. Looks like rpmbuild is missing?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, it was.
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, I've uploaded one after the other two packages that are in the
+</I>&gt;<i> chroot tarball: mingetty, then make.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the next package build (libcroco0.6), iurt decided to rebuild the
+</I>&gt;<i> chroot tarball for mingetty.
+</I>&gt;<i> But at the same time, make has been uploaded, and the chroot creation
+</I>&gt;<i> failed because the make version listed in hdlist disappeared (replaced
+</I>&gt;<i> by a new version).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> iurt detects the chroot creation failure in such cases.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But this failure was not fatal (probably to workaround some previous bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> in urpmi return code...), and iurt thought the generated chroot tarball
+</I>&gt;<i> was still fine, because /bin/rpm was here...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've made this error fatal, and also added a check for /usr/bin/rpmbuild
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of /bin/rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, I already fixed this error in iurt SVN yesterday, but I've now
+</I>&gt;<i> uploaded a package with the fix on the BS nodes.
+</I>
+But aren't the chroot tarball recreated at regular interval anymore ?
+
+Would it have helped to remove it ?
+
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+&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is the bs down. Looks like rpmbuild is missing?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, I already fixed this error in iurt SVN yesterday, but I've now
+</I>&gt;<i> uploaded a package with the fix on the BS nodes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for the inconvenience, it should not happen again.
+</I>
+BTW: It seems mirrordir has been built and upload on in i586 and not in x86_64.
+
+Having half of packages built isn't supposed block upload ?
+
+&gt;<i>
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+When importing packages, I'm very tempted to not import esound. It's
+only used to compile libesd. Do we really need it?
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+I don't think we ship any apps that use only esd, so I don't think
+that's a problem but perhaps some old legacy apps (i.e. games) still
+need it.
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+What do people think? It's not really much hassle to support it, but by
+the same token, dead projects have to be buried at some point!
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+Col
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+&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is the bs down. Looks like rpmbuild is missing?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, it was.
+</I>
+[...]
+
+&gt;<i> Actually, I already fixed this error in iurt SVN yesterday, but I've now
+</I>&gt;<i> uploaded a package with the fix on the BS nodes.
+</I>
+Another common error these days is that file dependencies are not added
+automatically in hdlist.
+According to genhdlist doc, this should be done automatically for
+packages from the same media.
+
+Anssi, maybe you know if this is supposed to work?
+
+I am currently workarounding this by resurrecting a small file-deps file
+in media_info.
+
+BS should be working again now that I added /bin/rm (for procps)
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+&gt;<i> Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is the bs down. Looks like rpmbuild is missing?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, it was.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, I already fixed this error in iurt SVN yesterday, but I've now
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> uploaded a package with the fix on the BS nodes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another common error these days is that file dependencies are not added
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically in hdlist.
+</I>&gt;<i> According to genhdlist doc, this should be done automatically for
+</I>&gt;<i> packages from the same media.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anssi, maybe you know if this is supposed to work?
+</I>
+I *think* it used to work, however mdv mirrors seem to currently include
+a complete file-deps file.
+
+Haven't really looked into this, though.
+
+&gt;<i> I am currently workarounding this by resurrecting a small file-deps file
+</I>&gt;<i> in media_info.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BS should be working again now that I added /bin/rm (for procps)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> On 14.01.2011 15:53, Olivier Blin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Another common error these days is that file dependencies are not added
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; automatically in hdlist.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; According to genhdlist doc, this should be done automatically for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages from the same media.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Anssi, maybe you know if this is supposed to work?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I *think* it used to work, however mdv mirrors seem to currently include
+</I>&gt;<i> a complete file-deps file.
+</I>
+Are you sure it is not a file generated long time ago and never updated
+?
+No one would have notice since 1) everything to replace dep on file by
+direct package dependencies (with some side effect I guess) 2) they do
+not change so often.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, I already fixed this error in iurt SVN yesterday, but I've now
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> uploaded a package with the fix on the BS nodes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another common error these days is that file dependencies are not added
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically in hdlist.
+</I>&gt;<i> According to genhdlist doc, this should be done automatically for
+</I>&gt;<i> packages from the same media.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anssi, maybe you know if this is supposed to work?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am currently workarounding this by resurrecting a small file-deps file
+</I>&gt;<i> in media_info.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BS should be working again now that I added /bin/rm (for procps)
+</I>
+why not resurrect full pixel's one from mdv?
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+&gt;<i> * Anssi Hannula (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 14.01.2011 15:53, Olivier Blin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Another common error these days is that file dependencies are not added
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> automatically in hdlist.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> According to genhdlist doc, this should be done automatically for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages from the same media.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anssi, maybe you know if this is supposed to work?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I *think* it used to work, however mdv mirrors seem to currently include
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a complete file-deps file.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are you sure it is not a file generated long time ago and never updated
+</I>&gt;<i> ?
+</I>
+No, I think that is exactly what it is.
+
+&gt;<i> No one would have notice since 1) everything to replace dep on file by
+</I>&gt;<i> direct package dependencies (with some side effect I guess) 2) they do
+</I>&gt;<i> not change so often.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> On 14 January 2011 14:53, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, I already fixed this error in iurt SVN yesterday, but I've now
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> uploaded a package with the fix on the BS nodes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Another common error these days is that file dependencies are not added
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatically in hdlist.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to genhdlist doc, this should be done automatically for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages from the same media.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anssi, maybe you know if this is supposed to work?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am currently workarounding this by resurrecting a small file-deps file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in media_info.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BS should be working again now that I added /bin/rm (for procps)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> why not resurrect full pixel's one from mdv?
+</I>
+Becaue we don't need that old cruft.
+
+File provides are supposed to be added automatically when building
+synthesis is other packages in the same media require it.
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, I already fixed this error in iurt SVN yesterday, but I've now
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> uploaded a package with the fix on the BS nodes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Another common error these days is that file dependencies are not added
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> automatically in hdlist.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> According to genhdlist doc, this should be done automatically for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages from the same media.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anssi, maybe you know if this is supposed to work?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am currently workarounding this by resurrecting a small file-deps file
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in media_info.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> BS should be working again now that I added /bin/rm (for procps)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> why not resurrect full pixel's one from mdv?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Becaue we don't need that old cruft.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> File provides are supposed to be added automatically when building
+</I>&gt;<i> synthesis is other packages in the same media require it.
+</I>
+ah I see, you're saying this because of the merging in core/release.
+But we might still have file deps in packages of other repos...
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+&gt;<i> On 14 January 2011 16:05, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, I already fixed this error in iurt SVN yesterday, but I've now
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> uploaded a package with the fix on the BS nodes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Another common error these days is that file dependencies are not added
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> automatically in hdlist.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> According to genhdlist doc, this should be done automatically for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages from the same media.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anssi, maybe you know if this is supposed to work?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am currently workarounding this by resurrecting a small file-deps file
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in media_info.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> BS should be working again now that I added /bin/rm (for procps)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> why not resurrect full pixel's one from mdv?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Becaue we don't need that old cruft.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> File provides are supposed to be added automatically when building
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> synthesis is other packages in the same media require it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ah I see, you're saying this because of the merging in core/release.
+</I>&gt;<i> But we might still have file deps in packages of other repos...
+</I>
+Yes, that's right...
+Though, Mandriva's file-deps is 95 lines long, maybe it can be cleaned a
+bit.
+
+And we should put it under version control, as well as media.cfg.
+Maybe like we were doing with meta-task, with auto-extraction on some
+package upload.
+
+How about a new mageia-media-info package with media.cfg + file-deps ?
+(and keeping meta-task the way it is currently)
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 14 janvier 2011 &#224; 11:39 +0100, Olivier Blin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Is the bs down. Looks like rpmbuild is missing?
+</I>
+[...]
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, I already fixed this error in iurt SVN yesterday, but I've now
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> uploaded a package with the fix on the BS nodes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But aren't the chroot tarball recreated at regular interval anymore ?
+</I>
+No, we would have to put some cron if we want this.
+But is it really useful?
+If a basesystem change, the chroot gets rebuilt automatically already.
+If no basesystem change, the rebuilt chroot will be the same, and does
+not have to be rebuilt (&quot;just in case&quot; is usually the wrong way to do
+things).
+
+&gt;<i> Would it have helped to remove it ?
+</I>
+It would have helped if triggered every hour, which does not seem
+reasonable (I guess it was every 7 days at Mandriva).
+
+Anyway, my iurt fix helps not to encounter this issue anymore, with no
+other trick.
+
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+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le vendredi 14 janvier 2011 &#224; 11:39 +0100, Olivier Blin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is the bs down. Looks like rpmbuild is missing?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, I already fixed this error in iurt SVN yesterday, but I've now
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> uploaded a package with the fix on the BS nodes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But aren't the chroot tarball recreated at regular interval anymore ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, we would have to put some cron if we want this.
+</I>&gt;<i> But is it really useful?
+</I>&gt;<i> If a basesystem change, the chroot gets rebuilt automatically already.
+</I>&gt;<i> If no basesystem change, the rebuilt chroot will be the same, and does
+</I>&gt;<i> not have to be rebuilt (&quot;just in case&quot; is usually the wrong way to do
+</I>&gt;<i> things).
+</I>
+AFAIK it was only useful because on Mandriva BS iurt never regenerated
+the chroot if it was already there, even if it was not up-to-date.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Would it have helped to remove it ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It would have helped if triggered every hour, which does not seem
+</I>&gt;<i> reasonable (I guess it was every 7 days at Mandriva).
+</I>
+AFAIK daily.
+
+&gt;<i> Anyway, my iurt fix helps not to encounter this issue anymore, with no
+</I>&gt;<i> other trick.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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+&gt;<i> Op maandag 10 januari 2011 21:05:54 schreef Thomas Backlund:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes skrev 10.1.2011 21:47:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i noticed (in commits) that there is a sizelimit on the binrepos upload.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> what if i have a binary file that is larger than that limit?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It hasn't triggered for me yet, and I've imported kernels with big
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tarballs...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am maintaining a non-free game that has a &gt;400MB binary ..
+</I>
+I wonder if we should have some size limit for such non-free stuff...
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+I don't have a strong opinion on this one, though, what do other people
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+&gt;&gt;<i> ah I see, you're saying this because of the merging in core/release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But we might still have file deps in packages of other repos...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, that's right...
+</I>&gt;<i> Though, Mandriva's file-deps is 95 lines long, maybe it can be cleaned a
+</I>&gt;<i> bit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And we should put it under version control, as well as media.cfg.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe like we were doing with meta-task, with auto-extraction on some
+</I>&gt;<i> package upload.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How about a new mageia-media-info package with media.cfg + file-deps ?
+</I>&gt;<i> (and keeping meta-task the way it is currently)
+</I>
+I agree with that
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+&gt;<i> And we should put it under version control, as well as media.cfg.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe like we were doing with meta-task, with auto-extraction on some
+</I>&gt;<i> package upload.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How about a new mageia-media-info package with media.cfg + file-deps ?
+</I>&gt;<i> (and keeping meta-task the way it is currently)
+</I>
+Why a rpm ?
+
+I am ok to put stuff in version control, but media.cfg to me belong to mirror,
+and I do not see the added value of having a rpm that no one will install.
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+Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As planned in our last meeting, work has started with about 40
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers who had already packager account in Mandriva Linux. They are
+</I>&gt;<i> at the moment creating their account, getting right access and
+</I>&gt;<i> importing first packages. In same time submit process of packages is
+</I>&gt;<i> nearly done and tests are in progress. Base system packages are
+</I>&gt;<i> getting submitted in tree.
+</I>
+Congratulations :)
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Jan 14 03:28:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Jan 14 20:52:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 26<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002135.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002139.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002144.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002146.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002147.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002134.html">[Mageia-dev] Trouble building rkhunter RPM
+</A><A NAME="2134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002133.html">[Mageia-dev] Trouble building rkhunter RPM
+</A><A NAME="2133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002138.html">[Mageia-dev] Is libesd needed anymore?
+</A><A NAME="2138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002140.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002143.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002148.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002149.html">[Mageia-dev] large proprietary applications (was: Re: questions)
+</A><A NAME="2149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002129.html">[Mageia-dev] taking care of some packages not maintained in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="2129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Motoko-chan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002152.html">[Mageia-dev] News of the front: first commits and mentoring start
+</A><A NAME="2152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002131.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002132.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002136.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002128.html">[Mageia-dev] taking care of some packages not maintained in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="2128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002130.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002127.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Bootstrap in Sophie
+</A><A NAME="2127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002137.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002141.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002142.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002145.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002150.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002151.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Jan 14 20:52:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Jan 14 20:55:11 CET 2011</i>
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+ <ul>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Jan 14 03:28:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Jan 14 20:52:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 26<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002127.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Bootstrap in Sophie
+</A><A NAME="2127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002128.html">[Mageia-dev] taking care of some packages not maintained in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="2128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002129.html">[Mageia-dev] taking care of some packages not maintained in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="2129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Motoko-chan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002130.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002131.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002132.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002133.html">[Mageia-dev] Trouble building rkhunter RPM
+</A><A NAME="2133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002134.html">[Mageia-dev] Trouble building rkhunter RPM
+</A><A NAME="2134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002135.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002136.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002137.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002138.html">[Mageia-dev] Is libesd needed anymore?
+</A><A NAME="2138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002139.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002140.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002141.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002142.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002143.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002144.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002145.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002146.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002147.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002148.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002149.html">[Mageia-dev] large proprietary applications (was: Re: questions)
+</A><A NAME="2149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002150.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002151.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002152.html">[Mageia-dev] News of the front: first commits and mentoring start
+</A><A NAME="2152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Jan 14 20:52:08 CET 2011</i><br>
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+ <ul>
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+
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Jan 14 03:28:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Jan 14 20:52:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 26<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002130.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002131.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002132.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002135.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002136.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002137.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002139.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002140.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002141.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002142.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002143.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002144.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002145.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002146.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002147.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002148.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002150.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002151.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002138.html">[Mageia-dev] Is libesd needed anymore?
+</A><A NAME="2138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002149.html">[Mageia-dev] large proprietary applications (was: Re: questions)
+</A><A NAME="2149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002127.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Bootstrap in Sophie
+</A><A NAME="2127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002152.html">[Mageia-dev] News of the front: first commits and mentoring start
+</A><A NAME="2152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002129.html">[Mageia-dev] taking care of some packages not maintained in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="2129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Motoko-chan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002128.html">[Mageia-dev] taking care of some packages not maintained in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="2128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002133.html">[Mageia-dev] Trouble building rkhunter RPM
+</A><A NAME="2133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002134.html">[Mageia-dev] Trouble building rkhunter RPM
+</A><A NAME="2134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Jan 14 20:52:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Jan 14 20:55:11 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Jan 14 03:28:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Jan 14 20:52:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 26<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01294972088- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002127.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Bootstrap in Sophie
+</A><A NAME="2127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294973788- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002128.html">[Mageia-dev] taking care of some packages not maintained in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="2128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294976735- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002129.html">[Mageia-dev] taking care of some packages not maintained in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="2129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Motoko-chan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294977844- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002130.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01294977844-01294979121- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002131.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01294977844-01294979121-01294979582- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002132.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01294977844-01295001557- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002135.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01294977844-01295001557-01295006343- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002136.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01294977844-01295001557-01295006343-01295023495- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002147.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294977844-01295001557-01295006343-01295023495-01295024240- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002148.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01294977844-01295001557-01295006698- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002137.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01294977844-01295001557-01295013223- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002139.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01294977844-01295001557-01295013223-01295014543- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002140.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294977844-01295001557-01295013223-01295014543-01295017253- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002141.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294977844-01295001557-01295013223-01295014543-01295017253-01295017330- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002143.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294977844-01295001557-01295013223-01295017272- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002142.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294977844-01295001557-01295013223-01295017272-01295017538- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002144.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294977844-01295001557-01295013223-01295017272-01295017538-01295019283- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002145.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294977844-01295001557-01295013223-01295017272-01295017538-01295019283-01295023241- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002146.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294977844-01295001557-01295013223-01295017272-01295017538-01295019283-01295023241-01295029003- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002150.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294977844-01295001557-01295013223-01295017272-01295017538-01295019283-01295023241-01295032687- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002151.html">[Mageia-dev] bs down
+</A><A NAME="2151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01294982915- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002133.html">[Mageia-dev] Trouble building rkhunter RPM
+</A><A NAME="2133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01294982915-01294990741- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002134.html">[Mageia-dev] Trouble building rkhunter RPM
+</A><A NAME="2134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295007774- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002138.html">[Mageia-dev] Is libesd needed anymore?
+</A><A NAME="2138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01295027713- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002149.html">[Mageia-dev] large proprietary applications (was: Re: questions)
+</A><A NAME="2149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01295034728- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002152.html">[Mageia-dev] News of the front: first commits and mentoring start
+</A><A NAME="2152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Jan 14 20:52:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Jan 14 20:55:11 CET 2011</i>
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