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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09sound-scripts-0.61-2.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3C4E770F10.70105%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"
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+ <I>Mon Sep 19 11:44:48 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 18/09/11 18:57 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 17/09/11 17:26 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 17 September 2011 17:15, Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> colin &lt;colin&gt; 0.61-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 144548
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Remove systemd units (superceded by alsa-utils)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Remove snd-usb-audio modprobe rules (unnecessary)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Did you fixed the war against webcam another way?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this a problem of webcam mics not working if they are present during
+</I>&gt;<i> boot? If not, can you remember the problem better?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If so, no I've not fixed, but will find an official way that we can
+</I>&gt;<i> submit upstream.
+</I>
+Whoops, it seems this conversation went off list accidentally.
+
+TV clarified that the problem the snd-usb-audio modprobe rule solved was
+that of webcams getting the card0 slot on boot and pushing the normal,
+built in audio system to card1.
+
+As this problem attempts to resolve the underlying limitations of alsa
+(not preserving the audio device order) in a generic way (specific
+index= arguments could be added to your own specific hardware to solve
+it also), and considering that device order really shouldn't matter when
+PulseAudio is used (it has it's own built in system for determining the
+&quot;priority&quot; of devices when a first boot with a new user is encountered
+so that the correct defaults will be picked on first boot and there
+after it's the user's choice), I'm not really inclined to attempt to fix
+this &quot;bug&quot;.
+
+If people feel super strongly about it I can look into it, but I think
+it's really a matter of &quot;tough love&quot; for the non-PA case if it means we
+have to put in lots of crazy work arounds like this.
+
+Opinions welcome.
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>]
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>]
+ PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>]
+ Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>]
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