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+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
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+ <I>Thu Sep 15 22:10:54 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:12:11 -0400, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On 15 September 2011 12:48, Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The problem is the situation is a lot more different that what the secteam at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mdv had to face. Would we only need to add &quot;new&quot; dependencies to updated
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages, that would be no big deal and we wouldn't make all this noise, we'd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just copy the deps and that's all. The problem is that we support migration
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia 1, and that causes various situations where
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> *any* dependency of an updated package can be required to install from Core
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release, so we have to copy the full dependency chain !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK.
+</I>
+Note that determining which dependencies have to be linked is not easy.
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+Some packages do not get installed from Core Release (or dvd), during upgrade,
+as they are required by packages that are in Mandriva, but not in Mageia 1.
+(Requires with explicit versions).
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+When that missing package gets added to updates, mgaapplet will also try
+to install the dependencies from Core Release, to get the right version.
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+Likewise with the dependencies of those dependencies.
+
+In the original bug 2097 (the one that triggered the filing of bug 2317),
+kipi-plugins-expoblending could not be installed due to hugin only being
+in core release. So hugin was added to Core Updates.
+
+The update still failed, as hugin requires enblend, which was only in Core
+Release. So not only do we need to link added dependencies, but a
+recursive list of dependencies, with no easy way to figure out which
+ones are really required.
+
+&gt;<i> Note that his patch is broken as reported by testers...
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;the patch (...) suggested some updates from Backports Testing, even though
+</I>&gt;<i> the repository was not enabled&quot;
+</I>
+Yes my attempted patch failed. In my opinion, what we need, is for mgaapplet
+to use it's current method to determine if there are updates, but use the
+equivalent of urpmi --auto-select, to actually get the updates list, and
+install them.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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