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+ <B>Florian Hubold</B>
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+<PRE>Am 03.09.2011 09:22, schrieb Maarten Vanraes:
+&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 03 september 2011 01:50:08 schreef Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 02.09.2011 20:15, schrieb Maarten Vanraes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 02 september 2011 16:50:00 schreef Thierry Vignaud:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 2 September 2011 14:06, Michael Scherer&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It would help would be by having smaller hdlists, but I am not sure it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> would really help mirror so much. ( ie, I would not say &quot;lots of space&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> even if that still a saving )
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Actualy hdlist are pretty much unused these days.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi (and thus the installer) doesn't use them any longer for quite a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> few years already (at least since 2007 or 2008).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At that time, we only kept those big babies for:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - users adding media from older distro for live upgrading but:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1) all mdv distros since 4 years handle that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2) we don't support upgrading from anything&lt;2010
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - some test tools (don't remember which one) that nobody use still parse
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> them
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's why network BW usage by urpmi is small for checking media
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (checking if MD5SUM still matches then download small synthesis if
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> needed) That doesn't change the amount of RAM and the CPU time needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to parse&amp; compute updates but thats' another story...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We could try to disable hdlists from cauldron mirrors and see who's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> crying (I guess nobody will)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> isn't hdlists still necessary for urpmf and urmq ? (I don't know, i'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just asking)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, then they obviously wouldn't work anymore, since by default only
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> synthesis are used :)
+</I>&gt;<i> so even the synthesis files are too big? i mean, if you're in rpmdrake, and you
+</I>&gt;<i> click on a package, it seems to fetch more details. is that from synthesis
+</I>&gt;<i> files? because it takes quite some time to fetch it...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Not too big, but it also takes a while to download/process these.
+Just take a look at the /media_info directory in any repository.
+Besides the synthesis.hdlist there are additional files with the metainfo
+about files, changelog, and info.
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