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should have been 865. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So here the problems here seems to happend when using the *specific* mdv +</I>>><i> plugin +</I>>><i> on mageia 1&  not with the native plugin (keyfile). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, it uses whatever the Mageia install puts there.  I didn't change +</I>><i> anything from the defaults, much less anything specific to NM, about which I +</I>><i> know next to nothing. +</I>I did not say anything else. +I personally don't use the rhplugin or the mdv before but always +switch to keyfile. + +><i> And all of this goes to Cauldron, not 1.  I have never done an install of 1, +</I>><i> but always Cauldron with daily updates and periodic (~ every three weeks or +</I>><i> so ) fresh installs. +</I>On this initial bug report Mageia was providing the « old » 0.8.x +version which in fact was only available in mageia 1 since dmorgan +updated it to the 0.9 beta series once he started the migration to +gnome3. + +>><i> The bug was reported the 2011-07-15 while nm was updated to the beta 0.9 +</I>>><i> the +</I>>><i> 2011-06-14 by dmorgan. +</I>>><i> The support for ifcfg files  (aka respect the  NM_CONTROLLED=no and what i +</I>>><i> was +</I>>><i> wrongly calling support in sysvinit) was added by blino on 2011-07-31 by +</I>>><i> patching the redhat plugin. +</I>>><i> > From the log you did past in comment #1 we can see that NM&  sysvinit +</I>>><i> > are +</I>>><i> trying to put on the same interface. +</I>>><i> You never explicity wrote that you have in your nm to control your wifi +</I>>><i> interface from what you write&  since i can see ifplug running i can +</I>>><i> expect +</I>>><i> that you were using by default sysvinit script&  not nm. +</I>[...] +><i> +</I>><i> Just to clarify, none of these errors is specific to system startup.  All of +</I>><i> them and all of the doc I included in my bugreports was taken from attempts +</I>><i> to activate the interface *after* bootup.  So I still don't see what +</I>><i> sysvinit would have to do with it. +</I>Add said earlier i wrongly used the term of sysvinit when talking +abouf the ifcfg-. + +>><i> You never explicity wrote that you have in your nm to control your wifi +</I>>><i> interface from what you write&  since i can see ifplug running i can +</I>>><i> expect +</I>>><i> that you were using by default sysvinit script&  not nm +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm not sure what you mean by this.  "in your nm" would imply that I +</I>><i> modified some NM-specific config file, which I assure you I did not.  I +</I>><i>  have never done anything NM-specific to control NM.  The only things not +</I>><i> done indirectly by NM itself or net-applet were my settings of NM_CONTROLLED +</I>><i> and NEEDHOSTNAME in the ifcfg. +</I>I wrote too fast here. +I meant that you never wrote somewhere that you choose to use nm +(especially since i can notice that ifplugd was playing with nm in the +logs). + +><i> If there's an NM config option here that's out-of-line, it's Mageia that's +</I>><i> putting it there, not me. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Then if nm does not respect the NM_CONTROLLED=no (using the rhkeyfile +</I>>><i> plugin) +</I>>><i> then it should be reported&  assigned to blino. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I agree but realize that if I have to use this to begin with, there's an NM +</I>><i> bug that is potentially severe enough to prevent distro deployment. +</I>I do understand & that's why i suggested you to use the keyfile plugin +in #865 instead of the « ifcfg-mdv plugin not maintained anymore in +0.8.x » or the rh plugin which also lacks some functionnality. + +><i> Really, guys, I sympathize with the desire to move to something newer +</I>><i> supported by others.  But you have to be ready to deal with the issue of +</I>><i> back-breakage. +</I>I personally don't care if Mageia wants to switch to nm or stick to +drakx-net, i was here to comment some bugs linked by you here. +Nm is provided by mageia and it's far than enough for me because i'm +able to use it without problem since Mageia 1. So as long as we have +someone to deal/maintain with drakx-net we can still follow this road. +[...] +><i> +</I>><i> Blowing away the wireless capability of a significant portion of the +</I>><i> community and then sitting back and saying stuff like "well it was a beta" +</I>><i> or "we have to wait for upstream to fix that" doesn't cut it.   This isn't +</I>><i> just a blind rebuild of some stable package that doesn't warrant preliminary +</I>><i> testing.  It's a major piece of the distro infrastructure, and you shouldn't +</I>><i> be doing changes like that unless +</I>Again here could you please test with the *keyfile* plugin & if it's +still broken with the native plugin report it upstream so we can get a +bug fix for it ? (yes yet another fingers @ upstream :p ) + + + + +-- +Balcaen John +Jabber-id: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009717.html">[Mageia-dev] Drakx-net or NetworkManager for Mageia 2 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009719.html">[Mageia-dev] Drakx-net or NetworkManager for Mageia 2 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9718">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9718">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9718">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9718">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |