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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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| committer | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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Not +</I>><i> everybody make the distinction between minor and major, especially for +</I>><i> software developpers. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And again, the question of QA is here. Since we didn't detect the +</I>><i> regression ( and since there is so much crashes to fix, and sine +</I>><i> everybody think that's important enough to bypass our policy, according +</I>><i> to people in the thread ), how do people plan to make sure the most +</I>><i> obvious one are corrected ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Do we have open bug reports about them, with clear reproducer ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And do at least someone plan to use kdenlive enough to say "this fixed +</I>><i> the bug I have been seeing before" ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Or do we plan to do "it started, so it is good enough, let's ship it" ? +</I>So your proposal is to basically redo the whole upstream work and separating +the bugfixes from the new features? If this isn't done by an experienced developer, +i think the chances of adding regressions in doing this for the 140 bugfixes +or whatever is higher than directly using upstream release. + +Also i think this, measuring with two scales, and maybe over-simplifying it is +a bit unfair, we had KDE bugfix/feature updates, and now we say: +No, we can't do this? Either only bugfix through patches or no update at all? + + +An example: For ffmpeg, to fix the reported multiple security issues, +as 0.6 branch is not supported upstream anymore, basically we'd need +to go over through 7500 commits, check if they are bugfix or security- +related, and cherrypick the relevant ones. I don't have enough C/git +knowledge to do this, and Anssi is quite short on spare time, so it may +take a while to get this done. In some rare cases it is either really really +difficult or not doable due to manpower constraints. + + +Also i'd like to notice that we don't do automated regression testing or +unit tests, and we were at the process of bootstrapping mageia where +the tests should have gotten this. IMHO you can't possibly expect that, +there were simply not enough endusers to catch such bugs/regressions. + +In a perfect world, yes, sure, but remember we're not in an ideal, perfect world. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009544.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009563.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9553">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9553">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9553">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9553">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |