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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+<PRE>Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mariadb-5.5.15-0.mga2 should be hitting the mirrors soon (at cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> core/updates_testing). It's purpose is to be an alternative to mysql. for that
+</I>&gt;<i> reason, mariadb packages provide also the similar mysql targets.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mariadb is intended to be a drop-in replacement for mysql, it goes so far to
+</I>&gt;<i> actually have the same files and ABI's as mysql. after looking at their forking
+</I>&gt;<i> process (it's not actually a full fork, they start from mysql and then patch),
+</I>&gt;<i> i've seen that it's actually very good for a drop-in replacement. There are a
+</I>&gt;<i> few differences ( <A HREF="http://kb.askmonty.org/en/mariadb-versus-mysql-compatibility">http://kb.askmonty.org/en/mariadb-versus-mysql-compatibility</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ) but they are minor. I've done a few minor tests with amarok, akonadi, drupal
+</I>&gt;<i> and phpmyadmin (and of course mysql client).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> NOTE: mariadb provides actually most storage engines mysql provides as well,
+</I>&gt;<i> but also the original and unpatched MyISAM and InnoDB engines from mysql. On
+</I>&gt;<i> top of that, it has some extra storage engines. XtraDB, which is the drop-in
+</I>&gt;<i> replacement storage engine for Innodb, is essentially an innodb with extra
+</I>&gt;<i> patches from various sources, like google, facebook, etc... ( see
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://kb.askmonty.org/en/mariadb-versus-mysql-features">http://kb.askmonty.org/en/mariadb-versus-mysql-features</A> )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've chosen to use mkrel 0 atm, because it's not a released version yet, I've
+</I>&gt;<i> talked extensively to mariadb developers, and they mentioned that they did 5.3
+</I>&gt;<i> and 5.5 in parallel, so that 5.5 should be released as beta pretty soon. When
+</I>&gt;<i> i talked about our release schedule, they did mention that mariadb-5.5 should
+</I>&gt;<i> be final before februari.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My plan is as follows:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. provide testing package [DONE]
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. clean up spec file from mysql and file some patches upstream [DONE]
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. provide newer testing package when it's released as a alpha/beta
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. if testing is satisfactory (not breaking buildsystem or mysql) submit to
+</I>&gt;<i> core/release and get more testing.
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. if final 5.5 release is on time, have mariadb into mageia2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> now there, we have a few options:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> considering that mariadb is essentially mysql + extra features, if we ship
+</I>&gt;<i> both mysql and mariadb, we should ensure that normal users don't go from
+</I>&gt;<i> mariadb to mysql. (if a storage engine would be used that's NOT in mysql,
+</I>&gt;<i> suddenly a few databases might not work, even though the data is still there.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A. provide both but with vendor preference
+</I>&gt;<i> making sure one of them both is preferred should be ok, since they conflict
+</I>&gt;<i> anyway, if a user installs the non-preferred one, she knows what she's doing.
+</I>&gt;<i> ( I think a note could be added here for warning purposes )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> B. only use mariadb anymore
+</I>&gt;<i> =&gt; That's the easiest and safest option...
+</I>&gt;<i> _IF_ mariadb works well. (which i'm sure we'll see in our testing)
+</I>&gt;<i> (IMHO, if it worked for libreoffice, i don't see why not for mariadb)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> any opinions? testings? problems?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I think it is a great idea, from all I've read.
+I've already been thinking of installing it in place of mysql.
+
+As for the options, I'm inclined to prefer a choice (option A), since
+some users could have problems with either, given that there are some
+(minor) incompatibilities.
+But if we have only one, at least those preferring the other could
+always go upstream.
+
+As for what was done with Libreoffice/Openoffice, the obsolete forced me
+to install upstream versions to have both installed. They have no file
+conflict.
+One can even have installed (but not run at the same time) different
+versions of upstream Libreoffice at the same time. (They recommend
+doing that for testing.)
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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