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+<PRE>Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 02 November 2011 01:05, andre999 wrote:
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Since you have read the reference, you didn't notice that the option of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> separate partitions is _not_ precluded ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some of the answers I got here suggested otherwize. if /usr needs to be mounted in order for the system to boot normally. Then have systemd mount it.
+</I>&gt;<i> I do see that there might be some problems involved in solving it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+I think it is better to mount any separate /usr as early in the boot
+process as possible.
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+[...]
+&gt;&gt;<i> and never appreciated the gymnastics of different commands with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the same name to handle root/non-root permissions for certain commands.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I haven't noticed that. do you have an example?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+See the attached file of duplications of names on my computer.
+There are 76 duplications in the 4 directories.
+Those ending in @ are symbolic links. Such duplications will disappear
+with the merging.
+The others are mostly (if not all) scripts which link to a routine which
+asks for the root password for certain commands, according to enabled
+permissions. If the permissions are enabled and the password correctly
+entered, the user is rerouted to the initial command. A less obscure
+way of dealing with it would be better.
+(I forget the details, but someone like tv or misc would know.)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> To me, avoiding unnecessary complication by design is a big plus.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agreed. But don't throw the baby out with the water. ;-)=
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If just changing initramfs to load any separate /usr partition will fix
+it, I don't see that we are losing anything.
+Although if someone like tmb can initially misunderstand the impact, I
+guess anyone can. (It took me a while.)
+
+Maybe it will be more trouble to make such an initramfs, but once it is
+made, it should work nicely. Without a special reason to have a
+separate /usr, I would say that it is better to avoid it.
+I see that ensuring that everything necessary to fully boot being
+guaranteed to be available very early in the boot process is a big plus.
+If /home isn't available, one can always login to root. As well,
+keeping /home on a separate partition has advantages for ensuring the
+persistance of personal data and configuration in the event of
+reformatting /.
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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