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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2011/7/8 andre999&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/7/7 nicolas vigier&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 07 Jul 2011, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I must admit I do not understand the cause of this discussion, maybe I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> am thinking in too simple ways. Free goes in core, non-free goes in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> non-free. If a non-free software has a restrictive license it goes in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tainted. A free software can not have a restrictive license, if it has
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it is not free and goes in tainted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Tainted is not about restrictive license but patents. A free software
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> can have a free license, but do something which is maybe patented.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, right. I made a mistake there - just replace &quot;restrictive
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> license&quot; with &quot;patents&quot; in my sentence.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;free&quot; means that it can be redistributed with source code, with a free/open
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> source license.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;non-free&quot; (in terms of the repos) means that it can be redistributed, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> either not with source code, according to the license + or we simply don't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have/can't get the source code.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;tainted&quot; was mostly for packages affected to some extent by tainted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> patents.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Such packages could be free or non-free, that has nothing to do with being
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in &quot;tainted&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some discussions in the past considered that the likelihood of a patent
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> impacting a particular software (in the few countries that do accept
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> software packages to some extent, like the USA), should affect whether it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> goes into tainted or not. I don't know what consensus there was on this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> point, if any.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That exactly was the reason why &quot;tainted&quot; was created. The gathering
+</I>&gt;<i> of such software in one repo to make it easy for users and mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainers in those countries to avoid them if they chose (or are
+</I>&gt;<i> forced) to do so.
+</I>
+Since as far as I know, nobody introduced any evidence during the debate of any
+mirror being pursued for carrying potentially patent-affected packages, despite
+the fact that many mirrors in the USA, for example, carry such packages, any
+problem for mirrors is a moot point.
+
+However users (or mirrors) that wish to respect patent claims would evidently
+appreciate avoiding the contents of a &quot;tainted&quot; repository.
+
+Remember that very few patent claims against software are ever validated by the
+courts. Most pursuits in the USA are against companies with very deep pockets,
+which are often settled out of court for convenience. Generally in these
+cases, the defending party is earning revenues from the subject of the patent
+claim. Which of course doesn't apply to software distributed for free by mirrors.
+(e.g., if I remember correctly, Novell paid license fees to Microsoft for
+patent claims, while other companies successfully contested the same claims in
+court.)
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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