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Free goes in core, non-free goes in +</I>>>>>><i> non-free. If a non-free software has a restrictive license it goes in +</I>>>>>><i> tainted. A free software can not have a restrictive license, if it has +</I>>>>>><i> it is not free and goes in tainted. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Tainted is not about restrictive license but patents. A free software +</I>>>>><i> can have a free license, but do something which is maybe patented. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Yes, right. I made a mistake there - just replace "restrictive +</I>>>><i> license" with "patents" in my sentence. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> "free" means that it can be redistributed with source code, with a free/open +</I>>><i> source license. +</I>>><i> "non-free" (in terms of the repos) means that it can be redistributed, but +</I>>><i> either not with source code, according to the license + or we simply don't +</I>>><i> have/can't get the source code. +</I>>><i> "tainted" was mostly for packages affected to some extent by tainted +</I>>><i> patents. +</I>>><i> Such packages could be free or non-free, that has nothing to do with being +</I>>><i> in "tainted". +</I>>><i> Some discussions in the past considered that the likelihood of a patent +</I>>><i> impacting a particular software (in the few countries that do accept +</I>>><i> software packages to some extent, like the USA), should affect whether it +</I>>><i> goes into tainted or not. I don't know what consensus there was on this +</I>>><i> point, if any. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That exactly was the reason why "tainted" was created. The gathering +</I>><i> of such software in one repo to make it easy for users and mirror +</I>><i> maintainers in those countries to avoid them if they chose (or are +</I>><i> forced) to do so. +</I> +Since as far as I know, nobody introduced any evidence during the debate of any +mirror being pursued for carrying potentially patent-affected packages, despite +the fact that many mirrors in the USA, for example, carry such packages, any +problem for mirrors is a moot point. + +However users (or mirrors) that wish to respect patent claims would evidently +appreciate avoiding the contents of a "tainted" repository. + +Remember that very few patent claims against software are ever validated by the +courts. Most pursuits in the USA are against companies with very deep pockets, +which are often settled out of court for convenience. Generally in these +cases, the defending party is earning revenues from the subject of the patent +claim. Which of course doesn't apply to software distributed for free by mirrors. +(e.g., if I remember correctly, Novell paid license fees to Microsoft for +patent claims, while other companies successfully contested the same claims in +court.) + +-- +André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006462.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006469.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6464">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6464">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6464">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6464">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |