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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] RFC: Drop mkinitrd completely in favour of dracut.</H1>
+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RFC: Drop mkinitrd completely in favour of dracut.">anssi at mageia.org
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+ <I>Wed Dec 14 01:47:00 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 03.12.2011 16:39, Anssi Hannula wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 03.12.2011 08:05, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anssi Hannula skrev 3.12.2011 01:06:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 03.12.2011 00:18, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anssi Hannula skrev 2.12.2011 23:17:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Patch attached. I guess this would remain as a Mageia specific patch as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the wanted behavior is dependant on how the distribution handles driver
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> switching etc...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Speaking of driver switching...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is it possible to detect missing radeon firmware in initrd in early
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> boot, and then switch to loading radeon with modeset=0 ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Seems doable (if a bit hacky), but unfortunately new radeon cards (at
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> least cayman/northern islands) do not work without KMS at all (while
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> slightly older cards like Evergreen mostly work but without any kind of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2d/3d acceleration).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah, I started thinking about those too after my post...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This also means that X server will fail to start since it doesn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> fallback to autodetection (and therefore vesa) when the card is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> explicitely listed in xorg.conf.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Not quite sure what is the best way forward.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hm, so we would need a split in detection for nonkms capable cards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and the rest...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or take the easy way out and boot everyone on vesa until radeon firmware
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is available...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does loading of radeon modesetting kernel driver without firmware break
+</I>&gt;<i> the boot completely, or does it just make X.org server fail to start?
+</I>
+Does anyone know?
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> BTW, shouldn't we regenerate initrds when installing radeon-firmware for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the first time?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah, I've been thinking the same, but haven't gotten around to doing it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> yet.
+</I>
+One possibility is to make dracut record the missing firmware files
+somewhere, and then in %post or in filetrigger (for /lib/firmware) check
+if missing firmware got installed, and in that case run
+bootloader-config --action rebuild-initrds.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> and what about nvidia* and fglrx, should they do the same ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, currently we always include the KMS drivers in initrd, and when
+</I>&gt;<i> nvidia* or fglrx is enabled we simply add nokmsboot (mga/mdv specific)
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel parameter to avoid initrd rebuild.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and for a dkms related issue, I've also been thinking we whould
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> trigger dkms rebuild on kernel install to save time on next bootup.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would seem reasonable, it would just be a matter of
+</I>&gt;<i> [ -x /usr/sbin/dkms_autoinstaller ] &amp;&amp; \
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/sbin/dkms_autoinstaller start %kernelver || :
+</I>&gt;<i> in kernel %post AFAICS...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
+</PRE>
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