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All modules are possible to turn-on and to +</I>>>>><i> turn-off in a menu of X. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> And there is a discussion because there is no Y at all in Mageia. +</I>>>>><i> Person A says: +</I>>>>><i> - include the module, even if there is no Y in Mageia (and maybe never +</I>>>>><i> will be included), because an end-user can install Y from alternative +</I>>>>><i> source or compile it from sources; and don't add Suggests/Requires for Y +</I>>>>><i> in the package, because it's obvious that this is to support Y; also +</I>>>>><i> installing Y from alternative sources/self-compilation is much simpler +</I>>>>><i> than reinstalling X with support for Y +</I>>>>><i> Person B says: +</I>>>>><i> - don't include the module, because Y is a dependency for the module of +</I>>>>><i> X - and we don't ship broken packages that aren't self-contained; so it +</I>>>>><i> must be excluded from X or the nobody has package Y and maintain it +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Neither A nor B want to work with Y package. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Who is right? +</I>>>><i> imho, if Y is wanted by some people, and X works more of less fine +</I>>>><i> without Y even if it's support is compiled, and sometimes a get-Y +</I>>>><i> package is fine. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> imho it's maintainer's preference, if maintainer is fine to also "support +</I>>>><i> the Y-module for X" even if depends on Y and Y is not allowed in mageia, +</I>>>><i> or even if Y is in nonfree... it's fine by me. +</I>>>><i> let's get into specifics: +</I>>><i> Well here there is no nonfree, demo, shareware, license issue. Just Y is +</I>>><i> yet another media-player. Importing Y is not a case for neiher A nor B. +</I>>><i> There is a question to include or not include a module (as an external +</I>>><i> package %{name}-module-mediaplayer_Y) for X. X is working perfectly +</I>>><i> without Y - Y is just adding some extra features. But the module for X +</I>>><i> is NOT working without Y. Well it's probably not breaking X, there will +</I>>><i> be an error message "error loading module-mediaplayer_Y". +</I>><i> you could find a way to configure it as disabled? +</I>Yes +><i> or move it to a subdir of sorts with a mention that if they do have Y that +</I>><i> they can put this file in the other dir. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> or... have a subpackage for this module and don't suggest it. plus have a +</I>><i> warning in it to say that it requires bla. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> so my vote is for A) +</I>I like the idea with URPMI warning at the install time, this would solve +the problem. "If you need Y support for X, we include the module, but +obtain Y at your own." +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="010316.html">[Mageia-dev] Build-in or stand-alone module for X to support Y +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="010319.html">[Mageia-dev] Build-in or stand-alone module for X to support Y +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#10318">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#10318">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#10318">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#10318">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |