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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+ <I>Fri Dec 10 19:54:08 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
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+&gt;<i> 2010/12/10 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ok, but you still take into account SP in your answer. :-p (we would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have come to that, but the idea was to think about it from a na&#239;ve,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; software-patent-free perspective).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If there were no software patents anywhere what would be the issue of
+</I>&gt;<i> this discussion?
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO it makes no sense to discuss something which does not exist
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If Mageia were a project fro French users only we would no have this
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion. But as it is a worldwide project the probelm exists and
+</I>&gt;<i> pretending it does not makes no sense, not even from a theoretical
+</I>&gt;<i> POV. because the theoretical POV is &quot;No SP, no discussion&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see the strategy in your proposition but:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. We know from the start that there ARE packages with software which
+</I>&gt;<i> is patented in some countries. So, the &quot;let's start empty and see what
+</I>&gt;<i> comes up&quot; is already done with.
+</I>
+Being patented does not mean that patent is valid and enforceable.
+
+&gt;<i> 2. In some countries mirror maintainers can not wait until somebody
+</I>&gt;<i> raises his hand, there are lawyers who write nice &quot;cease and desist&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> letters, attached is a bill you have to pay. In Germany this is called
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Kostenpflichtige Abmahnung&quot; and has grown to a habit of some
+</I>&gt;<i> lawyers.
+</I>&gt;<i> Meaning: you can't wait and see what happens, you have to make sure
+</I>&gt;<i> that it does not happen from the start.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I mean, opinions about software patents set aside for a minute,
+</I>&gt;<i> software patents are protected by official law in those countries. You
+</I>&gt;<i> can not break the law on the basis of &quot;let's see what happens&quot;.
+</I>
+The problem is that we don't know for sure if we violate the law. We
+should not be too paranoid about this. Microsoft claims that the Linux
+kernel violates 235 of their patents :
+<A HREF="http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/index.htm">http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/index.htm</A>
+Should we trust them and remove the kernel from the core repository ?
+
+I'm wondering how much mirror admins are concerned about patent issues.
+If we split the packages between core and &quot;tainted&quot; repositories, how
+many will filter it ? If only a few will do it, maybe it's not really
+worth it and we can still have enough mirrors. It seems that Debian has
+mirrors in many countries, while hosting patented software in its main
+repository.
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