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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+<PRE>Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 04 december 2010 21:32:51 schreef andre999:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, 4 Dec 2010, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> John a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 11:28:26 +0100
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 03 december 2010 10:45:05 schreef Ahmad Samir:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The kernel uses the word &quot;tainted&quot; when it detects the nvidia
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> proprietary module for example, (which admittedly gave me a bit of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shock the first time I saw it :)).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Heh, i had the same reaction.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> From all the proposed names, I think &quot;tainted&quot; is the best one, as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages in there are in a &quot;grey&quot; zone, i.e. not totally illegal
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> everywhere, but illegal only in some places in the world. And in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reality the existence of a patent doesn't necessarily mean it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> enforceable in a court of law (the only way we'd know for sure is if
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> someone actually does try to sue)... my 0.02&#8364; worth :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Generally only potentially &quot;illegal&quot; in some countries.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Tainted&quot; means contaminated, polluted. A lot stronger than
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> potentially &quot;illegal&quot;. (Really only actionable in a civil sense, not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> criminally illegal, as well.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A package could end up there due to an apparently credible rumour,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> later discredited. (Anyone remember SCO ?)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I agree. Problematic comes closer to &quot;potentially illegal&quot;, so I looked
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> up some synonyms: ambiguous, debatable, dubious,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> iffy, suspect, speculative, precarious, suspicious, uncertain,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> unsettled, in addition to problematic itself. Personally
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I like iffy, which is both short and to the point, but I think several
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of these would do. WDYT?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A much better set of choices.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (Thanks for looking these up. Good idea.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Let's remember that the question for these packages is not the quality
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of their functioning - but rather the advisability to use them, for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other reasons, in some countries.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I think that it is better to avoid words that could question the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> QUALITY of the packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Words in the list like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ambiguous, debatable, problematic, and speculative
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> avoid questioning the quality ... but could be too long or too formal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or just not catchy enough ;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (&quot;Iffy&quot; might be ok - certainly catchy enough.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Additional words I found in Roget's thesaurus, along the same lines :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Associated more with debatable :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> arguable, contestable, controvertible, disputable, questionable,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Associated more with controversial :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> confutable, deniable, mistakable, moot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of these additional words, I think that &quot;contestable&quot;, &quot;disputable&quot;, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;controversial&quot; are probably closest to the SENSE of the repositories.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But maybe too formal ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Many of these words could be good choices.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And maybe someone will come up with some more ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> my 2 cents :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Andr&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i like speculative
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That's not bad
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