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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101130/001557.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101130/001557.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3bd7f7155 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101130/001557.html @@ -0,0 +1,156 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Support policy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Support%20policy&In-Reply-To=%3C1291130005.8266.507.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001549.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001558.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Support policy</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Support%20policy&In-Reply-To=%3C1291130005.8266.507.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Support policy">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Nov 30 16:13:25 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001549.html">[Mageia-dev] Support policy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001558.html">[Mageia-dev] Support policy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1557">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1557">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1557">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1557">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 30 novembre 2010 à 13:31 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would like to discuss the support policy for Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It would be interesting to know (or decide) where Mageia is heading, given our limited resources : +</I> +can you first explain what are our ressources so you can explain how +limited you think they are ? + +><i> 1) focus on stability and security : few very well equally supported packages. Apparently, this is +</I>><i> where we're going for now. May be wise as a start, but I hope this is not our final destination, +</I>><i> because it means either very limited choice, or progressive diminution of quality of support if the +</I>><i> number of packages increases faster than the dedicated resources. +</I> +If we let people upload lots of packages without taking care of them, +yes, this will result in a decrease of quality. + +And if we do not increase ressources, this is what will happen. But I +said in lots of mail that increasing ressources must be our priority. + +And so basically, the question can be summarized as "do people prefer +packages that work or lots of packages" ? + +Quality or quantity ? +Yes, it is a black and white choice, but whatever the way you present, +you will ultimately have to do this choice at some moment. + +Choosing one doesn't mean that we should not have the other, obviously, +but when there is a choice to make, you can't avoid it. + +So let's compare what would they bring : + +Quality focus would bring : +- more confidence for admins to use the distribution +- more confidence for people that rely on it for various reasons +- less unhappy users on forums ( or at least, not unhappy because the +distribution is doing something bad ) + +Quantity focus would bring : +- arguments to convince people to use the distro "we have lots of rpm, +come here" ( as expressed in the previous thread ) +- likely more users ( because this would fullfill more needs ) + +In my opinion, focusing on quality will likely attract more technical +contributors. People that value something that work, that are willing to +devote time in bug reports, sending patchs because they know we also +focus on quality. People that are skilled enough to become packagers, QA +team member, or to give useful advice on forums, etc. + +And I think bringing contributors to fuel the development of the +distribution should be our first concern. First concern because that's +what allow to offer a good system for users, because that's what make it +sustainable in the long run, because the work of everybody will be +easier with a good system backed up by a solid technical community. + +Of course, that doesn't mean that we should not strive to have lots of +packages, and to try to provides choice to everybody. Just that this +need to be done in scalable and sustainable fashion. This usually mean +1) later and 2) slowly. + +Quality and quantity are not incompatible in the end. + +But we can't start to aim both quality and quantity at the same time. +Deciding to import all package or to review them is for example a case +where you can't focus on both at the same time. + +And so I think that to have quantity in the end, we must first choose +quality for the start to make the distribution grow on solid foundations +( and whith growth bring quantity ). + +Starting with quantity over quality doesn't increase quality at all in +the long run. This will bring more unhappy people ( see the various +complaint on Mandriva forums about "there is too many low quality +packages"), will instill a mindset that would be less than ideal for +contribution ("bug reporting is useless, people do not answer" ), and +therefore may not allow us to get enough ressources to grow and survive. + +So to me, the goal should be first to aim for quality, and then add more +packages, as I said, in a sustainable way ( ie no mass import without +being first sure that we can manage them, no rotting rpms because people +no longer care ). + +Which mean option 1. + +Yes, option 1 will likely frustrate people, because their favorite +packages might not be there. + +But we must realize that when we started this fork, we started a long +journey. And that things will be different at least for the start, and +that even when the first stable will be released, we will not have +finish our work, just really started it. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001549.html">[Mageia-dev] Support policy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001558.html">[Mageia-dev] Support policy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1557">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1557">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1557">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1557">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |