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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 27 november 2010 19:23:59 schreef Thomas Backlund:
+&gt;<i> Jerome Quelin skrev 27.11.2010 19:11:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 10/11/27 17:59 +0100, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; i agree, the less repositories the easier it'll be.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; however, core is for all the &quot;maintained&quot; packages, extra is for the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; unmaintained packages that build ok.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what is a &quot;maintained&quot; package? no maintainer, no commits since x
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; months, not buildable? what if we move to packages being maintained by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">foopkg at packages.mageia.org</A> aliases?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if maintainer db says nomaintainer@ it belong in /extra/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what are the rules to move a package from extra to core, and vice-versa?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; who can do it? will it be done automatically? will this imply a rebuild
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for the package?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If a maintainer picks up maintainership of a package in /extra/ it will
+</I>&gt;<i> be rebuilt and moved to /core/ asap.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if a package in /core/ ends up nomaintainer@, then after a &quot;grace
+</I>&gt;<i> period&quot; (1-3 months ?) it will be moved to /extra/.
+</I>&gt;<i> and sometime before RC1 or so, any momaintainer@ package in /core/ will
+</I>&gt;<i> get moved to /extra/ as for a release the /core/ should only contain
+</I>&gt;<i> maintained packages.
+</I>
+i would actually only move during cauldron freeze period (or right before it);
+in both ways; so that the releases always stay the same for this kind of
+thing.
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; what are the dependency rules? can a core package depend on an extra
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; package? or with a buildrequires?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you need to build against a package in /extra/, either pick up the
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainership of it, or try to get someone other to maintain it.
+</I>&gt;<i> then it can get into /core/
+</I>
+indeed, i would do this very strict; sometimes this might happen with some
+kind of really core package, and then we'll have no choice but find a
+maintainer for it; which is imho better.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; and, more importantly: what is the advantage? that is, what does that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bring you, except more admin?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> QA!
+</I>&gt;<i> and enduser satisfaction.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just take a look on many bugreports in MDV Bugzilla.
+</I>&gt;<i> If the report is against a nomaintainer@ package, currently Triage
+</I>&gt;<i> pretty much only can state &quot;thanks for your report, but since it has
+</I>&gt;<i> no maintainer, nothing will probably happend&quot; wich is not good answer
+</I>&gt;<i> for a person that have taken the time to report a bug.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> By having the /extra/ disabled by default, and a popup notifying the
+</I>&gt;<i> user if he enables it that the packages are &quot;unmaintained&quot; he knows
+</I>&gt;<i> he's &quot;on his own&quot;
+</I>
+i agree
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; sorry, consider me not impressed by this idea. or maybe it's just that i
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; failed to see the benefits. please enlighten me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
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