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+ <B>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz</B>
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+<PRE>Well,
+
+as in mandriva list it seems that live will be again. I was wondering for
+those we contrib in both distros. I mean for example me: i maintan squid and
+snort (for example). I wonder if there is a way so i may affect package once
+and build in both distros (because these packages for example wont change, i
+mean patches and compiled options will be the same).
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+Hope we can work together
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+LD
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+ <B>P. Christeas</B>
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+<PRE>On Sunday 07 November 2010, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote:
+&gt;<i> Well,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as in mandriva list it seems that live will be again. I was wondering for
+</I>&gt;<i> those we contrib in both distros. I mean for example me: i maintan squid
+</I>&gt;<i> and snort (for example). I wonder if there is a way so i may affect
+</I>&gt;<i> package once and build in both distros (because these packages for example
+</I>&gt;<i> wont change, i mean patches and compiled options will be the same).
+</I>Given that your squid could be built from /exactly/ the same package+tarballs
+in both Mandriva and Mageia[1], you could theoretically rsync between your 2
+local svn checkouts and then checkin.. But not the most beautiful procedure.
+
+BUT, if it had been for git-based package tracking:
+.. you would have 2 branches at the same git repo, for Mandriva, Mageia. And
+one, third, for the official upstream sources, actually. You would be able to
+hack one branch and let squid build, install etc. Then, you would /merge/ from
+one distro branch to the other, or cherry-pick, or rebase, or anything
+suitable for your changes. No need to have identical code in both of branches,
+at all.
+And then simply push to Mageia, Mandriva, Fedora, SuSe, Debian, the upstream
+squid etc, the N-th mirror of Mageia and so on...
+Moreover, if somebody else had hacked squid for Mandriva, you would be able to
+fetch his/her changes, merge the ones you wanted into Mageia, and repeat the
+&quot;push&quot; step.
+You see, having multiple masters, multiple committers is what git is unique
+at. It is where svn sucks, by contrast.
+
+&gt;<i> Hope we can work together
+</I>I hoped too, but ...
+
+
+[1] that would require carefully-written .specs, too. And the condition that
+both distros will remain compatible in dependency, rpm macros issues.
+
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> as in mandriva list it seems that live will be again. I was wondering for
+</I>&gt;<i> those we contrib in both distros. I mean for example me: i maintan squid
+</I>&gt;<i> and snort (for example). I wonder if there is a way so i may affect
+</I>&gt;<i> package once and build in both distros (because these packages for example
+</I>&gt;<i> wont change, i mean patches and compiled options will be the same).
+</I>Let's see my point ov view, once mandrake started as a fork of RH (i seem
+to recall so, at least) and i remember well that an upgrade from some old
+RHs was possible. So yes at least at the very first time i'd expect a good
+compatibility between both spec files. Macros should be compatible as well.
+I'd expect also a tool like the old rpmbuildupdate that imports new
+packages from mandriva svn, even if that is not really needed because
+of the mdvsys (or how's going to be called) import command.
+After that though if Mageia follows her way, they could become
+incompatible, so i'd expect more work for those maintainers that
+help in both.
+
+Well i heard somewhere that an agreement has been reached between Ubuntu and
+Debian to get some fixings synchronized... Who knows?
+
+&gt;<i> Hope we can work together
+</I>It depends on what you think together means :) imho together means
+that there should be no war but Mageia should be a distro itself and not
+only a package rebuild distro (maybe with some new ones) like centos is,
+otherwise it makes sense only if Mandriva does not provide a free iso.
+
+That's my opinion of course not the Mageia one.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 08:18:30AM +0200, P. Christeas wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sunday 07 November 2010, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Well,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as in mandriva list it seems that live will be again. I was wondering for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; those we contrib in both distros. I mean for example me: i maintan squid
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and snort (for example). I wonder if there is a way so i may affect
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; package once and build in both distros (because these packages for example
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wont change, i mean patches and compiled options will be the same).
+</I>&gt;<i> Given that your squid could be built from /exactly/ the same package+tarballs
+</I>&gt;<i> in both Mandriva and Mageia[1], you could theoretically rsync between your 2
+</I>&gt;<i> local svn checkouts and then checkin.. But not the most beautiful procedure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BUT, if it had been for git-based package tracking:
+</I>&gt;<i> .. you would have 2 branches at the same git repo, for Mandriva, Mageia. And
+</I>&gt;<i> one, third, for the official upstream sources, actually. You would be able to
+</I>&gt;<i> hack one branch and let squid build, install etc. Then, you would /merge/ from
+</I>&gt;<i> one distro branch to the other, or cherry-pick, or rebase, or anything
+</I>&gt;<i> suitable for your changes. No need to have identical code in both of branches,
+</I>&gt;<i> at all.
+</I>&gt;<i> And then simply push to Mageia, Mandriva, Fedora, SuSe, Debian, the upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> squid etc, the N-th mirror of Mageia and so on...
+</I>&gt;<i> Moreover, if somebody else had hacked squid for Mandriva, you would be able to
+</I>&gt;<i> fetch his/her changes, merge the ones you wanted into Mageia, and repeat the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;push&quot; step.
+</I>&gt;<i> You see, having multiple masters, multiple committers is what git is unique
+</I>&gt;<i> at. It is where svn sucks, by contrast.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>it could be possible as well with git-svn no ?
+
+I don&#8217;t think mandriva will move to git anytime soon, it was planned
+(IIRC spuk worked on it) but it was not finished.
+
+Regards,
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+<PRE>On Sunday 07 November 2010, Remy CLOUARD wrote:
+&gt;<i> it could be possible as well with git-svn no ?
+</I>Not really. The point is that no &quot;Foo&quot; distro will assume they are the
+&quot;masters&quot; of packaging, but accept that they share packages with others. Git-
+svn or cross-DVCSs tools are gateways that only work if the exchange point is
+a single one.
+
+&gt;<i> I don&#8217;t think mandriva will move to git anytime soon, it was planned
+</I>&gt;<i> (IIRC spuk worked on it) but it was not finished.
+</I>Not even Mageia. Which is sad.
+
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and P. Christeas at 07/11/10 13:39 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;&gt;<i> I don&#8217;t think mandriva will move to git anytime soon, it was planned
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (IIRC spuk worked on it) but it was not finished.
+</I>&gt;<i> Not even Mageia. Which is sad.
+</I>
+Well this is due to time constraints primarily as we need to get
+something out of the door soon and this likely means using subversion,
+but this is not totally decided yet and I, for one, will very much be
+pushing for a git migration for package management as soon as practicable.
+
+Hopefully when this migration happens Mandriva will be able to use this
+experience to also consider using git (with the number of contributors
+obviously finite, I'd hope that the benefits of a DVCS would be apparent
+as such an architecture is obviously beneficial to both Mandriva and
+Mageia).
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+<I>P. Christeas
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