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+</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why do you think Novell made the patent-protection agreement with +</I>><i> Microsoft? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The only major commercial Linux distro that is based in US is Redhat and +</I>><i> that's probably only because at the time they were founded the patents +</I>><i> issue in the US didn't exist yet (at least not like these days). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We cannot base our distro on the ridiculous patents laws of the US, first +</I>><i> of all there is no legal reason to do so, and second why should users all +</I>><i> around the world suffer US patent laws despite they don't apply to them? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Having separate plf repos IS A MAJOR OBSTACLE for new users (and for +</I>><i> packagers probably too), first of all because most have no idea that these +</I>><i> exist and then even if they find out you need to consider all those users +</I>><i> on dialup for whom downloading many megabytes of replacement plf packages +</I>><i> is a major problem. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So again, I suggest we include all the important codecs and +</I>><i> drivers/firmware that help the user to have a great out-of-the-box +</I>><i> experience with Mageia, but we add a question during installation so the +</I>><i> user can decide if he wants to install them or not. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This should keep everybody happy, I don't see why this couldn't be +</I>><i> agreeable for you. +</I>><i> +</I> +Hi Tux99: + +<A HREF="http://www.riaa.com/faq.php">http://www.riaa.com/faq.php</A> +<A HREF="http://newteevee.com/2010/05/21/mpeg-la-threatens-googles-vp8-with-patent-pool-license/">http://newteevee.com/2010/05/21/mpeg-la-threatens-googles-vp8-with-patent-pool-license/</A> +<A HREF="http://thresq.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/03/new-litigation-campaign-targets-tens-of-thousands-of-bittorrent-users.html">http://thresq.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/03/new-litigation-campaign-targets-tens-of-thousands-of-bittorrent-users.html</A> +<A HREF="http://www.sevensidedcube.net/biggest-movie-law-suite-ever-hurt-locker/">http://www.sevensidedcube.net/biggest-movie-law-suite-ever-hurt-locker/</A> + +Hmmm ... let's see now, I started collecting this list at 20.11h and it +is now 20:13 and all I did was Google "2010 movie lawsuit"; 2010 codec +lawsuit"; "2010 mp3 lawsuit" and the list is realistically longer. + +If you and others are willing to indemnify Mageia users and installers +against any lawsuits due to packaging unlicensed software/codecs/etc , +this would go a long way to giving people like myself piece of mind. + +When packaging an OS distro, we (as a community) should assume that the +product that our community devs and distro planners will not in the end +be cause of concern. + +If RedHat is able to maintain corporate headquarters in the US, then I +would suggest we examine closely their packaging repos. Mageia touts +itself as an international distro. You cannot claim international status +if you package a distro that is legal in one country and then illegal in +another. Some of the software packages have been reverse engineered to +circumvent patent laws while others are still in the grey zone and +others are not supposed to be installed due to their legal status. + +This is why, in my opinion, Mageia should try to steer itself away, as +much as possible, from grey and illegal areas and leave it to the end +user's choice whether or not to install these packages. There is nothing +wrong in also adding the Codeina/Fluendo option for those who would +rather use this service. We are trying to build a great package. Why +would the Mageia team put in peril its existence and the people's income +(through potential expensive lawsuits)? If users decide to use this +technology then they put themselves in this position and not the distro. + +We can let users know of the existence of these "questionable" pieces of +software, there is nothing wrong with this, especially when we offer +users a perfectly legal way of gaining use of codecs, libs etc. Whether +the users decide to use the "legitimate way" or the "other" way is +completely up to them and not Mageia's responsibility. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001120.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1118">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1118">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1118">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1118">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |