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+ <B>andr&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 2010-10-01 05:56, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2010/10/1 Marc Par&#233;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Such applications don't have to be installed by default. They just
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to be available on the installation DVD, with a selectable Educational
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> group of applications, much like the Internet and Server groups
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> available on existing Mandriva DVD's. It could even be called &quot;Young
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Family&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Note that in the past (at least about 10 years ago), RedHat CD's had
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> many selectable installation groups, many of which overlapped. So
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> using
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this approach, there could be groups called &quot;Educational&quot;, &quot;Young
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Family&quot;, and &quot;Home Office&quot;, for example, all containing the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> go-openoffice office suite, among other applications.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I believe that the current Mandriva DVD doesn't have any overlap
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> between
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installation groups.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Andr&#233; (andre999)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I like this approach.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Same here. When I used SuSE Linux 4.4.1 they had the same approach. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> even did several installations, each with a different set of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> applications, using the same /home. A good way to find out what you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> really want/need.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc, what you wrote about kids being the future is common knowledge,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wonder that so many companies do not recognize that. Microsoft does,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> they are sponsoring school computer networks and internet access, thus
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> creating their future client base.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Suse Linux really lost momentum when Novell didn't/has not recognized
+</I>&gt;<i> that its netware application days are at an end. If they pushed for a
+</I>&gt;<i> Suse educational netware application/distro, most school boards using
+</I>&gt;<i> the Novel netware apps would migrate this way. Fewer disruptions to
+</I>&gt;<i> their systems. School boards plan 5-10 years in advance for changes
+</I>&gt;<i> and it is extremely difficult for them to change in the middle of
+</I>&gt;<i> planned migration. There is a lot of money involved in this. Most
+</I>&gt;<i> board will pay Microsoft approx. $30-50/seat for use of MSWord -- so
+</I>&gt;<i> for example our board has over 10,000 computers. That is a huge cost
+</I>&gt;<i> just for the use of a Wordprocessor. I don't know the cost of the
+</I>&gt;<i> Novell install/contract but it would most likely approach this amount.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If Mageia had educational partners on-board it would be a huge initial
+</I>&gt;<i> plus to the distro. School boards are, in a traditional sense,
+</I>&gt;<i> expected to spend money and not save/make money. We could, for
+</I>&gt;<i> example, offer to tailor certain aspects of the distro for our
+</I>&gt;<i> education partners. Note that the focus on educational institutions is
+</I>&gt;<i> for foster use of knowledge, so they would most likely be interested
+</I>&gt;<i> in areas of a distro that focussed on kids/adult learning needs. If
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia did this well, then this could then lead to more educational
+</I>&gt;<i> partners coming on board. We would only need 2-5 educational partners
+</I>&gt;<i> to kick-start this approach. I would suggest to try for 1 educational
+</I>&gt;<i> partner per continent. It would then mushroom from there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately, not having a Mageia server service may hurt us. But
+</I>&gt;<i> there is nothing to stop us from partnering or tooling up our
+</I>&gt;<i> community distro to work well with a server (in this case I would go
+</I>&gt;<i> for RedHat servers).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no doubt that the next major expenses in the very near future
+</I>&gt;<i> for school boards is the change in netware applications. And they are
+</I>&gt;<i> still very confused. What they do know is that it will most likely be
+</I>&gt;<i> a linux solution. That is pretty well accepted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>Targeting the school boards makes a lot of sense.
+Note that Openoffice targeted various gov't organisations in France,
+some of which ended up migrating to Mandriva as well. Maybe that could
+work with school boards as well. I'm tempted to try something like that
+with mine, in banlieue of Montr&#233;al.
+Just out of curiosity, what is your school board ?
+
+For the server, if Mandriva management were a little more reasonable, it
+would be good to partner with them. (I'd like to see something like
+RedHat/Fedora.)
+In any case, you can't go wrong with RedHat.
+
+Andr&#233; (andre999)
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