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Surveys are a nuisance anyway. +</I>><i> > 1. A large part of survey participants do not tell the truth. +</I>><i> > 2. A large part of users do not participate so you will not get any +</I>><i> > real information anyway. +</I>><i> > 3. If something is wrong with the project, the distribution, user +</I>><i> > satisfaction or whatever you will know it by user postings in the +</I>><i> > forums earlier than by surveys. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So, at the end of the day, +</I>><i> > What do you get by surveys to take away? +</I>><i> > More work to implement and to read them, that's all. +</I>><i> I mean what wobo has written. Besides, forum posts are more effective +</I>><i> way to track users opinions about distro and applications. +</I> +Well, this depend on the question. + +A survey could simply give data about "do you use it in professional +environment" or not, and therefor see where people use the distribution, +and where they don't use and try to do some effort to fix problem in the +area where they don't use. This could also help to decide on the type of +features that must be prioritized. +As I said, that's (imho) also listening to community to know this. + +This can also help to get information about country, ie, if we see there +is almost no user in some country, is there a reason, should we try to +help the community there ? + + +><i> I always +</I>><i> hated this survey thing on Mandriva. Also it feels something like a +</I>><i> registration to a propierty application or validate a windows install. +</I>><i> Many users in Mandriva Turkiye community asked me if they *must* fill +</I>><i> survey and register their e-mails. Most of them were new to GNU Linux. +</I> +For sure, if such survey is used ( and again, that's just a +possibility ), we will have to keep in mind that it must be clearer on +the survey what it the goal, and it must be clear that most people do +not see it is optional. + +I do not advocate to have it by default and forcing user, but I think +that restricting feedback to forum will miss lots of people. And the +lack of feedback was something people were complaining for at Mandriva. + +There is a balance between waiting that people come with us, and +potentially lose some without knowing why, or asking to everybody, and +basically annoy people because we asked feedback. And that's not easy to +find the right spot. + +><i> I think we should decide if we will implement a Welcome Center/Kaptan +</I>><i> to distro and if it is an informative screen or basic configuration +</I>><i> tool or both for newbies. I' m not interested in filling the blanks on +</I>><i> a survey. Also a survey would be introduced in main web site. Any +</I>><i> interested user should fill it. +</I> +Such survey on computer side could also help to get data about hardware. +For example, I think kernel developers would love to have a list of +people who are registered testers, with their hardware, to contact them +to say "here is a bug, but I do not have the hardware, I think this rpm +can fix it, can you give me feedback". + +This would solve the future problem of hardware QA, because while +Mandriva had a labs with lots of stuff, we don't. + +But this requires that people register, ie give their email and their +hardware data. And I think it will be more maybe more effective to ask +at install time than to wait for people to register by themselves each +computer. But of course, this can be seen as too intrusive so great care +must be taken. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000462.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000463.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#466">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#466">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#466">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#466">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |