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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/1aeed4eb/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/1aeed4eb/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..45bb075b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/1aeed4eb/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +However, important for visitors of the wiki and artwork interested<br> +people, is to have a contact. That means, a link to the list, the IRC<br> +channel, and the representatives.<br></blockquote><div><br>That we already have, and in the new wiki as well.<br>What we're missing is the artwork guidelines, and what else from the old wiki that needs to be migrated. On that I am not sure. It appears as if the old wiki has been used as a sort of notepad to write down half-formed thoughts and ideas, as well as a sort of TODO list of projects.<br> +It is (to my mind) disorderly and pointless. Most people visiting the Artwork page on the wiki don't need to see that. There might be room for another page where we list current projects, but we would have to keep that one updated. And for that to happen I would need to know which of those tasks on the current wiki are still relevant, which need to updated and which can be assigned to cybernetic oblivion.<br> + </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +That brings to my mind. We should vote for a deputy in the next weeks.<br> +Any volunteers for this job? Max maybe?<br></blockquote><div><br>What would a deputy do? How much time is required?<br>(Please do not take that to mean that I have accepted said nomination) <br><br>Max<br> +</div><br></div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/1aeed4eb/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/1aeed4eb/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..45bb075b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/1aeed4eb/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +However, important for visitors of the wiki and artwork interested<br> +people, is to have a contact. That means, a link to the list, the IRC<br> +channel, and the representatives.<br></blockquote><div><br>That we already have, and in the new wiki as well.<br>What we're missing is the artwork guidelines, and what else from the old wiki that needs to be migrated. On that I am not sure. It appears as if the old wiki has been used as a sort of notepad to write down half-formed thoughts and ideas, as well as a sort of TODO list of projects.<br> +It is (to my mind) disorderly and pointless. Most people visiting the Artwork page on the wiki don't need to see that. There might be room for another page where we list current projects, but we would have to keep that one updated. And for that to happen I would need to know which of those tasks on the current wiki are still relevant, which need to updated and which can be assigned to cybernetic oblivion.<br> + </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +That brings to my mind. We should vote for a deputy in the next weeks.<br> +Any volunteers for this job? Max maybe?<br></blockquote><div><br>What would a deputy do? How much time is required?<br>(Please do not take that to mean that I have accepted said nomination) <br><br>Max<br> +</div><br></div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/7a55791b/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/7a55791b/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..41d1e22b6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/7a55791b/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten van Lil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"> +On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny <<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a><br></div><div class="im"> +<mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br> +<br> + On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a><br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"> + <mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a>>> wrote:<br> + > The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team<br> + members?<br> + > What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?<br> +<br> + Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending. I know it<br> + may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important to know<br> + who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as electing<br> + the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious issues if a<br> + vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a list of who<br> + is a peer is important.<br> +<br> + It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write<br> + accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging behind), so<br> + that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a<br> + user/group web app in the works), etc.<br> +<br> + > If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should<br> + be those<br> + > who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,<br> + > because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good<br> + ideas or<br> + > their opinions.<br> +<br> + Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax (for the<br> + original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be in such a<br> + list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact changelog of it,<br> + we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).<br> +<br> + > Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more<br> + fair,<br> + > but that would be round about 20 members.<br> +<br> + As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by other<br> + peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be bootstrapped<br> + by the leader.<br> +<br> +<br> +Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.<br> +</div></div></blockquote> +<br> +If you ask me that politely :)<br> +<br> +On the quick, some proposals:<br> +<br> +tumbeliina<br> +dimosthenis<br> +alexn83<br> +Oliver Faurax<br> +rda<br> +ennael<br> +dmorgen<br> +trish<br> +Oliver Burger<br> +Max<br> +Donald Steward<br> +Zlatko<br> +dtsiamasiotis<br> +mikala<br> +dams<br> +TeaAge<br> +<br> +Regards,<br><font color="#888888"> +Thorsten</font><br><div><div class="h5"></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Thank you :)<br>Now, I still think of myself as the new guy, and this might be a good judge of who is active and who isn't: names I don't recognize. If I don't recognize the name, that means they haven't been active since early June.<br> +And those are:<br>Zlatko<br>dtsiamasiotis<br>dimosthenis<br><br>Next, if I am not mistaken, rda and Oliver Burger are primarily not in the artwork team, they just do a little bit of everything :P So, do we put them in as well? And what about ennael? She REALLY does everything, but does she need to be listed as part of each and every team?<br> +And what about AlexN83? If I am not mistaken nobody has been able to make contact with him since before Mga1...<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +<div><div class="h5"> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-artwork mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/<u></u>mailman/listinfo/mageia-<u></u>artwork</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/7a55791b/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/7a55791b/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..41d1e22b6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/7a55791b/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten van Lil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"> +On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny <<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a><br></div><div class="im"> +<mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br> +<br> + On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a><br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"> + <mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a>>> wrote:<br> + > The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team<br> + members?<br> + > What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?<br> +<br> + Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending. I know it<br> + may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important to know<br> + who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as electing<br> + the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious issues if a<br> + vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a list of who<br> + is a peer is important.<br> +<br> + It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write<br> + accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging behind), so<br> + that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a<br> + user/group web app in the works), etc.<br> +<br> + > If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should<br> + be those<br> + > who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,<br> + > because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good<br> + ideas or<br> + > their opinions.<br> +<br> + Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax (for the<br> + original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be in such a<br> + list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact changelog of it,<br> + we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).<br> +<br> + > Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more<br> + fair,<br> + > but that would be round about 20 members.<br> +<br> + As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by other<br> + peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be bootstrapped<br> + by the leader.<br> +<br> +<br> +Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.<br> +</div></div></blockquote> +<br> +If you ask me that politely :)<br> +<br> +On the quick, some proposals:<br> +<br> +tumbeliina<br> +dimosthenis<br> +alexn83<br> +Oliver Faurax<br> +rda<br> +ennael<br> +dmorgen<br> +trish<br> +Oliver Burger<br> +Max<br> +Donald Steward<br> +Zlatko<br> +dtsiamasiotis<br> +mikala<br> +dams<br> +TeaAge<br> +<br> +Regards,<br><font color="#888888"> +Thorsten</font><br><div><div class="h5"></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Thank you :)<br>Now, I still think of myself as the new guy, and this might be a good judge of who is active and who isn't: names I don't recognize. If I don't recognize the name, that means they haven't been active since early June.<br> +And those are:<br>Zlatko<br>dtsiamasiotis<br>dimosthenis<br><br>Next, if I am not mistaken, rda and Oliver Burger are primarily not in the artwork team, they just do a little bit of everything :P So, do we put them in as well? And what about ennael? She REALLY does everything, but does she need to be listed as part of each and every team?<br> +And what about AlexN83? If I am not mistaken nobody has been able to make contact with him since before Mga1...<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +<div><div class="h5"> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-artwork mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/<u></u>mailman/listinfo/mageia-<u></u>artwork</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/b417cbdc/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/b417cbdc/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c5499cd8d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/b417cbdc/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,136 @@ +<div dir="ltr">Alright.<br>To be honest, I wasn't sure about dtsiamasiotis, the name did sound familiar, just not familiar enough.<br>So, barring any objections, I will create a page in the new wiki with a table, and that whole list of people (except for Dimosthenis).<br> +The columns will be: IRC nick, forum nick, email, tasks/contributions. For anybody whom I don't have any information in any cell I will leave blank, and that can be filled in later. The table will be sorted alphabetically by IRC nick.<br> +Aside from that, Thorsten's contact information (his IRC nick) will be available directly from the main artwork page.<br>For starters, I will only post IRC nicks and the tasks/contributions that I know of, and anybody who wants more information about them should let me know, either on-list or in a private email.<br> +<br>Now, what about the guidelines?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Thorsten van Lil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Am 09.11.2011 15:44, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"> +On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten van Lil <<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a><br></div><div class="im"> +<mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a>>> wrote:<br> +<br> + Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:<br> +<br> + On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny<br> + <<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div class="im"> + <mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br> +<br> + On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a><br> + <mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a>><br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"> + <mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a>>>> wrote:<br> + > The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team<br> + members?<br> + > What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?<br> +<br> + Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending.<br> + I know it<br> + may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important<br> + to know<br> + who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as<br> + electing<br> + the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious<br> + issues if a<br> + vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a<br> + list of who<br> + is a peer is important.<br> +<br> + It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write<br> + accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging<br> + behind), so<br> + that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a<br> + user/group web app in the works), etc.<br> +<br> + > If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should<br> + be those<br> + > who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,<br> + > because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good<br> + ideas or<br> + > their opinions.<br> +<br> + Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax<br> + (for the<br> + original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be<br> + in such a<br> + list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact<br> + changelog of it,<br> + we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).<br> +<br> + > Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more<br> + fair,<br> + > but that would be round about 20 members.<br> +<br> + As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by<br> + other<br> + peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be<br> + bootstrapped<br> + by the leader.<br> +<br> +<br> + Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.<br> +<br> +<br> + If you ask me that politely :)<br> +<br> + On the quick, some proposals:<br> +<br> + tumbeliina<br> + dimosthenis<br> + alexn83<br> + Oliver Faurax<br> + rda<br> + ennael<br> + dmorgen<br> + trish<br> + Oliver Burger<br> + Max<br> + Donald Steward<br> + Zlatko<br> + dtsiamasiotis<br> + mikala<br> + dams<br> + TeaAge<br> +<br> + Regards,<br> + Thorsten<br> +<br> +<br> +Thank you :)<br> +Now, I still think of myself as the new guy, and this might be a good<br> +judge of who is active and who isn't: names I don't recognize. If I<br> +don't recognize the name, that means they haven't been active since<br> +early June.<br> +And those are:<br> +Zlatko<br> +dtsiamasiotis<br> +dimosthenis<br> +</div></div></blockquote> +<br> +Zlatko is a designer who responded on the call for designer on the blog. He told me he is reading the list. However he already did some work for mageia. Have a look at bug #261<br> +<a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_<u></u>bug.cgi?id=261</a><br> +<br> +dtsiamasiotis has attend to many meating. Also some you were attending too (<a href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html" target="_blank">http://meetbot.mageia.org/<u></u>mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-<u></u>artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html</a>)<u></u>. He also was responsible for new icons for harddrake2.<br> + +<br> +Dimosthenis .... I'm not sure, to be honest. I put him to the list, but dtsiamasiotis was meant. So we can discard him I guess.<div class="im"><br> +<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +<br> +Next, if I am not mistaken, rda and Oliver Burger are primarily not in<br> +the artwork team, they just do a little bit of everything :P So, do we<br> +put them in as well? And what about ennael? She REALLY does everything,<br> +but does she need to be listed as part of each and every team?<br> +And what about AlexN83? If I am not mistaken nobody has been able to<br> +make contact with him since before Mga1...<br> +<br> +</blockquote> +<br></div> +Well, who do want on the list? Everyone who played a part for the artwork team and is on the list. As rda pointed, those have a vote for representatives etc.<br> +rda lead all meetings before I did and founded the artwork group. Oliver did a lot for the wiki especially in question of design and is actively part of a lot discussions around artwork.<br> +AlexN83 could never be contact since mga1, as you said. But as we are still using his work and he is always welcome to came back, I would put him on the list.<br> +Ennael ... a round the release of Mga1 she cared a lot of artwork and made sure we had a nice KDE menu icon (that has not come from the artwork team).<br><font color="#888888"> +<br> +Thorsten</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> +<br> +______________________________<u></u>_________________<br> +Mageia-artwork mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/<u></u>mailman/listinfo/mageia-<u></u>artwork</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/b417cbdc/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/b417cbdc/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c5499cd8d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/b417cbdc/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,136 @@ +<div dir="ltr">Alright.<br>To be honest, I wasn't sure about dtsiamasiotis, the name did sound familiar, just not familiar enough.<br>So, barring any objections, I will create a page in the new wiki with a table, and that whole list of people (except for Dimosthenis).<br> +The columns will be: IRC nick, forum nick, email, tasks/contributions. For anybody whom I don't have any information in any cell I will leave blank, and that can be filled in later. The table will be sorted alphabetically by IRC nick.<br> +Aside from that, Thorsten's contact information (his IRC nick) will be available directly from the main artwork page.<br>For starters, I will only post IRC nicks and the tasks/contributions that I know of, and anybody who wants more information about them should let me know, either on-list or in a private email.<br> +<br>Now, what about the guidelines?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Thorsten van Lil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Am 09.11.2011 15:44, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"> +On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten van Lil <<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a><br></div><div class="im"> +<mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a>>> wrote:<br> +<br> + Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:<br> +<br> + On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny<br> + <<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div class="im"> + <mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br> +<br> + On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a><br> + <mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a>><br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"> + <mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de" target="_blank">tvl83@gmx.de</a>>>> wrote:<br> + > The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team<br> + members?<br> + > What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?<br> +<br> + Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending.<br> + I know it<br> + may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important<br> + to know<br> + who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as<br> + electing<br> + the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious<br> + issues if a<br> + vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a<br> + list of who<br> + is a peer is important.<br> +<br> + It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write<br> + accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging<br> + behind), so<br> + that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a<br> + user/group web app in the works), etc.<br> +<br> + > If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should<br> + be those<br> + > who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,<br> + > because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good<br> + ideas or<br> + > their opinions.<br> +<br> + Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax<br> + (for the<br> + original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be<br> + in such a<br> + list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact<br> + changelog of it,<br> + we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).<br> +<br> + > Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more<br> + fair,<br> + > but that would be round about 20 members.<br> +<br> + As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by<br> + other<br> + peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be<br> + bootstrapped<br> + by the leader.<br> +<br> +<br> + Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.<br> +<br> +<br> + If you ask me that politely :)<br> +<br> + On the quick, some proposals:<br> +<br> + tumbeliina<br> + dimosthenis<br> + alexn83<br> + Oliver Faurax<br> + rda<br> + ennael<br> + dmorgen<br> + trish<br> + Oliver Burger<br> + Max<br> + Donald Steward<br> + Zlatko<br> + dtsiamasiotis<br> + mikala<br> + dams<br> + TeaAge<br> +<br> + Regards,<br> + Thorsten<br> +<br> +<br> +Thank you :)<br> +Now, I still think of myself as the new guy, and this might be a good<br> +judge of who is active and who isn't: names I don't recognize. If I<br> +don't recognize the name, that means they haven't been active since<br> +early June.<br> +And those are:<br> +Zlatko<br> +dtsiamasiotis<br> +dimosthenis<br> +</div></div></blockquote> +<br> +Zlatko is a designer who responded on the call for designer on the blog. He told me he is reading the list. However he already did some work for mageia. Have a look at bug #261<br> +<a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_<u></u>bug.cgi?id=261</a><br> +<br> +dtsiamasiotis has attend to many meating. Also some you were attending too (<a href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html" target="_blank">http://meetbot.mageia.org/<u></u>mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-<u></u>artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html</a>)<u></u>. He also was responsible for new icons for harddrake2.<br> + +<br> +Dimosthenis .... I'm not sure, to be honest. I put him to the list, but dtsiamasiotis was meant. So we can discard him I guess.<div class="im"><br> +<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +<br> +Next, if I am not mistaken, rda and Oliver Burger are primarily not in<br> +the artwork team, they just do a little bit of everything :P So, do we<br> +put them in as well? And what about ennael? She REALLY does everything,<br> +but does she need to be listed as part of each and every team?<br> +And what about AlexN83? If I am not mistaken nobody has been able to<br> +make contact with him since before Mga1...<br> +<br> +</blockquote> +<br></div> +Well, who do want on the list? Everyone who played a part for the artwork team and is on the list. As rda pointed, those have a vote for representatives etc.<br> +rda lead all meetings before I did and founded the artwork group. Oliver did a lot for the wiki especially in question of design and is actively part of a lot discussions around artwork.<br> +AlexN83 could never be contact since mga1, as you said. But as we are still using his work and he is always welcome to came back, I would put him on the list.<br> +Ennael ... a round the release of Mga1 she cared a lot of artwork and made sure we had a nice KDE menu icon (that has not come from the artwork team).<br><font color="#888888"> +<br> +Thorsten</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> +<br> +______________________________<u></u>_________________<br> +Mageia-artwork mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/<u></u>mailman/listinfo/mageia-<u></u>artwork</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/b837b496/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/b837b496/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..813959d5a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/b837b496/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<div dir="ltr">Trying to maintain two topics in one thread....<br>I copied the old artwork guidelines (this page: <a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</a>) to an archive in the new wiki. So nothing will be irrevocably lost.<br> +But I still need some definitive answers on which guidelines will go in the new wiki.<br>Additionally, in the old wiki we have this: <a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_visual_identity_guidelines">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_visual_identity_guidelines</a><br> +What are we going to do about that? The page looks like a placeholder, no point in archiving it.<br>All the guidelines and stuff happened before I joined the team, so I really don't know how this works.<br>Maybe I'll make a section of the new guidelines page for the visual identity, maybe I'll create a whole new page for it.<br> +But the question is, what goes in there?<br>And don't forget to add your input on the members list. Mainly: who (to add) and how much (information to give).<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Donald Stewart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On 9 November 2011 14:24, Thorsten van Lil <<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br> + +> Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:<br> +>><br> +>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny <<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a><br> +>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br> +>><br> +>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a><br> +>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a>>> wrote:<br> +>> > The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team<br> +>> members?<br> +>> > What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?<br> +>><br> +>> Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending. I know it<br> +>> may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important to know<br> +>> who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as electing<br> +>> the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious issues if a<br> +>> vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a list of who<br> +>> is a peer is important.<br> +>><br> +>> It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write<br> +>> accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging behind), so<br> +>> that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a<br> +>> user/group web app in the works), etc.<br> +>><br> +>> > If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should<br> +>> be those<br> +>> > who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,<br> +>> > because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good<br> +>> ideas or<br> +>> > their opinions.<br> +>><br> +>> Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax (for the<br> +>> original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be in such a<br> +>> list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact changelog of it,<br> +>> we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).<br> +>><br> +>> > Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more<br> +>> fair,<br> +>> > but that would be round about 20 members.<br> +>><br> +>> As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by other<br> +>> peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be bootstrapped<br> +>> by the leader.<br> +>><br> +>><br> +>> Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.<br> +><br> +> If you ask me that politely :)<br> +><br> +> On the quick, some proposals:<br> +><br> +> tumbeliina<br> +> dimosthenis<br> +> alexn83<br> +> Oliver Faurax<br> +> rda<br> +> ennael<br> +> dmorgen<br> +> trish<br> +> Oliver Burger<br> +> Max<br> +> Donald Steward<br> +> Zlatko<br> +> dtsiamasiotis<br> +> mikala<br> +> dams<br> +> TeaAge<br> +><br> +> Regards,<br> +> Thorsten<br> +> _______________________________________________<br> +> Mageia-artwork mailing list<br> +> <a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br> +> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br> +><br> +<br> +</div></div>That list looks good to me, although can I have my T back please?<br> +<div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-artwork mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/b837b496/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/b837b496/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..813959d5a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/b837b496/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<div dir="ltr">Trying to maintain two topics in one thread....<br>I copied the old artwork guidelines (this page: <a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</a>) to an archive in the new wiki. So nothing will be irrevocably lost.<br> +But I still need some definitive answers on which guidelines will go in the new wiki.<br>Additionally, in the old wiki we have this: <a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_visual_identity_guidelines">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_visual_identity_guidelines</a><br> +What are we going to do about that? The page looks like a placeholder, no point in archiving it.<br>All the guidelines and stuff happened before I joined the team, so I really don't know how this works.<br>Maybe I'll make a section of the new guidelines page for the visual identity, maybe I'll create a whole new page for it.<br> +But the question is, what goes in there?<br>And don't forget to add your input on the members list. Mainly: who (to add) and how much (information to give).<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Donald Stewart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On 9 November 2011 14:24, Thorsten van Lil <<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br> + +> Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:<br> +>><br> +>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny <<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a><br> +>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br> +>><br> +>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a><br> +>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a>>> wrote:<br> +>> > The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team<br> +>> members?<br> +>> > What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?<br> +>><br> +>> Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending. I know it<br> +>> may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important to know<br> +>> who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as electing<br> +>> the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious issues if a<br> +>> vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a list of who<br> +>> is a peer is important.<br> +>><br> +>> It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write<br> +>> accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging behind), so<br> +>> that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a<br> +>> user/group web app in the works), etc.<br> +>><br> +>> > If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should<br> +>> be those<br> +>> > who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,<br> +>> > because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good<br> +>> ideas or<br> +>> > their opinions.<br> +>><br> +>> Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax (for the<br> +>> original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be in such a<br> +>> list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact changelog of it,<br> +>> we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).<br> +>><br> +>> > Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more<br> +>> fair,<br> +>> > but that would be round about 20 members.<br> +>><br> +>> As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by other<br> +>> peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be bootstrapped<br> +>> by the leader.<br> +>><br> +>><br> +>> Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.<br> +><br> +> If you ask me that politely :)<br> +><br> +> On the quick, some proposals:<br> +><br> +> tumbeliina<br> +> dimosthenis<br> +> alexn83<br> +> Oliver Faurax<br> +> rda<br> +> ennael<br> +> dmorgen<br> +> trish<br> +> Oliver Burger<br> +> Max<br> +> Donald Steward<br> +> Zlatko<br> +> dtsiamasiotis<br> +> mikala<br> +> dams<br> +> TeaAge<br> +><br> +> Regards,<br> +> Thorsten<br> +> _______________________________________________<br> +> Mageia-artwork mailing list<br> +> <a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br> +> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br> +><br> +<br> +</div></div>That list looks good to me, although can I have my T back please?<br> +<div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-artwork mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/d617fa30/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/d617fa30/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..19b0683dd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/d617fa30/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Oliver Burger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +People, please...<br> +<br> +I don't need a discussion in artwork about design guidlines, I just need to<br> +know what to do with those pages...<br> +Import them, trash them, paint them pink,...<font color="#888888"><br></font></blockquote><div><br>You should paint them pink and erect a simple <a href="http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Somebody_Else%27s_Problem_field">SEP</a> field around them. This will make them effectively disappear.<br> + +But seriously, you can delete <a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_visual_identity_guidelines">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_visual_identity_guidelines</a> as it will not be imported.<br> + +The old guidelines page has been imported to an archive in the new wiki so you can delete that page from the old wiki as well.<br>A new guidelines page has been created and linked to the main artwork page, so you can mark that off on the TODO list.<br> +Currently that page is a placeholder, but we won't resolve what needs to be put there any time soon, so...<br><br>Max<br></div></div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/d617fa30/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/d617fa30/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..19b0683dd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/d617fa30/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Oliver Burger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +People, please...<br> +<br> +I don't need a discussion in artwork about design guidlines, I just need to<br> +know what to do with those pages...<br> +Import them, trash them, paint them pink,...<font color="#888888"><br></font></blockquote><div><br>You should paint them pink and erect a simple <a href="http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Somebody_Else%27s_Problem_field">SEP</a> field around them. This will make them effectively disappear.<br> + +But seriously, you can delete <a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_visual_identity_guidelines">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_visual_identity_guidelines</a> as it will not be imported.<br> + +The old guidelines page has been imported to an archive in the new wiki so you can delete that page from the old wiki as well.<br>A new guidelines page has been created and linked to the main artwork page, so you can mark that off on the TODO list.<br> +Currently that page is a placeholder, but we won't resolve what needs to be put there any time soon, so...<br><br>Max<br></div></div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/f17b3697/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/f17b3697/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dc390d22e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/f17b3697/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<div class="im">On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br> +> The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team members?<br> +> What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?<br> +<br> +</div>Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending. I know it<br> +may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important to know<br> +who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as electing<br> +the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious issues if a<br> +vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a list of who<br> +is a peer is important.<br> +<br> +It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write<br> +accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging behind), so<br> +that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a<br> +user/group web app in the works), etc.<br> +<div class="im"><br> +> If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should be those<br> +> who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,<br> +> because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good ideas or<br> +> their opinions.<br> +<br> +</div>Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax (for the<br> +original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be in such a<br> +list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact changelog of it,<br> +we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).<br> +<div class="im"><br> +> Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more fair,<br> +> but that would be round about 20 members.<br> +<br> +</div>As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by other<br> +peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be bootstrapped<br> +by the leader.<br></blockquote><div><br>Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> + +Cheers,<br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +Romain<br> +</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-artwork mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/f17b3697/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/f17b3697/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dc390d22e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20111109/f17b3697/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<div class="im">On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <<a href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br> +> The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team members?<br> +> What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?<br> +<br> +</div>Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending. I know it<br> +may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important to know<br> +who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as electing<br> +the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious issues if a<br> +vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a list of who<br> +is a peer is important.<br> +<br> +It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write<br> +accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging behind), so<br> +that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a<br> +user/group web app in the works), etc.<br> +<div class="im"><br> +> If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should be those<br> +> who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,<br> +> because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good ideas or<br> +> their opinions.<br> +<br> +</div>Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax (for the<br> +original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be in such a<br> +list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact changelog of it,<br> +we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).<br> +<div class="im"><br> +> Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more fair,<br> +> but that would be round about 20 members.<br> +<br> +</div>As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by other<br> +peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be bootstrapped<br> +by the leader.<br></blockquote><div><br>Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> + +Cheers,<br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +Romain<br> +</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-artwork mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> |