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redhat 6.1 (fr?), install 766MB, df 900MB, 35min (asked for all groups except "everything")

upgrade to redhat 6.2, sum 757MB, df 936MB, 20min

mandrake 7.1, install 755MB, df 1091MB, 17min (asked install size 910MB), 515 packages

upgrade to cooker, sum 1000MB, df 1404MB, 35min


redhat 7.0b, install 815MB, df 960MB, 18min
redhat 7.0, install 995MB, df MB, 26min

7.2b, 3.3GB 2h26


7.2b: (lang fr)
compssLevel  df  rpm  	time  fs          df/time
	               	     
100          64   59  	0:59  ext2 500M   1.08
 90         132  127  	1:50  ext2 500M   1.20
 80         226  218  	3:26  ext2 500M	  1.10
 70         449  387  	5:52  ext2 1G	  1.28
 60         614  541  	8:36  ext2 1G	  1.19
 50        1113  943   17:40  ext2 2G	  1.05
 40        1193 1013   20:39  ext2 2G	  0.96
 30        1262 1072   22:28  ext2 2G	  0.94
 20        1445 1219   27:34  ext2 2G	  0.87
 10        1649 1394   36:58  ext2 2G	  0.74
  0        1943 1638   48:02  ext2 2G	  0.67
-10        2957 2519  101:49  ext2 4G 	  0.48

7.2b: (lang all)
compssLevel  df  rpm  	time  fs          df/time

100          70   59  	1:04  ext2 500M   1.09
 90         289  281  	4:20  ext2 500M	  1.11
 80         373  361    5:41  ext2 500M	  1.09
 70         890  794   13:28  ext2 1G	  1.10


mem used 7.2cooker
gtk:   runinstall2 13608(data 9572) + FBDev 2984(data 1544)
newt:  runinstall2  9516(data 7528)
stdio: runinstall2  9160(data 7372)

8.0rc1: (lang fr)

rpmsrate

4   ()        175   139    3:25   reiserfs 2G  0.85
4   all       831   786   18:08   reiserfs 2G  0.76

8.1b

5   ()         77    66    1:24   ext2 300M

8.1pre_rc1     rpm   df                       time/rpm  rpm/df

6   ()         82    66    1:26   ext2 500M   1.05      1.24
5   ()         89    71    1:38   ext2 500M   1.10	1.25
3   ()         94    77    1:46   ext2 500M   1.13	1.22
5   X         145   127    2:09   ext2 500M   0.89	1.14
3   X         231   217    3:26   ext2 500M   0.89	1.06
4   kde       393   316    4:31   ext2 2G     0.69	1.24
4   kde       393   316    4:41   ext2 2G     0.72	1.24
4   kde       393   316    4:43   ext2 4G     0.72	1.24
5   all       367   337    5:02   ext2 500M   0.82	1.09
4   kde+gnome 454   370    5:50   ext2 4G     0.77	1.23
4   kde+gnome 454   370    6:10   ext2 4G     0.81	1.23
4   kde+gnome 454   370    6:24   ext2 4G     0.85	1.23
5   all       489   406    5:55   ext2 4G     0.73	1.20
5   all       490   406    5:18   ext2 1G     0.65	1.21
4   kd+gn+dsk 594   494    7:31   ext2 4G     0.76	1.20
4   prev+dev  827   696   10:27   ext2 4G     0.76	1.19
4   all      1100   988   19:34   ext2 1G     1.07	1.11
3   all      1640  1331   31:33   ext2 2G     1.15	1.23
3   all      1740  1434   39:38   ext2 4G     1.37	1.21
2   all      2252  1843   54:40   ext2 4G     1.46	1.22
-1  all      2490  2048   61:02   ext2 4G     1.47      1.22

# perl -alpe '$F[4] =~ /(.*):(.*)/; $r = ($1 * 60 + $2) / $F[2]; s|\S+(\s+\S+)\s*$|sprintf("%.2f", $r) . "$1"|e;'
# perl -ape '$r = $F[2] / $F[3]; s|\S+\s*$|sprintf "%.2f\n", $r|e;'

9.0beta1

5   ()         89    71    1:35   ext2 500M
3   X         240   231    3:41   ext2 500M
5   all       306   293    3:36   ext2 500M
4   all       808   731    6:48   ext2 1G
4   all      1433  1331   21:44   ext2 2G
4   X+kde     822   749    6:05   ext2 2G
4   X+gnome   369   319    5:58   ext2 2G
              rpm    df    time                time/rpm  rpm/df
2006beta
celeron 360Mhz, 256MB, auto_install
6   -	      106   225	    1:46  ext3 788M     1.00      0.47
5   X         365   440     4:19  ext2 3.2G     0.71      0.83
5   X         385   417     5:15  ext2 3.2G     0.82      0.92
4   X	      415   489	   05:26  ext2 3.2G     0.79      0.85
4   X	      436   511	   06:05  ext2 788M     0.84      0.85
4   X+KDE     709   829	   08:39  ext2 3.2G     0.73      0.86
4   X+KDE     709   829	   09:01  ext2 3.2G     0.76      0.86
4   X+KDE     709   934	   11:01  ext3 3.2G     0.93      0.76
4   X+KDE     709   934	   10:37  ext3 3.2G     0.90      0.76
4   X+KDE+GNO 763   888	   11:06  ext2 3.2G     0.87      0.86
4   def+GNO  1024  1126	   12:41  ext2 3.2G     0.74      0.91
4   def+GNO  1227  1130	   13:52  ext2 3.2G     0.68      1.09
4   default  1433  1536	   18:26  ext2 3.2G     0.77      0.93
4   def+GNO  1442  1633	   17:58  ext2 3.2G     0.75      0.88
2   all      2800  3200    47:56  ext2 4G       1.03      0.88


redhat 7.3:
- do not halt the box when "halt" is used
- no sysreq
- kdm has gnome entry whereas gnome is not installed
  => choosing gnome gives a flashing black screen and kdm reruns

- repartition of packages on various CDs is crap

- bootloader: handling of multiple disks is more powerful in redhat, but more
dangerous (proposed to everyone, but not proposed especially to people having
a dangerous combinaison)
- why still asking about lba32!!

* anaconda 7.3 vs 7.3.92
  - skipddc option (locks some machines) ??
    maybe because it's done at the beginning of their install?
  
  - LVM
    - lvm_dialog_gui.py
    - Physical Extent 1MB 2MB 4MB ... 16GB
      (vgcreate -s ${PhysicalExtentSize}k)
    - see lvm_sanity_checks.txt, take them
    - lvm on / (mkinitrd)
    - handle upgrade when lvm on /
    - vgcreate -An (ie --autobackup no) ??
      (also for lvcreate vgchange lvremove
    - see clampPVSize in lvm.py

  - RAID
    - Number of spares ??
    - mkraid --dangerous-no-resync  ??
  
  - progress bar in ext2 formatting
  
  - ctrl-alt-suppr during install => reboots
  
  - user names: the regexp is [a-zA-Z][^\0-\x20:,\n]*  or  [A-Za-z][A-Za-z0-9]{0,7}   (depending on wether you're in text mode or graphic mode :)
  - check the user name created is not a system one (see systemUsers)
  
  - SMB authentification
  - cloneDrive ?

  - edd dropped (was to detect lba32 capability, which was dumb)

  - reconfig type of installed removed (was something between install & upgrade)

  - ddcprobe code removed -> moved to kudzu
    changes: sigprocmask and movl added around lrmi_vm86

  - $ENV{GDK_USE_XFT} = 0

* kudzu 0.99.52 vs 0.99.55
  - blacklisting modules.pcimap e100 and bcm5700

* hwdata 0.14 vs 0.32
  - dropped XFree86 3.3.6 support

  - upgradelist: list of (old_module => new_module) for upgrades
    (a simpler way would be to drop entries in modules.conf that concern
    obsolete (and not available anymore) modules, relying on auto-detection to
    add the new one)

  - CardMonitorCombos (for laptops)

redhat 8.0:

  (legend: + pros  - cons  / notice)
  
  Install steps difference
  + firewall wizard
  + md5sum check when booting install
  - no upgrade packages installation during install
  - no services configuration (chkconfig)
  - no printer configuration
  - no autologin
  - no real small installation
  - no small packages (groff-for-man, perl-base...)
  / still propose non-MD5 or non-shadow passwords
  / post install tool (firstconfig)
  
  General install behaviour, eye-candiness
  + package selection a la Windows
  + in language selection languages displayed in native language
  + candy timezone selection
  + help uses bold/italic/big-font
  - no one CD install
  / not using fb at install
  / python + gtk2  vs  perl + gtk
  / ask many things before doing anything (esp. delayed partitioning, swap not available when selecting packages!(?))
  - more width-hard-coded dialog boxes (harder for translations)
  / use a loopback file from the CD then copied on system
  
  Partitioning
  - no diskdruid after install
  - no partitioning wizard
  - no devfs
  - no xfs (but now has reiserfs/jfs)
  - no loopback crypted fs
  - no file swap (?)
  - no supermount
  + LABELed entries in fstab
  + progress bar while formatting
  
  Bootloader
  + bootloader configuration less awkward
  - no automatic handling of bios ordering with many harddrives
  - propose to manually change bios ordering even with one harddrive
  - LBA32 checkbox
  / defaults to grub
  
  Network
  - awkward question apropos hostname when using DHCP
  - no default choice for netmask/gateway/DNS based on IP
  
  XFree
  - no wacom configuration
  - no graphic card multi-head configuration
  - no ATI tvout configuration
  - no prompt for logout after changing X config
  - VideoRam prompted for everybody
  / no XFree3
  / no Utah GLX
  / load module "fbdevhw" "record", but not "v4l"
  / always load module "glx" and "dri"
  
  Keyboard
  - many non useful keyboard entries (eg: latin0)
  - no way to choose the toggle key to choose between latin/non-latin keyboard 
  - no loadkeys done during install for console
  
  Mouse
  - no way to test mouse choice
  - mouse choices include many non-useful choices, badly sorted
    (Intellimouse must be sought in Microsoft whereas it's used by many others)
  
  Multimedia
  - no bttv configuration (including webcams)
  - missing audio modules (alsa, audigy...)

* anaconda 8.0 (rel. 4) vs 8.0.92
  - use vte instead of gnome.zvt
  - add alpha (axp) partitioning code
  - remove label "nofb" and options "devfs=nomount ramdisk_size=9216" from syslinux.cfg
  - edd (ddc probe) moved to kudzu
  - add "-Odir_index" option to ext3 tunefs 
  - screenshoting in directory /root/anaconda-screenshots/ instead of using exported display
  - assembler code change in cpuid, smp.c
  - there is some code to read the "raid superblock" (see doGetRaidSuperblock in isys/isys.c)
  - new code for choosing to upgrade or not
  - hack to remove /var/lib/rpm/__db.00[123] (with comment "make sure that the rpmdb doesn't have stale locks :/")

* anaconda 8.0.92 vs 8.0.93 (rel. 0.20030108205243)
  - drop xmode (bring up text mode in a remote xterm)
  - code available to check the ability to do a mkbootdisk 
    (check size of vmlinuz + initrd, check size of floppy)
  - drop "-Odir_index" option to ext3 tunefs 
    (with comment "add back -Odir_index when htree is safe")
  - waitForLink added to loader2/net.c using added ethtool thingy (get_ethtool_link_status, get_link_status)
  - OS390 fdasd & z/IPL changes
  - for kickstart, new option "--ignoremissing", (there were --ignoredeps and --resolvedeps)
  - /usr/kerberos/lib in LD_LIBRARY_PATH
  - these are symlinks so you cant make them mount points
    otherexcept = ['/var/mail', '/usr/bin/X11', '/usr/lib/X11', '/usr/tmp']

	    elif self.mountpoint in otherexcept:
                return _("The mount point %s cannot be used.  It must "
			 "be a symbolic link for proper system "
			 "operation.  Please select a different "
			 "mount point.") % (self.mountpoint,)
		

* hwdata 0.47 (redhat 8.0) vs 0.62 (redhat 8.1 beta1 phoebe)
  - pcitable & upgradelist
     - replace eepro100 with e100
     - switch 0x1106 0x3059 "via82cxxx_audio" to "unknown"
  - Cards
     - remove most swcursor with comment:
        # mharris - Nov 23, 2002 - Commented out the swcursor option, if it is still
        # needed, then lets disable it right in the driver completely, or possibly
        # fix it.
     - using driver "nv" for GeForce4 and Quadro4 with comment:
        # mharris - Nov 23, 2002 - enabling "nv" driver for GeForce 4 and Quadro 4 as
        # CVS XFree86 support them now in 4.2.99.2
     - special options "externDisp" and "internDisp" for NeoMagic cards
       together with CHIPSET

* kudzu 0.99.69 (redhat 8.0) vs 0.99.83 (redhat 8.1 beta1 phoebe)
  - don't read eepro100 entries from the pcitable
  - handle compressed modules
  - many changes in PS/2 mouse detection, and handle "intellips/2" mouse
  - changes in PnP serial modem detection
  - use "udf,iso9660" option for cdrom entry in fstab 
    (note that comma separated choice of filesystems *is* allowed, though not
     documented in fstab(5))