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+<PRE>Le 18/09/2010 15:40, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello Mageia \o/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Tiens, maintenant on ne dit plus &quot;Hello World&quot; mais &quot;Hello Mageia&quot; ? :)
+
+Bonjour ici ;)
+
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+ <B>Olivier M&#233;jean</B>
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+<PRE>nicolas vigier a &#233;crit
+&gt;<i> Hello Mageia \o/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Happy birthday Mageia !
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+ <B>DjeZAeL</B>
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+<PRE>Le 18/09/2010 16:11, Olivier M&#233;jean a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> nicolas vigier a &#233;crit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello Mageia \o/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Happy birthday Mageia !
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I would even say &quot;Happy Birth Mageia&quot; !
+
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+
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+&quot;Le chemin est long mais la voie est Libre&quot;
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+ <B>Benoit Audouard</B>
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+
+2010/9/18 DjeZAeL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">djezael at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Le 18/09/2010 16:11, Olivier M&#233;jean a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> nicolas vigier a &#233;crit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello Mageia \o/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Happy birthday Mageia !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would even say &quot;Happy Birth Mageia&quot; !
+</I>
+
+Magic Mageia ! in time for <A HREF="http://softwarefreedomday.org/">http://softwarefreedomday.org/</A> \o/
+
+Ben'. aka baud123
+
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+<PRE>I love the name of Mageia, and personally i am proud because it refers to
+the greek word &quot;&#924;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#943;&#945;&quot; =&gt; Magic =&gt; Magique
+
+what is the history of choosing the name ?
+
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+ <B>Filipe Saraiva</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Complete translate of Mageia website to Brasilian Portuguese">filip.saraiva at gmail.com
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+<PRE>The complete translate of Mageia website to brasilian portuguese, by
+filipesaraiva(<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">filip.saraiva at gmail.com</A>) and aracele(<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">araceletorres at gmail.com</A>).
+Link on pastebin.ca/1943622
+
+
+MAGEIA - UMA NOVA DISTRIBUI&#199;&#195;O LINUX
+
+Paris, 18 de setembro de 2010
+
+Como voc&#234; deve ter ouvido falar, o futuro do Mandriva Linux &#233; incerto.
+
+A maioria dos empregados que trabalhavam na distribui&#231;&#227;o foram demitidos
+quando a Edge-IT foi liquidada. N&#243;s n&#227;o confiamos mais nos planos da
+Mandriva SA e n&#227;o acreditamos que a empresa (ou qualquer outra empresa) seja
+um porto seguro para tal projeto.
+
+Muitas coisas aconteceram nos &#250;ltimos 12 anos. Algumas foram muito boas: a
+comunidade em torno do Mandriva Linux &#233; grande, motivada e experiente, a
+distribui&#231;&#227;o se tornou uma das mais populares e premiadas, f&#225;cil de usar e
+inovadora. Alguns outros eventos tiveram consequ&#234;ncias realmente muito
+ruins, que fizeram as pessoas ficarem n&#227;o t&#227;o confiantes quanto a
+viabilidade de sua distribui&#231;&#227;o favorita.
+
+As pessoas que trabalham nisto apenas n&#227;o querem ser dependentes da economia
+flutuante e err&#225;tica, e os inexplic&#225;veis movimentos estrat&#233;gicos de uma
+empresa.
+
+Fork do Mandriva Linux? Sim!
+
+Fazer um fork de um projeto de c&#243;digo aberto existente nunca &#233; uma decis&#227;o
+f&#225;cil de ser tomada, e fazer um fork do Mandriva Linux &#233; um trabalho imenso.
+
+Isto n&#227;o foi uma decis&#227;o impulsiva. N&#243;s todos conversamos: ex-empregados,
+contribuidores do Cooker e a comunidade de usu&#225;rios. N&#243;s coletamos opini&#245;es
+e rea&#231;&#245;es nas &#250;ltimas semanas pois precis&#225;vamos de algum tipo de acordo
+global e garantias para uma base inicial antes de seguirmos adiante.
+
+Acreditamos que um fork &#233; a melhor solu&#231;&#227;o e decidimos criar uma nova
+distribui&#231;&#227;o: Mageia.
+
+Novos fundamentos.
+
+Mageia &#233; um projeto da comunidade: ele n&#227;o vai depender do destino de uma
+empresa particular.
+Uma organiza&#231;&#227;o sem fins lucrativos ser&#225; criada nos pr&#243;ximos dias e ser&#225;
+gerida por um conselho de membros da comunidade.
+Ap&#243;s o primeiro ano, o conselho ser&#225; eleito regularmente pelos membros
+comprometidos com a comunidade.
+
+Esta organiza&#231;&#227;o ir&#225; gerenciar e coordenar a distribui&#231;&#227;o: c&#243;digo e
+hospedagem do software e distribui&#231;&#227;o, constru&#231;&#227;o do sistema, marketing,
+comunica&#231;&#227;o e promo&#231;&#227;o de eventos. Dados, fatos, roteiros, designs ser&#227;o
+compartilhados, discutidos atrav&#233;s desta organiza&#231;&#227;o.
+
+Vamos discutir e estabelecer os detalhes nos pr&#243;ximos dias.
+
+A distribui&#231;&#227;o Mageia ser&#225; o que o conselho fizer com que ela seja, com a
+ajuda e contribui&#231;&#227;o de toda comunidade.
+N&#243;s j&#225; temos ideias e planos para esta distribui&#231;&#227;o; queremos:
+
+tornar o Linux e o software livre simples de usar para todos;
+fornecer ferramentas de configura&#231;&#227;o do sistema integrado;
+manter um alto n&#237;vel de integra&#231;&#227;o entre a base do sistema, o desktop
+(KDE/GNOME) e aplica&#231;&#245;es; especialmente melhorar a integra&#231;&#227;o com softwares
+de terceiros (sendo ele livre de software propriet&#225;rio);
+focar em novas arquiteturas;
+melhorar nossa compreens&#227;o sobre usu&#225;rios de computadores e dispositivos
+eletr&#244;nicos.
+
+Voc&#234; certamente tem as suas ideias tamb&#233;m. N&#243;s teremos tempo para
+compartilh&#225;-las.
+
+Comunidade.
+
+Entendemos a comunidade Mageia como:
+
+usu&#225;rios,
+criadores (designers, programadores, empacotadores, tradutores e testadores,
+etc),
+entusiastas.
+
+Eles podem ser indiv&#237;duos, organiza&#231;&#245;es e empresas de todo o mundo.
+Existem desafios aqui, tantos pa&#237;ses, tantas l&#237;nguas, tantas culturas,
+necessidades t&#227;o diferentes. E isso &#233; &#243;timo.
+
+Vimos com a experi&#234;ncia da Assembl&#233;ia Mandriva que n&#227;o &#233; uma tarefa f&#225;cil.
+Acreditamos que podemos fazer melhor ainda.
+
+Pessoas.
+
+Fa&#231;a o que fizer na vida, as pessoas s&#227;o seu maior e &#250;nico recurso
+verdadeiro.
+E Mageia visa ajudar as pessoas. Quest&#245;es de responsabilidade. Estamos
+apenas no in&#237;cio deste fork. N&#227;o vai ser f&#225;cil. Mas acreditamos que seja
+necess&#225;rio.
+
+Ahmad Samir (ahmad78) - Colaborador da Mandriva (equipe de triagem de bugs,
+empacotamento)
+Anne Nicolas (ennael) - Ex-funcion&#225;rio da Mandriva (era empacotador, gerente
+de lan&#231;amento, gestor da comunidade)
+Anssi Hannula (Anssi) - Colaborador da Mandriva (empacotamento, tradu&#231;&#245;es)
+Arnaud Patard (rtp) - Ex-funcion&#225;rio da Mandriva (era hacker do kernel)
+Christophe Fergeau (teuf) - Ex-funcion&#225;rio da Mandriva (trabalhava com
+urpmi, drakxtools, rpm, gcc, ...)
+Colin Guthrie (coling) - Colaborador da Mandriva (Pulse Audio,
+empacotamento)
+Damien Lallement (dams) - Ex-funcion&#225;rio da Mandriva (era gerente de QA)
+Erwan Velu - Colaborador da Mandriva (empacotamento, habilitando hardware)
+F&#233;lix Martos - administrador Blogdrake
+Guillaume Rousse (guillomovitch) - Colaborador da Mandriva (empacotamento,
+ferramentas do espelho)
+J&#233;r&#244;me Quelin (jq) - Colaborador da Mandriva (Perl, empacotamento)
+Michael Scherer (misc) - Colaborador da Mandriva (constru&#231;&#227;o do sistema,
+Python, empacotamento)
+Nicolas Vigier (boklm) - Ex-funcion&#225;rio da Mandriva (trabalhava na
+constru&#231;&#227;o do sistema, empacotamento, projetos de pesquisa da Mandriva)
+Olivier Blin (blino) - Ex-funcion&#225;rio da Mandriva (trabalhava com
+Drakxtools, instalador, Perl, boot, ...)
+Olivier Mejean (goom) - Comunidade francesa de usu&#225;rios
+Olivier Thauvin (Nanar) - Colaborador da Mandriva (empacotamento, espelhos)
+Pascal Vilarem (maat) - Comunidade francesa de usu&#225;rios
+Romain d'Alverny (rda) - Ex-funcion&#225;rio da Mandriva (era gerente do sistema
+de informa&#231;&#227;o)
+S&#233;verine Wiltgen (sevalienor) - Ex-funcion&#225;rio da Mandriva (trabalhava com
+suporte profissional, server stack)
+Thierry Vignaud (tv) - Ex-funcion&#225;rio da Mandriva e contribuidor
+(Drakxtools, instalador, Perl, empacotamento)
+Thomas Backlund (tmb) - Colaborador da Mandriva (hacker do kernel,
+tradu&#231;&#245;es)
+Wolfgang Bornath (wobo) - Comunidade alem&#227; de usu&#225;rios
+
+Para outros contribuidores: se voc&#234; quiser que seu nome seja adicionado &#224;
+lista, indicando que pretende seguir o fork, avise-nos no canal IRC, ou por
+e-mail.
+
+Pr&#243;ximos passos
+
+Estamos procurando muitas coisas diferentes nos pr&#243;ximos dias:
+
+hardware para hospedagem de c&#243;digo, servidores + datacenters para hospedar o
+projeto;
+desenvolvedores, colaboradores, tradutores e testadores a dispostos a
+contribuir no desenvolvimento de Mageia;
+conselhos sobre a constru&#231;&#227;o da organiza&#231;&#227;o e seus processos, etc
+
+Sua ajuda e apoio ser&#225; muito apreciada.
+
+Como nos contatar
+
+Mailing-lists
+
+IRC (Rede Freenode)
+
+#mageia (English),
+#mageia-dev (developers channel, English),
+#mageia-kde (KDE-specific channel),
+#mageia-br (Portugu&#234;s do Brasil),
+#mageia-fi (Finnish),
+#mageia-fr (Fran&#231;ais),
+#mageia-es (Espa&#241;ol),
+#mageia-ru (Russian)
+
+
+--
+Filipe Saraiva
+**************************************
+Meu blog: <A HREF="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</A>
+
+Associa&#231;&#227;o Piauiense de Software Livre
+Projeto Software Livre - Piau&#237; - PSL-PI
+
+&#8220;Voc&#234; deve ser a mudan&#231;a que deseja ver no mundo.&#8221; - Gandhi
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+ <B>SinnerBOFH</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Jos&#233;!
+
+I'm from BlogDrake.net , Mandrake and Mandriva Spanish-speaking community.
+
+We are all at BlogDrake very excited to see our favorite Linux distribution to be reborn.
+
+See:
+
+<A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/vfmbofh/la-fe-mueve-montanas">http://blogdrake.net/blog/vfmbofh/la-fe-mueve-montanas</A>
+
+With Mageia, Magic is back!
+
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
+
+P.S.: your English is pretty good :)
+
+On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Jos&#233; Israel de Le&#243;n Cord&#243;n &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jidc07 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> I am sorry for my English, I am from Guatemala, I am studing English and now I am going to Study hard to comunicate with all of you.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I write for the first time and I do it to the 3 lists just to introduce myself,
+</I>&gt;<i> I am a Mandrake user since version 7 and now with Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010.1, mandriva is the best and I'm ready to help as
+</I>&gt;<i> necessary to this project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am studing computer engineering, I like to program in C++ / Qt4, not
+</I>&gt;<i> know much kdelibs but what I can, I'm here to help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Again, I am sorry for my English jejejejeje.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> :)
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+&gt;<i> I love the name of Mageia, and personally i am proud because it refers to
+</I>&gt;<i> the greek word &quot;&#924;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#943;&#945;&quot; =&gt; Magic =&gt; Magique
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what is the history of choosing the name ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+i did a fault is &quot;Magie&quot; in french
+--
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+
+Avoid posting in HTML, especially on mailing list please.
+
+Regards.
+
+&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A>
+</I>
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+
+Olivier Thauvin
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+<PRE>Hello there :)
+
+As some you may know, i am the founder of the French community Mandriva
+Magazine called Magnum : <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/fr/MAGNUM">http://wiki.mandriva.com/fr/MAGNUM</A> (fell free to
+download past issues)
+
+I am no developer, no more do i package, i may do bug reports, so i can't help
+much on technical side. I am rather on advocate side, promote the distro i use
+(Mandriva for the moment, Mageia in the future)
+
+I want to create a community magazine for Mageia. Instead of creating for just
+french community, i want it for the whole community.
+
+What is needed for it is quite simple :
+- writers for articles. Articles can be written by technical or non-technical
+people. Articles are on presenting a development, a new technology, a
+software, tutorials, report of an event, presentation of community, interview,
+etc.
+
+- translators. I would like to publish each magazine in as many languages
+possible, english, french, german, spanish, portuguese, greek, finnish,
+italian, ... An article can be written in any language then translate into
+english then translate into all other languages.
+
+- proof-readers to ensure quality of the texts. From my experience there is a
+need of 2 or 3 proof reading of each article. maybe a first proof reading in
+the first language used is to be set before translation.
+
+- The work of layout. Scribus is the best for publishing, it is free and free.
+With layer i think it is possible to have one layout for all translated
+magazines. Layout is also about including images, styles (once defined they
+should not change to much, btw use free fonts)
+
+- Advocates that announce the publication thougout the web
+
+- (oh, once more, a packager to create the rpm so users of mageia just have to
+install an rpm !)
+
+- i was about to forget : chief editors to shout after writers who promise to
+write but did not have time to, to shout after translators who promise to
+translate but did not have time to, to shout after proof-readers who promise
+to proof-red but..., to shout after layouters who promise ... so you see the
+point ;-)
+
+So, it is a nice stuff, it required manpower. French community was too small
+for a release each month (ah, yes, i plan to release it each month), i hope
+with an international community it will be easier to fill the magazine.
+
+What do you think of it ? Am i completely silly or just silly ?
+
+Feel free to react, comment, agree, join me !
+
+
+--
+Olivier M&#233;jean
+Pr&#233;sident de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux
+<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A>
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+Mailing lists are a good start, but we need to get a Web Forum up and
+running as soon as possible. I do not know whether someone is already
+working on one, but I can help to finance it.
+
+If no-one is working on it already, then I can go and rent a server and
+set it all up too, but I don't want to duplicate effort.
+
+Please let me know.
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+Cheers,
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+Herman
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+I'm joining the effort, like many others.
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+I am/was contributing to Mandriva Linux, mainly doing backports, maintaining some packages (games, and software around interactive fiction and text adventures), and like many others testing. Oh yes, and chatting on IRC too but I don't think it counts as &quot;contributing&quot; ;).
+
+When a BS is ready I'd be glad to have an account on it to do some packaging now for Mageia, and maybe work on more packages than previously if needed.
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+Regards
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+You can find the greek translation here:
+<A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/dimitrios/mageia_el.odt">http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/dimitrios/mageia_el.odt</A>
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+just got your previous email - please check <A HREF="http://mageia.org/el/">http://mageia.org/el/</A>
+
+thank you so much!
+
+Romain
+
+On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 22:13, Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi !
+</I>&gt;<i> You can find the greek translation here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/dimitrios/mageia_el.odt">http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/dimitrios/mageia_el.odt</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm joining the effort, like many others.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am/was contributing to Mandriva Linux, mainly doing backports, maintaining some packages (games, and software around interactive fiction and text adventures), and like many others testing. Oh yes, and chatting on IRC too but I don't think it counts as &quot;contributing&quot; ;).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When a BS is ready I'd be glad to have an account on it to do some packaging now for Mageia, and maybe work on more packages than previously if needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde (Stormi)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I forgot : I used to contribute also with donations I will be glad to do it now for Mageia. Don't expect too much, only the equivalent to the old Mandriva Club Silver membership :)
+
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+<PRE>On Saturday 18 of September 2010 11:42:47 Jos&#239;&#191;&#189; Israel de Le&#239;&#191;&#189;n
+Cord&#239;&#191;&#189;n wrote:
+&gt;<i> I am sorry for my English, I am from Guatemala, I am studing English
+</I>&gt;<i> and now I am going to Study hard to comunicate with all of you.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I write for the first time and I do it to the 3 lists just to
+</I>&gt;<i> introduce myself, I am a Mandrake user since version 7 and now with
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010.1, mandriva is the best and I'm ready to help as
+</I>&gt;<i> necessary to this project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am studing computer engineering, I like to program in C++ / Qt4, not
+</I>&gt;<i> know much kdelibs but what I can, I'm here to help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Again, I am sorry for my English jejejejeje.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE> Hi,
+
+For a server, I know that MLO (french community, ) proposed web hosting.
+(<A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org/forum/topic-9378-1+mandriva-forke-8594-mageia.php#m94166">http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org/forum/topic-9378-1+mandriva-forke-8594-mageia.php#m94166</A>
+&lt;<A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org/forum/topic-9378-1+mandriva-forke-8594-mageia.php#m94166">http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org/forum/topic-9378-1+mandriva-forke-8594-mageia.php#m94166</A>&gt;,
+use google translate :-) )
+
+Cheers,
+
+Matthieu
+Le 18/09/2010 21:55, herman a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi everybody,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mailing lists are a good start, but we need to get a Web Forum up and
+</I>&gt;<i> running as soon as possible. I do not know whether someone is already
+</I>&gt;<i> working on one, but I can help to finance it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If no-one is working on it already, then I can go and rent a server and
+</I>&gt;<i> set it all up too, but I don't want to duplicate effort.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please let me know.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Herman
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>SinnerBOFH</B>
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+On Sep 18, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi !
+</I>&gt;<i> You can find the greek translation here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/dimitrios/mageia_el.odt">http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/dimitrios/mageia_el.odt</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+Hope the new name gets a big support from Hellenic Penguins :-)
+
+Salut,
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+&gt;<i> Hi everybody,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mailing lists are a good start, but we need to get a Web Forum up and
+</I>&gt;<i> running as soon as possible. I do not know whether someone is already
+</I>&gt;<i> working on one, but I can help to finance it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If no-one is working on it already, then I can go and rent a server and
+</I>&gt;<i> set it all up too, but I don't want to duplicate effort.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please let me know.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Herman
+</I>
+Hi
+
+The announce was the very first point. A forum is planned (and if not, i will
+be glad to remain it to whoever in charge of website ! :) )
+
+Olivier aka goom
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+that I administer my home box with a mixture of GUI and command line
+tools. Have for almost eight years now... As long as Mageia plans to keep
+the GUI tools I will help what little I can.
+--
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+
+My Name is Paul Willard, a bunch of people on the internet know me as
+TerminalAddict, and I am the original founder, owner, and lead administrator
+or <A HREF="http://mandrivausers.org">http://mandrivausers.org</A>
+
+And I'm here to help :)
+
+
+
+I have registered the domain name mageiausers.org .. I hope this was OK to
+do
+
+I'm happy to assist developing a community support strategy.
+
+
+
+Talk soon.
+
+Paul Willard.
+
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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools">anssi.hannula at iki.fi
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+ <I>Sat Sep 18 23:03:41 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:59:28 William Bagwell wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+Hi!
+
+&gt;<i> Mandriva user since Mandrake 8.0. Not the least bit ashamed to admit
+</I>&gt;<i> that I administer my home box with a mixture of GUI and command line
+</I>&gt;<i> tools. Have for almost eight years now... As long as Mageia plans to keep
+</I>&gt;<i> the GUI tools I will help what little I can.
+</I>
+Yes, we will be keeping the tools. Thank you for your support :)
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+<PRE>On Saturday 18 September 2010 23:12:52 Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+Hi! and welcome :)
+
+&gt;<i> I'm joining the effort, like many others.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am/was contributing to Mandriva Linux, mainly doing backports,
+</I>&gt;<i> maintaining some packages (games, and software around interactive fiction
+</I>&gt;<i> and text adventures), and like many others testing. Oh yes, and chatting
+</I>&gt;<i> on IRC too but I don't think it counts as &quot;contributing&quot; ;).
+</I>
+It is contributing, you make the project seem more alive :)
+
+&gt;<i> When a BS is ready I'd be glad to have an account on it to do some
+</I>&gt;<i> packaging now for Mageia, and maybe work on more packages than previously
+</I>&gt;<i> if needed.
+</I>
+Thank you, your support is appreciated.
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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+ <B>William Shand</B>
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+Hi
+
+Just letting everyone know im here to help with web development if needed and maybe english editing
+
+i will help with testing too
+
+Will
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+ <B>Yves-Gael Cheny</B>
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+<PRE>Plop,
+content que &#231;a d&#233;marre ;)
+Bon, je l'ai dis sur irc, je le r&#233;p&#232;te ici,
+je suis dispo pour filer de l'aide sur du dev (C/C++/Qt surtout), de
+l'infra,
+n'importe sauf de la traduction ;)
+
+Je peux pr&#234;ter de l'espace sur un serveur perso , j'ai une ip en rabe que
+je peux garder pour le projet si il y a des trucs a h&#233;berger.
+Le petit hic c'est qu'il y a pas des masses d'espace disque dessus...
+
+Sinon, si il faut cotiser pour payer des choses, je ne sais pas ce qui est
+pr&#233;vu, mais l'id&#233;e ne me d&#233;plaie pas :p
+
+vala
+youpi pour l'initiative en tout cas :=)
+
+a+
+hurdman aka Yves-Ga&#235;l
+
+ps : je veux bien qu'on mette mon nom sur la liste :D
+
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+<PRE>On 19 September 2010 00:32, William Shand &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">will4leanne at hotmail.co.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just letting everyone know im here to help with web development if needed
+</I>&gt;<i> and maybe english editing
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i will help with testing too
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Will
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Excellent! :)
+
+(See Olivier M&#233;jean's post about the magazine he's planning to publish
+about Mageia, he needs editors/proof-readers. Also if you design web
+pages you can help design the magazine layout, using scribus.. etc).
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
+</PRE>
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+<LI><A HREF="001861.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Benoit Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001879.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="1879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>William Bagwell
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+<LI><A HREF="001875.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
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+<I>Andrey Borzenkov
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+<LI><A HREF="001884.html">[Mageia-discuss] contrib strike back
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+<I>Yves-Gael Cheny
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+<LI><A HREF="001864.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Israel de Le&#243;n Cord&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001860.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001862.html">[Mageia-discuss] The name Mageia is wonderfull !
+</A><A NAME="1862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001866.html">[Mageia-discuss] The name Mageia is wonderfull !
+</A><A NAME="1866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001872.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001881.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="1881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
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+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001859.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001868.html">[Mageia-discuss] community magazine of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001878.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001876.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthieu P
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001870.html">[Mageia-discuss] test
+</A><A NAME="1870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001885.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out
+</A><A NAME="1885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001863.html">[Mageia-discuss] Complete translate of Mageia website to Brasilian Portuguese
+</A><A NAME="1863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001883.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out
+</A><A NAME="1883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>William Shand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001865.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001877.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001867.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001871.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining
+</A><A NAME="1871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001874.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining
+</A><A NAME="1874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001880.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing Paul Willard
+</A><A NAME="1880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001873.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001869.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001857.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Sep 18 23:56:59 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 15:35:20 CEST 2010</i>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>18 September 2010 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Sep 18 15:40:56 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Sep 18 23:56:59 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 29<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001857.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001859.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001860.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001861.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Benoit Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001862.html">[Mageia-discuss] The name Mageia is wonderfull !
+</A><A NAME="1862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001863.html">[Mageia-discuss] Complete translate of Mageia website to Brasilian Portuguese
+</A><A NAME="1863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001864.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Israel de Le&#243;n Cord&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001875.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andrey Borzenkov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001865.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001866.html">[Mageia-discuss] The name Mageia is wonderfull !
+</A><A NAME="1866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001867.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001868.html">[Mageia-discuss] community magazine of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001869.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001870.html">[Mageia-discuss] test
+</A><A NAME="1870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001879.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="1879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>William Bagwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001871.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining
+</A><A NAME="1871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001872.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001873.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001874.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining
+</A><A NAME="1874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001876.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthieu P
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001877.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001878.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001880.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing Paul Willard
+</A><A NAME="1880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001881.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="1881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001882.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining
+</A><A NAME="1882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001883.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out
+</A><A NAME="1883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>William Shand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001884.html">[Mageia-discuss] contrib strike back
+</A><A NAME="1884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yves-Gael Cheny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001885.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out
+</A><A NAME="1885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Sep 18 23:56:59 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 15:35:20 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>18 September 2010 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Sep 18 15:40:56 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Sep 18 23:56:59 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 29<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001867.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001869.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001876.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthieu P
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001878.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001868.html">[Mageia-discuss] community magazine of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001863.html">[Mageia-discuss] Complete translate of Mageia website to Brasilian Portuguese
+</A><A NAME="1863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001884.html">[Mageia-discuss] contrib strike back
+</A><A NAME="1884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yves-Gael Cheny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001872.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001873.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001877.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001879.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="1879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>William Bagwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001881.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="1881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001857.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001859.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001860.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001861.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Benoit Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001883.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out
+</A><A NAME="1883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>William Shand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001885.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out
+</A><A NAME="1885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001864.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Israel de Le&#243;n Cord&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001875.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andrey Borzenkov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001865.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001880.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing Paul Willard
+</A><A NAME="1880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001871.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining
+</A><A NAME="1871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001874.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining
+</A><A NAME="1874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001882.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining
+</A><A NAME="1882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001870.html">[Mageia-discuss] test
+</A><A NAME="1870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001862.html">[Mageia-discuss] The name Mageia is wonderfull !
+</A><A NAME="1862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001866.html">[Mageia-discuss] The name Mageia is wonderfull !
+</A><A NAME="1866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Sep 18 23:56:59 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 15:35:20 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Sep 18 15:40:56 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Sep 18 23:56:59 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 29<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01284817256- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001857.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284817256-01284818187- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284817256-01284819084- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001859.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284817256-01284819084-01284819802- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001860.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284817256-01284819084-01284819802-01284827895- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001861.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello Mageia !
+</A><A NAME="1861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Benoit Audouard
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284829409- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001862.html">[Mageia-discuss] The name Mageia is wonderfull !
+</A><A NAME="1862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284829409-01284832238- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001866.html">[Mageia-discuss] The name Mageia is wonderfull !
+</A><A NAME="1866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284831290- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001863.html">[Mageia-discuss] Complete translate of Mageia website to Brasilian Portuguese
+</A><A NAME="1863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284831767- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001864.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Israel de Le&#243;n Cord&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284831767-01284832040- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001865.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284831767-01284834610- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001867.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284831772- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001875.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andrey Borzenkov
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284839059- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001868.html">[Mageia-discuss] community magazine of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284839716- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001869.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284839716-01284841026- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001876.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
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+ <B>Remy CLOUARD</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C20100919153006.GA13150%40shikamaru.fr%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">shikamaru at mandriva.org
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+<PRE>On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 05:25:12PM +0200, Tux99 wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, nosXw wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Another logo by an blogdrake.net user, GualaDrake:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</A>
+</I>impressive, it could be a perfect fit for a cd cover when mageia gets
+released
+
+Also, the fact that it&#8217;s black and white make it easy to make other
+derivatives.
+
+Regards,
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+ <B>P. Christeas</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">p_christ at hol.gr
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+<PRE>On Sunday 19 September 2010, nosXw wrote:
+&gt;<i> Another logo by an blogdrake.net user, GualaDrake:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</A>
+</I>
+IMHO: scary.. We want sth to be friendly, attractive. Even childish, I would
+say.
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+ <B>Anshul Jain</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure">anshulajain at gmail.com
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 17:38:31 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Felix Martos &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">felix.martos at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi people,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm sorry but I've lost the first discussion on this topic, as I just
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribed to the list, and there are not archives yet in the mailman
+</I>&gt;<i> page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've been providing hosting for Blogdrake project the last few years.
+</I>&gt;<i> And now we live in OVH's Paris datacenters (<A HREF="http://www.ovh.net">http://www.ovh.net</A>). Our
+</I>&gt;<i> las acquisition is a new server kimsufi 250G
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://www.kimsufi.com/ks/">http://www.kimsufi.com/ks/</A>) just installed with Mandriva 2010.1 and
+</I>&gt;<i> that is not in use yet. That will be the home of Blogdrake.net,
+</I>&gt;<i> Noticiasdrale.net and related projects...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What I wanted to say is that OVH is a very, very reliable, fast, and
+</I>&gt;<i> good provider. We're very happy with them, and their ranges and prices
+</I>&gt;<i> of servers are of a very good quality/price.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Even, they provide mirroring for some free software projects, and
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe, as a french provider, they could be receptive to collaborate
+</I>&gt;<i> with Mageia in some way (I don't eally know, but it's just an idea).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, if you need anything, please don't hesitate to ask for help to
+</I>&gt;<i> Spanish-speaking community.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hasta Pronto
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;F&#233;lix Martos Trenado
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Lawrence A Fossi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">darkfoss at comcast.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hopefully a paypal button will appear on the mageia site soon :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ----- Original Message -----
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From: &quot;Anne nicolas&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To: &quot;mageia-discuss&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:53:10 AM
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> First a big thank to all support for mageia project. This is just incredible
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> :). About infrastructure, meaning build system for distro, forums, web
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sites... we are starting working on it and we would like to be able to start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with clean situation. Having it dispatched in lots of different place will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make it difficult to maintain. So it's not&#160;we don't want help or so, we are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just taking some time to start properly and in a clean way so we can have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> all good conditions for contribution. But brainstorm can goes on as we saw
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some discussion on logos, design...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> btw we should have soon a way to accept donations as we will need to start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with servers and hosting.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Again thanks for all this support and long life to Mageia :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ----------
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+ I had helped set up a server in India sometime ago through Honesty
+Net Solutions (<A HREF="http://mandrivalinux.hnsdc.com">http://mandrivalinux.hnsdc.com</A>). They're very helpful
+to open-source projects and host Fedora, Ubuntu and Debian in addition
+to Mandriva. Time to get in touch with them for a Mageia mirror :)
+
+-Anshul
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+ <B>Tulum</B>
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 17:38:27 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 15:43:50 HacKurx, vous avez &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you for the initiative Mageia, I hope that this new distribution will
+</I>&gt;<i> be of type rolling release.
+</I>&gt;<i> Or if it is not the case, make a deposit up to date for the applications
+</I>&gt;<i> lighthouse as vlc, firefox etc....
+</I>&gt;<i> It will attract a great deal of user and will mark down you 700 existing
+</I>&gt;<i> distributions.
+</I>&gt;<i> Kind regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> HacKurx
+</I>i really like if it could be a rolling release. My english is not so good to
+explain why. globally i'm fed up with an upgrade that can break a good
+installation.
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+<PRE>I have been a linux user for 11 years now. I first started with redhat and
+quickly moved on to Mandrake because it was geared more to the desktop.
+ This was back in 1999. I think I have tried almost every linux distro to
+come out but always came back to mandrake/mandriva. My training is in
+computer tech, hardware, not software but I have no problem helping people
+figure out how to do something in Linux. I would love to be involved with
+this new distro right from the beginning so if the people in charge see
+this, just let me know how I can help.
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+On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Tulum &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tulum at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> i really like if it could be a rolling release. My english is not so good to
+</I>&gt;<i> explain why. globally i'm fed up with an upgrade that can break a good
+</I>&gt;<i> installation.
+</I>
+Well, rolling release can also break stuff - imagine you upgrade
+something like Xorg or glibc and half of your stuff needs to be
+rebuilt, checked, updated, etc.
+
+So rolling releases are actually harder to QA and make work.
+
+Regards,
+
+Jan
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+<PRE>On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:53:47AM -0400, Diego Bello wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Daniel Le Berre &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">le.berred at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 19 sept. 2010 &#224; 16:35, P. Christeas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Sunday 19 September 2010, gejo wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ++
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (hope Mandriva company doesn't mind about the star)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I was thinking exactly the same thing when I saw that logo.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe the star should be replaced by something related to &quot;community&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Daniel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't imagine a figure for community, but what about a moon, or half
+</I>&gt;<i> moon instead of a star?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I support this idea 100% (had the same too :-) )
+
+I think taking the moon as a base will definitely produce something good
+while keeping it simple.
+
+The advantage of this is that it&#8217;s easy to make derivatives of the logo,
+like for ubuntu with kubuntu, edubuntu.
+
+Circular shapes tend also to be popular these days, and a simple symbol
+is more catchy, I mean, take the debian spiral for instance
+
+Regards,
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+<PRE>On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Tulum &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tulum at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 15:43:50 HacKurx, vous avez &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thank you for the initiative Mageia, I hope that this new distribution will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be of type rolling release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or if it is not the case, make a deposit up to date for the applications
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lighthouse as vlc, firefox etc....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It will attract a great deal of user and will mark down you 700 existing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distributions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Kind regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> HacKurx
+</I>&gt;<i> i really like if it could be a rolling release. My english is not so good to
+</I>&gt;<i> explain why. globally i'm fed up with an upgrade that can break a good
+</I>&gt;<i> installation.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
++1 to a rolling release. There could be some downsides to a rolling
+release though. While a new kernel, GNOME or KDE updates are less
+prone to breakage of the installation....but an X.org change can and
+sometimes does bring down the install.
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+<PRE>Op zondag 19 september 2010 16:14:24 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Remco Rijnders &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco at webconquest.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 09:44:50AM -0400, SinnerBOFH wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Sep 19, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Maurice &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Mailing lists are a good start, but we need to get a Web Forum
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; up and running as soon as possible.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Yes, that would be a good move, but personally I would prefer a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; newsgroup (simply because it's more convenient), if that were
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; possible.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi Maurice,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I love USENET, been on it since mid 90's. But it's dying and new Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; users do not know that it even exists.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Today web forum is the only way Mageia will be noticed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Sad but true.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But one thing doesn't have to exclude the other, does it? Even though
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; having NNTP groups may not be very visible, I would be happy having them.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Perhaps even some gatewaying can be done not just between the mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; list and the newsgroups, but perhaps even to the forum boards?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Besides... despite what the popular opinion might be, you don't have to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be a rocket scientist to be on usenet! Many newsgroups have actually
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; improved in quality in recent years in my opinion.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Kind regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Remco
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Although it's true what you say about usenet (I remember a very good
+</I>&gt;<i> time on oulm (was that correct?)) and I loved reading lots of groups
+</I>&gt;<i> with Emacs-Gnus, today the webforums are the way to go in userland as
+</I>&gt;<i> mailinglists are the preferred plattforms in devland.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think the main goal should be to keep everything as centralized as
+</I>&gt;<i> possible. Announcements (to the users and the public) must be in the
+</I>&gt;<i> same place as user discussions and support. Gates from one to another
+</I>&gt;<i> platform are there but they are also sources of missing mails/postings
+</I>&gt;<i> or inconsistent discussion threads.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The chaotic way of news publishing at Mandriva (sometimes even hidden
+</I>&gt;<i> in blogs), discussions of the same topic taking place in several
+</I>&gt;<i> plattforms (see MUGs forum and mailing list) was a nightmare, let's
+</I>&gt;<i> not repeat the mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>
+i agree
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+ <B>Jan Ciger</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:22 PM, nosXw &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mail.nosxw at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Another logo by an blogdrake.net user, GualaDrake:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</A>
+</I>
+Love these!
+
+Now that would be something to have lightscribed on the CD/DVD ...
+
+Regards,
+
+Jan
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+<PRE>Op zondag 19 september 2010 17:38:27 schreef Tulum:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 15:43:50 HacKurx, vous avez &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thank you for the initiative Mageia, I hope that this new distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will be of type rolling release.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Or if it is not the case, make a deposit up to date for the applications
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lighthouse as vlc, firefox etc....
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It will attract a great deal of user and will mark down you 700 existing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; distributions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Kind regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; HacKurx
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i really like if it could be a rolling release. My english is not so good
+</I>&gt;<i> to explain why. globally i'm fed up with an upgrade that can break a good
+</I>&gt;<i> installation.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>
+well, imo, the way it was in mdv at the latest, is that it was more or less a
+rolling release, the online upgrades were completely painless. i would like to
+see this continued or even improved with more online upgrade testing.
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+ <B>Farfouille</B>
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+<PRE> Hi Malcer,
+
+I like the font. Maybe the tail of 'g' should be longer. But I'm not
+fond of the purpleish halo which recalls me Ubuntu.
+
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+
+Le 19/09/2010 17:23, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Malcer Quaid wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png">http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any ideas without repeating concepts?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Greetings;)
+</I>&gt;<i> The font is not bad, but the colour is too dark and I think it needs to
+</I>&gt;<i> be svg (vector graphics) to be usable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+<PRE>Will urpmi be a part of mageia?
+If not then perhaps Smart will be considered as the default package handler.
+While the gui is not flashy it's powerful flexible and offers a few features that isn't available
+in the MCC implementation.
+----- Original Message -----
+From: &quot;Anssi Hannula&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>&gt;
+To: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:03:41 PM
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+
+On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:59:28 William Bagwell wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+Hi!
+
+&gt;<i> Mandriva user since Mandrake 8.0. Not the least bit ashamed to admit
+</I>&gt;<i> that I administer my home box with a mixture of GUI and command line
+</I>&gt;<i> tools. Have for almost eight years now... As long as Mageia plans to keep
+</I>&gt;<i> the GUI tools I will help what little I can.
+</I>
+Yes, we will be keeping the tools. Thank you for your support :)
+
+--
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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op zondag 19 september 2010 17:22:24 schreef nosXw:
+&gt;<i> Another logo by an blogdrake.net user, GualaDrake:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+i would like the left bottom one smaller and simplified for the start button in
+KDE.
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+<PRE>On Sunday 19 September 2010 10:46:01 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+&gt;<i> well, imo, the way it was in mdv at the latest, is that it was more or less
+</I>&gt;<i> a rolling release, the online upgrades were completely painless. i would
+</I>&gt;<i> like to see this continued or even improved with more online upgrade
+</I>&gt;<i> testing. _______________________________________________
+</I>
+As someone who has used rolling releases, I give a +1 to _not_ doing them.
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+Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that Mageia
+will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great, which IMHO
+means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.
+
+If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly alienate
+many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the Mandriva userbase.
+
+
+On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Lawrence A Fossi wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Will urpmi be a part of mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i> If not then perhaps Smart will be considered as the default package handler.
+</I>&gt;<i> While the gui is not flashy it's powerful flexible and offers a few features that isn't available
+</I>&gt;<i> in the MCC implementation.
+</I>&gt;<i> ----- Original Message -----
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Anssi Hannula&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:03:41 PM
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:59:28 William Bagwell wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mandriva user since Mandrake 8.0. Not the least bit ashamed to admit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that I administer my home box with a mixture of GUI and command line
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tools. Have for almost eight years now... As long as Mageia plans to keep
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the GUI tools I will help what little I can.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, we will be keeping the tools. Thank you for your support :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+<PRE>I imagine something with the magic crystal
+Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+inspiration
+
+<A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+<A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
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+The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu
+button etc
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+ <B>Malcer Quaid</B>
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+<PRE>Hi!
+
+I chose a font in which the &quot;g&quot; does not take prominence over the rest of the letters. I think a logo is more homogeneous.
+
+I thought the colors blue and black protagonists. Something a little more current, more flat and minimalist, like professional logos.
+
+Saludos ;)
+----- Mensaje original -----
+De: Farfouille
+Enviado: 19-09-10 17:47
+Para: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+
+Hi Malcer, I like the font. Maybe the tail of 'g' should be longer. But I'm not fond of the purpleish halo which recalls me Ubuntu. Le 19/09/2010 17:23, Tux99 a &#233;crit : &gt; On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Malcer Quaid wrote: &gt; &gt;&gt; This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png">http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png</A> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Any ideas without repeating concepts? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Greetings;) &gt; The font is not bad, but the colour is too dark and I think it needs to &gt; be svg (vector graphics) to be usable. &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+
+Malcer
+
+ext4 Blog, el rinc&#243;n de Malcer
+
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+<PRE>On Sunday 19 September 2010 10:54:56 Tux99 wrote:
+&gt;<i> Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great, which IMHO
+</I>&gt;<i> means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.
+</I>
+One of the best assets Mandriva had over others is the way urpmi worked. IMHO
+as well.
+
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+
+On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great, which IMHO
+</I>&gt;<i> means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly alienate
+</I>&gt;<i> many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the Mandriva userbase.
+</I>
+That is one thing, but more importantly - what is wrong with urpmi? I
+think that out of rpm-based package managers it is one of the best.
+
+Regards,
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+Jan
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C201009191802.37076.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com
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+<PRE>Hi,
+Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn't just
+some variation of the Mandriva star...
+
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+<PRE>On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Maarten Vanraes
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> well, imo, the way it was in mdv at the latest, is that it was more or less a
+</I>&gt;<i> rolling release, the online upgrades were completely painless. i would like to
+</I>&gt;<i> see this continued or even improved with more online upgrade testing.
+</I>
+Well, that is exactly what is not a rolling release - you have a large
+freeze and QA/stabilization period before each release was made.
+Rolling release distros like Gentoo or Arch do not have a notion of
+release - just a repository of software that may or may not work
+together.
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+Regards,
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+Jan
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+<PRE>Op zondag 19 september 2010 17:54:56 schreef Tux99:
+&gt;<i> Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great, which IMHO
+</I>&gt;<i> means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly alienate
+</I>&gt;<i> many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the Mandriva userbase.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Lawrence A Fossi wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Will urpmi be a part of mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If not then perhaps Smart will be considered as the default package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; handler. While the gui is not flashy it's powerful flexible and offers a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; few features that isn't available in the MCC implementation.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ----- Original Message -----
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; From: &quot;Anssi Hannula&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:03:41 PM
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:59:28 William Bagwell wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Mandriva user since Mandrake 8.0. Not the least bit ashamed to admit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; that I administer my home box with a mixture of GUI and command line
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; tools. Have for almost eight years now... As long as Mageia plans to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; keep the GUI tools I will help what little I can.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, we will be keeping the tools. Thank you for your support :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>
+
+i agree, they work, are great, and people know these to be good, we need a MCC
+with everything on it.
+
+some of those are a bit dated, and we could clean up some of the code, but i
+want to keep those.
+
+i do plan for some modifications to make installing with network-related
+storage easier, but that's another thing.
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+<PRE>On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:38 AM, P. Christeas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">p_christ at hol.gr</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On Sunday 19 September 2010, nosXw wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Another logo by an blogdrake.net user, GualaDrake:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO: scary.. We want sth to be friendly, attractive. Even childish, I
+</I>&gt;<i> would
+</I>&gt;<i> say.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>P. Christeas</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">p_christ at hol.gr
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+<PRE>On Sunday 19 September 2010, Remy CLOUARD wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:53:47AM -0400, Diego Bello wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I can't imagine a figure for community, but what about a moon, or half
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; moon instead of a star?
+</I>
+&gt;<i> I think taking the moon as a base will definitely produce something good
+</I>&gt;<i> while keeping it simple.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Voting against: the half/empty moon is a flag symbol for several muslim
+countries. We shouldn't mess with politics.
+For a full moon, we should consider if it is used anywhere else already.
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+<PRE>On dimanche 19 septembre 2010 at 17:57, Jan Ciger wrote :
+&gt;<i> That is one thing, but more importantly - what is wrong with urpmi? I
+</I>&gt;<i> think that out of rpm-based package managers it is one of the best.
+</I>
+I agree, I think urpmi is only second to debian's apt, and only for a tiny
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+ <B>isadora</B>
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+<PRE>Very cool!!!
+
+2010/9/19 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> just
+</I>&gt;<i> some variation of the Mandriva star...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+
+--
+Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.
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+<PRE>On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Oliver Burger
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> just
+</I>&gt;<i> some variation of the Mandriva star...
+</I>
+
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+
+I'm the force behind the Swedish Mandriva Community
+(<A HREF="http://mandriva-se.org">http://mandriva-se.org</A>) which has grown quite fast since we started the
+site 619 days ago. The other day some of the users announced that they
+were moving from Mandriva to Linux Mint since the future of Mandriva is
+so uncertain. A day or two later someone announced that they found
+Mageia and that they were hoping to continue using Mandriva but in the
+form of Mageia.
+
+Because of this i've published a poll about weither to migrate
+Mandriva-se.org to Mageia-se.org or to just start Mageia-se.org as a new
+website meant to act as the Swedish community-site for Mageia.
+
+No matter which alternative the users pick there will be a Mageia-se.org
+so that Swedish users can discuss Mageia.
+
+I therefor ask to be put on the list on your website so that the users
+of Mandriva-se.org can see that i'm serious in supporting this new
+Mandriva fork and that they can feel comfortable in switching from
+Mandriva to Mageia when it gets ready for that.
+
+--
+
+---
+David V. Wallin
++46 (0)8 41 00 39 82
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">david at ngweb.se</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.ngweb.se">http://www.ngweb.se</A>
+
+
+---
+
+Vi f&#246;rs&#246;ker st&#228;ndigt f&#246;rb&#228;ttra oss och ber er d&#228;rf&#246;r om 1 minut f&#246;r att
+l&#228;mna ditt omd&#246;mme:
+<A HREF="http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/">http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/</A>
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+ <B>Felix Martos</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D7WbMC3ytqD7ohuejgwi%3DZQhM6ZVUeD7pqkvkY%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">felix.martos at gmail.com
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+<PRE>I really love it! The idea is great, and maybe a dark shape of a
+penguin inside would make it looke like a very good logo
+
+
+Hasta Pronto
+
+--
+&#160;F&#233;lix Martos Trenado
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+
+2010/9/19 Drakedalfa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">drakedalfa at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some variation of the Mandriva star...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like it too
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+<PRE>Op zondag 19 september 2010 17:57:54 schreef Jan Ciger:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great, which IMHO
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly alienate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the Mandriva userbase.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is one thing, but more importantly - what is wrong with urpmi? I
+</I>&gt;<i> think that out of rpm-based package managers it is one of the best.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>
+it is the best package manager. however everything can improve and i am having
+some small improvement ideas, but those are for a later time.
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+<PRE>2010/9/19 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn't just
+</I>&gt;<i> some variation of the Mandriva star...
+</I>
++1. May be some improvement could be done, but it's great: nice and
+simple enough.
+
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+--
+Si se busca el triunfo como sea, se vive el drama de tener que ganar.
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+<PRE>Op zondag 19 september 2010 18:00:15 schreef Jan Ciger:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Maarten Vanraes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; well, imo, the way it was in mdv at the latest, is that it was more or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; less a rolling release, the online upgrades were completely painless. i
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would like to see this continued or even improved with more online
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; upgrade testing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that is exactly what is not a rolling release - you have a large
+</I>&gt;<i> freeze and QA/stabilization period before each release was made.
+</I>&gt;<i> Rolling release distros like Gentoo or Arch do not have a notion of
+</I>&gt;<i> release - just a repository of software that may or may not work
+</I>&gt;<i> together.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+then i vote against it.
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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op zondag 19 september 2010 18:00:15 schreef Jan Ciger:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Maarten Vanraes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; well, imo, the way it was in mdv at the latest, is that it was more or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; less a rolling release, the online upgrades were completely painless. i
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would like to see this continued or even improved with more online
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; upgrade testing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that is exactly what is not a rolling release - you have a large
+</I>&gt;<i> freeze and QA/stabilization period before each release was made.
+</I>&gt;<i> Rolling release distros like Gentoo or Arch do not have a notion of
+</I>&gt;<i> release - just a repository of software that may or may not work
+</I>&gt;<i> together.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>
+forgot to add that stability is of greater importance to me, so i prefer
+releases and security upgrades and possibly backports
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+ <B>Moreau Serge</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">serge.moreau at wanadoo.fr
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 17:55:03, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;<i> inspiration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu
+</I>&gt;<i> button etc
+</I>
+ I agree, that is a good idea which can easiky be declined in various contexts
+--
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+ <B>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com</B>
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+<PRE>Very nice artwork! :)
+-----Original Message-----
+From: Moreau Serge &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">serge.moreau at wanadoo.fr</A>&gt;
+Sender: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>
+Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:18:08
+To: Mageia general discussions&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Reply-To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+
+Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 17:55:03, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;<i> inspiration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu
+</I>&gt;<i> button etc
+</I>
+ I agree, that is a good idea which can easiky be declined in various contexts
+--
+
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+<PRE>Le 19/09/2010 18:17, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op zondag 19 september 2010 18:00:15 schreef Jan Ciger:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Maarten Vanraes
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> well, imo, the way it was in mdv at the latest, is that it was more or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> less a rolling release, the online upgrades were completely painless. i
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> would like to see this continued or even improved with more online
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upgrade testing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, that is exactly what is not a rolling release - you have a large
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> freeze and QA/stabilization period before each release was made.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Rolling release distros like Gentoo or Arch do not have a notion of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release - just a repository of software that may or may not work
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> together.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Jan
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> forgot to add that stability is of greater importance to me, so i prefer
+</I>&gt;<i> releases and security upgrades and possibly backports
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Vinet Rapha&#235;l</B>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 17:55:03 Dimitrios Glentadakis, vous avez &#233;crit
+:<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;<i> inspiration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu
+</I>&gt;<i> button etc
+</I>
+very nice !
+not same at all with mandriva, style, colours, modern, ... i vote for these
+(probably the 1st in my preferred) or similar ones :-)
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+<PRE>Le 19/09/2010 18:14, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op zondag 19 september 2010 17:57:54 schreef Jan Ciger:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great, which IMHO
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly alienate
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the Mandriva userbase.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That is one thing, but more importantly - what is wrong with urpmi? I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> think that out of rpm-based package managers it is one of the best.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Jan
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it is the best package manager. however everything can improve and i am having
+</I>&gt;<i> some small improvement ideas, but those are for a later time.
+</I>
+urpmi is the main reason why I kept using Mandrake/Mandriva for 12 years
+(started using Linux 17 years ago).
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+One small thing regarding updates:
+closing first thunderbird or firefox before updating them if they are
+active would avoid the user to have to kill those processes by hand
+afterward :)
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+<PRE>On Sunday, September 19, 2010 05:53:10 am Anne nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First a big thank to all support for mageia project. This is just
+</I>&gt;<i> incredible
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> :). About infrastructure, meaning build system for distro, forums, web
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> sites... we are starting working on it and we would like to be able to
+</I>&gt;<i> start with clean situation. Having it dispatched in lots of different
+</I>&gt;<i> place will make it difficult to maintain. So it's not we don't want help
+</I>&gt;<i> or so, we are just taking some time to start properly and in a clean way
+</I>&gt;<i> so we can have all good conditions for contribution. But brainstorm can
+</I>&gt;<i> goes on as we saw some discussion on logos, design...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> btw we should have soon a way to accept donations as we will need to start
+</I>&gt;<i> with servers and hosting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Again thanks for all this support and long life to Mageia :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>Ann, maybe this is asking too much now (could be in the future), do you plan a
+none profit company in US so donations will be tax deductible?
+
+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:14:43 +0200
+Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
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+&gt;<i> Op zondag 19 september 2010 17:57:54 schreef Jan Ciger:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great, which IMHO
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly alienate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the Mandriva userbase.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That is one thing, but more importantly - what is wrong with urpmi? I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; think that out of rpm-based package managers it is one of the best.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Jan
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it is the best package manager. however everything can improve and i am having
+</I>&gt;<i> some small improvement ideas, but those are for a later time.
+</I>
+Like downgrading packages as smart can do it ?
+
+--
+A.Sala&#252;n
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+
+I just created the following accounts, to avoid cyber-squatting:
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+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">MageiaLinux at gmail.com</A>
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+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">MageiaLinux at yahoo.com</A> (with associated Mageia Linux Flickr account)
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great, which IMHO
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly alienate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the Mandriva userbase.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is one thing, but more importantly - what is wrong with urpmi? I
+</I>&gt;<i> think that out of rpm-based package managers it is one of the best.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan
+</I>
+URPMI is the best collections of rpm tools.
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE> I like it too. Maybe instead a translucent penguin on the inside,
+almost like a subliminal picture of a penguin.
+
+Marc
+
+Le 2010-09-19 12:14, Felix Martos a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I really love it! The idea is great, and maybe a dark shape of a
+</I>&gt;<i> penguin inside would make it looke like a very good logo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hasta Pronto
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> F&#233;lix Martos Trenado
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Drakedalfa&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">drakedalfa at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Oliver Burger&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> some variation of the Mandriva star...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I like it too
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:02:36 +0200
+Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn't just
+</I>&gt;<i> some variation of the Mandriva star...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>Me too.
+--
+A.Sala&#252;n
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+ <B>herman</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org">herman at aeronetworks.ca
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 18:33:24 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 06:27 -0700, Harijs Buss wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Pardon my &quot;politically incorrect&quot; questions, but nevertheless:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) Is Mageia just a publicity stunt to generate some more users for
+</I>&gt;<i> the same Mandriva, as it might be understood from your letter?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Mageia is a fork of Mandriva, so initially, it will be exactly the same.
+Therefore advising new users to download the Mandriva distribution will
+preserve them until the fork takes on a life of its own. It is exactly
+the same situation as when Xorg forked from X.
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+ <B>Renaud MICHEL</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Packaging%20games%20%28Was%3A%20IMPORTANT%20POINTS%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201009191840.45674.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 18:40:45 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On dimanche 19 septembre 2010 at 13:19, Maarten Vanraes wrote :
+&gt;<i> in my pov games are an important element of the targeted public.
+</I>
+I agree, games are an important part of the experience people expect from
+their computer (even I, being a geek and programmer, agree with that,
+although I have too few spare time for that ;-) ).
+
+And there are now many great free (either as in beer or speach) games for
+Linux that should be promoted. (I see frequently announces for such games on
+linuxfr.org).
+
+But maybe all those big games should be placed in their own, separate
+repository, so that people using the distribution for work (like
+enterprises) could easily mirror the main repository but skipping that one
+(which could quickly weight tens of GiB with all those great games available
+out there).
+Just like it is already done with the non-free repository for those who want
+only a really free OS.
+
+Just a personal thought.
+
+Cheers
+--
+Renaud Michel
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+ <B>Dale Huckeby</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.00.1009191129290.18709%40astro.scholar.athome%3E"
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+<PRE>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, nosXw wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Another logo by an blogdrake.net user, GualaDrake:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>
+Not bad but lettering should be less curly and Gnu-Linux should be right side up. (I understand that outside edge
+of circle is &quot;up&quot; but it works better if it's just readable without rotating the circle.)
+
+Dale Huckeby
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n</B>
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+<PRE>What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
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+--
+A.Sala&#252;n
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+<PRE>Renaud MICHEL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+&gt;<i> I agree, games are an important part of the experience people expect from
+</I>&gt;<i> their computer (even I, being a geek and programmer, agree with that,
+</I>&gt;<i> although I have too few spare time for that ;-) ).
+</I>Perhaps I could help, packaging some of them. I already have a few game
+packages in the mandrivauser.de repo. Those could be easily rebuilt for the
+coming mageia repos.
+
+Oliver
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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+As soon we'll have a kind of infrastructure and making the distribution
+will start we'll need a way to distribute it.
+So to be ready as soon as possible I start here a discuss about the
+mirror management and will make some suggestion.
+
+Nothing is done at time, so feel free to comment.
+
+1) The mirror content:
+- distribution
+ - devel one
+ - stable one
+
+is there enything else (patch, our own applications as source,
+documentation as flat html file) ?
+
+We also have to define the rules making a mirror valid and avoid
+differences between them.
+
+2) The logical mirroring process
+
+The proposal is to have a safe and access limited rsync server
+containing the tree (rsync.mageia.org ?). Mirroring from this one can
+only be done after being authorized by our team.
+
+At second level, rsync'd from this safe server some referenced servers
+open to the world for all other mirrors (distrib-coffee could be one of
+them). The manager of these servers must be reachable, then we need to
+know them.
+
+So at the end all others mirrors from where everyone can fetch the
+distribution, and anyone could freely setup a such mirror.
+
+3) Listing mirrors
+
+I do think registering mirrors could be done by anyone, once the mirror
+is availlable.
+
+So i suggest to have a web application to allow mirror registration.
+After submission a post process could verify the URL validity and if
+everything is ok the new mirror would appear in official list.
+
+The main point of this idea is to not force mirrors admin to registering
+on any bug tracker or anything else.
+
+The second goal of such application is of course to monitor them and
+alert when they are down or out of sync.
+
+
+Feel free to comment. I'll be carrefully reading this thread !
+
+Regards.
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS - LATMOS
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+ <B>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Packaging%20games%20%28Was%3A%20IMPORTANT%20POINTS%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DNDMsUSqFgKUaR8W7nCWtmosT5qqq05f7z3WAw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)">clsdaniel at gmail.com
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+<PRE>Maybe the distribution could include a few casual games (such as board
+games, cards, etc), and have the big games in the repository, I'm also
+willing to help packaging games as this was one of the things I used
+to do packages for.
+
+Regards,
+Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela
+
+On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Burger
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Renaud MICHEL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I agree, games are an important part of the experience people expect from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> their computer (even I, being a geek and programmer, agree with that,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> although I have too few spare time for that ;-) ).
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps I could help, packaging some of them. I already have a few game
+</I>&gt;<i> packages in the mandrivauser.de repo. Those could be easily rebuilt for the
+</I>&gt;<i> coming mageia repos.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Bart Simons</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C4C963EAE.6070005%40chello.nl%3E"
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+<PRE>On 19-09-10 18:02, Oliver Burger wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn't just
+</I>&gt;<i> some variation of the Mandriva star...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>+1 and: the crystal ball doesn't need flames
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+ <B>Ciprian Stoica</B>
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+<PRE>+1 on this.
+
+It seems to speak everything the name makes you think.
+
+On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:02 +0200, &quot;Oliver Burger&quot;
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> just
+</I>&gt;<i> some variation of the Mandriva star...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>--
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+ <B>Dale Huckeby</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Oliver Burger wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn't just
+</I>&gt;<i> some variation of the Mandriva star...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+I like it! This is the first logo that has really grabbed me. Looks modern and not dorky as some of the past
+and present designs do.
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+Dale Huckeby
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+ <B>Dale Huckeby</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Felix Martos wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I really love it! The idea is great, and maybe a dark shape of a
+</I>&gt;<i> penguin inside would make it looke like a very good logo
+</I>
+Penguin images are cute and cuddly but are precisely what have made past logos look dorky. I like the
+image just as it is. It evokes the idea of magic without looking silly. Really good design.
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-19 12:40, Renaud MICHEL a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On dimanche 19 septembre 2010 at 13:19, Maarten Vanraes wrote :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in my pov games are an important element of the targeted public.
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree, games are an important part of the experience people expect from
+</I>&gt;<i> their computer (even I, being a geek and programmer, agree with that,
+</I>&gt;<i> although I have too few spare time for that ;-) ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And there are now many great free (either as in beer or speach) games for
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux that should be promoted. (I see frequently announces for such games on
+</I>&gt;<i> linuxfr.org).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But maybe all those big games should be placed in their own, separate
+</I>&gt;<i> repository, so that people using the distribution for work (like
+</I>&gt;<i> enterprises) could easily mirror the main repository but skipping that one
+</I>&gt;<i> (which could quickly weight tens of GiB with all those great games available
+</I>&gt;<i> out there).
+</I>&gt;<i> Just like it is already done with the non-free repository for those who want
+</I>&gt;<i> only a really free OS.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a personal thought.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>I agree. The Mdv systems I have installed, the owners would not have
+been interested in games and most are using it for work purposes (from
+their homes). I agree also that the most basic of games should still be
+included (the ones installed from Mandriva are fine) and a separate repo
+for the games be made available.
+
+Marc
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+ <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B>
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+<PRE>I like the concept very much!
+
+On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;<i> inspiration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu
+</I>&gt;<i> button etc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>A lower case 'm' too?
+
+On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Malcer Quaid &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">malcer at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I chose a font in which the &quot;g&quot; does not take prominence over the rest of
+</I>&gt;<i> the letters. I think a logo is more homogeneous.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I thought the colors blue and black protagonists. Something a little more
+</I>&gt;<i> current, more flat and minimalist, like professional logos.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Saludos ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----- Mensaje original -----
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> De: Farfouille
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Enviado: 19-09-10 17:47
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Para: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Malcer, I like the font. Maybe the tail of 'g' should be longer. But I'm not fond of the purpleish halo which recalls me Ubuntu. Le 19/09/2010 17:23, Tux99 a &#233;crit : &gt; On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Malcer Quaid wrote: &gt; &gt;&gt; This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png">http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png</A> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Any ideas without repeating concepts? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Greetings;) &gt; The font is not bad, but the colour is too dark and I think it needs to &gt; be svg (vector graphics) to be usable. &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Malcer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ext4 Blog, el rinc&#243;n de Malcer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ext4.wordpress.com">http://ext4.wordpress.com</A>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Olivier Thauvin &lt;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As soon we'll have a kind of infrastructure and making the distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> will start we'll need a way to distribute it.
+</I>&gt;<i> So to be ready as soon as possible I start here a discuss about the
+</I>&gt;<i> mirror management and will make some suggestion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nothing is done at time, so feel free to comment.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) The mirror content:
+</I>&gt;<i> - distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> - devel one
+</I>&gt;<i> - stable one
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is there enything else (patch, our own applications as source,
+</I>&gt;<i> documentation as flat html file) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We also have to define the rules making a mirror valid and avoid
+</I>&gt;<i> differences between them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) The logical mirroring process
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The proposal is to have a safe and access limited rsync server
+</I>&gt;<i> containing the tree (rsync.mageia.org ?). Mirroring from this one can
+</I>&gt;<i> only be done after being authorized by our team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At second level, rsync'd from this safe server some referenced servers
+</I>&gt;<i> open to the world for all other mirrors (distrib-coffee could be one of
+</I>&gt;<i> them). The manager of these servers must be reachable, then we need to
+</I>&gt;<i> know them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So at the end all others mirrors from where everyone can fetch the
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution, and anyone could freely setup a such mirror.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) Listing mirrors
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do think registering mirrors could be done by anyone, once the mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> is availlable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So i suggest to have a web application to allow mirror registration.
+</I>&gt;<i> After submission a post process could verify the URL validity and if
+</I>&gt;<i> everything is ok the new mirror would appear in official list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The main point of this idea is to not force mirrors admin to registering
+</I>&gt;<i> on any bug tracker or anything else.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The second goal of such application is of course to monitor them and
+</I>&gt;<i> alert when they are down or out of sync.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Feel free to comment. I'll be carrefully reading this thread !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Thauvin
+</I>&gt;<i> CNRS - LATMOS
+</I>&gt;<i> &#9814; &#9816; &#9815; &#9813; &#9812; &#9815; &#9816; &#9814;
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+Idk if this is of any interest to you guys, but at Unity Linux we have a
+devel server central to everything that syncs with ibiblio thru a series of
+scripts. Then we have ~20 other sites that rsync with ibiblio on a regular
+basis. Ibiblio is a great mirror to use b/c by default there are already
+several other sites mirroring it.
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+Then we have a mirror monitoring system that reports the status of the
+mirrors.
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+ <B>Filipe Saraiva</B>
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+<PRE>In my opinion, in terms of logo, gejo's art (
+<A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>) is very cool.
+Others arts could be the wallpaper or others artistics elements of
+distribution.
+
+2010/9/19 Dale Huckeby &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">spock at evansville.net</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Felix Martos wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I really love it! The idea is great, and maybe a dark shape of a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> penguin inside would make it looke like a very good logo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Penguin images are cute and cuddly but are precisely what have made past
+</I>&gt;<i> logos look dorky. I like the
+</I>&gt;<i> image just as it is. It evokes the idea of magic without looking silly.
+</I>&gt;<i> Really good design.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+
+--
+Filipe Saraiva
+**************************************
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+ <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B>
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+<PRE>I like the second most, has more 3d in it, and the lightning bolts are so
+dynamic.
+
+On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> just
+</I>&gt;<i> some variation of the Mandriva star...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">pierre-malo.denielou at inria.fr
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+<PRE>Le 19/09/2010 16:55,Dimitrios Glentadakis nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>
+The concept is great ...
+
+... but we should be careful about this particular orb:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.webdesign.org/photoshop/drawing-techniques/create-a-magic-orb.15800.html">http://www.webdesign.org/photoshop/drawing-techniques/create-a-magic-orb.15800.html</A>
+
+Google also finds many orb logos that we can avoid :-).
+
+--
+Malo
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+ <B>Jean Peyratout</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C4C964A96.8010402%40abul.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">jean.peyratout at abul.org
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 19:38:30 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le 19/09/2010 19:18, Dale Huckeby a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> Malcer wrote :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png">http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ./. I like the image just as it is. It evokes the idea of
+</I>&gt;<i> magic without looking silly. Really good design.
+</I>
++ 1
+
+Fair wizardry, no fear...
+The simplest the best, thanks to Malcer.
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Jean Peyratout - Scideralle : <A HREF="http://scideralle.org">http://scideralle.org</A>
+courriel : <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jean.peyratout at abul.org</A> - t&#233;l. +33 682.059.918
+GPG : FAF4 46FB 9CD9 4772 80E3 6E63 C529 305E 5A49 F04E
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-19 13:14, Maurice a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 2010-09-19 at 14:44 Sinner said:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I love USENET, been on it since mid 90's. But it's dying
+</I>&gt;<i> There's no sign of that among the many newsgroups that I
+</I>&gt;<i> follow, and that includes a very active and priceless Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> newsgroup, as well as e.g. SuSE, and other non-Linux groups.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's so much more convenient to follow and respond to new
+</I>&gt;<i> postings, compared with web fora - given a good newsreader app.
+</I>I teach at a school board and advise on the IT team committee, on that
+committee very few members know what Usenet is all about; none of the
+teachers at my elementary school know about Usenet (never heard of it!);
+my two sons, one at University 3rd year and the other grade 7, both have
+never used Usenet nor can they come up with a single person they know
+who use Usenet. I publish an online music magazine and get feeds from
+20-30 groups all mailists (deluged with mail) and the couple of music
+related Usenet groups may post only 2-3 messages every 3-4 months; I
+participate on a couple of developer groups (software) and they do not
+use Usenet but mailists; and the list goes on ....
+
+I am also on the Mandriva news group and considering the amount of
+people who use Mandriva, very few seem to make use of the group, and in
+contrast, the Mandriva forums were pretty active and the official
+reps/moderators were at least there to listen and respond. I don't
+believe that any Mandriva rep. was ever on the news group or if they
+were, they were not too visible.
+
+In my opinion, a usenet group would be a nice perk but could also strain
+the Mageia group resources too thin.
+
+Marc
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 15:22:03, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &gt; Will donations also be used to keep the former Edge-IT team focused on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not fixed for now. We have to speak about this. But it can be an
+</I>&gt;<i> option.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Could we participate on discussion, simply by sending our ideas about ? (not
+discuss directly, but give ideas)
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+ <B>Nuno Pinheiro</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C201009191756.31043.nuno%40oxygen-icons.org%3E"
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+<PRE>wanted to present my idea, somthing fastly made today
+
+<A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png
+
+
+well the idea is very simple and revolves around the fonts, and its outline
+
+so for exmaple in a educational stand point would be somthing like the
+colorfull version on the banner
+
+on a buisness like presentation a gray solid color
+
+on a desktop version plain blue etc etc...
+
+please cc me :)
+--
+oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot;
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 19:25:31, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 16:55,Dimitrios Glentadakis nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The concept is great ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ... but we should be careful about this particular orb:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.webdesign.org/photoshop/drawing-techniques/create-a-magic-orb.15800.html">http://www.webdesign.org/photoshop/drawing-techniques/create-a-magic-orb.15800.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Google also finds many orb logos that we can avoid :-).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Wow. Indeed that logo can't be taken as is !
+
+Regards
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+Samuel
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-19 13:25, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 16:55,Dimitrios Glentadakis nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> The concept is great ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ... but we should be careful about this particular orb:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.webdesign.org/photoshop/drawing-techniques/create-a-magic-orb.15800.html">http://www.webdesign.org/photoshop/drawing-techniques/create-a-magic-orb.15800.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Google also finds many orb logos that we can avoid :-).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Thanks for pointing this out. It is so important to avoid these
+situations without clear copyright ownership. Let's all not forget the
+Mandrake-Mandriva change of names.
+
+I remove my vote for this logo for obvious reasons, unless the copyright
+is clearly set straight.
+
+Marc
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+<PRE>The second is here...
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+<A HREF="http://psd.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tutorials-effects/create-a-magic-crystal-ball/">http://psd.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tutorials-effects/create-a-magic-crystal-ball/</A>
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+<PRE> Le 19/09/2010 17:55, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;<i> inspiration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in
+</I>&gt;<i> kmenu button etc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>The first picture is magic !! I like this.
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+<PRE>* Matthew Dawkins (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mattydaw at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Olivier Thauvin &lt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Idk if this is of any interest to you guys, but at Unity Linux we have a
+</I>&gt;<i> devel server central to everything that syncs with ibiblio thru a series of
+</I>&gt;<i> scripts. Then we have ~20 other sites that rsync with ibiblio on a regular
+</I>&gt;<i> basis. Ibiblio is a great mirror to use b/c by default there are already
+</I>&gt;<i> several other sites mirroring it.
+</I>
+I keep a note of this, it could a way to immediatly have a propagation.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then we have a mirror monitoring system that reports the status of the
+</I>&gt;<i> mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html">http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html</A>
+</I>
+By the way, you can add:
+
+<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/unity/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/unity/</A>
+<A HREF="ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/unity/">ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/unity/</A>
+<A HREF="rsync://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/unity/">rsync://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/unity/</A>
+
+But this is out of topic here :)
+
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+<PRE>I still like the design. Even if we can't take this one (as I see, we can't).
+I think it's going into the right direction.
+
+Oliver
+
+Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;
+&gt;<i> Le 2010-09-19 13:25, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 19/09/2010 16:55,Dimitrios Glentadakis nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The concept is great ...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ... but we should be careful about this particular orb:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.webdesign.org/photoshop/drawing-techniques/create-a-magic-orb.">http://www.webdesign.org/photoshop/drawing-techniques/create-a-magic-orb.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 15800.html
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Google also finds many orb logos that we can avoid :-).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for pointing this out. It is so important to avoid these
+</I>&gt;<i> situations without clear copyright ownership. Let's all not forget the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandrake-Mandriva change of names.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I remove my vote for this logo for obvious reasons, unless the copyright
+</I>&gt;<i> is clearly set straight.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
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+<PRE>Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!
+Beautiful concept for website.
+<A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</A>
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+2010/9/19 VARVOU Jean Michel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jeanmichel.varvou at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 17:55, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;<i> inspiration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu
+</I>&gt;<i> button etc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.orghttps</A>://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The first picture is magic !! I like this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+Filipe Saraiva
+**************************************
+Meu blog: <A HREF="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</A>
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+&gt;<i> I teach at a school board and advise on the IT team committee,
+</I>&gt;<i> on that committee very few members know what Usenet is all
+</I>&gt;<i> about;
+</I>
+An ideal place for some education on Usenet, then?!
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+<PRE>On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le 2010-09-19 12:40, Renaud MICHEL a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On dimanche 19 septembre 2010 at 13:19, Maarten Vanraes wrote :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in my pov games are an important element of the targeted public.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I agree, games are an important part of the experience people expect from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> their computer (even I, being a geek and programmer, agree with that,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> although I have too few spare time for that ;-) ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And there are now many great free (either as in beer or speach) games for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Linux that should be promoted. (I see frequently announces for such games on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> linuxfr.org).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But maybe all those big games should be placed in their own, separate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> repository, so that people using the distribution for work (like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> enterprises) could easily mirror the main repository but skipping that one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (which could quickly weight tens of GiB with all those great games available
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> out there).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just like it is already done with the non-free repository for those who want
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> only a really free OS.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just a personal thought.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree. The Mdv systems I have installed, the owners would not have been interested in games and most are using it for work purposes (from their homes). I agree also that the most basic of games should still be included (the ones installed from Mandriva are fine) and a separate repo for the games be made available.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>
+At BlogDrake, we have a successful Games area (juegos)
+
+<A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/documentacion/juegosdrake">http://blogdrake.net/documentacion/juegosdrake</A>
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
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+<PRE>On 2010-09-19 at 18:38 Marc said:
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+&gt;<i> I am also on the Mandriva news group and considering the
+</I>&gt;<i> amount of people who use Mandriva, very few seem to make use
+</I>&gt;<i> of the group, and in contrast, the Mandriva forums were
+</I>&gt;<i> pretty active
+</I>
+ I tried following the Mandriva fora but found they were a
+sprawl - unfocussed and impersonal compared with the newsgroup,
+which has helped solve all my problems.
+ Indeed, were it not for that excellent newsgroup, I would
+probably have abandoned Mandriva long ago...
+
+&gt;<i> and the official reps/moderators were at least
+</I>&gt;<i> there to listen and respond. I don't believe that any
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva rep. was ever on the news group
+</I>
+ True - they were sheltering in the Mandriva fora!
+--
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia greek community">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com
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+<PRE>On 19 September 2010 07:31, Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> The url <A HREF="http://www.mageia-gr.org">http://www.mageia-gr.org</A> from now points to mandrivalinux.gr and
+</I>&gt;<i> will be the internet address of Mageia greek community
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+Great news!
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Matthew Dawkins &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mattydaw at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Olivier Thauvin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As soon we'll have a kind of infrastructure and making the distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> will start we'll need a way to distribute it.
+</I>&gt;<i> So to be ready as soon as possible I start here a discuss about the
+</I>&gt;<i> mirror management and will make some suggestion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nothing is done at time, so feel free to comment.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) The mirror content:
+</I>&gt;<i> - distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> - devel one
+</I>&gt;<i> - stable one
+</I>&gt;<i> Idk if this is of any interest to you guys, but at Unity Linux we have a devel server central to everything that syncs with ibiblio thru a series of scripts. Then we have ~20 other sites that rsync with ibiblio on a regular basis. Ibiblio is a great mirror to use b/c by default there are already several other sites mirroring it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then we have a mirror monitoring system that reports the status of the mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html">http://unity-linux.org/mm/mirrorstatus.html</A>
+</I>
++1 to ibiblio.
+
+Does anyone have a contact with ibiblio?
+
+I used to know some guys in there, a few years ago. I still have a shell account in there.
+
+So if we have no current contacts, I can try to find someone at ibiblio.
+
+Salut,
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+<PRE>I could never made by myself a graphic with this quality
+i'm sorry if you thought that but as i said i am not good to make graphics,
+i only wanted to give an inspiration about the magic crystal as theme.
+
+I'd like to add as text in the graphics this which we see in the irc:
+&quot;...the magic continues !&quot;
+
+
+
+2010/9/19 Filipe Saraiva &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">filip.saraiva at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!
+</I>&gt;<i> Beautiful concept for website.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 VARVOU Jean Michel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jeanmichel.varvou at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 17:55, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> inspiration
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> button etc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.orghttps</A>://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The first picture is magic !! I like this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Filipe Saraiva
+</I>&gt;<i> **************************************
+</I>&gt;<i> Meu blog: <A HREF="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> &#8220;Voc&#234; deve ser a mudan&#231;a que deseja ver no mundo.&#8221; - Gandhi
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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 06:54:28PM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+&gt;<i> Feel free to comment. I'll be carrefully reading this thread !
+</I>
+The following is pretty interesting:
+<A HREF="http://mirrorbrain.org/">http://mirrorbrain.org/</A>
+
+The server you run this from should have a good connection though. It
+automatically monitors the mirrors for freshness, and only redirects if
+the files are available. Small files can be configured to be served
+directly from the main machine.
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+Regards,
+Olav
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+<PRE>OMG!! It's a great mockup! :O
+
+Thanks Nuno ;)
+
+----- Mensaje original -----
+De: Nuno Pinheiro
+Enviado: 19-09-10 18:56
+Para: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+Asunto: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+
+wanted to present my idea, somthing fastly made today <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png well the idea is very simple and revolves around the fonts, and its outline so for exmaple in a educational stand point would be somthing like the colorfull version on the banner on a buisness like presentation a gray solid color on a desktop version plain blue etc etc... please cc me :) -- oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+<PRE>On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Filipe Saraiva &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">filip.saraiva at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!
+</I>&gt;<i> Beautiful concept for website.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</A>
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+Most excellent *original* artwork!!!
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+<PRE>Op zondag 19 september 2010 18:30:07 schreef Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n:
+&gt;<i> Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:14:43 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op zondag 19 september 2010 17:57:54 schreef Jan Ciger:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; which IMHO means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly alienate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the Mandriva userbase.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; That is one thing, but more importantly - what is wrong with urpmi? I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; think that out of rpm-based package managers it is one of the best.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Jan
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it is the best package manager. however everything can improve and i am
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; having some small improvement ideas, but those are for a later time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like downgrading packages as smart can do it ?
+</I>
+urpmi can do that too
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+&gt;<i> Maurice skrev 19.9.2010 20:17:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 2010-09-19 at 14:33 I said:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unfortunately, ISP's are in the habit of dropping Usenet
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> access these days.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some are cutting costs, but there are still several (free) NNTP
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> servers available, including my ISP's.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> well the Mageia lists have been submitted to Gmane, so they will be accessible through nntp.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And since Gmane has the ML &lt;-&gt; NNTP bridge covered, you can post wich ever way you want.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Awesome!
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+Salut,
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+</I>&gt;<i> Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!
+</I>&gt;<i> Beautiful concept for website.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</A>&gt;
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+ <B>patrick.2</B>
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+Filipe Saraiva &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">filip.saraiva at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Great Nuno Pinheiro, the KDE Oxygen guy!
+</I>&gt;<i> Beautiful concept for website.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png</A>
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+ Nice ;)
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+<PRE>Le 19/09/2010 19:25, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> The concept is great ...
+</I>&gt;<i> ... but we should be careful about this particular orb:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.webdesign.org/photoshop/drawing-techniques/create-a-magic-orb.15800.html">http://www.webdesign.org/photoshop/drawing-techniques/create-a-magic-orb.15800.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Google also finds many orb logos that we can avoid :-).
+</I>
+Ouch. Thanks for watchfulness !
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+ <B>Alaa Elian</B>
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+<PRE>What about a logo of a magic wand. I use the following link just as a demo
+<A HREF="http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg">http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg</A>
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+ <B>isadora</B>
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+<PRE>Not my choice, sorry.
+
+2010/9/19 Alaa Elian &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">alaaelian at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> What about a logo of a magic wand. I use the following link just as a demo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg">http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+ <B>Lawrence A Fossi</B>
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+<PRE>I want to be clear I wasn't suggesting replacing urpmi..more of a concern that one or more of the dev's onboard can maintain/improve on it over time. :) and was offing a possible alternative if not.
+Once Mageia is rolling along I'd like to see some enhancements for the gui in the mcc like Smart offers.. downgrading, locking packages, the ability
+to see the other packages(even if older) not just the current and possible upgrade. I know you can hunt down the urpmi skip list and edit it manually
+or downgrade through the cli but neither is beginner friendly.. Also the information in easy to read tabs you can see the full dependencies, what if replaces what it needs.. Again that info is retrievable from the cli...gui not so much.
+----- Original Message -----
+From: &quot;Maarten Vanraes&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 1:29:01 PM
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+
+Op zondag 19 september 2010 18:30:07 schreef Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n:
+&gt;<i> Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:14:43 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op zondag 19 september 2010 17:57:54 schreef Jan Ciger:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; which IMHO means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly alienate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the Mandriva userbase.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; That is one thing, but more importantly - what is wrong with urpmi? I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; think that out of rpm-based package managers it is one of the best.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Jan
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it is the best package manager. however everything can improve and i am
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; having some small improvement ideas, but those are for a later time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like downgrading packages as smart can do it ?
+</I>
+urpmi can do that too
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 18:29:22, SinnerBOFH a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just created the following accounts, to avoid cyber-squatting:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">MageiaLinux at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">MageiaLinux at yahoo.com</A> (with associated Mageia Linux Flickr account)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">MageiaLinux at Hotmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi,
+
+Just remember, there is no &quot;Mageia Linux&quot;, the project is just &quot;Mageia&quot; ;)
+
+Fredxx
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+ <B>Nuno Pinheiro</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C201009191852.01406.nuno%40oxygen-icons.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">nuno at oxygen-icons.org
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+<PRE>second version i will repeat the colors on the font s are just an example
+usage, the idea is that the fonts outlines is the logo, they serve as a
+container of anything
+<A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png
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+please cc me :)
+--
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+ <B>isadora</B>
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+<PRE>Got a 404!
+
+2010/9/19 Nuno Pinheiro &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nuno at oxygen-icons.org</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> second version i will repeat the colors on the font s are just an example
+</I>&gt;<i> usage, the idea is that the fonts outlines is the logo, they serve as a
+</I>&gt;<i> container of anything
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please cc me :)
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+--
+Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.
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+ <B>Malcer Quaid</B>
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+<PRE>Very beaufitul! I LOVE the KMenu icon! ^^
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+----- Mensaje original -----
+De: Nuno Pinheiro
+Enviado: 19-09-10 19:52
+Para: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+Asunto: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
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+second version i will repeat the colors on the font s are just an example usage, the idea is that the fonts outlines is the logo, they serve as a container of anything <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png please cc me :) -- oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+ <B>Tux99</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Alaa Elian wrote:
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+&gt;<i> What about a logo of a magic wand. I use the following link just as a demo
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg">http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+That's similar to the one I created and posted earlier:
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxtech.net/files/mageia-logo-draft1.jpg">http://www.linuxtech.net/files/mageia-logo-draft1.jpg</A>
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+<PRE>Op zondag 19 september 2010 20:49:14 schreef Lawrence A Fossi:
+&gt;<i> I want to be clear I wasn't suggesting replacing urpmi..more of a concern
+</I>&gt;<i> that one or more of the dev's onboard can maintain/improve on it over
+</I>&gt;<i> time. :) and was offing a possible alternative if not. Once Mageia is
+</I>&gt;<i> rolling along I'd like to see some enhancements for the gui in the mcc
+</I>&gt;<i> like Smart offers.. downgrading, locking packages, the ability to see the
+</I>&gt;<i> other packages(even if older) not just the current and possible upgrade. I
+</I>&gt;<i> know you can hunt down the urpmi skip list and edit it manually or
+</I>&gt;<i> downgrade through the cli but neither is beginner friendly.. Also the
+</I>&gt;<i> information in easy to read tabs you can see the full dependencies, what
+</I>&gt;<i> if replaces what it needs.. Again that info is retrievable from the
+</I>&gt;<i> cli...gui not so much. ----- Original Message -----
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Maarten Vanraes&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 1:29:01 PM
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Op zondag 19 september 2010 18:30:07 schreef Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:14:43 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Op zondag 19 september 2010 17:57:54 schreef Jan Ciger:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; which IMHO means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; alienate many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Mandriva userbase.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; That is one thing, but more importantly - what is wrong with urpmi? I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; think that out of rpm-based package managers it is one of the best.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Jan
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; it is the best package manager. however everything can improve and i am
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; having some small improvement ideas, but those are for a later time.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Like downgrading packages as smart can do it ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi can do that too
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+it's an idea; but don't forget, tv is also on the list of people with us...
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+IRC channel, I thought I'd bring up this topic in a well, more &quot;intelligent&quot;
+manner. Do we have any opinions on what we should be using for the CMS on
+the Mageia site? WordPress is pretty popular, Drupal is good for making
+communities, Joomla is junk (to me anyway), and TextPattern is rather light.
+So, can we throw out any intelligent thoughts on this manner?
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+ <B>SinnerBOFH</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Google%2C%20yahoo%2C%20Hotmail%20and%20Flickr%20accounts&In-Reply-To=%3CF8D7E9A3-26D3-4D11-AEF2-F59C16DEA6F6%40gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts">sinnerbofh at gmail.com
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 21:20:15 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Mageia accounts were already taken :(
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
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+
+
+On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Fr&#233;d&#233;ric CUIF &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fredux86 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 18:29:22, SinnerBOFH a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just created the following accounts, to avoid cyber-squatting:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">MageiaLinux at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">MageiaLinux at yahoo.com</A> (with associated Mageia Linux Flickr account)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">MageiaLinux at Hotmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just remember, there is no &quot;Mageia Linux&quot;, the project is just &quot;Mageia&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fredxx
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+ <B>Filipe Saraiva</B>
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 21:22:03 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Guys and girls, just decided, and who want to help do your part. Will
+certainly have people who prefer Wordpress or Drupal, but is not going to
+discuss it forever. List the advantages and disadvantages of each and picks
+the one that best meets our needs.
+
+2010/9/19 Lirodon &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">superfox436 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Okay, after I melted my brain with an argument over self-made CMS's on the
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC channel, I thought I'd bring up this topic in a well, more &quot;intelligent&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> manner. Do we have any opinions on what we should be using for the CMS on
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mageia site? WordPress is pretty popular, Drupal is good for making
+</I>&gt;<i> communities, Joomla is junk (to me anyway), and TextPattern is rather light.
+</I>&gt;<i> So, can we throw out any intelligent thoughts on this manner?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shawn
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--
+Filipe Saraiva
+**************************************
+Meu blog: <A HREF="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</A>
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+Associa&#231;&#227;o Piauiense de Software Livre
+Projeto Software Livre - Piau&#237; - PSL-PI
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+ <B>Bernard Siaud alias Troumad</B>
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+<PRE> Hello
+
+I come here because I like my Mandriva. I can found besser : this month,
+I have tested Debian, OpenSuse or Fedora because I was afraid for Mandriva.
+I now, for me, the new name of Mandriva is Mageia. Isn't it ?
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20FSF%20backing%20would%20be%20a%20huge%20boost%20for%20Mageia&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dqb95RFv%3D1BKcoqxfGVtEfOeatV9jD7c8UFoW8%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>2010/9/19 Anshul Jain &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">anshulajain at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> I fully agree. Usability has to triumph over ideology. Adhering to the FSF
+</I>&gt;<i> guidelines will needlessly shackle the distro into ideological issues.
+</I>&gt;<i> Something we can do without.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we need to come out with a charter, manifesto of some sorts that
+</I>&gt;<i> defines the target of the distro. I have noticed many questioning the
+</I>&gt;<i> existence of Mageia...considering the plethora of options available...like
+</I>&gt;<i> Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian etc. Fedora has the the bleeding edge, Ubuntu has the
+</I>&gt;<i> refined and polished look while Debian has its ideological purity of DFSG.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I just wanted to hear what community has to say about it. Looks like
+nobody wants ideological purity. Like Anshul mentioned, probably a
+manifesto of what Mageia wants to be is a good idea.
+
+Praveen
+--
+&#3370;&#3405;&#3376;&#3381;&#3392;&#3363;&#3405;&#8205; &#3333;&#3376;&#3391;&#3374;&#3405;&#3370;&#3405;&#3376;&#3364;&#3405;&#3364;&#3402;&#3359;&#3391;&#3375;&#3391;&#3378;&#3405;&#8205;
+You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your
+rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as
+they follow the rules: laws and constitution.
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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
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+<PRE>On 19 September 2010 20:07, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Alaa Elian wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What about a logo of a magic wand. I use the following link just as a demo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg">http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's similar to the one I created and posted earlier:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxtech.net/files/mageia-logo-draft1.jpg">http://www.linuxtech.net/files/mageia-logo-draft1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>
+I don't like the idea of wands too much, its just too expected,
+although creative uses of the word magic seem to work well, and Nuno's
+design was very nice.
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+ <B>Bernard Siaud alias Troumad</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] French Traduction">liste at siaud.org
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+<PRE> Hello
+
+I have translate in January &quot;man xrandr&quot; in french :
+<A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=102217&amp;start=21">http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=102217&amp;start=21</A> or
+<A HREF="http://www.developpez.net/forums/d662316/systemes/linux/contribuez/man-traduction-language-man-xrandr/">http://www.developpez.net/forums/d662316/systemes/linux/contribuez/man-traduction-language-man-xrandr/</A>
+It not in Mandriva 2010.1 :(
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+I'd like to begin to translate into French codeblocks. But I've never
+done anything like that.
+I need Help !
+
+Bernard SIAUD Alias Troumad
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+<PRE>First of all excuse me for my English.
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+I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the future.
+Why?
+Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and benefits from
+recent versions of software.
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+Now on libraries, xorg etc.... it may very well release a new version for
+inclusion.
+So imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the software
+most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is equivalent to
+ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).
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+So I think it would be nice to create a repository &quot;rolling release&quot;
+containing software commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea,
+thunderbird, mplayer.
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+As you will not break the system because no library, xorg etc. will be
+updated.
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++1 repository &quot;rolling release&quot; commonly used for software (vlc, smplayer
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+<PRE>Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:29:01 +0200
+Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
+
+&gt;<i> Op zondag 19 september 2010 18:30:07 schreef Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:14:43 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Op zondag 19 september 2010 17:57:54 schreef Jan Ciger:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Lawrence, I can't speak for the devs but my understanding is that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia will keep everything that makes Mandriva unique and great,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; which IMHO means more than anything else urpmi and the draktools.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; If Mageia starts to change these things then it will quickly alienate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; many users. Continuity is crucial to take over the Mandriva userbase.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; That is one thing, but more importantly - what is wrong with urpmi? I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; think that out of rpm-based package managers it is one of the best.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Jan
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; it is the best package manager. however everything can improve and i am
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; having some small improvement ideas, but those are for a later time.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Like downgrading packages as smart can do it ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi can do that too
+</I>
+I mean drakrpm like in smart-gui
+
+--
+A.Sala&#252;n
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+ <B>Pacho Ramos</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">pacho at condmat1.ciencias.uniovi.es
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+<PRE>El dom, 19-09-2010 a las 21:43 +0300, Alaa Elian escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> What about a logo of a magic wand. I use the following link just as a demo
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg">http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+Have you think about making a logo based on a triskelion? It can be
+connected with &quot;magic&quot; and each spiral could represent mageia community
+as described in <A HREF="http://mageia.org/">http://mageia.org/</A> (users, makers, advocates)
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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Doing my little bit">watersnowrock at gmail.com
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+<PRE>Not many of you will know me, but I was active in the MDV forums for a
+year or so, and started to contribute as a packager but work got in
+the way. I have just started back at Uni so I have more time again and
+would love to help maintaining a few packages, although I feel I would
+be more useful on the artwork side of things, some of you may have
+heard of the Mandriva background project, I would be more than happy
+to set something up like that for Mageia, and do the &quot;Offical&quot;
+screensavers and wallpapers, splash and plymouth themes.
+
+Cant wait to get this started and see where it can go.
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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 21:41:14, HacKurx a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> First of all excuse me for my English.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the future.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>&gt;<i> Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and benefits from
+</I>&gt;<i> recent versions of software.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now on libraries, xorg etc.... it may very well release a new version for
+</I>&gt;<i> inclusion.
+</I>&gt;<i> So imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the software
+</I>&gt;<i> most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is equivalent to
+</I>&gt;<i> ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I think it would be nice to create a repository &quot;rolling release&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> containing software commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea,
+</I>&gt;<i> thunderbird, mplayer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you will not break the system because no library, xorg etc. will be
+</I>&gt;<i> updated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1 repository &quot;rolling release&quot; commonly used for software (vlc, smplayer
+</I>&gt;<i> etc ...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I have no experience with rolling releases, but as I hope that Mageia will, like Mandriva Linux, remain suitable for desktop, server, and enterprise use. So I really hope each version will be stable, maintained and thoroughly tested. I'm not sure that a rolling release permits that.
+
+Regards
+
+Samuel
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+ <B>Lirodon</B>
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+<PRE>Okay, here's some of my comparisons in my opinion:
+
+WordPress
+-Good at content
+-Primarily intended for blogging, but can be used as a general purpose CMS
+too.
+-Rather popular
+-Open source
+-Good functionality without addons
+-Easy to use administration interface
+-Some advanced functions depend on theme coding
+
+Drupal
+-Good at organizing content and communities
+-Has no clear intended use.
+-Rather popular
+-Open source
+-Requires a large number of modules to be useful.
+-A little harder to administrate, but rather powerful.
+
+TextPattern
+-Very light, yet rather powerful
+-Primarily intended for blogging, but can be used as a general purpose CMS
+too.
+-Nice article system
+-Open source
+-Admin UI is a little plain and takes some getting used to, but it works
+nicely.
+
+Joomla
+-Rather popular
+-Open source
+-Complete junk in my mind. Avoid at all costs.
+
+Shawn
+
+
+On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Filipe Saraiva &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">filip.saraiva at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Guys and girls, just decided, and who want to help do your part. Will
+</I>&gt;<i> certainly have people who prefer Wordpress or Drupal, but is not going to
+</I>&gt;<i> discuss it forever. List the advantages and disadvantages of each and
+</I>&gt;<i> picks the one that best meets our needs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Lirodon &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">superfox436 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Okay, after I melted my brain with an argument over self-made CMS's on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IRC channel, I thought I'd bring up this topic in a well, more &quot;intelligent&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> manner. Do we have any opinions on what we should be using for the CMS on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the Mageia site? WordPress is pretty popular, Drupal is good for making
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> communities, Joomla is junk (to me anyway), and TextPattern is rather light.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, can we throw out any intelligent thoughts on this manner?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Shawn
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Filipe Saraiva
+</I>&gt;<i> **************************************
+</I>&gt;<i> Meu blog: <A HREF="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Associa&#231;&#227;o Piauiense de Software Livre
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+ <B>Florian Hubold</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">doktor5000 at arcor.de
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+<PRE> Am 19.09.2010 19:52, schrieb Nuno Pinheiro:
+&gt;<i> second version i will repeat the colors on the font s are just an example
+</I>&gt;<i> usage, the idea is that the fonts outlines is the logo, they serve as a
+</I>&gt;<i> container of anything
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please cc me :)
+</I>Nuno Pinheiro FTW! :)
+Really professional proposal for the website,
+maybe you can do a mockup for a logo/symbol, too?
+And many thanks for your works!
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+<PRE>Le 19/09/2010 20:03,Pacho Ramos nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> El dom, 19-09-2010 a las 21:43 +0300, Alaa Elian escribi&#243;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What about a logo of a magic wand. I use the following link just as a demo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg">http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/store/images/products/fs010-cartoon-magic-wand.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Have you think about making a logo based on a triskelion? It can be
+</I>&gt;<i> connected with &quot;magic&quot; and each spiral could represent mageia community
+</I>&gt;<i> as described in <A HREF="http://mageia.org/">http://mageia.org/</A> (users, makers, advocates)
+</I>
+Do you mean like that?
+
+<A HREF="http://trisquel.info/">http://trisquel.info/</A>
+
+:<i>-)
+</I>
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+Some of you may remember me from the late days of Mandrakesoft. I was employed as a packager and as a trainer. I have some time available if I can be of some help, please let me know. I also am able to host a mirror/cvs-mirror/etc as may be needed.
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+<PRE>I hope Mageia will be a server suitable distribution, and even be able
+to receive certifications from software companies for their products,
+so a relese system is necessary... But for a desktop version, having a
+rolling versioning system could be affordable
+
+
+Hasta Pronto
+
+--
+&#160;F&#233;lix Martos Trenado
+
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+2010/9/19 Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 21:41:14, HacKurx a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> First of all excuse me for my English.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the future.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and benefits from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> recent versions of software.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now on libraries, xorg etc.... it may very well release a new version for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> inclusion.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the software
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is equivalent to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I think it would be nice to create a repository &quot;rolling release&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> containing software commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thunderbird, mplayer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As you will not break the system because no library, xorg etc. will be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> updated.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +1 repository &quot;rolling release&quot; commonly used for software (vlc, smplayer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> etc ...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have no experience with rolling releases, but as I hope that Mageia will, like Mandriva Linux, remain suitable for desktop, server, and enterprise use. So I really hope each version will be stable, maintained and thoroughly tested. I'm not sure that a rolling release permits that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+ <B>Renaud MICHEL</B>
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+<PRE>On dimanche 19 septembre 2010 at 21:41, HacKurx wrote :
+&gt;<i> Now on libraries, xorg etc.... it may very well release a new version for
+</I>&gt;<i> inclusion.
+</I>&gt;<i> So imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the
+</I>&gt;<i> software most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is
+</I>&gt;<i> equivalent to ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I think it would be nice to create a repository &quot;rolling release&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> containing software commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea,
+</I>&gt;<i> thunderbird, mplayer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you will not break the system because no library, xorg etc. will be
+</I>&gt;<i> updated.
+</I>
+From what I understand, what you describe actually correspond to the
+backports media of the actual mandriva. see
+<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/SoftwareMedia">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/SoftwareMedia</A>
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+<PRE>try arch linux and you will see that it is stable, so if we just do the same
+with a small nomber of software that will make less work for each new stable
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+<PRE>Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:50:07 +0200,
+Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 21:41:14, HacKurx a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; First of all excuse me for my English.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; future. Why?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; benefits from recent versions of software.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Now on libraries, xorg etc.... it may very well release a new
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; version for inclusion.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; software most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; equivalent to ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So I think it would be nice to create a repository &quot;rolling release&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; containing software commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; thunderbird, mplayer.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As you will not break the system because no library, xorg etc. will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be updated.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +1 repository &quot;rolling release&quot; commonly used for software (vlc,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; smplayer etc ...)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have no experience with rolling releases, but as I hope that Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> will, like Mandriva Linux, remain suitable for desktop, server, and
+</I>&gt;<i> enterprise use. So I really hope each version will be stable,
+</I>&gt;<i> maintained and thoroughly tested. I'm not sure that a rolling release
+</I>&gt;<i> permits that.
+</I>
+I think not...
+
+--
+Sandro Cazzaniga
+Bashburn hacker (<A HREF="http://bashburn.dose.se/">http://bashburn.dose.se/</A>)
+Mageia Contributor (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/">http://www.mageia.org/fr/</A>)
+Developer (Perl, Bash, C)
+Vice President, secretary and member of CA of Alolise
+(<A HREF="http://www.alolise.org">http://www.alolise.org</A>)
+Serial Blogger (<A HREF="http://twitter.com/Kharec">http://twitter.com/Kharec</A>)
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+Le 19 sept. 2010 &#224; 21:41, HacKurx a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> First of all excuse me for my English.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the future. Why?
+</I>&gt;<i> Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and benefits from recent versions of software.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now on libraries, xorg etc.... it may very well release a new version for inclusion.
+</I>&gt;<i> So imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the software most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is equivalent to ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I think it would be nice to create a repository &quot;rolling release&quot; containing software commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea, thunderbird, mplayer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you will not break the system because no library, xorg etc. will be updated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1 repository &quot;rolling release&quot; commonly used for software (vlc, smplayer etc ...) _______________________________________________
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+Isn't current mandriva backport exactly what you are talking about?
+
+I use backport for that purpose and it works pretty well.
+
+Daniel
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+ <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B>
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+<PRE>The colors remind me of google..
+
+On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Nuno Pinheiro &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nuno at oxygen-icons.org</A>&gt;wrote:
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+&gt;<i> second version i will repeat the colors on the font s are just an example
+</I>&gt;<i> usage, the idea is that the fonts outlines is the logo, they serve as a
+</I>&gt;<i> container of anything
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please cc me :)
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+etc ...) to the extent it does not break the system.
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+Le 19 sept. 2010 &#224; 22:16, HacKurx a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Add mandriva backport but containing more software (vlc, mplayer, smplayer, etc ...) to the extent it does not break the system.
+</I>&gt;<i> This deposit would be enabled by default in the system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+You can already get those ones on plf
+<A HREF="http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/">http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/</A>
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+<PRE> Hey,
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+cooker was that rolling release for Mandriva. I'm sure there will be something like that for
+Mageia too.
+
+--
+Sander
+
+
+19.09.2010 22:41, HacKurx kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> First of all excuse me for my English.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the future. Why?
+</I>&gt;<i> Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and benefits from recent versions
+</I>&gt;<i> of software.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now on libraries, xorg etc.... it may very well release a new version for inclusion.
+</I>&gt;<i> So imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the software most used to
+</I>&gt;<i> constantly updated in a repository (this is equivalent to ubuntu ppa in some ways but
+</I>&gt;<i> stable and under control).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I think it would be nice to create a repository &quot;rolling release&quot; containing software
+</I>&gt;<i> commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea, thunderbird, mplayer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you will not break the system because no library, xorg etc. will be updated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1 repository &quot;rolling release&quot; commonly used for software (vlc, smplayer etc ...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>Op zondag 19 september 2010 21:50:07 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 21:41:14, HacKurx a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; First of all excuse me for my English.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the future.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Why?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and benefits
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; from recent versions of software.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Now on libraries, xorg etc.... it may very well release a new version for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; inclusion.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; software most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; equivalent to ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So I think it would be nice to create a repository &quot;rolling release&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; containing software commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; thunderbird, mplayer.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As you will not break the system because no library, xorg etc. will be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; updated.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +1 repository &quot;rolling release&quot; commonly used for software (vlc, smplayer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; etc ...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have no experience with rolling releases, but as I hope that Mageia will,
+</I>&gt;<i> like Mandriva Linux, remain suitable for desktop, server, and enterprise
+</I>&gt;<i> use. So I really hope each version will be stable, maintained and
+</I>&gt;<i> thoroughly tested. I'm not sure that a rolling release permits that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+ <B>Jean Peyratout</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">jean.peyratout at abul.org
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+<PRE>Le 19/09/2010 22:17, HacKurx a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> You 404&#8217;d it. Gnarly, dude.
+</I>
+It was &lt;url:<A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png&gt;
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+<PRE>Le 19/09/2010 22:41, Jean Peyratout a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 22:17, HacKurx a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You 404&#8217;d it. Gnarly, dude.
+</I>&gt;<i> It was &lt;url:<A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png&gt;
+</I>
+... no cutting the link ;-)
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+--
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+courriel : <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jean.peyratout at abul.org</A> - t&#233;l. +33 682.059.918
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+ <B>patrick.2</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">patrick.2 at laposte.net
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 22:45:14 CEST 2010</I>
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+Jean Peyratout &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jean.peyratout at abul.org</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> ... no cutting the link ;-)
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png</A>
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+--
+Patrick.
+envoye depuis le monde libre ...
+par un Pc sous Mandriva 2011.0 ( cooker ) !
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Machado</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Should%20Mageia%20have%20linux-libre%20kernel%3F%20Yes%21&In-Reply-To=%3C704900.59656.qm%40web113008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br
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+Now that the distro is starting, it's easier to define the course of the project. We have to make sure we're doing the right thing.
+
+Something to be discussed is whether the distro will follow the guidelines of the FSF and have only free software on it. This is something to be widely discussed: support for the Stallman's group could be very advantageous, but would sacrifice the end user experience. Proprietary software could be placed in a separate repository. Another point is that according GPL, all source code should be available.
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+But something the distro MUST have as an option to the user - that would bring a lot of free software activists for our side - regardless of the choice to be made in relation to this requirement as is the ability to install your kernel linux-libre .
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+Basically, linux-libre is a fork of the Linux kernel maintained by the FSF Latin America that has no binary blobs. Currently, there are very few distros that offer it.
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+I believe he should be in the repositories or on the installation media, where the user can install a system with it by typing something like &quot;install = libre&quot; or something similar at boot time of this media. Of course, we offer regular Linux kernel as default.
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+For more information, see: <A HREF="http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/">http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/</A>
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+ <B>Thomas Lottmann</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Project%20logo%20contest%20definitely%20needs%20a%20dedicated%0A%09page&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9677C3.3050002%40gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE> Hello everyone!
+
+As I have been among the few who were in the networkless countryside, as
+well as with a ten month old little boy, I am just reconnecting to
+numeric reality, including more than 272 mails in my Box.
+
+That quite complicated, in the middle of the mess, there have been
+fantastic submissions and proposals for our brand new logo.
+
+I think that a mailing list is really not a good platform for such a
+contest. We need a dedicated website.
+I think one day we will need a mageia-art.org website, but I am not sure
+it will be available soon to us, our project still has no structure. So
+I think we need to do just like Anne has done for the wallpaper contests
+:<i> open a flickr account to help centralizing all the logo submissions
+</I>and allow comments for each of them to make them better and finally
+decide in a more convenient place.
+
+I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with flickr, but I am
+not. So if someone has the time, I think it would be really helpfull to
+open a dedicated and clear flickr page to submit all the suggested
+logos, and to place a link both in the mailing lists, IRC and website.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Thomas aka Skiper.
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Project%20logo%20contest%20definitely%20needs%20a%0A%20dedicated%20page&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DPwOjSLCqNPvkKBKf8_qnoDOGdGyEUKrkz9t6d%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Hello everyone!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I have been among the few who were in the networkless countryside, as
+</I>&gt;<i> well as with a ten month old little boy, I am just reconnecting to numeric
+</I>&gt;<i> reality, including more than 272 mails in my Box.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That quite complicated, in the middle of the mess, there have been
+</I>&gt;<i> fantastic submissions and proposals for our brand new logo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that a mailing list is really not a good platform for such a
+</I>&gt;<i> contest. We need a dedicated website.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think one day we will need a mageia-art.org website, but I am not sure
+</I>&gt;<i> it will be available soon to us, our project still has no structure. So I
+</I>&gt;<i> think we need to do just like Anne has done for the wallpaper contests :
+</I>&gt;<i> open a flickr account to help centralizing all the logo submissions and
+</I>&gt;<i> allow comments for each of them to make them better and finally decide in a
+</I>&gt;<i> more convenient place.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with flickr, but I am
+</I>&gt;<i> not. So if someone has the time, I think it would be really helpfull to
+</I>&gt;<i> open a dedicated and clear flickr page to submit all the suggested logos,
+</I>&gt;<i> and to place a link both in the mailing lists, IRC and website.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+As a suggestion, why not use flickr account to upload logo proposals ?
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas aka Skiper.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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+&gt;<i> Isn't current mandriva backport exactly what you are talking about?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I use backport for that purpose and it works pretty well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Daniel
+</I>
+My thoughts exactly.
+
+A release system with backports for bleeding edge desktop software (as we have now with Mandriva) is the way to go.
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+<PRE>Rolling releases are fine to users, but many sys admins wouldn't use it on a server, by example.
+
+If,on the one hand, a rolling-release distro would be more economical and easy to mantain for development team, think that neither all user have high speed connections to download the whole system updated at installation time or update packages day to day.
+
+--- Em dom, 19/9/10, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; escreveu:
+
+De: Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+Para: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 17:37
+
+Op zondag 19 september 2010 21:50:07 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 21:41:14, HacKurx a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; First of all excuse me for my English.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the future.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Why?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and benefits
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; from recent versions of software.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Now on libraries, xorg etc.... it may very well release a new version for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; inclusion.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; software most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; equivalent to ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So I think it would be nice to create a repository &quot;rolling release&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; containing software commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; thunderbird, mplayer.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As you will not break the system because no library, xorg etc. will be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; updated.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +1 repository &quot;rolling release&quot; commonly used for software (vlc, smplayer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; etc ...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have no experience with rolling releases, but as I hope that Mageia will,
+</I>&gt;<i> like Mandriva Linux, remain suitable for desktop, server, and enterprise
+</I>&gt;<i> use. So I really hope each version will be stable, maintained and
+</I>&gt;<i> thoroughly tested. I'm not sure that a rolling release permits that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
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+<PRE>My suggestion is made that a technical study of tools and a decision
+consensus among those who will be responsible for installation and service
+maintenance.
+
+For example, the technical report of infrastructure for KDE using git is a
+very good job done by the team of sysadmins. It's technical and exposes why
+that decision was made.
+
+Follow the link for those interested - can to be very useful as an example
+to be followed.
+
+It's a ODT archive:
+<A HREF="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest&amp;m=127612957219466&amp;q=p3">http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest&amp;m=127612957219466&amp;q=p3</A>
+
+Cheers,
+
+2010/9/19 Lirodon &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">superfox436 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Okay, here's some of my comparisons in my opinion:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WordPress
+</I>&gt;<i> -Good at content
+</I>&gt;<i> -Primarily intended for blogging, but can be used as a general purpose CMS
+</I>&gt;<i> too.
+</I>&gt;<i> -Rather popular
+</I>&gt;<i> -Open source
+</I>&gt;<i> -Good functionality without addons
+</I>&gt;<i> -Easy to use administration interface
+</I>&gt;<i> -Some advanced functions depend on theme coding
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Drupal
+</I>&gt;<i> -Good at organizing content and communities
+</I>&gt;<i> -Has no clear intended use.
+</I>&gt;<i> -Rather popular
+</I>&gt;<i> -Open source
+</I>&gt;<i> -Requires a large number of modules to be useful.
+</I>&gt;<i> -A little harder to administrate, but rather powerful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TextPattern
+</I>&gt;<i> -Very light, yet rather powerful
+</I>&gt;<i> -Primarily intended for blogging, but can be used as a general purpose CMS
+</I>&gt;<i> too.
+</I>&gt;<i> -Nice article system
+</I>&gt;<i> -Open source
+</I>&gt;<i> -Admin UI is a little plain and takes some getting used to, but it works
+</I>&gt;<i> nicely.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Joomla
+</I>&gt;<i> -Rather popular
+</I>&gt;<i> -Open source
+</I>&gt;<i> -Complete junk in my mind. Avoid at all costs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shawn
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Filipe Saraiva &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">filip.saraiva at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Guys and girls, just decided, and who want to help do your part. Will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> certainly have people who prefer Wordpress or Drupal, but is not going to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> discuss it forever. List the advantages and disadvantages of each and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> picks the one that best meets our needs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Lirodon &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">superfox436 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Okay, after I melted my brain with an argument over self-made CMS's on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the IRC channel, I thought I'd bring up this topic in a well, more
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;intelligent&quot; manner. Do we have any opinions on what we should be using for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the CMS on the Mageia site? WordPress is pretty popular, Drupal is good for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> making communities, Joomla is junk (to me anyway), and TextPattern is rather
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> light. So, can we throw out any intelligent thoughts on this manner?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Shawn
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Filipe Saraiva
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> **************************************
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Meu blog: <A HREF="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Associa&#231;&#227;o Piauiense de Software Livre
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Projeto Software Livre - Piau&#237; - PSL-PI
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#8220;Voc&#234; deve ser a mudan&#231;a que deseja ver no mundo.&#8221; - Gandhi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>
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+--
+Filipe Saraiva
+**************************************
+Meu blog: <A HREF="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</A>
+
+Associa&#231;&#227;o Piauiense de Software Livre
+Projeto Software Livre - Piau&#237; - PSL-PI
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+ <B>Thomas Lottmann</B>
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+<PRE> Le 19/09/2010 22:53, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello everyone!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I have been among the few who were in the networkless
+</I>&gt;<i> countryside, as well as with a ten month old little boy, I am just
+</I>&gt;<i> reconnecting to numeric reality, including more than 272 mails in
+</I>&gt;<i> my Box.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That quite complicated, in the middle of the mess, there have been
+</I>&gt;<i> fantastic submissions and proposals for our brand new logo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that a mailing list is really not a good platform for such
+</I>&gt;<i> a contest. We need a dedicated website.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think one day we will need a mageia-art.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://mageia-art.org">http://mageia-art.org</A>&gt; website, but I am not sure it will be
+</I>&gt;<i> available soon to us, our project still has no structure. So I
+</I>&gt;<i> think we need to do just like Anne has done for the wallpaper
+</I>&gt;<i> contests : open a flickr account to help centralizing all the logo
+</I>&gt;<i> submissions and allow comments for each of them to make them
+</I>&gt;<i> better and finally decide in a more convenient place.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with flickr, but
+</I>&gt;<i> I am not. So if someone has the time, I think it would be really
+</I>&gt;<i> helpfull to open a dedicated and clear flickr page to submit all
+</I>&gt;<i> the suggested logos, and to place a link both in the mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> lists, IRC and website.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a suggestion, why not use flickr account to upload logo proposals ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas aka Skiper.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>
+This is exactly what I suggested. :-)
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+ <B>David Taylor</B>
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+<PRE>== On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:22:24 -0300 nosXw took the time to write ==
+
+&gt;<i>Another logo by an blogdrake.net user, GualaDrake:
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</A>
+</I>
+Cool........... prefer the bottom left one.
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+.-.-.-.-.-.-.
+
+David
+located at 39.12.08S 173.48.31E
+beneath the Mountain, beside the Sea
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+who uses linux/open source software, featuring
+Mandriva Linux release 2009.1 (Official) for i586
+kernel 2.6.29.6-desktop-3mnb
+08:40:55 up 55 min, 2 users, load average: 1.24, 1.18, 1.11
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 22:53, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello everyone!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As I have been among the few who were in the networkless countryside, as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> well as with a ten month old little boy, I am just reconnecting to numeric
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reality, including more than 272 mails in my Box.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That quite complicated, in the middle of the mess, there have been
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fantastic submissions and proposals for our brand new logo.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think that a mailing list is really not a good platform for such a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contest. We need a dedicated website.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think one day we will need a mageia-art.org website, but I am not sure
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it will be available soon to us, our project still has no structure. So I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> think we need to do just like Anne has done for the wallpaper contests :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> open a flickr account to help centralizing all the logo submissions and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> allow comments for each of them to make them better and finally decide in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> more convenient place.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with flickr, but I am
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not. So if someone has the time, I think it would be really helpfull to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> open a dedicated and clear flickr page to submit all the suggested logos,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and to place a link both in the mailing lists, IRC and website.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a suggestion, why not use flickr account to upload logo proposals ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Oups I need to go to sleep ;)
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas aka Skiper.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is exactly what I suggested. :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Machado</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20domain%20names&In-Reply-To=%3C776694.44182.qm%40web113001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com%3E"
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+<PRE>What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
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+I guess that edu.mageia.org is better...
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+ <B>JOSE-Glasnosh</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Offering help">glasnosh at yahoo.es
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 23:04:03 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Hello everyone
+
+Following the recommendation given to me in '#mageia-dev' I offer my support for this project.
+
+I work as a Linux systems administrator for some time. Also perhaps I could get some hardware and bandwidth to host services for 'mageia'.
+
+If you are interested in my assistance in this area, I am at your disposal.
+
+Greetings
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] domain names">marc at marcpare.com
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 23:06:47 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-19 17:00, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> A.Sala&#252;n
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess that edu.mageia.org is better...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>I would suggest that website domains start as much as possible with
+mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People will remember the brand
+more easily that way. Let's make it easy for people to find the distro.
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+ <B>Erwan Velu</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Making this list more efficient">erwanaliasr1 at gmail.com
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 23:10:52 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Hey folks,
+
+We are facing a strong and impressive involvement regarding mageia's
+creation.
+The mailing list traffic is quite strong and somehow, difficult to follow.
+
+I would like emphasing an important point to keep posts easy to read.
+When you answer someone's email, please replace all the unnecessary
+comments by something like &quot; [...] &quot;.
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+That could looks like:
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+-----------------------------------
+&gt;<i> Mr A said :
+</I>&gt;<i> What about making this or that ?
+</I>
+[....]
+
+Agree on that point because I think that ...
+-----------------------------------
+
+That makes emails shorter, easier to read &amp; to understood.
+
+More generally, please read the Netiquette: so many interesting things
+to read.
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette</A>
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+Cheers,
+Erwan
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 23:11:59 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On 19 September 2010 02:32, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> If you want some sysadmin assistance, I can help out. I'm one of the
+</I>&gt;<i> GNOME sysadmins, see <A HREF="http://live.gnome.org/SysadminTeam.">http://live.gnome.org/SysadminTeam.</A> I have
+</I>&gt;<i> experience with Bugzilla, Python, LDAP, etc. However, I never helped on
+</I>&gt;<i> infrastructure side of Mandriva (only triaged many years back).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One think I noticed is the self-signed certificate. Note that a free
+</I>&gt;<i> certificate for <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</A> can easily be created via
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.startssl.com/.">https://www.startssl.com/.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For Mageia hosting, GNOME has one server and a VM @ osuosl.org. Though
+</I>&gt;<i> we don't use that machine much, I still have a very positive impression
+</I>&gt;<i> about the hosting (plus it is free:).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>
+Thanks for the support. :)
+
+Good point about the certificate, I hope the web guys will take under
+advisement.
+
+&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Machado</B>
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+<PRE>Whell, then we can use something like:
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+www.mageia.org/edu
+www.mageia.org/kde
+
+and so on...
+
+--- Em dom, 19/9/10, Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; escreveu:
+
+De: Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;
+Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] domain names
+Para: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:06
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+ Le 2010-09-19 17:00, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit&#160;:
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+ What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
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+--
+A.Sala&#252;n
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+I guess that edu.mageia.org is better...
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+ I would suggest that website domains start as much as possible with
+ mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People will remember the
+ brand more easily that way. Let's make it easy for people to find
+ the distro.
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+ Marc
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+ <B>St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/19 Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Le 2010-09-19 17:00, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> A.Sala&#252;n
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess that edu.mageia.org is better...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.orghttps</A>://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would suggest that website domains start as much as possible with
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People will remember the brand more
+</I>&gt;<i> easily that way. Let's make it easy for people to find the distro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>xxx.mageia.org seems better, see:
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+<A HREF="http://doc.ubuntu.com/">http://doc.ubuntu.com/</A>
+<A HREF="https://help.ubuntu.com/">https://help.ubuntu.com/</A>
+<A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/</A>
+<A HREF="http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/">http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/</A>
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+<A HREF="http://docs.fedoraproject.org">http://docs.fedoraproject.org</A>
+<A HREF="http://planet.fedoraproject.org/">http://planet.fedoraproject.org/</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://software.opensuse.org">http://software.opensuse.org</A>
+<A HREF="https://build.opensuse.org/">https://build.opensuse.org/</A>
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page">marc at marcpare.com
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-19 16:39, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> When you go to <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org,">http://www.mageia.org,</A> you go to the project website,
+</I>&gt;<i> but when you type <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</A> you go to a page entitled
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Welcome to zarb.org&quot;. This occurs mainly when leaving mail-list
+</I>&gt;<i> options page. I guess what should be fixed because can cause confusion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>You also get strange results if you type in <A HREF="http://www.mageia.nl,">http://www.mageia.nl,</A>
+<A HREF="http://mageia.nl;">http://mageia.nl;</A> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.nl">https://www.mageia.nl</A> and finally <A HREF="http://mageia.nl">http://mageia.nl</A> .
+Sorry I deleted the email where the owner of the mageia.nl owner
+announced the site offered a link to the official mageia.org site. Some
+of these lead to the zarb.org site.
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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org
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+<PRE>* Andr&#233; Machado (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> When you go to <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org,">http://www.mageia.org,</A> you go to the project website, but when you type <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</A> you go to a page entitled &quot;Welcome to zarb.org&quot;. This occurs mainly when leaving mail-list options page. I guess what should be fixed because can cause confusion.
+</I>
+It should but it cannot since we have only one IP on the server and
+SSL vhost works only with multiple IP.
+
+&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS - LATMOS
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Machado</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 23:26:22 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>I hope that these issues can be solved when distro have your own datacenter or dedicated server. Btw, this is CRITICAL for now!
+
+At the future, once solved the issue about edu,mageia.org or mageia.org/edu, maybe centralize all worldwide sites in only one place, with domains just pointing to your right page.
+
+Suggestions and examples:
+
+If edu.mageia.org be addopted, we can create something like www.mageia.org/pt-br for Brazil Portuguese website version and edu.mageia.org/pt-br would be the edu.mageia.org portuguese version of that page. Thus, www.mageia.com.br would points to mageia,org/edu.
+
+&#160;If we would convince all worldwide site maintaners to do it, the whole thing would be more organized and economical, because they wouldn't pay for a host.
+
+I guess what Mandriva website is tis way.
+
+--- Em dom, 19/9/10, Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; escreveu:
+
+De: Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;
+Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+Para: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:17
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+ Le 2010-09-19 16:39, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit&#160;:
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+ when you type <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</A> you go to a page
+ entitled &quot;Welcome to zarb.org&quot;. This occurs mainly when
+ leaving mail-list options page. I guess what should be
+ fixed because can cause confusion.
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+
+
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+
+
+
+ &#160;
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+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+ You also get strange results if you type in <A HREF="http://www.mageia.nl,">http://www.mageia.nl,</A>
+ <A HREF="http://mageia.nl;">http://mageia.nl;</A> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.nl">https://www.mageia.nl</A> and finally <A HREF="http://mageia.nl">http://mageia.nl</A>
+ . Sorry I deleted the email where the owner of the mageia.nl owner
+ announced the site offered a link to the official mageia.org site.
+ Some of these lead to the zarb.org site.
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+
+ Marc
+
+
+
+-----Anexo incorporado-----
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/19 Andr&#233; Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> I hope that these issues can be solved when distro have your own datacenter
+</I>&gt;<i> or dedicated server. Btw, this is CRITICAL for now!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>This will be solved indeed. For now many thanks to plf team who is managing
+hosting for mageia
+
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+
+&gt;<i> At the future, once solved the issue about edu,mageia.org or
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia.org/edu, maybe centralize all worldwide sites in only one place,
+</I>&gt;<i> with domains just pointing to your right page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Suggestions and examples:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If edu.mageia.org be addopted, we can create something like
+</I>&gt;<i> www.mageia.org/pt-br for Brazil Portuguese website version and
+</I>&gt;<i> edu.mageia.org/pt-br would be the edu.mageia.org portuguese version of
+</I>&gt;<i> that page. Thus, www.mageia.com.br would points to mageia,org/edu.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we would convince all worldwide site maintaners to do it, the whole
+</I>&gt;<i> thing would be more organized and economical, because they wouldn't pay for
+</I>&gt;<i> a host.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess what Mandriva website is tis way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --- Em *dom, 19/9/10, Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;* escreveu:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> De: Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</I>&gt;<i> Para: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:17
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 2010-09-19 16:39, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When you go to <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org,">http://www.mageia.org,</A> you go to the project website, but
+</I>&gt;<i> when you type <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</A> you go to a page entitled &quot;Welcome
+</I>&gt;<i> to zarb.org&quot;. This occurs mainly when leaving mail-list options page. I
+</I>&gt;<i> guess what should be fixed because can cause confusion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listMageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> &lt;<A HREF="http://mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">http://mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</A>&gt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You also get strange results if you type in <A HREF="http://www.mageia.nl,">http://www.mageia.nl,</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.nl;">http://mageia.nl;</A> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.nl">https://www.mageia.nl</A> and finally <A HREF="http://mageia.nl">http://mageia.nl</A> .
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry I deleted the email where the owner of the mageia.nl owner announced
+</I>&gt;<i> the site offered a link to the official mageia.org site. Some of these
+</I>&gt;<i> lead to the zarb.org site.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -----Anexo incorporado-----
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> &lt;<A HREF="http://mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">http://mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+<PRE>Op zondag 19 september 2010 23:18:39 schreef Olivier Thauvin:
+&gt;<i> * Andr&#233; Machado (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When you go to <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org,">http://www.mageia.org,</A> you go to the project website, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; when you type <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</A> you go to a page entitled &quot;Welcome
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to zarb.org&quot;. This occurs mainly when leaving mail-list options page. I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; guess what should be fixed because can cause confusion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should but it cannot since we have only one IP on the server and
+</I>&gt;<i> SSL vhost works only with multiple IP.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>
+not anymore, since there's an extension(SNI or something) that can have
+multiple SSL vhosts (doesn't work for IE in win XP)
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+ <B>Julien DAL</B>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+Or :
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+http(s)://edu.mageia.org
+http(s)://kde.mageia.org
+
+Much better ... ;)
+
+
+On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:13:30 -0700 (PDT)
+Andr&#233; Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Whell, then we can use something like:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> www.mageia.org/edu
+</I>&gt;<i> www.mageia.org/kde
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and so on...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --- Em dom, 19/9/10, Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; escreveu:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> De: Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</I>&gt;<i> Para: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:06
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 2010-09-19 17:00, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit&#160;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Thomas Lottmann</B>
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+<PRE> As I am also following this fork, I would also like to offer my help.
+
+I have quite a lot of experience on MediaWiki (for having worked a lot
+on the Mandriva wiki). Perhaps I will be able to work there. But I would
+like ot help anywhere I can be useful.
+
+If possible, please also add me to the list :
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+ * Thomas Lottmann (Skiper) - French Users community
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+<PRE>Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:14:29 +0200
+St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">steletch at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
+
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 2010-09-19 17:00, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; A.Sala&#252;n
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I guess that edu.mageia.org is better...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.orghttps</A>://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I would suggest that website domains start as much as possible with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People will remember the brand more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; easily that way. Let's make it easy for people to find the distro.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Marc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> xxx.mageia.org seems better, see:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://doc.ubuntu.com/">http://doc.ubuntu.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://help.ubuntu.com/">https://help.ubuntu.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/">http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://docs.fedoraproject.org">http://docs.fedoraproject.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.fedoraproject.org/">http://planet.fedoraproject.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://software.opensuse.org">http://software.opensuse.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://build.opensuse.org/">https://build.opensuse.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Stef
+</I>
+Why not ?
+Perhaps just a native langage influence finally.
+
+
+--
+A.Sala&#252;n
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Machado</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br
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+<PRE>I suggest what 1st Mageia version be called &quot;Xavante&quot;
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+Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the distro was not ahead.
+
+Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename was adopted and would recognize the Brazilians what are part of Mandriva operatting system and, now, from Mageia operatting system.
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+<PRE>Le 19/09/2010 23:29, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> not anymore, since there's an extension(SNI or something) that can have
+</I>&gt;<i> multiple SSL vhosts (doesn't work for IE in win XP)
+</I>That's true, and I just fixed the issue. Not however you have to trust
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+ <B>Thomas Lottmann</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion">skiperdrake at gmail.com
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+<PRE> Le 19/09/2010 23:40, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I suggest what 1st Mageia version be called &quot;Xavante&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro Conectiva
+</I>&gt;<i> was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some
+</I>&gt;<i> Conectiva users tried to create a fork called Xavante - just like is
+</I>&gt;<i> happening now-, but the distro was not ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename was adopted
+</I>&gt;<i> and would recognize the Brazilians as part of Mandriva operatting
+</I>&gt;<i> system and, now, from Mageia operating system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more symbolic
+name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even for people that are
+not inside the community. Sadly Xavante will not mean anything for
+people from outside, that's why a much more powerful name would be
+better to have a great meaning (and why not link it to the artwork?
+Well, that'll be to determine in the future).
+
+Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the pre-releases of the
+first stable release for Mageia could be really nice.
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+ <B>vfmBOFH</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 23:40, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest what 1st Mageia version be called &quot;Xavante&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro Conectiva was
+</I>&gt;<i> sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some Conectiva users
+</I>&gt;<i> tried to create a fork called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+</I>&gt;<i> distro was not ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename was adopted and
+</I>&gt;<i> would recognize the Brazilians as part of Mandriva operatting system and,
+</I>&gt;<i> now, from Mageia operating system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more symbolic name,
+</I>&gt;<i> like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even for people that are not inside
+</I>&gt;<i> the community. Sadly Xavante will not mean anything for people from outside,
+</I>&gt;<i> that's why a much more powerful name would be better to have a great meaning
+</I>&gt;<i> (and why not link it to the artwork? Well, that'll be to determine in the
+</I>&gt;<i> future).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the pre-releases of the
+</I>&gt;<i> first stable release for Mageia could be really nice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>My two cents:
+
+We could use &quot;Lazarus&quot;, giving a response to all people ou' there was
+speaking the &quot;death&quot; of Mandriva and it's community.
+
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Project%20logo%20contest%20definitely%20needs%0A%09a%09dedicated%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C20100919215441.GA15219%40mars-attacks.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page">boklm at mars-attacks.org
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+<PRE>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Thomas Lottmann wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would have done it, if only I was more familiar with flickr, but I am
+</I>&gt;<i> not. So if someone has the time, I think it would be really helpfull to
+</I>&gt;<i> open a dedicated and clear flickr page to submit all the suggested logos,
+</I>&gt;<i> and to place a link both in the mailing lists, IRC and website.
+</I>
+I opened a flickr group :
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/</A>
+
+Nicolas
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20flickr%20group%20for%20logo%20proposals&In-Reply-To=%3C20100919215702.GB15219%40mars-attacks.org%3E"
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 23:57:02 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+If you have a flickr account, you can add your logo proposals to the
+following group :
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/</A>
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+Nicolas
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+ <B>nosXw</B>
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+<PRE>I think it's an excellent idea, it would be a wink and a gift to the community of Brazil, a gift more than deserved,
+because after the purchase of Conectiva this community was abandoned by Mandriva.
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+ <B>Chris</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C1284932346.7206.51.camel%40localhost.localdomain%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">cpollock at embarqmail.com
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+<PRE>On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 17:55 +0200, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;<i> inspiration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in
+</I>&gt;<i> kmenu button etc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The second one is excellent!
+
+--
+Chris
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+ <B>hermit</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?">hermit at outofoptions.com
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+ <I>Sun Sep 19 22:47:53 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>A new distro trying to get off the ground and way too many of these
+posts are on 'artwork'. There will come a time when I'm sure there will
+be a contest for the community at large to get involved, in the meantime
+you risk running off folks like myself that just can't be bothered with
+the volume of emails about stuff that is of low importance right now.
+
+my opinion anyhow....
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+The Hermit
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Hello">troumad at libertysurf.fr
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+<PRE> Hello
+
+I come here because I like my Mandriva. I can found besser : this month,
+I have tested Debian, OpenSuse or Fedora because I was afraid for Mandriva.
+I now, for me, the new name of Mandriva is Mageia. Isn't it ?
+--
+Amicalement vOOotre Troumad Alias Bernard SIAUD
+mon site : <A HREF="http://troumad.org">http://troumad.org</A> : AD&amp;D maths WEB...
+Pour la libert&#233; <A HREF="http://www.developpez.net/forums/f17/systemes/linux/">http://www.developpez.net/forums/f17/systemes/linux/</A>
+N'envoyez que des documents avec des formats ouverts, comme
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+ <B>Nuno Pinheiro</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look">nuno at oxygen-icons.org
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+<A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
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+--
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+ <B>Renaud MICHEL</B>
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+
+I've been an user of mandrake since 7.0 (heyn that's almost 10 years ago!)
+then mandriva.
+I am very pleased to see the announce for this community fork, and I hope I
+will be able to help, probably by testing and providing feedback first, and
+maybe contribute to the packaging (so far I've made some packages for my own
+use).
+
+And of course, when a first release will come I will be promoting it and
+installing in install parties at my local LUG :-)
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+Cheers
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've been an user of mandrake since 7.0 (heyn that's almost 10 years ago!)
+</I>&gt;<i> then mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i> I am very pleased to see the announce for this community fork, and I hope I
+</I>&gt;<i> will be able to help, probably by testing and providing feedback first, and
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe contribute to the packaging (so far I've made some packages for my own
+</I>&gt;<i> use).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And of course, when a first release will come I will be promoting it and
+</I>&gt;<i> installing in install parties at my local LUG :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Renaud Michel
+</I>
+Great, thanks for the voice of support :)
+
+Any help is welcome, be it testing, promoting, packaging. Once things
+starts to roll, you can apply for a packager's account.
+
+Thanks.
+
+&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+Ahmad Samir
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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+<PRE>If you want some sysadmin assistance, I can help out. I'm one of the
+GNOME sysadmins, see <A HREF="http://live.gnome.org/SysadminTeam.">http://live.gnome.org/SysadminTeam.</A> I have
+experience with Bugzilla, Python, LDAP, etc. However, I never helped on
+infrastructure side of Mandriva (only triaged many years back).
+
+One think I noticed is the self-signed certificate. Note that a free
+certificate for <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</A> can easily be created via
+<A HREF="https://www.startssl.com/.">https://www.startssl.com/.</A>
+
+For Mageia hosting, GNOME has one server and a VM @ osuosl.org. Though
+we don't use that machine much, I still have a very positive impression
+about the hosting (plus it is free:).
+
+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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+ <B>Stephen Germany</B>
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+
+Stephen
+
+Calm down..............it's only ones and zeroes.
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+ <B>Paul Willard</B>
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+<PRE>Further to this, the domain is now live and pointing to mandrivausers.org
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageiausers.org">http://www.mageiausers.org</A>
+
+
+
+discussions of what to do with community support should follow :)
+
+Paul Willard.
+
+A.K.A TerminalAddict
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+From: Paul Willard [mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">paul at mcrides.co.nz</A>]
+Sent: Sunday, 19 September 2010 8:40 a.m.
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+Subject: Introducing Paul Willard
+
+
+
+My introduction.
+
+My Name is Paul Willard, a bunch of people on the internet know me as
+TerminalAddict, and I am the original founder, owner, and lead administrator
+or <A HREF="http://mandrivausers.org">http://mandrivausers.org</A>
+
+And I'm here to help :)
+
+
+
+I have registered the domain name mageiausers.org .. I hope this was OK to
+do
+
+I'm happy to assist developing a community support strategy.
+
+
+
+Talk soon.
+
+Paul Willard.
+
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+<PRE>On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On 19 September 2010 01:48, Renaud MICHEL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com</A>&lt;r.h.michel%<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">2Bmageia at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I've been an user of mandrake since 7.0 (heyn that's almost 10 years
+</I>&gt;<i> ago!)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; then mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am very pleased to see the announce for this community fork, and I hope
+</I>&gt;<i> I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will be able to help, probably by testing and providing feedback first,
+</I>&gt;<i> and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maybe contribute to the packaging (so far I've made some packages for my
+</I>&gt;<i> own
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; use).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And of course, when a first release will come I will be promoting it and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; installing in install parties at my local LUG :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Renaud Michel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Great, thanks for the voice of support :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any help is welcome, be it testing, promoting, packaging. Once things
+</I>&gt;<i> starts to roll, you can apply for a packager's account.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I too would like to volunteer. Live in the US so can help with things that
+need to be done over here, also a developer and can help with packaging and
+what not.
+
+
+--
+&quot;The fact that man knows right from wrong proves his intellectual
+superiority to other creatures; but the fact that he can do wrong proves his
+moral inferiority to any creature that cannot.&quot;
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 19 September 2010 01:48, Renaud MICHEL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hello
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I've been an user of mandrake since 7.0 (heyn that's almost 10 years
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; ago!)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; then mandriva.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I am very pleased to see the announce for this community fork, and I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; hope I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; will be able to help, probably by testing and providing feedback first,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; maybe contribute to the packaging (so far I've made some packages for my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; own
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; use).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; And of course, when a first release will come I will be promoting it and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; installing in install parties at my local LUG :-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Renaud Michel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Great, thanks for the voice of support :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any help is welcome, be it testing, promoting, packaging. Once things
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> starts to roll, you can apply for a packager's account.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I too would like to volunteer.&#160;&#160; Live in the US so can help with things that
+</I>&gt;<i> need to be done over here, also a developer and can help with packaging and
+</I>&gt;<i> what not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks for the offer of help, I hope things get rolling soon :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;The fact that man knows right from wrong proves his intellectual
+</I>&gt;<i> superiority to other creatures; but the fact that he can do wrong proves his
+</I>&gt;<i> moral inferiority to any creature that cannot.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; - Mark Twain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Ahmad Samir
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+ <B>Filipe Saraiva</B>
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+<PRE>Hello, my name is Filipe Saraiva, brazilian, member of KDE regional group
+and Mandriva user. I traduzed the website of Mageia to brazilian portuguese.
+
+I am willing to help to promote Mageia in brazilian free software community.
+
+Hugs,
+
+2010/9/18 Andrey Borzenkov &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">arvidjaar at mail.ru</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> On Saturday 18 of September 2010 11:42:47 Jos&#239;&#191;&#189; Israel de Le&#239;&#191;&#189;n
+</I>&gt;<i> Cord&#239;&#191;&#189;n wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am sorry for my English, I am from Guatemala, I am studing English
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and now I am going to Study hard to comunicate with all of you.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I write for the first time and I do it to the 3 lists just to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; introduce myself, I am a Mandrake user since version 7 and now with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2010.1, mandriva is the best and I'm ready to help as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; necessary to this project.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am studing computer engineering, I like to program in C++ / Qt4, not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; know much kdelibs but what I can, I'm here to help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Again, I am sorry for my English jejejejeje.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please do not post in HTML in any technical list.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--
+Filipe Saraiva
+**************************************
+Meu blog: <A HREF="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</A>
+
+Associa&#231;&#227;o Piauiense de Software Livre
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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Hello all,
+
+my important points are:
+ * community (as a whole) gets a say about important points =&gt; some kind of
+system that makes this work without slowing us down. (multivoting of board
+members? every candidate could set up their viewpoints and people could
+register for voting and vote one or more members)
+ * funding(?) -&gt; costs + hw
+ * hyping! PR!
+ * upgradable from mdv
+ * policies!
+ * diff between mdv
+ * policy on gaming packages?
+ * patented software? (PLF?)
+ * free/non-free
+ * CAN we make a stable release BEFORE christmas (a 2011.0)? i think we can!
+
+these are my viewpoints/questions
+
+Maarten Vanraes
+AL13N
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+
+I've been a long time supporter of Mandriva and up until now have loved
+it. However I'm very glad to support the new Mageia.
+
+I am willing to host the Mageia forums/bugzilla/wiki/main site on my
+server at no cost.
+
+This would include hosting dns and email as needed.
+
+My server isn't doing much at the moment, but sits on a decent 100mb
+pipe in a datacenter in Melbourne, Australia.
+
+I've already mirrored the main site at: <A HREF="http://mageia.cyprix.com.au/">http://mageia.cyprix.com.au/</A>
+
+Could whoever needs to know please contact me so I can hand over auth
+details etc.
+
+Best of luck,
+
+--
+Sam Bailey
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+Cyprix Enterprises
+Web: cyprix.com.au
+Em: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cyprix at cyprix.com.au</A>
+Mb: 0425 796 308
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> my important points are:
+</I>&gt;<i> * community (as a whole) gets a say about important points =&gt; some kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> system that makes this work without slowing us down. (multivoting of board
+</I>&gt;<i> members? every candidate could set up their viewpoints and people could
+</I>&gt;<i> register for voting and vote one or more members)
+</I>&gt;<i> * funding(?) -&gt; costs + hw
+</I>&gt;<i> * hyping! PR!
+</I>&gt;<i> * upgradable from mdv
+</I>&gt;<i> * policies!
+</I>&gt;<i> * diff between mdv
+</I>&gt;<i> * policy on gaming packages?
+</I>&gt;<i> * patented software? (PLF?)
+</I>&gt;<i> * free/non-free
+</I>&gt;<i> * CAN we make a stable release BEFORE christmas (a 2011.0)? i think we can!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I agree that most questions here are important. Can I ask what you mean by &quot;policy on gaming packages&quot; ?
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+I believe getting FSF support for Mageia would be a huge boost for our
+distro. Also there is no major distro in the list of FSF approved
+distributions, yet. We could be the first major/established distro
+(well we have the legacy from Mandrake days) there. We are very close
+already, I believe we have to let go of only non-free firmware from
+the kernel.
+
+Here is the FSF guidelines
+<A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html">http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html</A>
+
+Can we commit to these guidelines?
+
+Thanks
+Praveen
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+<PRE>I don't believe that adhering to FSF will provide anything to Mageia/Mandriva users.
+
+I'm used to PLF, Flash plug-ins, video drivers, excellent hardware detection and other things that are part of the Mandriva experience.
+
+Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot just for the sake of a small publicity stunt: if Debian doesn't make it to their list, I don't think we should even try.
+
+My 2cents.
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
+
+On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Praveen A &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pravi.a at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Dear Mageia folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I believe getting FSF support for Mageia would be a huge boost for our
+</I>&gt;<i> distro. Also there is no major distro in the list of FSF approved
+</I>&gt;<i> distributions, yet. We could be the first major/established distro
+</I>&gt;<i> (well we have the legacy from Mandrake days) there. We are very close
+</I>&gt;<i> already, I believe we have to let go of only non-free firmware from
+</I>&gt;<i> the kernel.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is the FSF guidelines
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html">http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can we commit to these guidelines?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> Praveen
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> &#3370;&#3405;&#3376;&#3381;&#3392;&#3363;&#3405;&#8205; &#3333;&#3376;&#3391;&#3374;&#3405;&#3370;&#3405;&#3376;&#3364;&#3405;&#3364;&#3402;&#3359;&#3391;&#3375;&#3391;&#3378;&#3405;&#8205;
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+</I>&gt;<i> rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as
+</I>&gt;<i> they follow the rules: laws and constitution.
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+... soon at mageia-gr.org
+
+--
+Dimitrios Glentadakis
+
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+
+2010/9/18 SinnerBOFH &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sep 18, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi !
+</I>&gt;<i> You can find the greek translation here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/dimitrios/mageia_el.odt">http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/dimitrios/mageia_el.odt</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope the new name gets a big support from Hellenic Penguins :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Salut,
+</I>&gt;<i> Sinner
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi</B>
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+
+On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, SinnerBOFH &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I don't believe that adhering to FSF will provide anything to Mageia/Mandriva users.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm used to PLF, Flash plug-ins, video drivers, excellent hardware detection and other things that are part of the Mandriva experience.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot just for the sake of a small publicity stunt: if Debian doesn't make it to their list, I don't think we should even try.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My 2cents.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Salut,
+</I>&gt;<i> Sinner
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Praveen A &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pravi.a at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dear Mageia folks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I believe getting FSF support for Mageia would be a huge boost for our
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distro. Also there is no major distro in the list of FSF approved
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distributions, yet. We could be the first major/established distro
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (well we have the legacy from Mandrake days) there. We are very close
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> already, I believe we have to let go of only non-free firmware from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the kernel.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here is the FSF guidelines
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html">http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can we commit to these guidelines?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Praveen
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> they follow the rules: laws and constitution.
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Praveen A &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pravi.a at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Dear Mageia folks,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I believe getting FSF support for Mageia would be a huge boost for our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; distro. Also there is no major distro in the list of FSF approved
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; distributions, yet. We could be the first major/established distro
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (well we have the legacy from Mandrake days) there. We are very close
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; already, I believe we have to let go of only non-free firmware from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the kernel.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Here is the FSF guidelines
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html">http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Can we commit to these guidelines?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Praveen
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Please NO! I have watched this ruin other Linux distributions when it comes
+to usability. Let's look at it from a community stand point and not some
+hippies agenda. Thanks.
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+<PRE>On Saturday, September 18, 2010 04:32:53 pm Olav Vitters wrote:
+&gt;<i> If you want some sysadmin assistance, I can help out. I'm one of the
+</I>&gt;<i> GNOME sysadmins, see <A HREF="http://live.gnome.org/SysadminTeam.">http://live.gnome.org/SysadminTeam.</A> I have
+</I>&gt;<i> experience with Bugzilla, Python, LDAP, etc. However, I never helped on
+</I>&gt;<i> infrastructure side of Mandriva (only triaged many years back).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One think I noticed is the self-signed certificate. Note that a free
+</I>&gt;<i> certificate for <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</A> can easily be created via
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.startssl.com/.">https://www.startssl.com/.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For Mageia hosting, GNOME has one server and a VM @ osuosl.org. Though
+</I>&gt;<i> we don't use that machine much, I still have a very positive impression
+</I>&gt;<i> about the hosting (plus it is free:).
+</I>A free certificate would be great. Otherwise a lot of folks will be scared.
+
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+<PRE>On Saturday, September 18, 2010 03:48:35 pm Renaud MICHEL wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've been an user of mandrake since 7.0 (heyn that's almost 10 years ago!)
+</I>&gt;<i> then mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i> I am very pleased to see the announce for this community fork, and I hope I
+</I>&gt;<i> will be able to help, probably by testing and providing feedback first, and
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe contribute to the packaging (so far I've made some packages for my
+</I>&gt;<i> own use).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And of course, when a first release will come I will be promoting it and
+</I>&gt;<i> installing in install parties at my local LUG :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>I will certainly maintain the the packages I already do in Mandriva, more if I
+can
+I hope we'll stay with SVN as it the integration into the KDE desktop makes it
+easy for users.
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+use a software free proprietary drivers. My computer, for example, has a
+video card that is supported only by Mandriva and Opensuse because still do
+not have free drivers for her.
+
+
+
+2010/9/19 Jeremiah Summers &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jmiahman at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Praveen A &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pravi.a at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Dear Mageia folks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I believe getting FSF support for Mageia would be a huge boost for our
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; distro. Also there is no major distro in the list of FSF approved
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; distributions, yet. We could be the first major/established distro
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (well we have the legacy from Mandrake days) there. We are very close
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; already, I believe we have to let go of only non-free firmware from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the kernel.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Here is the FSF guidelines
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html">http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Can we commit to these guidelines?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thanks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Praveen
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please NO! I have watched this ruin other Linux distributions when it comes
+</I>&gt;<i> to usability. Let's look at it from a community stand point and not some
+</I>&gt;<i> hippies agenda. Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>I fully agree. Usability has to triumph over ideology. Adhering to the FSF
+guidelines will needlessly shackle the distro into ideological issues.
+Something we can do without.
+
+Maybe we need to come out with a charter, manifesto of some sorts that
+defines the target of the distro. I have noticed many questioning the
+existence of Mageia...considering the plethora of options available...like
+Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian etc. Fedora has the the bleeding edge, Ubuntu has the
+refined and polished look while Debian has its ideological purity of DFSG.
+
+On 19-Sep-2010 8:46 AM, &quot;Jeremiah Summers&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jmiahman at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> &gt; On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Praveen A &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pravi.a at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Dear Mageia folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>...
+</I>
+Please NO! I have watched this ruin other Linux distributions when it comes
+to usability. Let's look at it from a community stand point and not some
+hippies agenda. Thanks.
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+________________________________
+From: Jeremiah Summers &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jmiahman at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 3:15:51 AM
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+&gt;<i> On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Praveen A &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pravi.a at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dear Mageia folks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I believe getting FSF support for Mageia would be a huge boost for our
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> distro. Also there is no major distro in the list of FSF approved
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> distributions, yet. We could be the first major/established distro
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (well we have the legacy from Mandrake days) there. We are very close
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> already, I believe we have to let go of only non-free firmware from
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the kernel.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Here is the FSF guidelines
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html">http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can we commit to these guidelines?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Praveen
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Please NO! I have watched this ruin other Linux distributions when it comes to
+usability. Let's look at it from a community stand point and not some hippies
+agenda. Thanks.
+
+
++1 The ease of installing multimedia codecs and graphics card drivers is one of
+the things I have always loved about Mandriva.
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+My names is Aracele. I'm brazilian and Mandriva user since 2007. I feel very
+sad with the news about Mandriva, it's my favorite distribuition. But, I'm
+very happy with the criation of the Mageia. A distribution made by the
+community is the best way not to become hostage of big business. I'm willing
+to help with the translation part and more as I can. ;)
+
+Cheers.
+
+
+2010/9/19 Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> On Saturday, September 18, 2010 03:48:35 pm Renaud MICHEL wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I've been an user of mandrake since 7.0 (heyn that's almost 10 years
+</I>&gt;<i> ago!)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; then mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am very pleased to see the announce for this community fork, and I hope
+</I>&gt;<i> I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will be able to help, probably by testing and providing feedback first,
+</I>&gt;<i> and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maybe contribute to the packaging (so far I've made some packages for my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; own use).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And of course, when a first release will come I will be promoting it and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; installing in install parties at my local LUG :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> I will certainly maintain the the packages I already do in Mandriva, more
+</I>&gt;<i> if I
+</I>&gt;<i> can
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope we'll stay with SVN as it the integration into the KDE desktop makes
+</I>&gt;<i> it
+</I>&gt;<i> easy for users.
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+will be the internet address of Mageia greek community
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+Please sign up at mandrivausers.org and move the discussions there.
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+<PRE> El 18/09/10 21:15, Jeremiah Summers escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Praveen A &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pravi.a at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pravi.a at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Dear Mageia folks,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I believe getting FSF support for Mageia would be a huge boost
+</I>&gt;<i> for our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; distro. Also there is no major distro in the list of FSF approved
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; distributions, yet. We could be the first major/established distro
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (well we have the legacy from Mandrake days) there. We are very
+</I>&gt;<i> close
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; already, I believe we have to let go of only non-free firmware from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the kernel.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Here is the FSF guidelines
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html">http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Can we commit to these guidelines?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Praveen
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please NO! I have watched this ruin other Linux distributions when it
+</I>&gt;<i> comes to usability. Let's look at it from a community stand point and
+</I>&gt;<i> not some hippies agenda. Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+For me madriva success has been combining the best of free software
+with non free, there are things we do not have free software
+(Drivers, plugins, codecs, etc.), if we remove the closed software
+greatly affect the usability of the system, something that
+I personally do not like, much less to users who do not know about
+diference between free software and non free, who only want to operate
+their computers. I think
+to allow non-free software, the result is the best experience
+to the end user and the comfort of their hardware works. Sorry for my
+English.
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+
+I host/own mandrivausers.org and today purchased magieausers.org
+We (the mandrivausers community) will be discussing what we can offer over
+the next few days.
+Register on the site and join in :)
+
+Paul Willard.
+
+-----Original Message-----
+From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>
+[mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] On Behalf Of Sam Bailey
+Sent: Sunday, 19 September 2010 1:53 p.m.
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+Subject: [Mageia-discuss] Web hosting for Mageia
+
+ Hi everyone,
+
+I've been a long time supporter of Mandriva and up until now have loved it.
+However I'm very glad to support the new Mageia.
+
+I am willing to host the Mageia forums/bugzilla/wiki/main site on my server
+at no cost.
+
+This would include hosting dns and email as needed.
+
+My server isn't doing much at the moment, but sits on a decent 100mb pipe in
+a datacenter in Melbourne, Australia.
+
+I've already mirrored the main site at: <A HREF="http://mageia.cyprix.com.au/">http://mageia.cyprix.com.au/</A>
+
+Could whoever needs to know please contact me so I can hand over auth
+details etc.
+
+Best of luck,
+
+--
+Sam Bailey
+
+Cyprix Enterprises
+Web: cyprix.com.au
+Em: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cyprix at cyprix.com.au</A>
+Mb: 0425 796 308
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+ <B>Remco Rijnders</B>
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+<PRE>On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:35:14PM -0700, herman wrote:
+&gt;<i> Please sign up at mandrivausers.org and move the discussions there.
+</I>
+Hi Herman,
+
+I feel trying to move discussions away from this mailinglist and on to a
+forum is not in the best interest of this new project. This list was
+specifically created by the project leaders to foster discussion on how
+the new project should operate and how to best interact with the hopefully
+abundant user community. As such, the discussion on having a forum is a
+good one to have here, I just feel that the unilateral creation of such a
+forum might be a bit premature. Perhaps it is more useful to provide a
+pointer to this mailinglist on said existing Mandriva fora.
+
+Just my 2 cents worth. Thanks for your enthusiasm!
+
+Kind regards,
+
+Remco
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+ <B>michael at margrave.biz</B>
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+there (2000-2002).
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+I have sometime in with various versions of Python, and I have been
+working on porting euphoria to some processors. My work has included
+enterprise monitoring, video-on-demand from the internet cooked to TV
+quality for the cable customer, python development for high-availability
+and python development for babysitting routines that found problems like
+stuck queues and acted. My employers have included CTB/McGraw-Hill,
+Tellytopia, Google, Pearson, One I cannot mention, and Home Depot (for
+enterprise monitoring, and I made some Python extensions of Net_SNMP)
+
+Anyway, I have some GPL software to contribute which has never been
+released, and I can do packaging. I also have a server which could host
+code, but it doesn't have a lot of bandwidth. I could assemble a
+compilation clusster where I live, but the pipeline to it would have a lot
+of latency.
+
+However I can help, I will.
+
+Michael Moore aka Civileme
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+<PRE>I do not represent Mageia in anyway. :)
+I completely, and unequivocally represent mandrivausers.org board (MUB)
+(I'm the owner, administrator, founder, etc)
+
+Agreed, whether a community forum is required or not should be discussed
+here (the mailing list) and decided here, by either a) those who do
+represent Mageia, or b) the entire community.
+
+Having said that, I'm happy people like Herman are evangelists of
+mandrivausers :)
+
+The community forum discussion thus far is this:
+I was given direction by a user (tux99) that I should register the name
+mageiausers.org (which I have)
+I then spent a few hours in the IRC channel, and openly offered my support
+of the project.
+The people I spoke to in the channel were overwhelmed with work (surprise
+surprise :) ) so thanked me for my offer, and suggested we could talk more
+in a day or two.
+
+I (as I'm an action based person) have since started discussions on
+mandrivausers about what this means to our community, with all the response
+thus far being positive; all users suggest offering our unfettered support
+is good for both the MUB community, and the developing Mageia Users
+community (MUC ?? :) )
+
+I'd be over the moon if I could help, as would all the MUB people.
+I've got stacks and stacks of infrastructure thanks to osuosl.org (Oregon
+State), which has diminished into nothingness over the last 2 years as
+Mandriva Support has died out.
+
+Thanks Herman, I'll buy you a beer for your enthusiasm if we ever meet :)
+
+Paul Willard.
+A.K.A. TerminalAddict
+
+-----Original Message-----
+From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>
+[mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] On Behalf Of Remco Rijnders
+Sent: Sunday, 19 September 2010 5:02 p.m.
+To: Mageia general discussions
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+
+On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:35:14PM -0700, herman wrote:
+&gt;<i> Please sign up at mandrivausers.org and move the discussions there.
+</I>
+Hi Herman,
+
+I feel trying to move discussions away from this mailinglist and on to a
+forum is not in the best interest of this new project. This list was
+specifically created by the project leaders to foster discussion on how the
+new project should operate and how to best interact with the hopefully
+abundant user community. As such, the discussion on having a forum is a good
+one to have here, I just feel that the unilateral creation of such a forum
+might be a bit premature. Perhaps it is more useful to provide a pointer to
+this mailinglist on said existing Mandriva fora.
+
+Just my 2 cents worth. Thanks for your enthusiasm!
+
+Kind regards,
+
+Remco
+
+PS. I do not represent Mageia in any way, other than being an interested
+outsider :-)
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+ <B>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz</B>
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+<PRE>Le samedi 18 septembre 2010 19:55:47, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> my important points are:
+</I>&gt;<i> * community (as a whole) gets a say about important points =&gt; some kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> system that makes this work without slowing us down. (multivoting of board
+</I>&gt;<i> members? every candidate could set up their viewpoints and people could
+</I>&gt;<i> register for voting and vote one or more members)
+</I>&gt;<i> * funding(?) -&gt; costs + hw
+</I>&gt;<i> * hyping! PR!
+</I>&gt;<i> * upgradable from mdv
+</I>&gt;<i> * policies!
+</I>&gt;<i> * diff between mdv
+</I>&gt;<i> * policy on gaming packages?
+</I>&gt;<i> * patented software? (PLF?)
+</I>&gt;<i> * free/non-free
+</I>&gt;<i> * CAN we make a stable release BEFORE christmas (a 2011.0)? i think we
+</I>&gt;<i> can!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> these are my viewpoints/questions
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes
+</I>&gt;<i> AL13N
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+tyou took very importan points, as we are going to be different from mdva, i
+wonder PLF software should be in mainstream.
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+BTW, what will be the pet?
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+je souhaite beaucoup de chance (et de travail) &#224; votre &#233;quipe et &#224; cette
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+I am a Mandriva contributor and was quite worried about the current
+situation and departures of staff at Mandriva. I have been thinking
+for a long time, a community based version of Mandriva would be good
+to ensure that the distribution is stronger than any one company.
+Looks like I am not the only one that had the idea of a community
+owned and run fork.
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+So, I'd like to be involved.
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+<PRE>The Mandriva distribution has been dying by degrees over the last few
+years. The forum activity drying up is a reflection of the reduction in
+the number of new users.
+
+The news around the fork is bound to generate a new round of enthusiasm
+and new users should be encouraged. New users of course like web
+forums, since it doesn't require any setup and a user with a problem
+sorely needs an easy to use web forum.
+
+So, all new users coming here to figure out what the fork noise is all
+about, should be steered to the regular Mandriva downloads and
+mandrivausers.org. They should not be discouraged from using Mandriva.
+
+H.
+
+On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 22:24 -0700, Paul Willard wrote:
+&gt;<i> I do not represent Mageia in anyway. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> I completely, and unequivocally represent mandrivausers.org board (MUB)
+</I>&gt;<i> (I'm the owner, administrator, founder, etc)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agreed, whether a community forum is required or not should be discussed
+</I>&gt;<i> here (the mailing list) and decided here, by either a) those who do
+</I>&gt;<i> represent Mageia, or b) the entire community.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Having said that, I'm happy people like Herman are evangelists of
+</I>&gt;<i> mandrivausers :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The community forum discussion thus far is this:
+</I>&gt;<i> I was given direction by a user (tux99) that I should register the name
+</I>&gt;<i> mageiausers.org (which I have)
+</I>&gt;<i> I then spent a few hours in the IRC channel, and openly offered my support
+</I>&gt;<i> of the project.
+</I>&gt;<i> The people I spoke to in the channel were overwhelmed with work (surprise
+</I>&gt;<i> surprise :) ) so thanked me for my offer, and suggested we could talk more
+</I>&gt;<i> in a day or two.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I (as I'm an action based person) have since started discussions on
+</I>&gt;<i> mandrivausers about what this means to our community, with all the response
+</I>&gt;<i> thus far being positive; all users suggest offering our unfettered support
+</I>&gt;<i> is good for both the MUB community, and the developing Mageia Users
+</I>&gt;<i> community (MUC ?? :) )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd be over the moon if I could help, as would all the MUB people.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've got stacks and stacks of infrastructure thanks to osuosl.org (Oregon
+</I>&gt;<i> State), which has diminished into nothingness over the last 2 years as
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva Support has died out.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks Herman, I'll buy you a beer for your enthusiasm if we ever meet :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Paul Willard.
+</I>&gt;<i> A.K.A. TerminalAddict
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -----Original Message-----
+</I>&gt;<i> From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> [mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] On Behalf Of Remco Rijnders
+</I>&gt;<i> Sent: Sunday, 19 September 2010 5:02 p.m.
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia general discussions
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:35:14PM -0700, herman wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please sign up at mandrivausers.org and move the discussions there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Herman,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I feel trying to move discussions away from this mailinglist and on to a
+</I>&gt;<i> forum is not in the best interest of this new project. This list was
+</I>&gt;<i> specifically created by the project leaders to foster discussion on how the
+</I>&gt;<i> new project should operate and how to best interact with the hopefully
+</I>&gt;<i> abundant user community. As such, the discussion on having a forum is a good
+</I>&gt;<i> one to have here, I just feel that the unilateral creation of such a forum
+</I>&gt;<i> might be a bit premature. Perhaps it is more useful to provide a pointer to
+</I>&gt;<i> this mailinglist on said existing Mandriva fora.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just my 2 cents worth. Thanks for your enthusiasm!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kind regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remco
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS. I do not represent Mageia in any way, other than being an interested
+</I>&gt;<i> outsider :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+&gt;<i> I was a user of Mandrake since 5.2, and I spent a couple of years in QA
+</I>&gt;<i> there (2000-2002).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have sometime in with various versions of Python, and I have been
+</I>&gt;<i> working on porting euphoria to some processors. My work has included
+</I>&gt;<i> enterprise monitoring, video-on-demand from the internet cooked to TV
+</I>&gt;<i> quality for the cable customer, python development for high-availability
+</I>&gt;<i> and python development for babysitting routines that found problems like
+</I>&gt;<i> stuck queues and acted. My employers have included CTB/McGraw-Hill,
+</I>&gt;<i> Tellytopia, Google, Pearson, One I cannot mention, and Home Depot (for
+</I>&gt;<i> enterprise monitoring, and I made some Python extensions of Net_SNMP)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, I have some GPL software to contribute which has never been
+</I>&gt;<i> released, and I can do packaging. I also have a server which could host
+</I>&gt;<i> code, but it doesn't have a lot of bandwidth. I could assemble a
+</I>&gt;<i> compilation clusster where I live, but the pipeline to it would have a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> of latency.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However I can help, I will.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Moore aka Civileme
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>As just a simple user from early 2000, it is awesome to see the spirit
+of Mandrake still alive, the vitality of the &quot;sparkle&quot;, surviving all
+adversities. I am very appreciative and will do what little I can to
+support this spirit.
+Rolf
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+ <B>VARVOU Jean Michel</B>
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+<PRE> I use Mandriva for many years. I will be happy to lend my support to
+the project.
+I can test and report bugs, writing in a wiki, animate a forum,
+participate in the work of communication. But all this primarily in French.
+I will be interested to train me to packaging if I find a tutor.
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+ <B>Remco Rijnders</B>
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+&gt;<i> The Mandriva distribution has been dying by degrees over the last few
+</I>&gt;<i> years. The forum activity drying up is a reflection of the reduction in
+</I>&gt;<i> the number of new users.
+</I>
+Agreed and agreed. That's why I'm happy to see this Mageia initiative
+being taken; I think most of us on this list hope for this to turn into a
+succesful story. Too long have things been lingering as the result of poor
+designs and monetary problems.
+
+&gt;<i> The news around the fork is bound to generate a new round of enthusiasm
+</I>&gt;<i> and new users should be encouraged.
+</I>
+Agreed. That's why I think it's important that as long as the project
+homepage sends new users to this list to discuss, that that is the
+appropiate place for 'the official' discussion to take place. The last
+thing you want is for there to be confusion on who runs the project and
+what it's official home is. Even with the multitude of Mandriva sites it
+was through the years not clear which homepage was the right one to use
+and which was available for free or which only for club members. Same for
+download locations, etc.
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+&gt;<i> New users of course like web forums, since it doesn't require any setup
+</I>&gt;<i> and a user with a problem sorely needs an easy to use web forum.
+</I>
+Perhaps for most new users this holds true. I personally am not a fan of
+web fora, but I realise that is just a personal preference. Registering to
+post on a forum or sending an email to a mailing list, both which require
+you to confirm your email address, seem to be equally complicated
+(simple!) to me.
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+&gt;<i> So, all new users coming here to figure out what the fork noise is all
+</I>&gt;<i> about, should be steered to the regular Mandriva downloads and
+</I>&gt;<i> mandrivausers.org. They should not be discouraged from using Mandriva.
+</I>
+I'm not saying anyone should be discouraged from anything. Till the time
+that Mageira actually releases something, I'm more than fine with people
+opting to choose Mandriva.
+
+With that said though, I don't think we've heard anything on the position
+of Mandriva SA in all this yet. Perhaps they might be happy to work
+together with Mageia and even rebase their own distribution on it in due
+course, but they also might oppose this fork and fight it as much as they
+can. I don't know which way things will turn out, but I think we should
+not assume that everyone is fine with this, especially given the criticism
+given to Mandriva SA and its management. Also, the fact that Mandriva did
+not launch a community initiative like this themselves has me somewhat
+wary as to their position.
+
+Because of this, *if* we have to point users to a forum, I rather point
+them to mageiausers.org than mandrivausers.org. (And thank you Paul for
+registering this!). On that board we can then point users to the official
+mageia homepage, as well as encourage them to take part in the discussions
+on the board.
+
+But I remain of the opinion that your original call to move all discussion
+to the forum is premature at this point and that should such a call be
+made, that it should be done by a mageia representative unless we want to
+end up with 20 different fora who all want the discussion to take place on
+their board.
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+Sincerely,
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+ <B>Ciprian Stoica</B>
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+I am very happy with the new project.
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+I will surely try to help, I can test, translate, help with bugs, I'm a
+beginner packager
+but with a little training I will soon get better.
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+I also can get involved in advertising as this is what I do, as a real
+life job in the last 4 years,
+as long I use mandriva, as a matter of fact. So if there are advertising
+related positions, I will surely
+get involved in that too.
+Thanks to people who made this possible.
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+Regards,
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+Ciprian
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+ <B>Shawn Thompson</B>
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+licensing, etc? This would be a good place to start.
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+ <B>herman</B>
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+<PRE>Yes, there should only be *one* English forum and the
+mageiausers.org/mandrivausers.org forum should probably be it, because
+it already exists and is hosted for free by a FOSS supporting
+university.
+
+If multiple language fora are required, then they should all clearly
+reference each other so that users can click on a flag and jump to the
+other forum.
+
+We should avoid having multiple redundant and unknown/confusing fora
+like Mandriva currently has.
+
+Cheers,
+
+H.
+
+On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 23:14 -0700, Remco Rijnders wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:48:02PM -0700, herman wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The Mandriva distribution has been dying by degrees over the last few
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; years. The forum activity drying up is a reflection of the reduction in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the number of new users.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agreed and agreed. That's why I'm happy to see this Mageia initiative
+</I>&gt;<i> being taken; I think most of us on this list hope for this to turn into a
+</I>&gt;<i> succesful story. Too long have things been lingering as the result of poor
+</I>&gt;<i> designs and monetary problems.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The news around the fork is bound to generate a new round of enthusiasm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and new users should be encouraged.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agreed. That's why I think it's important that as long as the project
+</I>&gt;<i> homepage sends new users to this list to discuss, that that is the
+</I>&gt;<i> appropiate place for 'the official' discussion to take place. The last
+</I>&gt;<i> thing you want is for there to be confusion on who runs the project and
+</I>&gt;<i> what it's official home is. Even with the multitude of Mandriva sites it
+</I>&gt;<i> was through the years not clear which homepage was the right one to use
+</I>&gt;<i> and which was available for free or which only for club members. Same for
+</I>&gt;<i> download locations, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; New users of course like web forums, since it doesn't require any setup
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and a user with a problem sorely needs an easy to use web forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps for most new users this holds true. I personally am not a fan of
+</I>&gt;<i> web fora, but I realise that is just a personal preference. Registering to
+</I>&gt;<i> post on a forum or sending an email to a mailing list, both which require
+</I>&gt;<i> you to confirm your email address, seem to be equally complicated
+</I>&gt;<i> (simple!) to me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, all new users coming here to figure out what the fork noise is all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; about, should be steered to the regular Mandriva downloads and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mandrivausers.org. They should not be discouraged from using Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not saying anyone should be discouraged from anything. Till the time
+</I>&gt;<i> that Mageira actually releases something, I'm more than fine with people
+</I>&gt;<i> opting to choose Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With that said though, I don't think we've heard anything on the position
+</I>&gt;<i> of Mandriva SA in all this yet. Perhaps they might be happy to work
+</I>&gt;<i> together with Mageia and even rebase their own distribution on it in due
+</I>&gt;<i> course, but they also might oppose this fork and fight it as much as they
+</I>&gt;<i> can. I don't know which way things will turn out, but I think we should
+</I>&gt;<i> not assume that everyone is fine with this, especially given the criticism
+</I>&gt;<i> given to Mandriva SA and its management. Also, the fact that Mandriva did
+</I>&gt;<i> not launch a community initiative like this themselves has me somewhat
+</I>&gt;<i> wary as to their position.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because of this, *if* we have to point users to a forum, I rather point
+</I>&gt;<i> them to mageiausers.org than mandrivausers.org. (And thank you Paul for
+</I>&gt;<i> registering this!). On that board we can then point users to the official
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia homepage, as well as encourage them to take part in the discussions
+</I>&gt;<i> on the board.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I remain of the opinion that your original call to move all discussion
+</I>&gt;<i> to the forum is premature at this point and that should such a call be
+</I>&gt;<i> made, that it should be done by a mageia representative unless we want to
+</I>&gt;<i> end up with 20 different fora who all want the discussion to take place on
+</I>&gt;<i> their board.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sincerely,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remco
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/19 herman &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">herman at aeronetworks.ca</A>&gt;:
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Because of this, *if* we have to point users to a forum, I rather point
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> them to mageiausers.org than mandrivausers.org. (And thank you Paul for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> registering this!). On that board we can then point users to the official
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia homepage, as well as encourage them to take part in the discussions
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on the board.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But I remain of the opinion that your original call to move all discussion
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to the forum is premature at this point and that should such a call be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> made, that it should be done by a mageia representative unless we want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> end up with 20 different fora who all want the discussion to take place on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> their board.
+</I>
+Agreed from my side. I also see the best solution in the same system
+as it has been with Mandriva:
+ - one international main forum (mageiausers.org) for everybody with
+English as common language (although for Mandriva there are 2 large
+forums, one company-led, one independent)
+ - localized forums for non-english speakers - I guess most
+independant local organisations already &quot;signed up&quot; for Mageia :)
+
+At the independent German forum MandrivaUser.de we will change name to
+mageia.de soon (mandrivauser.de becoming a redirect to mageia.de) but
+we will still support users of Mandriva Linux and keep our repository
+and other Mandriva related stuff side by side with Mageia related
+stuff. Even when Mageia will release its own packages and/or release I
+agree that we should keep supporting Mandriva Linux users as well as
+long as possible.
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+ <B>Olav Dahlum</B>
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+recently the main channel operator on #mandriva, etc, I fully support
+this fork. Just tell me what you need me to do.
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-19 03:39, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 herman&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">herman at aeronetworks.ca</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Because of this, *if* we have to point users to a forum, I rather point
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> them to mageiausers.org than mandrivausers.org. (And thank you Paul for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> registering this!). On that board we can then point users to the official
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mageia homepage, as well as encourage them to take part in the discussions
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on the board.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But I remain of the opinion that your original call to move all discussion
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to the forum is premature at this point and that should such a call be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> made, that it should be done by a mageia representative unless we want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> end up with 20 different fora who all want the discussion to take place on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> their board.
+</I>&gt;<i> Agreed from my side. I also see the best solution in the same system
+</I>&gt;<i> as it has been with Mandriva:
+</I>&gt;<i> - one international main forum (mageiausers.org) for everybody with
+</I>&gt;<i> English as common language (although for Mandriva there are 2 large
+</I>&gt;<i> forums, one company-led, one independent)
+</I>&gt;<i> - localized forums for non-english speakers - I guess most
+</I>&gt;<i> independant local organisations already &quot;signed up&quot; for Mageia :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the independent German forum MandrivaUser.de we will change name to
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia.de soon (mandrivauser.de becoming a redirect to mageia.de) but
+</I>&gt;<i> we will still support users of Mandriva Linux and keep our repository
+</I>&gt;<i> and other Mandriva related stuff side by side with Mageia related
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff. Even when Mageia will release its own packages and/or release I
+</I>&gt;<i> agree that we should keep supporting Mandriva Linux users as well as
+</I>&gt;<i> long as possible.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
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+</I>I have bought and am pointing the domain <A HREF="http://www.mageia.ca">http://www.mageia.ca</A> to the
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> site. All of the best of luck. I will try to
+contribute more when I can.
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+<PRE>hi olivier,
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+On 10/09/18 21:44 +0200, Olivier M&#233;jean wrote:
+&gt;<i> I am no developer, no more do i package, i may do bug reports, so i can't help
+</I>&gt;<i> much on technical side. I am rather on advocate side, promote the distro i use
+</I>&gt;<i> (Mandriva for the moment, Mageia in the future)
+</I>
+every help is welcome, be it technical, advocate, documentation,
+translation... that's the power of a group: we're working each of us
+where we may do a difference.
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+the advantage of advocating is that you can start right now! ;-)
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+j&#233;r&#244;me
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+ <B>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela</B>
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+<PRE>Hello, I have been a Mandriva user since the Mandrake 8.x days, I'm
+all for this project and if there is anything that I could help with
+I'll be glad to lend a hand, I'm mainly a developer (C, C++, Python)
+and have some experience with packaging (tough I might need to update
+my packaging skills), I could also contribute Artwork if possible.
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+I am working with <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/">http://blogdrake.net/</A> (spanish speakers mandriva community
+) since 4 years ago, like Admin .
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+I am very excited about this project, becouse previously I was disagree with
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+at least to maintain the Firebird related packages
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+It might be good to invite Ga&#235;l Duval, creator of Mandrake Linux, to
+Mageia board. At least as a principial gesture showing difference
+betwen MandrakeSoft attitude and Mageia.
+
+Just to remember history, few links:
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+<A HREF="http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder">http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder</A>
+Mandriva Linux fires its founder
+
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval</A>
+Ga&#235;l Duval
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+Harijs (AKA hbush)
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+ <B>Gonzalo Igartua</B>
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+2010/9/19 Harijs Buss &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">harijs at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Hi there! :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It might be good to invite Ga&#235;l Duval, creator of Mandrake Linux, to
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia board. At least as a principial gesture showing difference
+</I>&gt;<i> betwen MandrakeSoft attitude and Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just to remember history, few links:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder">http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva Linux fires its founder
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ga&#235;l Duval
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Harijs (AKA hbush)
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandrake/Mandriva user since v.5
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+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 02:55:47, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; my important points are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * community (as a whole) gets a say about important points =&gt; some kind
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; system that makes this work without slowing us down. (multivoting of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; board members? every candidate could set up their viewpoints and people
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; could register for voting and vote one or more members)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * funding(?) -&gt; costs + hw
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * hyping! PR!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * upgradable from mdv
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * policies!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * diff between mdv
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * policy on gaming packages?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * patented software? (PLF?)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * free/non-free
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * CAN we make a stable release BEFORE christmas (a 2011.0)? i think we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree that most questions here are important. Can I ask what you mean by
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;policy on gaming packages&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>
+
+This is a personal pov for myself. do we have enough diskspace to package
+games as well? should we do some kind of special packaging policy for content
+packages? etc... in the past with mdv there has been concerns about big
+packages and the required disk space, etc... in my pov games are an important
+element of the targeted public.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Op zondag 19 september 2010 04:20:21 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 02:55:47, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hello all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; my important points are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; * community (as a whole) gets a say about important points =&gt; some kind
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; system that makes this work without slowing us down. (multivoting of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; board members? every candidate could set up their viewpoints and people
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; could register for voting and vote one or more members)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; * funding(?) -&gt; costs + hw
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; * hyping! PR!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; * upgradable from mdv
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; * policies!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; * diff between mdv
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; * policy on gaming packages?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; * patented software? (PLF?)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; * free/non-free
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; * CAN we make a stable release BEFORE christmas (a 2011.0)? i think we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; can!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I agree that most questions here are important. Can I ask what you mean by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;policy on gaming packages&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a personal pov for myself. do we have enough diskspace to package
+</I>&gt;<i> games as well? should we do some kind of special packaging policy for content
+</I>&gt;<i> packages? etc... in the past with mdv there has been concerns about big
+</I>&gt;<i> packages and the required disk space, etc... in my pov games are an important
+</I>&gt;<i> element of the targeted public.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+My packaging work being mainly focused on games, I cannot disagree :)
+
+Regards
+
+Samuel
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+ <B>Gonzalo Igartua</B>
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+<PRE>In <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/">http://blogdrake.net/</A> we have a little repository for mandriva.
+
+One important point was games
+
+<A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.1/free/i586/">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.1/free/i586/</A>
+
+<A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.1/free/noarch/">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.1/free/noarch/</A>
+
+Performous, RigsofRods, Frogatto, gkaraoke, naev,zaz and more
+
+Like packager I am very interested in bringing games.
+
+All packages of our repository will be part of mageia repositories
+
+Cheers
+
+2010/9/19 Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 13:19:11, vous avez &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op zondag 19 september 2010 04:20:21 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 02:55:47, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Hello all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; my important points are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; * community (as a whole) gets a say about important points =&gt; some
+</I>&gt;<i> kind
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; system that makes this work without slowing us down. (multivoting of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; board members? every candidate could set up their viewpoints and
+</I>&gt;<i> people
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; could register for voting and vote one or more members)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; * funding(?) -&gt; costs + hw
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; * hyping! PR!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; * upgradable from mdv
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; * policies!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; * diff between mdv
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; * policy on gaming packages?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; * patented software? (PLF?)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; * free/non-free
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; * CAN we make a stable release BEFORE christmas (a 2011.0)? i think
+</I>&gt;<i> we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; can!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I agree that most questions here are important. Can I ask what you mean
+</I>&gt;<i> by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &quot;policy on gaming packages&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is a personal pov for myself. do we have enough diskspace to package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; games as well? should we do some kind of special packaging policy for
+</I>&gt;<i> content
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages? etc... in the past with mdv there has been concerns about big
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages and the required disk space, etc... in my pov games are an
+</I>&gt;<i> important
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; element of the targeted public.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My packaging work being mainly focused on games, I cannot disagree :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
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+Harijs Buss &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">harijs at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
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+&gt;<i> Hi there! :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It might be good to invite Ga&#235;l Duval, creator of Mandrake Linux, to
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia board. At least as a principial gesture showing difference
+</I>&gt;<i> betwen MandrakeSoft attitude and Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just to remember history, few links:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder">http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva Linux fires its founder
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ga&#235;l Duval
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Harijs (AKA hbush)
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandrake/Mandriva user since v.5
+</I>Good idea !
+I had too but I did not dare.
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia board. At least as a principial gesture showing difference
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> betwen MandrakeSoft attitude and Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just to remember history, few links:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder">http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mandriva Linux fires its founder
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ga&#235;l Duval
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Harijs (AKA hbush)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mandrake/Mandriva user since v.5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good idea !
+</I>&gt;<i> I had too but I did not dare.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi there
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+Just a quick notice as written in first announcement. We (people who
+launched that project) are very careful about what we would like this
+project: for sure it will not be agresssive towards Mandriva, no reason
+for this and it cannot help. We think there are good things in Mandriva
+Linux and some to be changed. Do it better and in a different way
+implying all community :). Everything that happened in Mandriva life is
+past and does not have anything to do with current starting project.
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+Cheers !
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+Anne
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+&gt;<i> Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:28:15 +0300
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Harijs Buss &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">harijs at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there! :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It might be good to invite Ga&#235;l Duval, creator of Mandrake Linux, to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia board. At least as a principial gesture showing difference
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; betwen MandrakeSoft attitude and Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just to remember history, few links:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fir">http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fir</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; es-its-founder Mandriva Linux fires its founder
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ga&#235;l Duval
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Harijs (AKA hbush)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mandrake/Mandriva user since v.5
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good idea !
+</I>&gt;<i> I had too but I did not dare.
+</I>
+Personally i would not like to ask someone to be at the board, if they don't
+put a candicy forward for themselves.
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+I would however like alot more community input in some form or other, maybe
+voting, or voting of board members with diff agenda's or something. like a poll
+where you can choose more than one option.
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+eg: if all board members have slightly diff opinions about lesser important
+stuff, and that would be public info before voting (more than one person
+allowed to vote for), then you would have a clear picture of which of the
+lesser important stuff is more important.
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+or, no need to make this complex, from time to time a multiple poll about some
+stuff, so that we all transparently know where we stand as a community.
+
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It might be good to invite Ga&#235;l Duval, creator of Mandrake Linux, to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia board. At least as a principial gesture showing difference
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> betwen MandrakeSoft attitude and Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just to remember history, few links:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder">http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mandriva Linux fires its founder
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ga&#235;l Duval
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Harijs (AKA hbush)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mandrake/Mandriva user since v.5
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Good idea !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I had too but I did not dare.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a quick notice as written in first announcement. We (people who
+</I>&gt;<i> launched that project) are very careful about what we would like this
+</I>&gt;<i> project: for sure it will not be agresssive towards Mandriva, no reason
+</I>&gt;<i> for this and it cannot help. We think there are good things in Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux and some to be changed. Do it better and in a different way
+</I>&gt;<i> implying all community :). Everything that happened in Mandriva life is
+</I>&gt;<i> past and does not have anything to do with current starting project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>
+I have to agree with Anne on this one. We're clearly starting with clean
+pages here, so let's think this over.
+
+Regards,
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+I have been user of Mandriva since 9.1 and before user of SuSe (the original
+German) and RedHat (I began on Linux with 5.0). I'm not tech-savyy so I like
+Mandriva because of its common people orientation.
+
+So I'm thinking if it's good to build an entire distribution from scratch.
+Would not be better to take one distro such as Fedora and then add what we
+can call &quot;the common people layer&quot; (DrakTools, Flash, Java, codecs, some
+software ...)? So the base system build (kernel, modules, patches, libs,
+dependencies ...) can be avoided and resources could be heading to the added
+value to the common people, the same added value that made Mandriva a great
+distro!
+
+I'm on economics and not on computer science so I can not help with this,
+but if some kind of advice is needed on financial, perfomance or social
+responsability reporting I could help :-)
+
+All the best,
+Jes&#250;s
+
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+2010/9/19 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It might be good to invite Ga&#235;l Duval, creator of Mandrake Linux, to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia board. At least as a principial gesture showing difference
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; betwen MandrakeSoft attitude and Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Just to remember history, few links:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder">http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/25171-mandriva-linux-fires-its-founder</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mandriva Linux fires its founder
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gael_Duval</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Ga&#235;l Duval
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Harijs (AKA hbush)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mandrake/Mandriva user since v.5
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Good idea !
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I had too but I did not dare.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a quick notice as written in first announcement. We (people who
+</I>&gt;<i> launched that project) are very careful about what we would like this
+</I>&gt;<i> project: for sure it will not be agresssive towards Mandriva, no reason
+</I>&gt;<i> for this and it cannot help. We think there are good things in Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux and some to be changed. Do it better and in a different way
+</I>&gt;<i> implying all community :). Everything that happened in Mandriva life is
+</I>&gt;<i> past and does not have anything to do with current starting project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
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+&gt;<i> \Everything that happened in Mandriva life is
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+Merci pour l'initiative Mageia, j'esp&#232;re que cette nouvelle distribution
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+Ou si ce n'est pas le cas, faites un d&#233;p&#244;t &#224; jour pour les applications
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+First a big thank to all support for mageia project. This is just incredible
+:<i>). About infrastructure, meaning build system for distro, forums, web
+</I>sites... we are starting working on it and we would like to be able to start
+with clean situation. Having it dispatched in lots of different place will
+make it difficult to maintain. So it's not we don't want help or so, we are
+just taking some time to start properly and in a clean way so we can have
+all good conditions for contribution. But brainstorm can goes on as we saw
+some discussion on logos, design...
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+btw we should have soon a way to accept donations as we will need to start
+with servers and hosting.
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+Again thanks for all this support and long life to Mageia :)
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+HacKurx &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hackurx at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Bonjour,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Merci pour l'initiative Mageia, j'esp&#232;re que cette nouvelle
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution sera de type rolling release.
+</I>&gt;<i> Ou si ce n'est pas le cas, faites un d&#233;p&#244;t &#224; jour pour les
+</I>&gt;<i> applications phare comme vlc, firefox etc...
+</I>&gt;<i> Cela attirera &#233;norm&#233;ment d'utilisateur et vous d&#233;marquera des 700
+</I>&gt;<i> distributions existantes.
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
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+</I>&gt;<i> First a big thank to all support for mageia project. This is just
+</I>&gt;<i> incredible :). About infrastructure, meaning build system for distro,
+</I>&gt;<i> forums, web sites... we are starting working on it and we would like to
+</I>&gt;<i> be able to start with clean situation. Having it dispatched in lots of
+</I>&gt;<i> different place will make it difficult to maintain. So it's not we don't
+</I>&gt;<i> want help or so, we are just taking some time to start properly and in a
+</I>&gt;<i> clean way so we can have all good conditions for contribution. But
+</I>&gt;<i> brainstorm can goes on as we saw some discussion on logos, design...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> btw we should have soon a way to accept donations as we will need to
+</I>&gt;<i> start with servers and hosting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Again thanks for all this support and long life to Mageia :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>
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+Will donations also be used to keep the former Edge-IT team focused on
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+</I>&gt;<i> Will donations also be used to keep the former Edge-IT team focused on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It's not fixed for now. We have to speak about this. But it can be an
+option.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Daniel
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+<PRE>Hi Jean Michel!
+
+On Mandriva's Wiki there are some good documents on RPM packaging:
+
+<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/RPM">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/RPM</A>
+
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+<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Tools/RPM/AdvancedHowto">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Tools/RPM/AdvancedHowto</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Packaging/Tools/rpmlint">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Packaging/Tools/rpmlint</A>
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
+
+
+On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:49 AM, VARVOU Jean Michel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jeanmichel.varvou at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> I use Mandriva for many years. I will be happy to lend my support to the project.
+</I>&gt;<i> I can test and report bugs, writing in a wiki, animate a forum, participate in the work of communication. But all this primarily in French.
+</I>&gt;<i> I will be interested to train me to packaging if I find a tutor.
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+
+Nice!
+
+Could you start working in some advertisement for Mageia?
+
+Maybe start a thread to get all talented artists to get together and work on Mageia art, &quot;corporate image&quot; and all this.
+
+Don't ask what can you do: do it!
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
+
+
+
+On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:08 AM, &quot;Ciprian Stoica&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cstoica at fastmail.fm</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am very happy with the new project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will surely try to help, I can test, translate, help with bugs, I'm a
+</I>&gt;<i> beginner packager
+</I>&gt;<i> but with a little training I will soon get better.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also can get involved in advertising as this is what I do, as a real
+</I>&gt;<i> life job in the last 4 years,
+</I>&gt;<i> as long I use mandriva, as a matter of fact. So if there are advertising
+</I>&gt;<i> related positions, I will surely
+</I>&gt;<i> get involved in that too.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks to people who made this possible.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ciprian
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Ciprian Stoica
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cstoica at fastmail.fm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fastmail.fm">http://www.fastmail.fm</A> - Or how I learned to stop worrying and
+</I>&gt;<i> love email again
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> The news around the fork is bound to generate a new round of enthusiasm
+</I>&gt;<i> and new users should be encouraged.
+</I>
+New users for Mageia (not seen yet) or new customers for Mandriva company?
+
+&gt;<i> So, all new users coming here to figure out what the fork noise is all
+</I>&gt;<i> about, should be steered to the regular Mandriva downloads and
+</I>&gt;<i> mandrivausers.org. They should not be discouraged from using Mandriva.
+</I>
+I think it would be essential for existing users of Mandriva to see
+clearly the position of Mageia vs. Mandriva.
+
+Pardon my &quot;politically incorrect&quot; questions, but nevertheless:
+
+1) Is Mageia just a publicity stunt to generate some more users for
+the same Mandriva, as it might be understood from your letter?
+
+2) Is Mageia a &quot;better Mandriva&quot; keeping good values of Mandriva, as
+it might be understood from Jerome Quelin letter in
+<A HREF="http://lwn.net/Articles/406058/">http://lwn.net/Articles/406058/</A> ?
+
+3) Is Mageia some completely new distribution to be built from scratch
+and having nothing in common with Mandriva Linux, as it might be
+understood from several letters here in mageia-discuss list?
+
+So, which is real position of Mageia (if any)?
+
+Harijs
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+<PRE>I just read a message from Ciprian Stoica about the same thing.
+
+Sure there are others.
+
+I'd recommend you all get together and start working on artwork, image, propaganda and such.
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
+
+
+
+On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:27 AM, Shawn Thompson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">superfox436 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Okay, do we have any plans for artwork, site software, site content licensing, etc? This would be a good place to start.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shawn
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+
+Don't worry: our English is quite good :)
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
+
+
+
+On Sep 19, 2010, at 12:57 AM, &quot;Cesar Vargas&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">VaCi0 at astrolabio.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hello everybody, my name is Cesar Vargas (a.k.a. VaC|0) Blogdrake packager, I'm very happy with the creation of the Mageia. I'm willing to help with the packaging and more as I can.
+</I>&gt;<i> Good luck to all.
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for my English.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cesar Vargas
+</I>&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux Registered User: 423743
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux Registered Machine: 331399
+</I>&gt;<i> Key GPG: 61513A1E
+</I>&gt;<i> Finger Printing: 263E 102B B8ED 8F2B 2ACE ED31 9FAD 9DFD 6151 3A1E
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _____________________________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Gana un iPod Gratis en
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.astrolabio.net">http://www.astrolabio.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Horoscopo Gratis
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mibrujito.com">http://www.mibrujito.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Chistes y Videos
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mejoreschistes.com">http://www.mejoreschistes.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+<PRE>Le 19/09/2010 15:22, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Will donations also be used to keep the former Edge-IT team focused on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not fixed for now. We have to speak about this. But it can be an
+</I>&gt;<i> option.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I would vote for it.
+
+I don't think that such a great project can be successful if some people
+are not full time on it.
+
+ Daniel
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 03:52:11AM -0400, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have bought and am pointing the domain <A HREF="http://www.mageia.ca">http://www.mageia.ca</A> to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> site. All of the best of luck. I will try to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contribute more when I can.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just for the boards information, I've done the same for mageia.nl .
+</I>
+For the logs: mageia.de is finally registered on my name and will show
+the German announcement text including a link to mageia.org and
+mandrivauser.de
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-19 09:16, William Bagwell a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sunday 19 September 2010, Maurice wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, that would be a good move, but personally I would prefer a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> newsgroup (simply because it's more convenient), if that were
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> possible.
+</I>&gt;<i> I would love to see this too, but would prefer it be a private server
+</I>&gt;<i> newsgroup rather than a true usenet newsgroup. (One of those will happen
+</I>&gt;<i> as soon as someone sends a control message and there is nothing we can do
+</I>&gt;<i> to stop it) A private server newsgroup can be controlled in ways usenet
+</I>&gt;<i> groups can not be...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And *this* mailing list can be gated to the newsgroup once it is up and
+</I>&gt;<i> running as Mailman already has a &quot;Mail&lt;-&gt;News gateways&quot; built in.
+</I>
+Unfortunately, ISP's are in the habit of dropping Usenet access these
+days. The are fewer and fewer access points to the Usenet. Sign of the
+times.
+
+There should definitely be a formal mailist and forum board under the
+umbrella of the Mageia group. That way, the Mageia community will be in
+charge of its own communication process rather than be at the mercy of
+potential whim of mailist/forum owners. It is difficult to control and
+disseminate information when you are not in control of your own
+advertising tools. One just has to look at any formal foundation group
+who have gone through this process.
+
+Marc
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Pardon my &quot;politically incorrect&quot; questions, but nevertheless:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) Is Mageia just a publicity stunt to generate some more users for
+</I>&gt;<i> the same Mandriva, as it might be understood from your letter?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) Is Mageia a &quot;better Mandriva&quot; keeping good values of Mandriva, as
+</I>&gt;<i> it might be understood from Jerome Quelin letter in
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://lwn.net/Articles/406058/">http://lwn.net/Articles/406058/</A> &#160;?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) Is Mageia some completely new distribution to be built from scratch
+</I>&gt;<i> and having nothing in common with Mandriva Linux, as it might be
+</I>&gt;<i> understood from several letters here in mageia-discuss list?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, which is real position of Mageia (if any)?
+</I>
+The real position is the one you can read in the announcement on
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A> - it was written by the founders of Mageia, not by
+any 3rd party. In this announcement it gives clear answers to your
+questions, especially the first question should be answered 100%.
+
+wobo
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+ <B>SinnerBOFH</B>
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+<PRE>On Sep 19, 2010, at 3:12 AM, &quot;herman&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">herman at aeronetworks.ca</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Yes, there should only be *one* English forum and the
+</I>&gt;<i> mageiausers.org/mandrivausers.org forum should probably be it, because
+</I>&gt;<i> it already exists and is hosted for free by a FOSS supporting
+</I>&gt;<i> university.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If multiple language fora are required, then they should all clearly
+</I>&gt;<i> reference each other so that users can click on a flag and jump to the
+</I>&gt;<i> other forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should avoid having multiple redundant and unknown/confusing fora
+</I>&gt;<i> like Mandriva currently has.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> H.
+</I>
+I agree 100%
+
+For example, Mandriva's official support forum for Spanish language is <A HREF="http://BlogDrake.net">http://BlogDrake.net</A>
+
+And it is self-evident that <A HREF="http://BlogDrake.net">http://BlogDrake.net</A> will become Mageia's official support forum for Spanish language
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+Thank you for the initiative Mageia, I hope that this new distribution will
+be of type rolling release.
+Or if it is not the case, make a deposit up to date for the applications
+lighthouse as vlc, firefox etc....
+It will attract a great deal of user and will mark down you 700 existing
+distributions.
+Kind regards,
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+this going. I have some ESX servers hosted in a datacenter. I can offer
+free hosting and space so you can deploy servers you may need for this
+project. They are not monster machines but I think they can be useful.
+
+
+
+I can also offer to write how-to's and guides in English and maybe Greek
+(got to brush up on my Greek), general IT support and advice on strategy
+and management and implementation of various projects.
+
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+Cheers
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+Dino Edwards (deeztek)
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+&gt;<i> On 2010-09-18 at 20:55 I said:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mailing lists are a good start, but we need to get a Web Forum
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> up and running as soon as possible.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, that would be a good move, but personally I would prefer a
+</I>&gt;<i> newsgroup (simply because it's more convenient), if that were
+</I>&gt;<i> possible.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> /\/\aurice Batey (Retired in Surrey, UK)
+</I>&gt;<i> Using Mandriva 2010.1
+</I>
+Hi Maurice,
+
+I love USENET, been on it since mid 90's. But it's dying and new Linux users do not know that it even exists.
+
+Today web forum is the only way Mageia will be noticed.
+
+Sad but true.
+
+Salut,
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+&gt;<i> I have some resources (albeit limited) that I&#8217;m willing to offer to get
+</I>&gt;<i> this going. I have some ESX servers hosted in a datacenter. I can offer free
+</I>&gt;<i> hosting and space so you can deploy servers you may need for this project.
+</I>&gt;<i> They are not monster machines but I think they can be useful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks for your proposal ! we are working on a more general plan to collect
+all necessary ressources
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can also offer to write how-to&#8217;s and guides in English and maybe Greek
+</I>&gt;<i> (got to brush up on my Greek), general IT support and advice on strategy and
+</I>&gt;<i> management and implementation of various projects.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Great, we will need you :) Stay tuned we will start soon to give more
+information to organize contributions
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dino Edwards (deeztek)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +00-1-443-203-9415
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First a big thank to all support for mageia project. This is just
+</I>&gt;<i> incredible :). About infrastructure, meaning build system for
+</I>&gt;<i> distro, forums, web sites... we are starting working on it and we
+</I>&gt;<i> would like to be able to start with clean situation. Having it
+</I>&gt;<i> dispatched in lots of different place will make it difficult to
+</I>&gt;<i> maintain. So it's not we don't want help or so, we are just
+</I>&gt;<i> taking some time to start properly and in a clean way so we can
+</I>&gt;<i> have all good conditions for contribution. But brainstorm can
+</I>&gt;<i> goes on as we saw some discussion on logos, design...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> btw we should have soon a way to accept donations as we will need
+</I>&gt;<i> to start with servers and hosting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Again thanks for all this support and long life to Mageia :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>
+With so much interest in a new project, I'm sure there will be
+plenty of people willing to donate some start-up money, but can you
+also please set up a system for monthly donations? It's difficult
+for any organisation to plan ongoing activities without having some
+idea of ongoing funding.
+
+--
+Margot
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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+We teach, you learn...
+...and, if you don't do your homework, we set the cat on you!
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With so much interest in a new project, I'm sure there will be
+</I>&gt;<i> plenty of people willing to donate some start-up money, but can you
+</I>&gt;<i> also please set up a system for monthly donations? It's difficult
+</I>&gt;<i> for any organisation to plan ongoing activities without having some
+</I>&gt;<i> idea of ongoing funding.
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+That's a good idea indeed. We will dig in it.
+Cheers
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+&gt;<i> On Sep 19, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Maurice &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mailing lists are a good start, but we need to get a Web Forum
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; up and running as soon as possible.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, that would be a good move, but personally I would prefer a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; newsgroup (simply because it's more convenient), if that were
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; possible.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Maurice,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I love USENET, been on it since mid 90's. But it's dying and new Linux users do not know that it even exists.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Today web forum is the only way Mageia will be noticed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sad but true.
+</I>
+But one thing doesn't have to exclude the other, does it? Even though
+having NNTP groups may not be very visible, I would be happy having them.
+Perhaps even some gatewaying can be done not just between the mailing list
+and the newsgroups, but perhaps even to the forum boards?
+
+Besides... despite what the popular opinion might be, you don't have to be
+a rocket scientist to be on usenet! Many newsgroups have actually improved
+in quality in recent years in my opinion.
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+I made a logo for Mageia:
+<A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
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+Is there any contest or something else?
+
+I accept any constructive comments ;-)
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 09:44:50AM -0400, SinnerBOFH wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sep 19, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Maurice &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mailing lists are a good start, but we need to get a Web Forum
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; up and running as soon as possible.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;Yes, that would be a good move, but personally I would prefer a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; newsgroup (simply because it's more convenient), if that were
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; possible.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Maurice,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I love USENET, been on it since mid 90's. But it's dying and new Linux users do not know that it even exists.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Today web forum is the only way Mageia will be noticed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sad but true.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But one thing doesn't have to exclude the other, does it? Even though
+</I>&gt;<i> having NNTP groups may not be very visible, I would be happy having them.
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps even some gatewaying can be done not just between the mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> and the newsgroups, but perhaps even to the forum boards?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides... despite what the popular opinion might be, you don't have to be
+</I>&gt;<i> a rocket scientist to be on usenet! Many newsgroups have actually improved
+</I>&gt;<i> in quality in recent years in my opinion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kind regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remco
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Although it's true what you say about usenet (I remember a very good
+time on oulm (was that correct?)) and I loved reading lots of groups
+with Emacs-Gnus, today the webforums are the way to go in userland as
+mailinglists are the preferred plattforms in devland.
+
+I think the main goal should be to keep everything as centralized as
+possible. Announcements (to the users and the public) must be in the
+same place as user discussions and support. Gates from one to another
+platform are there but they are also sources of missing mails/postings
+or inconsistent discussion threads.
+
+The chaotic way of news publishing at Mandriva (sometimes even hidden
+in blogs), discussions of the same topic taking place in several
+plattforms (see MUGs forum and mailing list) was a nightmare, let's
+not repeat the mistake.
+
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+
+2010/9/19 gejo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">gejobj at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there any contest or something else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I accept any constructive comments ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
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+gejo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">gejobj at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there any contest or something else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I accept any constructive comments ;-)
+</I>
+ so Nice :)
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+Filipe Saraiva &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">filip.saraiva at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> &gt; I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is there any contest or something else?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I accept any constructive comments ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _________________________
+</I>
+Nice job :)
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+&gt;<i> Oh, very cool!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 gejo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">gejobj at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is there any contest or something else?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I accept any constructive comments ;-)
+</I>
+Yes, the image looks cool and I do not have a constructive comment.
+But to me this is a very strong reminder of Mandrakelinux.
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+
+2010/9/19 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Filipe Saraiva &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">filip.saraiva at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Oh, very cool!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2010/9/19 gejo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">gejobj at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Is there any contest or something else?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I accept any constructive comments ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, the image looks cool and I do not have a constructive comment.
+</I>&gt;<i> But to me this is a very strong reminder of Mandrakelinux.
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+&gt;<i> Le 19 sept. 2010 &#224; 14:51, Harijs Buss &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">harijs at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> \Everything that happened in Mandriva life is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> past and does not have anything to do with current starting project.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed. But unrelated. Anne did not mean to &quot;forget&quot; what happened (and we certainly won't).
+</I>
+I'm not sure about this question to ask Ga&#235;l, I understand the reasons
+Anne gave, but OTOH Ga&#235;l still has a name in Open Source and he would
+attract some attention.
+But then again it would look as if Mageia wants to correct mistakes
+Mandriva made - well, that's true in a way, isn't it?
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+&gt;<i> Pardon my &quot;politically incorrect&quot; questions, but nevertheless:
+</I>
+there are no politcally incorrect questions. with mageia, we'll try to
+be as transparent as possible, to avoid doing the same errors (come on,
+there are a whole lot of other possible mistakes to be done! :-) )
+
+&gt;<i> 1) Is Mageia just a publicity stunt to generate some more users for
+</I>&gt;<i> the same Mandriva, as it might be understood from your letter?
+</I>
+no. mageia is a mandriva fork, and there's no plan to re-unite the
+forks. there will be 2 separated distributions, each with their own
+goals &amp; achievements.
+
+
+&gt;<i> 2) Is Mageia a &quot;better Mandriva&quot; keeping good values of Mandriva, as
+</I>&gt;<i> it might be understood from Jerome Quelin letter in
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://lwn.net/Articles/406058/">http://lwn.net/Articles/406058/</A> ?
+</I>
+note that the mail i sent to cooker mailing list was just a copy of
+ <A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
+
+the goal is to use mandriva as the technical base, and grow it as a
+community-oriented project. so we aim at keeping what's good in
+mandriva, and enhance it where it's needed.
+
+
+&gt;<i> 3) Is Mageia some completely new distribution to be built from scratch
+</I>&gt;<i> and having nothing in common with Mandriva Linux, as it might be
+</I>&gt;<i> understood from several letters here in mageia-discuss list?
+</I>
+it's a fork: the base will be mandriva. but once mageia's infrastructure
+is in place, we'll start updating packages &amp; the distribution as a whole
+- this means that codebase will diverge more &amp; more with time.
+
+i hope this answers your questions.
+
+j&#233;r&#244;me
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+<PRE>Thanks everybody for comments.
+
+I've tried to made something related to mandrake and magic with same colours
+as mandriva logo has got. The result is what you can see.
+
+
+Bye :-)
+
+
+
+On Domingo, 19 de Septiembre de 2010 16:18:43 Wolfgang Bornath escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Filipe Saraiva &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">filip.saraiva at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Oh, very cool!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2010/9/19 gejo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">gejobj at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Is there any contest or something else?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I accept any constructive comments ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, the image looks cool and I do not have a constructive comment.
+</I>&gt;<i> But to me this is a very strong reminder of Mandrakelinux.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Romain d'Alverny&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 19 sept. 2010 &#224; 14:51, Harijs Buss&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">harijs at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Anne nicolas&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> \Everything that happened in Mandriva life is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> past and does not have anything to do with current starting project.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed. But unrelated. Anne did not mean to &quot;forget&quot; what happened (and we certainly won't).
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure about this question to ask Ga&#235;l, I understand the reasons
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne gave, but OTOH Ga&#235;l still has a name in Open Source and he would
+</I>&gt;<i> attract some attention.
+</I>&gt;<i> But then again it would look as if Mageia wants to correct mistakes
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva made - well, that's true in a way, isn't it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>I think the underlying note here is that if Ga&#235;l wishes to take part in
+the project, then he will join and contribute on his own if he wishes. I
+am sure he knows about this by now.
+
+Marc
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+&gt;<i> no. mageia is a mandriva fork, and there's no plan to re-unite the
+</I>&gt;<i> forks. there will be 2 separated distributions, each with their own
+</I>&gt;<i> goals &amp; achievements.
+</I>&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;<i> it's a fork: the base will be mandriva. but once mageia's infrastructure
+</I>&gt;<i> is in place, we'll start updating packages &amp; the distribution as a whole
+</I>&gt;<i> - this means that codebase will diverge more &amp; more with time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Not really, IMHO. Nothing stops Mandriva company from using Mageia packages,
+nor Mageia project from using Mandriva work at any time in the future. WDYT?
+Similarly, nothing prevents Mageia from sharing code and resources with the
+rest of Linux community, distros etc.
+
+If so, I would rephrase that statement:
+Mageia has forked the Mandriva company, where the distro had been developed so
+far. This means that the Mageia project is and will forever be an autonomous
+project, not depending on the Mandriva company. Mageia is free, community
+based.
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+&gt;<i> I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I> ++
+
+(hope Mandriva company doesn't mind about the star)
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+Le 19 sept. 2010 &#224; 16:35, P. Christeas a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> On Sunday 19 September 2010, gejo wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ++
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (hope Mandriva company doesn't mind about the star)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I was thinking exactly the same thing when I saw that logo.
+
+Maybe the star should be replaced by something related to &quot;community&quot;.
+
+Daniel
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+</I>&gt;<i> If so, I would &#160;rephrase that statement:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia has forked the Mandriva company, where the distro had been developed so
+</I>&gt;<i> far. This means that the Mageia project is and will forever be an autonomous
+</I>&gt;<i> project, not depending on the Mandriva company. Mageia is free, community
+</I>&gt;<i> based.
+</I>
+Well, strictly speaking you are mixing 2 different things:
+Mandriva (the company) is one thing and Mandriva Linux is another. The
+name &quot;Mandriva Linux&quot; belongs to the company, as the logo and maybe
+some images do. But the distribution &quot;Mandriva Linux&quot; belongs to
+nobody and is as free and autonomous as Mageia or any other community
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+ <B>Diego Bello</B>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 19 sept. 2010 &#224; 16:35, P. Christeas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sunday 19 September 2010, gejo wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ++
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (hope Mandriva company doesn't mind about the star)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was thinking exactly the same thing when I saw that logo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe the star should be replaced by something related to &quot;community&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Daniel
+</I>
+
+I can't imagine a figure for community, but what about a moon, or half
+moon instead of a star?
+
+
+--
+Diego Bello Carre&#241;o
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+ <B>Farfouille</B>
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+<PRE> Love it !
+
+May I suggest you to try a more abstract version (less figurative) ? I'm
+not sure it will render as well when reduced in the top left corner of
+future Mageia gnome desktop ;)
+Can't try myself, I can't draw.
+
+Thanks
+
+Le 19/09/2010 16:14, gejo a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there any contest or something else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I accept any constructive comments ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
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+&gt;<i> i hope this answers your questions.
+</I>&gt;<i> j&#233;r&#244;me
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+Yes, thank you.
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+<PRE>Le 19/09/2010 16:53, Diego Bello a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Daniel Le Berre &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">le.berred at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 19 sept. 2010 &#224; 16:35, P. Christeas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sunday 19 September 2010, gejo wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ++
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (hope Mandriva company doesn't mind about the star)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was thinking exactly the same thing when I saw that logo.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe the star should be replaced by something related to &quot;community&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Daniel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't imagine a figure for community, but what about a moon, or half
+</I>&gt;<i> moon instead of a star?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Couldn't find a good proposal either.
+
+What about shaking hands?
+
+Daniel
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+----- Original Message -----
+From: &quot;Anne nicolas&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: &quot;mageia-discuss&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:53:10 AM
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+Hi there
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+First a big thank to all support for mageia project. This is just incredible :). About infrastructure, meaning build system for distro, forums, web sites... we are starting working on it and we would like to be able to start with clean situation. Having it dispatched in lots of different place will make it difficult to maintain. So it's not we don't want help or so, we are just taking some time to start properly and in a clean way so we can have all good conditions for contribution. But brainstorm can goes on as we saw some discussion on logos, design...
+
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+btw we should have soon a way to accept donations as we will need to start with servers and hosting.
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+<PRE>I would make a logo basically between a monitor and an orb (meaning the
+'magic' of the distro and technology at the same time - the technology
+magic) ...
+
+On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Farfouille &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">farfouille64 at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Love it !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> May I suggest you to try a more abstract version (less figurative) ? I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> not sure it will render as well when reduced in the top left corner of
+</I>&gt;<i> future Mageia gnome desktop ;)
+</I>&gt;<i> Can't try myself, I can't draw.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 16:14, gejo a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is there any contest or something else?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I accept any constructive comments ;-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
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+a penguin footprint or something. If we make the potential occultness as
+moot as possible, that'd be okay. I can't think of any other magic symbols
+already trademarked by a third-party Linux vendor. :X
+
+Shawn
+
+On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:19 AM, isadora &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">isis2000 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Yeah, you should stick a fork into it.;-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Filipe Saraiva &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">filip.saraiva at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Oh, very cool!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 2010/9/19 gejo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">gejobj at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Is there any contest or something else?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I accept any constructive comments ;-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, the image looks cool and I do not have a constructive comment.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But to me this is a very strong reminder of Mandrakelinux.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<A HREF="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png">http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png</A>
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+We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro.
+
+Any ideas without repeating concepts?
+
+Greetings;)
+----- Mensaje original -----
+De: Farfouille
+Enviado: 19-09-10 16:54
+Para: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
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+Love it ! May I suggest you to try a more abstract version (less figurative) ? I'm not sure it will render as well when reduced in the top left corner of future Mageia gnome desktop ;) Can't try myself, I can't draw. Thanks Le 19/09/2010 16:14, gejo a &#233;crit : &gt; I made a logo for Mageia: &gt; <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A> &gt; &gt; Is there any contest or something else? &gt; &gt; I accept any constructive comments ;-) &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks. &gt; _______________________________________________ &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Daniel Le Berre &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">le.berred at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 19 sept. 2010 &#224; 16:35, P. Christeas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Sunday 19 September 2010, gejo wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ++
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (hope Mandriva company doesn't mind about the star)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I was thinking exactly the same thing when I saw that logo.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe the star should be replaced by something related to &quot;community&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Daniel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't imagine a figure for community, but what about a moon, or half
+</I>&gt;<i> moon instead of a star?
+</I>
+
+I don't think we have to avoid stars, just one star that looks like the
+one Mandriva uses. Nobody can have a monopoly on stars in every colour
+and shape.
+
+This is my idea for a logo (it's just a rough draft):
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxtech.net/files/mageia-logo-draft1.jpg">http://www.linuxtech.net/files/mageia-logo-draft1.jpg</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxtech.net/files/mageia-logo-draft1.svg">http://www.linuxtech.net/files/mageia-logo-draft1.svg</A>
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+<A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</A>
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+
+Great!!!
+
+
+Cheers
+
+
+2010/9/19 nosXw &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mail.nosxw at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Another logo by an blogdrake.net user, GualaDrake:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</A>
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+&gt;<i> This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png">http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any ideas without repeating concepts?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Greetings;)
+</I>
+The font is not bad, but the colour is too dark and I think it needs to
+be svg (vector graphics) to be usable.
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+&gt;<i> Another logo by an blogdrake.net user, GualaDrake:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</A>
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+That makes me think of black magic, Mageia is white magic!
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+&gt;<i> nosXw
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Great!!!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 nosXw &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mail.nosxw at gmail.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mail.nosxw at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another logo by an blogdrake.net &lt;<A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A>&gt; user,
+</I>&gt;<i> GualaDrake:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10106344/imagenes/Logos/Mageia/mageia-1.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>I like too. Very nice
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 15:49:57, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; With so much interest in a new project, I'm sure there will be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; plenty of people willing to donate some start-up money, but can you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; also please set up a system for monthly donations? It's difficult
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for any organisation to plan ongoing activities without having some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; idea of ongoing funding.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's a good idea indeed. We will dig in it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Someone on irc suggested to have a look to how Linux Mint manages donations :
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxmint.com/donors.php">http://www.linuxmint.com/donors.php</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxmint.com/sponsors.php">http://www.linuxmint.com/sponsors.php</A>
+
+It doesn't look bad.
+
+Samuel
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+ <B>Malcer Quaid</B>
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+<PRE>Well, I like the font.
+Better a minimalist design to fit more modern and professional? A flat and smooth color, for example.
+
+;)
+
+Malcer
+----- Mensaje original -----
+De: Tux99
+Enviado: 19-09-10 17:23
+Para: Mageia general discussions
+Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+
+On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Malcer Quaid wrote: &gt; This is my idea for a Mageia logo. What do you think? &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png">http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png</A> &gt; &gt; We need something to put on the menu buttons, which give personality to the distro. &gt; &gt; Any ideas without repeating concepts? &gt; &gt; Greetings;) The font is not bad, but the colour is too dark and I think it needs to be svg (vector graphics) to be usable. _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+Malcer
+
+ext4 Blog, el rinc&#243;n de Malcer
+
+<A HREF="http://ext4.wordpress.com">http://ext4.wordpress.com</A>
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+ <B>John Schneiderman</B>
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+
+I'm sorry but I've lost the first discussion on this topic, as I just
+subscribed to the list, and there are not archives yet in the mailman
+page.
+
+I've been providing hosting for Blogdrake project the last few years.
+And now we live in OVH's Paris datacenters (<A HREF="http://www.ovh.net">http://www.ovh.net</A>). Our
+las acquisition is a new server kimsufi 250G
+(<A HREF="http://www.kimsufi.com/ks/">http://www.kimsufi.com/ks/</A>) just installed with Mandriva 2010.1 and
+that is not in use yet. That will be the home of Blogdrake.net,
+Noticiasdrale.net and related projects...
+
+What I wanted to say is that OVH is a very, very reliable, fast, and
+good provider. We're very happy with them, and their ranges and prices
+of servers are of a very good quality/price.
+
+Even, they provide mirroring for some free software projects, and
+maybe, as a french provider, they could be receptive to collaborate
+with Mageia in some way (I don't eally know, but it's just an idea).
+
+Anyway, if you need anything, please don't hesitate to ask for help to
+Spanish-speaking community.
+
+Hasta Pronto
+
+--
+&#160;F&#233;lix Martos Trenado
+
+
+
+
+2010/9/19 Lawrence A Fossi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">darkfoss at comcast.net</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hopefully a paypal button will appear on the mageia site soon :)
+</I>&gt;<i> ----- Original Message -----
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Anne nicolas&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;mageia-discuss&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:53:10 AM
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First a big thank to all support for mageia project. This is just incredible
+</I>&gt;<i> :). About infrastructure, meaning build system for distro, forums, web
+</I>&gt;<i> sites... we are starting working on it and we would like to be able to start
+</I>&gt;<i> with clean situation. Having it dispatched in lots of different place will
+</I>&gt;<i> make it difficult to maintain. So it's not&#160;we don't want help or so, we are
+</I>&gt;<i> just taking some time to start properly and in a clean way so we can have
+</I>&gt;<i> all good conditions for contribution. But brainstorm can goes on as we saw
+</I>&gt;<i> some discussion on logos, design...
+</I>&gt;<i> btw we should have soon a way to accept donations as we will need to start
+</I>&gt;<i> with servers and hosting.
+</I>&gt;<i> Again thanks for all this support and long life to Mageia :)
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001991.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001956.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001963.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001989.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001994.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001928.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001964.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001966.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001977.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001981.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001983.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001990.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001935.html">[Mageia-discuss] TEST please ignore
+</A><A NAME="1935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="20">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001936.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001951.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001960.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001993.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000000.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="0">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000006.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="6">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fr&#233;d&#233;ric CUIF
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001954.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001980.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chris
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001988.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001987.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000001.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000005.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="5">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="9">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="21">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001912.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Israel de Le&#243;n Cord&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien DAL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001929.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm fully behind this move.
+</A><A NAME="1929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001942.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hmm.
+</A><A NAME="1942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001996.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="23">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Drakedalfa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Drakedalfa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001969.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to offer help
+</A><A NAME="1969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dino Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alaa Elian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001908.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chris Evans
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001992.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Farfouille
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000011.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="11">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Farfouille
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001995.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000012.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="12">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001899.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Walt Frampus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000004.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm on board with this
+</A><A NAME="4">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Walt Frampus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jes&#250;s Garc&#237;a
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001889.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping
+</A><A NAME="1889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stephen Germany
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001901.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001910.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia greek community
+</A><A NAME="1910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="16">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001952.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001968.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001933.html">[Mageia-discuss] About me
+</A><A NAME="1933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001941.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-discuss] Offering help
+</A><A NAME="143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JOSE-Glasnosh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001907.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001998.html">[Mageia-discuss] Registration of mageialinux.in and some web space...
+</A><A NAME="1998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="2">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="7">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001997.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lirodon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lirodon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lirodon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-discuss] Offering all my help, and adding me to the list.
+</A><A NAME="155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LuismaGo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001886.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000147.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001891.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Brian Maddox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001973.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="2009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Martos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Martos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Martos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001949.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out
+</A><A NAME="1948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001922.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>VARVOU Jean Michel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002005.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>VARVOU Jean Michel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>VARVOU Jean Michel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-discuss] Perhaps I can help
+</A><A NAME="117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christopher Molnar
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001919.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping
+</A><A NAME="1919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001930.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001986.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001921.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping if I can
+</A><A NAME="1921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rolf Pedersen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nuno Pinheiro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nuno Pinheiro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nuno Pinheiro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001999.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001931.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] community magazine of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001984.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001917.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pacho Ramos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vinet Rapha&#235;l
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001914.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001923.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001950.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001975.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001943.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001887.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001893.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia greek community
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001894.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001978.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Schneiderman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000014.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="14">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Schneiderman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Schneiderman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Moreau Serge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bart Simons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001900.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001959.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm with Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001961.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork, and perhaps the web site too
+</A><A NAME="1961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="1962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001967.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001970.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001904.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001905.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-discuss] Doing my little bit
+</A><A NAME="111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001924.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm with Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ciprian Stoica
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ciprian Stoica
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001903.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeremiah Summers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Taylor
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001925.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork, and perhaps the web site too
+</A><A NAME="1925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shawn Thompson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001906.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aracele Torres
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001909.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aracele Torres
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Troumad
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bernard Siaud alias Troumad
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-discuss] French Traduction
+</A><A NAME="107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bernard Siaud alias Troumad
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="3">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tulum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002000.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002004.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000015.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="15">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001932.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to lend a hand
+</A><A NAME="1932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001895.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001939.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="8">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="10">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="13">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000022.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="22">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001926.html">[Mageia-discuss] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="1926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cesar Vargas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making this list more efficient
+</A><A NAME="145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Erwan Velu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bersuit Vera
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001897.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001940.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002006.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="2006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001888.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva-se.org
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David V. Wallin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001890.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing Paul Willard
+</A><A NAME="1890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001913.html">[Mageia-discuss] Web hosting for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001916.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001902.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001972.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001918.html">[Mageia-discuss] salut tous
+</A><A NAME="1918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>deny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001976.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001985.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001911.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001920.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001927.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hermit
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001982.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="97">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001934.html">[Mageia-discuss] Count me in
+</A><A NAME="1934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001915.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping if I can
+</A><A NAME="1915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>michael at margrave.biz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to offer help
+</A><A NAME="1971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001974.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002001.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nosXw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nosXw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001979.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>patrick.2
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>patrick.2
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>patrick.2
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001892.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greetings
+</A><A NAME="1892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nor thern
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001938.html">[Mageia-discuss] test
+</A><A NAME="1938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bubar at tuxfamily.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000162.html">[Mageia-discuss] flickr group for logo proposals
+</A><A NAME="162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Sep 19 23:58:29 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 15:42:58 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
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+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>19 September 2010 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Sep 19 00:48:35 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 19 23:58:29 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 292<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001886.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001887.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001888.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001889.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping
+</A><A NAME="1889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stephen Germany
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001890.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing Paul Willard
+</A><A NAME="1890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001891.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Brian Maddox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001892.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greetings
+</A><A NAME="1892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nor thern
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001893.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001894.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001895.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001896.html">[Mageia-discuss] Web hosting for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sam Bailey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001897.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001898.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Praveen A
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001899.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Walt Frampus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001900.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001901.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001902.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001904.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001903.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeremiah Summers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001905.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001906.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aracele Torres
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001907.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001908.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chris Evans
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001909.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aracele Torres
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001910.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia greek community
+</A><A NAME="1910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001911.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001912.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Israel de Le&#243;n Cord&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001913.html">[Mageia-discuss] Web hosting for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001926.html">[Mageia-discuss] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="1926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cesar Vargas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001915.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping if I can
+</A><A NAME="1915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>michael at margrave.biz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001914.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001916.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001917.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001918.html">[Mageia-discuss] salut tous
+</A><A NAME="1918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>deny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001921.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping if I can
+</A><A NAME="1921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rolf Pedersen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001919.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping
+</A><A NAME="1919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001920.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001922.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>VARVOU Jean Michel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001924.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm with Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ciprian Stoica
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001923.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001925.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork, and perhaps the web site too
+</A><A NAME="1925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shawn Thompson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001927.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001928.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001930.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001929.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm fully behind this move.
+</A><A NAME="1929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001931.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] community magazine of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001932.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to lend a hand
+</A><A NAME="1932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001933.html">[Mageia-discuss] About me
+</A><A NAME="1933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001934.html">[Mageia-discuss] Count me in
+</A><A NAME="1934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001935.html">[Mageia-discuss] TEST please ignore
+</A><A NAME="1935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001939.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001938.html">[Mageia-discuss] test
+</A><A NAME="1938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bubar at tuxfamily.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001936.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001940.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001941.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001942.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hmm.
+</A><A NAME="1942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001943.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jes&#250;s Garc&#237;a
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001949.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out
+</A><A NAME="1948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001951.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001950.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001952.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001954.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001955.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>William Bagwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001956.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001959.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm with Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001960.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001961.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork, and perhaps the web site too
+</A><A NAME="1961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="1962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001964.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001966.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001963.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001973.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001969.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to offer help
+</A><A NAME="1969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dino Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001967.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001968.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001970.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to offer help
+</A><A NAME="1971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001972.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001974.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001975.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001977.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001976.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001978.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001980.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001979.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>patrick.2
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001981.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001982.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001983.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001984.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001988.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001985.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001986.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001987.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001989.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001990.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001995.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001991.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001992.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Farfouille
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002000.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Schneiderman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001993.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001996.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001997.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lirodon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001994.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001999.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001998.html">[Mageia-discuss] Registration of mageialinux.in and some web space...
+</A><A NAME="1998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002001.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nosXw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002004.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002005.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>VARVOU Jean Michel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002006.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="2006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000000.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="0">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="2009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Martos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000006.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="6">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000001.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="3">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tulum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="2">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000004.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm on board with this
+</A><A NAME="4">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Walt Frampus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000012.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="12">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000005.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="5">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="7">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="8">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="9">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="10">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000011.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="11">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Farfouille
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="13">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000014.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="14">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Schneiderman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000015.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="15">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="16">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Schneiderman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="21">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000022.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="22">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="20">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="23">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Drakedalfa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Drakedalfa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Martos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva-se.org
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David V. Wallin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LuismaGo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Moreau Serge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vinet Rapha&#235;l
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bart Simons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nuno Pinheiro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ciprian Stoica
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nuno Pinheiro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>VARVOU Jean Michel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia greek community
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bersuit Vera
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>patrick.2
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alaa Elian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fr&#233;d&#233;ric CUIF
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="97">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pacho Ramos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lirodon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Troumad
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bernard Siaud alias Troumad
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Praveen A
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-discuss] French Traduction
+</A><A NAME="107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bernard Siaud alias Troumad
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nuno Pinheiro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-discuss] Doing my little bit
+</A><A NAME="111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lirodon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-discuss] Perhaps I can help
+</A><A NAME="117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christopher Molnar
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Martos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Taylor
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>patrick.2
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hermit
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-discuss] Offering help
+</A><A NAME="143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JOSE-Glasnosh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making this list more efficient
+</A><A NAME="145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Erwan Velu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000147.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien DAL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-discuss] Offering all my help, and adding me to the list.
+</A><A NAME="155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chris
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000162.html">[Mageia-discuss] flickr group for logo proposals
+</A><A NAME="162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nosXw
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Sep 19 23:58:29 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 15:42:58 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
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+ <h1>19 September 2010 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Sep 19 00:48:35 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 19 23:58:29 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 292<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001931.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] community magazine of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001933.html">[Mageia-discuss] About me
+</A><A NAME="1933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001976.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001978.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001980.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001979.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>patrick.2
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001981.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001982.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001988.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001985.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001989.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001991.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001992.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Farfouille
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002000.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Schneiderman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001996.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001997.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lirodon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001994.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001999.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002001.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nosXw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002004.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002005.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>VARVOU Jean Michel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000000.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="0">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000006.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="6">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000001.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="9">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000011.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="11">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Farfouille
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="13">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="16">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="20">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="23">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Drakedalfa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Drakedalfa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Martos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LuismaGo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Moreau Serge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vinet Rapha&#235;l
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bart Simons
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nuno Pinheiro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ciprian Stoica
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nuno Pinheiro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>VARVOU Jean Michel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bersuit Vera
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>patrick.2
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alaa Elian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="97">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pacho Ramos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Taylor
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>patrick.2
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chris
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001925.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork, and perhaps the web site too
+</A><A NAME="1925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shawn Thompson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001961.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork, and perhaps the web site too
+</A><A NAME="1961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nosXw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001949.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001955.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>William Bagwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001970.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001975.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001977.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="8">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001934.html">[Mageia-discuss] Count me in
+</A><A NAME="1934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-discuss] Doing my little bit
+</A><A NAME="111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000147.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien DAL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nuno Pinheiro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000162.html">[Mageia-discuss] flickr group for logo proposals
+</A><A NAME="162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-discuss] French Traduction
+</A><A NAME="107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bernard Siaud alias Troumad
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001898.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Praveen A
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001899.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Walt Frampus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001900.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001902.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001903.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeremiah Summers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001906.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aracele Torres
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001907.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001908.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chris Evans
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001912.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Israel de Le&#243;n Cord&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Praveen A
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001956.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001963.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001973.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001974.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001995.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002006.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="2006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="2009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Martos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="2">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001936.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001943.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jes&#250;s Garc&#237;a
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001951.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001972.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001983.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001986.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fr&#233;d&#233;ric CUIF
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001901.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001892.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greetings
+</A><A NAME="1892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nor thern
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000012.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="12">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000015.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="15">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Schneiderman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000022.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="22">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Troumad
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bernard Siaud alias Troumad
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001889.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping
+</A><A NAME="1889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stephen Germany
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001919.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping
+</A><A NAME="1919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001915.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping if I can
+</A><A NAME="1915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>michael at margrave.biz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001921.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping if I can
+</A><A NAME="1921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rolf Pedersen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out
+</A><A NAME="1948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001888.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001904.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001894.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001942.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hmm.
+</A><A NAME="1942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001929.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm fully behind this move.
+</A><A NAME="1929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000004.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm on board with this
+</A><A NAME="4">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Walt Frampus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001924.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm with Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ciprian Stoica
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001959.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm with Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001895.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001897.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001917.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001939.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001940.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001941.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hermit
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001890.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing Paul Willard
+</A><A NAME="1890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001952.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001954.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001968.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="3">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tulum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000005.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="5">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="7">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="10">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000014.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="14">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Schneiderman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="21">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Martos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001910.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia greek community
+</A><A NAME="1910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia greek community
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making this list more efficient
+</A><A NAME="145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Erwan Velu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva-se.org
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David V. Wallin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001911.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001914.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001916.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001920.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001923.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001927.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001928.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001930.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001950.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001960.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001964.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001966.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001967.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001984.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001987.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001990.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001993.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-discuss] Offering all my help, and adding me to the list.
+</A><A NAME="155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-discuss] Offering help
+</A><A NAME="143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JOSE-Glasnosh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-discuss] Perhaps I can help
+</A><A NAME="117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christopher Molnar
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001926.html">[Mageia-discuss] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="1926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cesar Vargas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="1962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001998.html">[Mageia-discuss] Registration of mageialinux.in and some web space...
+</A><A NAME="1998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001918.html">[Mageia-discuss] salut tous
+</A><A NAME="1918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>deny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001938.html">[Mageia-discuss] test
+</A><A NAME="1938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bubar at tuxfamily.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001935.html">[Mageia-discuss] TEST please ignore
+</A><A NAME="1935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001896.html">[Mageia-discuss] Web hosting for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sam Bailey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001913.html">[Mageia-discuss] Web hosting for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lirodon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lirodon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001886.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001887.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001891.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Brian Maddox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001893.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001905.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001909.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aracele Torres
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001922.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>VARVOU Jean Michel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001932.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to lend a hand
+</A><A NAME="1932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001969.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to offer help
+</A><A NAME="1969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dino Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to offer help
+</A><A NAME="1971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Sep 19 23:58:29 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 15:42:58 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
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+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>19 September 2010 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Sep 19 00:48:35 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 19 23:58:29 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 292<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01284850115- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001886.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284850115-01284852486- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001887.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284850115-01284852486-01284854651- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001891.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Brian Maddox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284850115-01284852486-01284854651-01284857011- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001893.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284850115-01284866581- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001905.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284850115-01284866581-01284869820- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001909.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aracele Torres
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284852773- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001888.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284852773-01284865856- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001904.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284853188- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001889.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping
+</A><A NAME="1889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stephen Germany
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284853995- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001890.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing Paul Willard
+</A><A NAME="1890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284855838- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001892.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greetings
+</A><A NAME="1892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nor thern
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284857135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001894.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hi everybody
+</A><A NAME="1894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284857747- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001895.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284857747-01284862821- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001897.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284857747-01284862821-01284895151- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001939.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284857747-01284862821-01284895151-01284897158- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001940.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284857747-01284862821-01284895151-01284897158-01284897744- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001941.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284857747-01284874191- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001917.html">[Mageia-discuss] IMPORTANT POINTS, imho
+</A><A NAME="1917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284861194- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001896.html">[Mageia-discuss] Web hosting for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sam Bailey
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284861194-01284871383- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001913.html">[Mageia-discuss] Web hosting for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284864145- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001898.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Praveen A
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284864145-01284864580- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001899.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Walt Frampus
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284864145-01284865380- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001900.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284864145-01284865380-01284865649- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001902.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284864145-01284865380-01284865649-01284866151- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001903.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeremiah Summers
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284864145-01284865380-01284865649-01284866151-01284866798- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001906.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Aracele Torres
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284864145-01284865380-01284865649-01284866151-01284868746- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001908.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chris Evans
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284864145-01284865380-01284865649-01284866151-01284871112- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001912.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Israel de Le&#243;n Cord&#243;n
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284865617- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001901.html">[Mageia-discuss] Greek translation
+</A><A NAME="1901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284866858- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001907.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284870685- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001910.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia greek community
+</A><A NAME="1910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284870914- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001911.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284870914-01284872524- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001914.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001916.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001920.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284876872- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001923.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284876872-01284880357- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001927.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284876872-01284880357-01284881967- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001928.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284876872-01284880357-01284881967-01284882731- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001930.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284876872-01284880357-01284881967-01284882731-01284900687- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001950.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284876872-01284880357-01284881967-01284882731-01284900687-01284903066- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001964.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284876872-01284880357-01284903485- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001967.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284902824- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001960.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284902824-01284903288- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001966.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284902824-01284906517- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001984.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284902824-01284906517-01284907303- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001987.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284902824-01284906517-01284907303-01284907892- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001990.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284870914-01284872524-01284873849-01284875282-01284902824-01284906517-01284908373- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001993.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="1993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284872245- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001926.html">[Mageia-discuss] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="1926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cesar Vargas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284872245-01284902980- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="1962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284872310- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001915.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping if I can
+</A><A NAME="1915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>michael at margrave.biz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284872310-01284874927- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001921.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping if I can
+</A><A NAME="1921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rolf Pedersen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284874257- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001918.html">[Mageia-discuss] salut tous
+</A><A NAME="1918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>deny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284874995- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001919.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping
+</A><A NAME="1919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284875362- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001922.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>VARVOU Jean Michel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284875362-01284902593- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284876534- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001924.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm with Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ciprian Stoica
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284876534-01284902764- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001959.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm with Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284877636- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001925.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork, and perhaps the web site too
+</A><A NAME="1925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shawn Thompson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284877636-01284902880- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001961.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork, and perhaps the web site too
+</A><A NAME="1961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284884601- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001929.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm fully behind this move.
+</A><A NAME="1929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284888342- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001931.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] community magazine of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284888673- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001932.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to lend a hand
+</A><A NAME="1932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284889825- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001933.html">[Mageia-discuss] About me
+</A><A NAME="1933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284890648- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001934.html">[Mageia-discuss] Count me in
+</A><A NAME="1934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284892712- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001935.html">[Mageia-discuss] TEST please ignore
+</A><A NAME="1935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284895548- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001938.html">[Mageia-discuss] test
+</A><A NAME="1938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>bubar at tuxfamily.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284895695- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001936.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284895695-01284895991- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284895695-01284897799- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001943.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284895695-01284897799-01284898230- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284895695-01284897799-01284898230-01284899076- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284895695-01284897799-01284898230-01284899521- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jes&#250;s Garc&#237;a
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284895695-01284897799-01284898230-01284900683- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001951.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Harijs Buss
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284895695-01284897799-01284898230-01284900683-01284904043- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001972.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284895695-01284897799-01284898230-01284900683-01284904043-01284906215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001983.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284895695-01284897799-01284898230-01284900683-01284904043-01284906215-01284907277- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001986.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01284895695-01284897799-01284899032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move
+</A><A NAME="1945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284897761- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001942.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hmm.
+</A><A NAME="1942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284899771- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001949.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284899771-01284902163- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001955.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>William Bagwell
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284899771-01284902163-01284903222- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284899771-01284903890- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001970.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284899771-01284903890-01284904523- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001975.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284899771-01284903890-01284904523-01284905664- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001977.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="1977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284900185- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out
+</A><A NAME="1948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284900724- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001952.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284900724-01284900896- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001954.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284900724-01284900896-01284903830- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001968.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284900790- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284900790-01284902545- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001956.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284900790-01284902545-01284902523- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284900790-01284902545-01284902523-01284903296- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001963.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284900790-01284903364- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001973.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284900790-01284903364-01284904197- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001974.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284900790-01284903364-01284904197-01284910032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002006.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="2006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284900790-01284907940- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001995.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="1995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284900790-01284907940-01284910374- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="2009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Martos
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284902653- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284903384- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001969.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to offer help
+</A><A NAME="1969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dino Edwards
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284903384-01284903980- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to offer help
+</A><A NAME="1971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284905670- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001976.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284905670-01284905689- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001978.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284905670-01284905689-01284905892- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001980.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01284905670-01284905689-01284905923- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001981.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284905670-01284905689-01284905923-01284905996- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001982.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284905670-01284905689-01284905923-01284905996-01284908566- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001997.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lirodon
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284905670-01284905689-01284905923-01284907099- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001985.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284905670-01284905906- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001979.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>patrick.2
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284905670-01284906933- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001988.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284905670-01284906933-01284907723- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001989.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284905670-01284906933-01284907723-01284908027- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001991.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284905670-01284906933-01284907723-01284908027-01284908175- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002000.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284905670-01284906933-01284907723-01284908027-01284908649- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001994.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01284905670-01284906933-01284908373- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Schneiderman
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284905670-01284908086- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001992.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Farfouille
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284905670-01284908086-01284908443- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001996.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284905670-01284909744- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002001.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nosXw
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284905670-01284909744-01284909807- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284905670-01284909744-01284909807-01284909965- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002005.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>VARVOU Jean Michel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01284905670-01284909744-01284909912- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002004.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284909137- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001999.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284909137-01284909811- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284909483- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001998.html">[Mageia-discuss] Registration of mageialinux.in and some web space...
+</A><A NAME="1998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284910157- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="2007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284910206- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000000.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="0">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284910432- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000006.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="6">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284910432-01284912628- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284910695- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000001.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="1">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284910695-01284912625- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="23">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Drakedalfa
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284910707- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000003.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="3">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tulum
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284910707-01284910906- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000005.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="5">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284910707-01284911045- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000007.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="7">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284910707-01284911161- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="10">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284910707-01284911161-01284911655- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000014.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="14">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Schneiderman
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="21">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284912974- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284925807- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284925807-01284926500- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284925807-01284926500-01284926692- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284925807-01284926659- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Martos
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284925807-01284926867- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284925807-01284928649- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284925807-01284928649-01284929723- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284926163- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284926673- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284926883- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284926883-01284927386- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284926883-01284927386-01284927579- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910707-01284911161-01284912015-01284913023-01284913805-01284925274-01284926883-01284929591- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284910711- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000002.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="2">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284910744- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000004.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'm on board with this
+</A><A NAME="4">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Walt Frampus
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284910858- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000012.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="12">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284910858-01284911696- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000015.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="15">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284910858-01284911696-01284911867- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Schneiderman
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01284910858-01284911696-01284911874- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284910858-01284911696-01284911874-01284912664- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910858-01284911696-01284911874-01284912883- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910858-01284911696-01284911874-01284912883-01284913807- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910858-01284911696-01284911874-01284912883-01284913807-01284920941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910858-01284911696-01284911874-01284912883-01284913807-01284920941-01284922154- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910858-01284911696-01284911874-01284912883-01284913807-01284920941-01284922154-01284923541- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910858-01284911696-01284911874-01284912883-01284913807-01284920941-01284925594- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910858-01284911696-01284911874-01284912883-01284913995- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284910858-01284911696-01284911874-01284913880- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01284910858-01284911696-01284912042- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000022.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="22">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284911067- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000008.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="8">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284911079- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000009.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="9">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284911227- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000011.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="11">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Farfouille
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284911227-01284911703- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="16">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="20">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284912665- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284912736- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Drakedalfa
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284912736-01284912873- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Martos
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284912736-01284912873-01284913955- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284912736-01284912873-01284916721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284912736-01284912873-01284916721-01284917333- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284912736-01284912873-01284916721-01284917910- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284912906- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LuismaGo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284913968- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284914862- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bart Simons
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284916292- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ciprian Stoica
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284916463- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284912156-01284917381- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01284911227-01284911703-01284913088- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Moreau Serge
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284913088-01284913161- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01284911227-01284911703-01284913650- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Vinet Rapha&#235;l
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01284911227-01284911703-01284917131- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284917131-01284918436- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284917131-01284918524- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284917131-01284918524-01284918702- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284917131-01284918524-01284919668- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284917131-01284921486- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01284911227-01284911703-01284917207- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01284911227-01284911703-01284919177- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>VARVOU Jean Michel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284919177-01284919465- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284919177-01284919465-01284920524- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284919177-01284919465-01284920828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284919177-01284919465-01284920828-01284921124- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bersuit Vera
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284911227-01284911703-01284919177-01284919465-01284921285- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>patrick.2
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01284911227-01284911703-01284932346- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chris
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284911592- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="13">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284911721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284911721-01284917292- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284912897- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva-se.org
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David V. Wallin
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284913762- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284913762-01284922144- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fr&#233;d&#233;ric CUIF
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284913762-01284922144-01284924015- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284913789- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Global infrastructure
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284913933- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284914004- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284914445- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284914445-01284915214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284914445-01284915214-01284915778- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284914445-01284916780- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284914445-01284916780-01284919826- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-discuss] Packaging games (Was: IMPORTANT POINTS)
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284914631- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284915268- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284915268-01284917327- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284915268-01284917327-01284919430- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01284915268-01284917327-01284920456- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284915268-01284920531- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284915390- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nuno Pinheiro
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284916487- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284916487-01284917930- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284916487-01284917930-01284919630- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01284916487-01284917930-01284919930- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284916621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284916621-01284918512- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284916621-01284918512-01284919462- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01284916621-01284918512-01284920943- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284918720- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nuno Pinheiro
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284918720-01284922431- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="97">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284918720-01284926056- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284918720-01284927287- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284918720-01284927287-01284927472- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>HacKurx
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284918720-01284927287-01284927472-01284928911- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284918720-01284927287-01284927472-01284928911-01284929048- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean Peyratout
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284918720-01284927287-01284927472-01284928911-01284929048-01284929114- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>patrick.2
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284920490- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia greek community
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284920542- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284921830- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alaa Elian
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284921830-01284922102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284921830-01284922980- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pacho Ramos
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284921830-01284922980-01284926491- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284921830-01284923254- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284921830-01284923254-01284924708- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284922466- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malcer Quaid
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284923715- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lirodon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284923715-01284924123- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284923715-01284924123-01284926031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lirodon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284923715-01284924123-01284926031-01284929729- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284923739- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Troumad
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284924014- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bernard Siaud alias Troumad
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284924496- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-discuss] FSF backing would be a huge boost for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Praveen A
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284924791- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-discuss] French Traduction
+</A><A NAME="107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bernard Siaud alias Troumad
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284925485- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nuno Pinheiro
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284925702- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-discuss] Doing my little bit
+</A><A NAME="111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284926058- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-discuss] Perhaps I can help
+</A><A NAME="117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christopher Molnar
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284928774- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284928774-01284931047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284928774-01284931047-01284931582- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284928774-01284931047-01284931582-01284931674- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284928774-01284931119- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284928774-01284931119-01284931747- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284928774-01284931119-01284931747-01284932315- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284928920- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Taylor
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284929273- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hermit
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284929430- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284929475- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284929475-01284929602- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284929475-01284929602-01284929758- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284929475-01284929602-01284929758-01284929953- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284929475-01284933281- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284930051- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284930051-01284930407- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284930051-01284930407-01284930810- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000147.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284930051-01284930407-01284930810-01284932101- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien DAL
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01284930051-01284930407-01284930869- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284930051-01284930407-01284930869-01284932236- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284930243- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-discuss] Offering help
+</A><A NAME="143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JOSE-Glasnosh
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284930652- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-discuss] Making this list more efficient
+</A><A NAME="145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Erwan Velu
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284930719- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-discuss] Helping out with infrastructure
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+<I>Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>Le 19/09/2010 23:38, Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 23:29, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not anymore, since there's an extension(SNI or something) that can have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> multiple SSL vhosts (doesn't work for IE in win XP)
+</I>&gt;<i> That's true, and I just fixed the issue. Not however you have to trust
+</I>&gt;<i> the zarb.org certification authority (<A HREF="http://www.zarb.org">http://www.zarb.org</A>) to avoid a
+</I>&gt;<i> warning about unknown certificate issuer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW, the only thing which doesn't work without SNI support is the
+</I>&gt;<i> selection of the correct certificate for a specific vhost.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>
+Hello Guillaume
+
+I don't know if this has a relationship, but
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/</A> return now a 404 error
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+<PRE>2010/9/19 Andr&#233; Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Rolling releases are fine to users, but many sys admins wouldn't use it on
+</I>&gt;<i> a server, by example.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If,on the one hand, a rolling-release distro would be more economical and
+</I>&gt;<i> easy to mantain for development team, think that neither all user have high
+</I>&gt;<i> speed connections to download the whole system updated at installation time
+</I>&gt;<i> or update packages day to day.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --- Em *dom, 19/9/10, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;*escreveu:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> De: Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> Para: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 17:37
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Op zondag 19 september 2010 21:50:07 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 21:41:14, HacKurx a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; First of all excuse me for my English.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I am one who thinks that rolling release distributions sounds the
+</I>&gt;<i> future.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Why?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Because the user no longer has to worry about are system and benefits
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; from recent versions of software.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Now on libraries, xorg etc.... it may very well release a new version
+</I>&gt;<i> for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; inclusion.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; So imagine every six months a new version but in the meantime the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; software most used to constantly updated in a repository (this is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; equivalent to ubuntu ppa in some ways but stable and under control).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; So I think it would be nice to create a repository &quot;rolling release&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; containing software commonly used example: firefox, vlc, liferea,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; thunderbird, mplayer.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; As you will not break the system because no library, xorg etc. will be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; updated.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; +1 repository &quot;rolling release&quot; commonly used for software (vlc,
+</I>&gt;<i> smplayer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; etc ...)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have no experience with rolling releases, but as I hope that Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> will,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; like Mandriva Linux, remain suitable for desktop, server, and enterprise
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; use. So I really hope each version will be stable, maintained and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; thoroughly tested. I'm not sure that a rolling release permits that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&lt;<A HREF="http://mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">http://mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> &lt;<A HREF="http://mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org">http://mc/compose?to=Mageia-discuss@mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Maybe some kind of hybrid?
+
+It's just an idea on my mind but i try to explain:
+
+The system's design, could be as modular as possible. A &quot;core&quot; with the
+basic system and admin tools (including graph or not), and use ideas like
+meta-packages or delta-rpm to include &quot;layers&quot; over it, communicating with
+the core with &quot;connectors&quot; or so.
+
+Using this design, we'll have a fully-stable core system, and we'll can
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+<PRE>Le 20/09/2010 00:00, Yann Ciret a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello Guillaume
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if this has a relationship, but
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/</A> return now a 404 error
+</I>Yes, I forgot something in the configuration, but Olivier just fixed it.
+--
+BOFH excuse #137:
+
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+All 3 Mageia mailing lists are now also on gmane.org where they can
+be followed via nntp too.
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+<A HREF="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel">nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel</A>
+
+mageia-discuss:
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+
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+<A HREF="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.announce">http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.announce</A>
+<A HREF="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.announce">nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.announce</A>
+
+The announce list will only show up once it gets a first post.
+
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+
+&gt;<i> Hello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I come here because I like my Mandriva. I can found besser : this month, I
+</I>&gt;<i> have tested Debian, OpenSuse or Fedora because I was afraid for Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i> I now, for me, the new name of Mandriva is Mageia. Isn't it ?
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Hi, Bernard.
+
+No. Mageia is not the new name for Mandriva. Mageia is a fork from MDV.
+
+Former employees, community leaders, collaborators and many people from
+communities arround the world are joining to this project.
+
+The project's objective is create a new distro, based on Mandriva, but
+outside from it.
+
+Hope you agree this objectives and join us!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-19 17:14, St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 2010-09-19 17:00, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What about domain names like mageia-edu etc. ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A.Sala&#252;n
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess thatedu.mageia.org &lt;<A HREF="http://edu.mageia.org">http://edu.mageia.org</A>&gt; is better...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would suggest that website domains start as much as possible
+</I>&gt;<i> with mageia.xxxx. etc for product branding. People will remember
+</I>&gt;<i> the brand more easily that way. Let's make it easy for people to
+</I>&gt;<i> find the distro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> xxx.mageia.org &lt;<A HREF="http://xxx.mageia.org">http://xxx.mageia.org</A>&gt; seems better, see:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://doc.ubuntu.com/">http://doc.ubuntu.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://help.ubuntu.com/">https://help.ubuntu.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/">http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://docs.fedoraproject.org">http://docs.fedoraproject.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.fedoraproject.org/">http://planet.fedoraproject.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://software.opensuse.org">http://software.opensuse.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://build.opensuse.org/">https://build.opensuse.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Stef
+</I>
+I guess the structure should be as conventional as possible. I am note
+aware if the is a convention with site naming for organizations.
+However, I usually favour any structure that makes it absolutely as easy
+as possible for users to find the main site. Keeping a structure with
+&quot;mageia&quot; as a prefix would accomplish that and would make it simple for
+the initiated to the distro to find any associated sites under its
+umbrella. Keeping it simple will bring in more users.
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+<PRE> El 19/09/10 23:40, Andr&#233; Machado escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> I suggest what 1st Mageia version be called &quot;Xavante&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro Conectiva
+</I>&gt;<i> was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some
+</I>&gt;<i> Conectiva users tried to create a fork called Xavante - just like is
+</I>&gt;<i> happening now-, but the distro was not ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename was adopted
+</I>&gt;<i> and would recognize the Brazilians what are part of Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> operatting system and, now, from Mageia operatting system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>I suggest codename &quot;Fenix&quot; for 1st Mageia versi&#243;n.
+Its a magic name.
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+Am 20.09.2010 00:13, schrieb Tux99:
+&gt;<i> All 3 Mageia mailing lists are now also on gmane.org where they can
+</I>&gt;<i> be followed via nntp too.
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> The announce list will only show up once it gets a first post.
+</I>Shouldn't the initial announcement of the fork be posted there, then?
+This would allow people to subscribe to all three lists in one go.
+
+Ad astra, Markus
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+On dimanche 19 septembre 2010 at 22:47, hermit wrote :
+&gt;<i> A new distro trying to get off the ground and way too many of these
+</I>&gt;<i> posts are on 'artwork'. There will come a time when I'm sure there will
+</I>&gt;<i> be a contest for the community at large to get involved, in the meantime
+</I>&gt;<i> you risk running off folks like myself that just can't be bothered with
+</I>&gt;<i> the volume of emails about stuff that is of low importance right now.
+</I>
+I think the the branding of the distribution is quite important (and I
+believe the founder of the fork did think so, as they had the name well
+though out before actually announcing it).
+This list is for general discussions, if you prefer to avoid those &quot;lesser
+importance&quot; discussion I believe that's what the dev list is about.
+
+I really think we should no refrain the enthusiasms of everybody, and the
+logo contest allow all the people who don't have the same technical skills
+to actually be part of the very birth of this new distribution.
+
+That, of course, was only my own opinion, and I hope you won't be
+discouraged by all the effervescence on the list. This is all very positive,
+really :-)
+
+Cheers
+--
+Renaud Michel
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+ <B>Luca Olivetti</B>
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+&gt;<i> We could use &quot;Lazarus&quot;, giving a response to all people ou' there was
+</I>&gt;<i> speaking the &quot;death&quot; of Mandriva and it's community.
+</I>
+There's already a free software project called Lazarus
+<A HREF="http://lazarus.freepascal.org">http://lazarus.freepascal.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> On dimanche 19 septembre 2010 at 22:47, hermit wrote :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; A new distro trying to get off the ground and way too many of these
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; posts are on 'artwork'. There will come a time when I'm sure there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will be a contest for the community at large to get involved, in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; meantime you risk running off folks like myself that just can't be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bothered with the volume of emails about stuff that is of low
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; importance right now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think the the branding of the distribution is quite important (and I
+</I>&gt;<i> believe the founder of the fork did think so, as they had the name well
+</I>&gt;<i> though out before actually announcing it).
+</I>&gt;<i> This list is for general discussions, if you prefer to avoid those
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;lesser importance&quot; discussion I believe that's what the dev list is
+</I>&gt;<i> about.
+</I>
+Reading back my answer, it may look a bit aggressive, that was not my
+intention (english is not my native language), I am myself very enthusiast
+about what's going on here.
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+
+-mensaje original-
+Asunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+De: nosXw &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mail.nosxw at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Fecha: 19/09/2010 23:58
+
+I think it's an excellent idea, it would be a wink and a gift to the community of Brazil, a gift more than deserved,
+because after the purchase of Conectiva this community was abandoned by Mandriva.
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+</I>&gt;<i> the volume of emails about stuff that is of low importance right now.
+</I>
+Get a proper mailing-list reader and just ignore threads you are not
+interested in. I'm also really positively surprised at how much
+enthusiasm community has brought into so far.
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+<PRE>2010/9/20 Luca Olivetti &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">luca at ventoso.org</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Al 19/09/10 23:54, En/na vfmBOFH ha escrit:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could use &quot;Lazarus&quot;, giving a response to all people ou' there was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> speaking the &quot;death&quot; of Mandriva and it's community.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's already a free software project called Lazarus
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://lazarus.freepascal.org">http://lazarus.freepascal.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bye
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Luca
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Yes, i know. But Leonidas it's a movie character and a codename for a fedora
+release at the same time. And it's not necessary talk about Debian's
+codenames... :)
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Machado</B>
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+<PRE>There is a Free Pascal IDE similar to classic Delphi named Lazarus.
+
+--- Em dom, 19/9/10, vfmBOFH &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">vfmbofh at gmail.com</A>&gt; escreveu:
+
+De: vfmBOFH &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">vfmbofh at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Assunto: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+Para: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Data: Domingo, 19 de Setembro de 2010, 18:54
+
+
+
+2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+ Le 19/09/2010 23:40, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit&#160;:
+
+
+
+
+ I suggest what 1st
+ Mageia version be called &quot;Xavante&quot;
+
+
+
+ Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro
+ Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the
+ late 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork
+ called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+ distro was not ahead.
+
+
+
+ Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename
+ was adopted and would recognize the Brazilians as part of
+ Mandriva operatting system and, now, from Mageia operating
+ system.
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+ I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more
+ symbolic name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even for
+ people that are not inside the community. Sadly Xavante will not
+ mean anything for people from outside, that's why a much more
+ powerful name would be better to have a great meaning (and why not
+ link it to the artwork? Well, that'll be to determine in the
+ future).
+
+
+
+ Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the pre-releases of
+ the first stable release for Mageia could be really nice.
+
+
+
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+My two cents:
+We could use &quot;Lazarus&quot;, giving a response to all people ou' there was speaking the &quot;death&quot; of Mandriva and it's community.
+
+Cheers
+
+-----Anexo incorporado-----
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+ <B>hermit</B>
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+<PRE>On 09/19/2010 06:44 PM, Adrian Marcinkowski wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> folks like myself that just can't be bothered with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the volume of emails about stuff that is of low importance right now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Get a proper mailing-list reader and just ignore threads you are not
+</I>&gt;<i> interested in. I'm also really positively surprised at how much
+</I>&gt;<i> enthusiasm community has brought into so far.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&quot;Get a proper mailing-list reader and just ignore threads you are not
+interested in.&quot;
+
+The organizers specifically chose email over forum and have stated why
+they made the choice. I have been involved with lists, including
+running them for many years. I can tell you that it is pretty much a
+fact of life, as volume (noise) goes up, people unsubscribe.
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Machado</B>
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+<PRE>Well, just now everyone is having many good ideas related to logo, codename and other stuffs. Will the decision power people in Mageia consider what we are writig here? Or in that list/irc channel we can talk directily with main developers/directors?
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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
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+<PRE>Sophie just said me she would be happy to join our project and to help
+anyone of us.
+
+Since a lot IRC chan were created and setting the configuration is a bit
+tricky here rules and how to have Sophie on your favorite channel:
+
+- the chan must be on Freenode (my code can't handle several server
+ properly :\)
+- at time the default distribution will be 'Mandriva', because Mageia
+ don't exist yet...
+ - once 'cooker' for Mageia will exist, I will change the setting to
+ point on Mageia for channel pointing to Mdv cooker
+ - other channel will have to wait the first release
+- be sure everyone on the chan agree to have the bot listening
+- check she is not already on the chan (the case for #mageia,
+ #mageia-fr, #mageia-dev).
+
+To have the bot on your chan please send me a mail directly (don't
+load the list for this) with:
+- the name of the chan
+- the default version Sophie must reply to (eg 2010.1 or cooker)
+- the default architecture (i586 or x86_64).
+
+I'll do it in 2 or 3 days, after most of reply to this call.
+
+Regards.
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS - LATMOS
+&#9814; &#9816; &#9815; &#9813; &#9812; &#9815; &#9816; &#9814;
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+ <B>Sadiq Saif</B>
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+reading suggestions/ideas in both the mailing list and the IRC channel. But
+they are more likely to be present in the IRC channel from previous
+experience.
+
+Sadiq S
+mailto: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sadiq.9541 at gmail.com</A>
+Blog: www.staticsafe.me
+Twitter - www.twitter.com/staticsafe
+Facebook- www.facebook.com/static.safe
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+
+
+2010/9/19 Andr&#233; Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Well, just now everyone is having many good ideas related to logo, codename
+</I>&gt;<i> and other stuffs. Will the decision power people in Mageia consider what we
+</I>&gt;<i> are writig here? Or in that list/irc channel we can talk directily with main
+</I>&gt;<i> developers/directors?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+
+&gt;<i> Well, just now everyone is having many good ideas related to logo, codename
+</I>&gt;<i> and other stuffs. Will the decision power people in Mageia consider what we
+</I>&gt;<i> are writig here? Or in that list/irc channel we can talk directily with main
+</I>&gt;<i> developers/directors?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi, Andr&#233;.
+
+This mail list are the first basic infrastructure to connect the community.
+And yes, all the opinions are welcome.
+
+Don't forget it's only been two days since the first announcement. Please,
+be patient. I know people involved in the &quot;internals&quot; are working realy hard
+to provide better forms to communicate. And be sure the awesome feedback
+from this list are arriving to them.
+
+We have everything to do. So, all is possible!
+
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 09:14:30, gejo a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there any contest or something else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I accept any constructive comments ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
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+Very good
+
+I wonder if we can do a cartoon of Merlin :) The greatest white magician :)
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-19 17:54, vfmBOFH a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 23:40, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I suggest what 1st Mageia version be called &quot;Xavante&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the late
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork called Xavante
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - just like is happening now-, but the distro was not ahead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> adopted and would recognize the Brazilians as part of Mandriva
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> operatting system and, now, from Mageia operating system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more
+</I>&gt;<i> symbolic name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even for
+</I>&gt;<i> people that are not inside the community. Sadly Xavante will not
+</I>&gt;<i> mean anything for people from outside, that's why a much more
+</I>&gt;<i> powerful name would be better to have a great meaning (and why not
+</I>&gt;<i> link it to the artwork? Well, that'll be to determine in the future).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the pre-releases of
+</I>&gt;<i> the first stable release for Mageia could be really nice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My two cents:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could use &quot;Lazarus&quot;, giving a response to all people ou' there was
+</I>&gt;<i> speaking the &quot;death&quot; of Mandriva and it's community.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+I think this would be an extremely kind gesture in recognition of the
+Brazilian contribution of the Conectiva code as well as a partner in the
+growth and popularity of Mandriva. Not to mention that Brazil does have
+a population of 200 million people.
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-19 19:52, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 09:14:30, gejo a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I made a logo for Mageia:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/gejo/posible-logo-para-mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is there any contest or something else?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I accept any constructive comments ;-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Very good
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wonder if we can do a cartoon of Merlin :) The greatest white magician :)
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Seeing as Mageia (you can hear a proper pronunciation in greek here:
+<A HREF="http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3095">http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3095</A>) is of greek
+descent, maybe a mythological figure could be explored?
+
+Marc
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+<PRE>Xavante is a good name, representing the tribe, the community.
+It is very good, and a beautiful tribute to Conectiva.
+
++1
+
+2010/9/19 Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Le 2010-09-19 17:54, vfmBOFH a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/19 Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 23:40, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I suggest what 1st Mageia version be called &quot;Xavante&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro Conectiva was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some Conectiva users
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tried to create a fork called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distro was not ahead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename was adopted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and would recognize the Brazilians as part of Mandriva operatting system
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and, now, from Mageia operating system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess the first release of Mageia will need to have a more symbolic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> name, like Fedora has, a name that is symbolic even for people that are not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> inside the community. Sadly Xavante will not mean anything for people from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> outside, that's why a much more powerful name would be better to have a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> great meaning (and why not link it to the artwork? Well, that'll be to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> determine in the future).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yet, using Xavante as a little name for one of the pre-releases of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> first stable release for Mageia could be really nice.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My two cents:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could use &quot;Lazarus&quot;, giving a response to all people ou' there was
+</I>&gt;<i> speaking the &quot;death&quot; of Mandriva and it's community.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listMageia-discuss at mageia.orghttps</A>://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think this would be an extremely kind gesture in recognition of the
+</I>&gt;<i> Brazilian contribution of the Conectiva code as well as a partner in the
+</I>&gt;<i> growth and popularity of Mandriva. Not to mention that Brazil does have a
+</I>&gt;<i> population of 200 million people.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Dale Huckeby</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Jean Peyratout wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 19:18, Dale Huckeby a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Malcer wrote :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png">http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2718/mageiaidealogo.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ./. I like the image just as it is. It evokes the idea of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> magic without looking silly. Really good design.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + 1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fair wizardry, no fear...
+</I>&gt;<i> The simplest the best, thanks to Malcer.
+</I>
+Um, that's not the one I was praising. It was <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg.">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg.</A>
+The latter is a clean and modern design, evocative of the name, slightly mysterious with the flames
+rising from the orb, just a really, really nice design. Cuddly penguins and what always looked like
+a star-shaped pillow always left me feeling faintly embarrassed at the amateurish look. This one
+doesn't look amateurish at all.
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+<PRE>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, VARVOU Jean Michel wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le 19/09/2010 17:55, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit&#160;:
+</I>&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an inspiration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu button etc
+</I>
+Didn't realize the origin of these images but still hope one of them can be used. I like the first
+one better. The second is a little busy and not as effective or elegant.
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+
+Em 19 de setembro de 2010 17:50, Andr&#233; Machado &lt;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br</A>&gt; escreveu:
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+&gt;<i> People,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now that the distro is starting, it's easier to define the course of the
+</I>&gt;<i> project. We have to make sure we're doing the right thing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Something to be discussed is whether the distro will follow the guidelines
+</I>&gt;<i> of the FSF and have only free software on it. This is something to be widely
+</I>&gt;<i> discussed: support for the Stallman's group could be very advantageous, but
+</I>&gt;<i> would sacrifice the end user experience. Proprietary software could be
+</I>&gt;<i> placed in a separate repository. Another point is that according GPL, all
+</I>&gt;<i> source code should be available.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But something the distro MUST have as an option to the user - that would
+</I>&gt;<i> bring a lot of free software activists for our side - regardless of the
+</I>&gt;<i> choice to be made in relation to this requirement as is the ability to
+</I>&gt;<i> install your kernel linux-libre .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Basically, linux-libre is a fork of the Linux kernel maintained by the FSF
+</I>&gt;<i> Latin America that has no binary blobs. Currently, there are very few
+</I>&gt;<i> distros that offer it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I believe he should be in the repositories or on the installation media,
+</I>&gt;<i> where the user can install a system with it by typing something like
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;install = libre&quot; or something similar at boot time of this media. Of
+</I>&gt;<i> course, we offer regular Linux kernel as default.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For more information, see:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/">http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Dale Huckeby</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Chris wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 17:55 +0200, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> inspiration
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kmenu button etc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The second one is excellent!
+</I>
+I prefer the first one. It's cleaner, the name is more legible, and the elements (the orb and the
+name) are well-placed relative to each other.
+
+Dale Huckeby
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+<PRE>On 20 September 2010 02:36, Olivier Thauvin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Sophie just said me she would be happy to join our project and to help
+</I>&gt;<i> anyone of us.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since a lot IRC chan were created and setting the configuration is a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> tricky here rules and how to have Sophie on your favorite channel:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - the chan must be on Freenode (my code can't handle several server
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;properly :\)
+</I>&gt;<i> - at time the default distribution will be 'Mandriva', because Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;don't exist yet...
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- once 'cooker' for Mageia will exist, I will change the setting to
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;point on Mageia for channel pointing to Mdv cooker
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- other channel will have to wait the first release
+</I>&gt;<i> - be sure everyone on the chan agree to have the bot listening
+</I>&gt;<i> - check she is not already on the chan (the case for #mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;#mageia-fr, #mageia-dev).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To have the bot on your chan please send me a mail directly (don't
+</I>&gt;<i> load the list for this) with:
+</I>&gt;<i> - the name of the chan
+</I>&gt;<i> - the default version Sophie must reply to (eg 2010.1 or cooker)
+</I>&gt;<i> - the default architecture (i586 or x86_64).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll do it in 2 or 3 days, after most of reply to this call.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Thauvin
+</I>&gt;<i> CNRS &#160;- &#160;LATMOS
+</I>&gt;<i> &#9814; &#9816; &#9815; &#9813; &#9812; &#9815; &#9816; &#9814;
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest what 1st Mageia version be called &quot;Xavante&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the distro was not ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename was adopted and would recognize the Brazilians what are part of Mandriva operatting system and, now, from Mageia operatting system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Romulo Pires</B>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Andr&#233; Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I suggest what 1st Mageia version be called &quot;Xavante&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro Conectiva was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some Conectiva users tried to create a fork called Xavante - just like is happening now-, but the distro was not ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename was adopted and would recognize the Brazilians what are part of Mandriva operatting system and, now, from Mageia operatting system.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please don't send HTML emails to mailing lists, plain text is preferred.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
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+Xavante represents the very ideals of community, and we are free
+organized!
+
+Vote by Xavante!
++1
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I guess that edu.mageia.org is better...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; xxx.mageia.org seems better, see:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://doc.ubuntu.com/">http://doc.ubuntu.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://help.ubuntu.com/">https://help.ubuntu.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/">http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://docs.fedoraproject.org">http://docs.fedoraproject.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://planet.fedoraproject.org/">http://planet.fedoraproject.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://software.opensuse.org">http://software.opensuse.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://build.opensuse.org/">https://build.opensuse.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Stef
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps just a native langage influence finally.
+</I>
+Please note though, that for mageia.org/xxx to work easily, everything
+will have to be reachable through the same server. For xxx.mageia.org to
+work, you can have a different physical server for xxx than you do for
+yyy.
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+ <B>Diego Bello</B>
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+&gt;<i> wanted to present my idea, somthing fastly made today
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I like it!
+
+&gt;<i> well the idea is very simple and revolves around the fonts, and its outline
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so for exmaple in a educational stand point would be somthing like the
+</I>&gt;<i> colorfull version on the banner
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> on a buisness like presentation a gray solid color
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> on a desktop version plain blue etc etc...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please cc me :)
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot;
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+&gt;<i> My suggestion is made that a technical study of tools and a decision
+</I>&gt;<i> consensus among those who will be responsible for installation and service
+</I>&gt;<i> maintenance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For example, the technical report of infrastructure for KDE using git is a
+</I>&gt;<i> very good job done by the team of sysadmins.&#160;It's technical and exposes why
+</I>&gt;<i> that decision was made.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Follow the link for those interested - can to be very useful as an example
+</I>&gt;<i> to be followed.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a ODT archive:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest&amp;m=127612957219466&amp;q=p3">http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest&amp;m=127612957219466&amp;q=p3</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
+I think Romain has a lot to say here. He knows the needs of the
+current Mandriva site so he can say if the best option is a CMS or a
+custom developed site (Symfony anybody?).
+
+I think the most important feature here is internationalization, cause
+Mageia really needs to show itself to the world, and let me tell you
+the world doesn't speak English only.
+
+--
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+Coordinator of MDKTrans team.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I opened a flickr group :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nicolas
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+SinnerBOFH created a yahoo acoount, plus flickr accoount: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">MageiaLinux at yahoo.com</A>
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+ <B>Liam R E Quin</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 22:51 +0200, Thomas Lottmann wrote:
+&gt;<i> there have been
+</I>&gt;<i> fantastic submissions and proposals for our brand new logo.
+</I>
+I'm swamped with all the mail on on vacation... but it's worth
+pointing out...
+
+First, define the target audience for the distribution:
+. users (technical? non-technical? age group?)
+. investors (current and potential)
+
+Also, places where a logo is likely to be used...
+. small, e.g. 32x32 or 64x64 pixels on the desktop;
+. large, e.g. in printed collateral or signage;
+. magazines and web sites, to distinguish the distribution
+
+Then, constraints, e.g.:
+. may be printed in monochrome
+. must work on a fax machine
+. mobile phone?
+
+A logo is part of brand recognition, and for that to work, you have
+to think about the brand as a whole, and how to make it distinctive:
+colours, fonts, shapes, placement, the usual things...
+
+So, what makes Magia distinct from other Linux distributions?
+
+I used Mandrake Linux because I needed something that
+. installed easily
+. was suitable for both experienced programmers and people new to Linux
+ (regardless of whether they used other operating environments)
+. was up to date with packages/software, and had a wide selection;
+. was widely translated and localised
+
+If that vision is kept up, Mageia has the potential to become a
+major player.
+
+Best,
+
+Liam
+&gt;<i>
+</I>--
+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
+Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org www.advogato.org
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+In my humble opinion the best name for the first version should be
+mageia Sorcerer's Apprentice. With respect I have for the other
+communities I think the name puts us in our historical moment: we are
+learning on the road. Of course the other proposals have great
+intentions but at this moment must prevail as the spirit of unity with
+the sorcerer and his apprentice. We all have something of the
+Apprentice and Sorcerer.
+
+I apologize for my English. I tried to use simple sentences to express
+myself properly.
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+Saludos desde Costa Rica
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+<PRE>2010/9/19 Dino Edwards &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dino.edwards at mydirectmail.net</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can also offer to write how-to&#8217;s and guides in English and maybe Greek
+</I>&gt;<i> (got to brush up on my Greek),
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I> [...]
+
+
+Hi Dino, you can join us in the greek team here :
+<A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/forum/viewforum.php?f=14">http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/forum/viewforum.php?f=14</A>
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+<PRE>I propose the name: Circe
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circe">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circe</A>
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+<PRE>On 19 September 2010 21:12, Maurice &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 2010-09-19 at 18:38 Marc said:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am also on the Mandriva news group and considering the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> amount of &#160;people who use Mandriva, very few seem to make use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of the group, and in contrast, the Mandriva forums were
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pretty active
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; I tried following the Mandriva fora but found they were a
+</I>&gt;<i> sprawl - unfocussed and impersonal compared with the newsgroup,
+</I>&gt;<i> which has helped solve all my problems.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; Indeed, were it not for that excellent newsgroup, I would
+</I>&gt;<i> probably have abandoned Mandriva long ago...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+To each his own, I guess. I am sure some other users are more
+comfortable using a forum. It probably depends to some degree on what
+you started using first, a newsgroup or a forum.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> and the official reps/moderators were at least
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there to listen and respond. I don't believe that any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mandriva rep. was ever on the news group
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;True - they were sheltering in the Mandriva fora!
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> /\/\aurice
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+<PRE>Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:40:43 -0700 (PDT),
+Andr&#233; Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+
+&gt;<i> I suggest what 1st Mageia version be called &quot;Xavante&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Xavante is a Brazil indigene tribe. When Brazilian distro Conectiva
+</I>&gt;<i> was sold to Mandrake to form Mandriva, at the late 2005, some
+</I>&gt;<i> Conectiva users tried to create a fork called Xavante - just like is
+</I>&gt;<i> happening now-, but the distro was not ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would be a surprising and amazing tribute if this codename was
+</I>&gt;<i> adopted and would recognize the Brazilians what are part of Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> operatting system and, now, from Mageia operatting system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think we may not think of 1.000 things for now... Mageia just begin
+and we can see that when we will have infrastructures!
+--
+Sandro Cazzaniga
+Bashburn hacker (<A HREF="http://bashburn.dose.se/">http://bashburn.dose.se/</A>)
+Mageia Contributor (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/">http://www.mageia.org/fr/</A>)
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 18:00:42, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> i agree, they work, are great, and people know these to be good, we need a
+</I>&gt;<i> MCC with everything on it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> some of those are a bit dated, and we could clean up some of the code, but
+</I>&gt;<i> i want to keep those.
+</I>
+The integration of the current MCC with the desktop environment is not very
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+I would like to use Qt tools for my Kde, and Gtk tools for my Gnome.
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+first realease, they will be very similar, with time, they wlll
+diverge.
+
+Long life to Mageia,
+motitos
+
+2010/9/19 Troumad &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">troumad at libertysurf.fr</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> &#160;Hello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I come here because I like my Mandriva. I can found besser : this month, I
+</I>&gt;<i> have tested Debian, OpenSuse or Fedora because I was afraid for Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i> I now, for me, the new name of Mandriva is Mageia. Isn't it ?
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Amicalement vOOotre &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Troumad Alias Bernard SIAUD
+</I>&gt;<i> mon site : <A HREF="http://troumad.org">http://troumad.org</A> : AD&amp;D maths WEB...
+</I>&gt;<i> Pour la libert&#233; <A HREF="http://www.developpez.net/forums/f17/systemes/linux/">http://www.developpez.net/forums/f17/systemes/linux/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> N'envoyez que des documents avec des formats ouverts, comme
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fr.openoffice.org">http://fr.openoffice.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+<PRE>Am Sonntag 19 September 2010, 22:14:47 schrieb Mihai Dobrescu:
+&gt;<i> The colors remind me of google..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Nuno Pinheiro &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nuno at oxygen-icons.org</A>&gt;wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; second version i will repeat the colors on the font s are just an example
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; usage, the idea is that the fonts outlines is the logo, they serve as a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; container of anything
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43661.png
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please cc me :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+Nunos second suggestion is really the best. It looks proffesional and clear.
+It's easy to remember without beeing boring. A webpage which looks like this,
+will get much attention and makes a good feeling.
+
+Regards,
+TeaAge
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect10332.png &#160; ofice use
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png gaming ready
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+</I>&gt;<i> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png general propose
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> enjoy
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot;
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+ <B>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.</B>
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+<PRE>On Sunday, September 19, 2010 21:00 Dale Huckeby wrote:
+ | On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, VARVOU Jean Michel wrote:
+ | &gt; Le 19/09/2010 17:55, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+ | &gt; I imagine something with the magic crystal
+ | &gt;
+ | &gt; Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+ | &gt; inspiration
+ | &gt;
+ | &gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+ | &gt; <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+ | &gt;
+ | &gt; The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in
+ | &gt; kmenu button etc
+ |
+ | Didn't realize the origin of these images but still hope one of them can
+ | be used. I like the first one better. The second is a little busy and
+ | not as effective or elegant.
+ |
+ | Dale Huckeby
+So, take the Globe (Planet Earth) form this one:
+<A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect43660.png
+and replace the magic orb in this one:
+<A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+to end up with a truely original bit of work
+
+Any thoughts?
+--
+Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+Registered Linux User 247790
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+By now, there is a lot of buzz and noise and excitement, but for the
+long run, this is not enough.
+
+We need to organize ourselves. For example:
+
+* We need to register the association/organization in at least one
+country. Hopefully, Mandriva SA will not strike back, but we cannot
+guarantee.
+
+* We need an executive gov. to take decisions. I propose one/two
+members per community and two or three ex-developers. Maybe, there
+will be two many people, so at most, 10 people. And then an assembly
+system.
+
+* We need a voting system. Who can vote?
+
+* Any account manager?
+
+There are much administrative work to be done before starting to pack
+and compile a single program. Probably, you are already working on it,
+but somebody has to ask if we are on the right direction.
+
+Long life to Mageia!
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+<PRE>On Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:15 LuismaGo wrote:
+ | 2010/9/19 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+ | &gt; Hi,
+ | &gt; Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+ | &gt;
+ | &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+ | &gt;
+ | &gt; This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it
+ | &gt; isn't just some variation of the Mandriva star...
+ |
+ | +1. May be some improvement could be done, but it's great: nice and
+ | simple enough.
+
+He says he is not an artist, but just look at what he put together!
+<A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+My vote goes for this one.
+--
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+</I>&gt;<i> I can't view it :( Gives a 404 error.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+i always was fun of Nuno Pinheiro artwork and oxygen :)
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+<PRE>On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can't view it &#160;:( Gives a 404 error.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect10332.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect10332.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are wonderfull!!
+</I>&gt;<i> i always was fun of Nuno Pinheiro artwork and oxygen :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+ <B>Olivier M&#233;jean</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> By now, there is a lot of buzz and noise and excitement, but for the
+</I>&gt;<i> long run, this is not enough.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need to organize ourselves. For example:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * We need to register the association/organization in at least one
+</I>&gt;<i> country. Hopefully, Mandriva SA will not strike back, but we cannot
+</I>&gt;<i> guarantee.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * We need an executive gov. to take decisions. I propose one/two
+</I>&gt;<i> members per community and two or three ex-developers. Maybe, there
+</I>&gt;<i> will be two many people, so at most, 10 people. And then an assembly
+</I>&gt;<i> system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * We need a voting system. Who can vote?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Any account manager?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are much administrative work to be done before starting to pack
+</I>&gt;<i> and compile a single program. Probably, you are already working on it,
+</I>&gt;<i> but somebody has to ask if we are on the right direction.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The announcement says
+
+&#171; A not-for-profit organization will be set up in the coming days and it will
+be managed by a board of community members. After the first year this board
+will be regularly elected by committed community members. &#187;
+
+Promoters of Mageia know they need to set up lots of things, i guess that all
+this craze for Mageia has gone beoynd all imagining, showing that expectation
+for such a projet is huge.
+
+Patience is then needed, i am sure that soon all skills will be useful !
+
+
+--
+Olivier M&#233;jean
+Pr&#233;sident de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux
+<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A>
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+ <B>Margot</B>
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+<PRE>Other countries seem to be organising user communities, but I've
+not seen anything for the UK. Perhaps it is easier for some other
+countries as they already had active Mandriva user communities - I
+never managed to find one for the UK, so perhaps it never existed!
+
+Has anybody set up anything for UK Mageia users? If not, would
+anybody from the UK be prepared to help me to start something?
+
+--
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+ <B>Marc Fr&#233;d&#233;ric GOMEZ - MG Consultants</B>
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+
++1
+Best Regards
+Marc F. GOMEZ
+
+-----Message d'origine-----
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+[mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] De la part de Ernest N. Wilcox
+Jr.
+Envoy&#233;&#160;: lundi 20 septembre 2010 08:26
+&#192;&#160;: Mageia general discussions
+Objet&#160;: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+
+On Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:15 LuismaGo wrote:
+ | 2010/9/19 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+ | &gt; Hi,
+ | &gt; Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+ | &gt;
+ | &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+ | &gt;
+ | &gt; This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it
+ | &gt; isn't just some variation of the Mandriva star...
+ |
+ | +1. May be some improvement could be done, but it's great: nice and
+ | simple enough.
+
+He says he is not an artist, but just look at what he put together!
+<A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+My vote goes for this one.
+--
+Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+Registered Linux User 247790
+ICQ 41060744
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+<PRE>Le lundi 20 septembre 2010 08:26:28, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect10332.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect10332.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png</A>
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+Because it is currently the best logo I have seen so far, I have a few
+suggestions to give it a final shape.
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+1. Use a white background only for your logo. It must be clear and look
+good everywhere it is would be placed and used.
+By the way, I really like the shadow, even though it looks a little bit
+too low perhaps.
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+2. A really liked the various colours you applied to the letters
+previously. It is really fashionable, and contrasted a little with the
+serious font you have chosen, offering an interesting balance between
+the serious and the eye candy in the logo.
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+3. The logo, as an image, is currently limited to the name and it's
+letters. There is no icon in the logo that could represent the
+distribution by itself. Yet, I do see on your pics some blue bubbles
+going up on the right. You should try to replace them by something that
+would clearly remember the magic there has always been in the system
+since Mandrake : flying stars I would say.
+VirtualBox OSE has done a representation of all the major Linux distros,
+ours included, but without copying exactly the logos (except for
+Ubuntu). You can probably inspire yourself from this :
+<A HREF="http://www.virtualbox.org/about_1600px.png">http://www.virtualbox.org/about_1600px.png</A>
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+What I mean here is that your logo is, according to me, the most
+polished and the one who just feels the best I believe. The only detail
+missing is important : the identity to which we have been attached to
+for so long. Add the magic in your logo and it should be among the best
+suggestions for good. :-)
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+You will also have to deliver a monochromatic version of your logo, once
+it will be finished, once again on a white/transparent background.
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 17:55:03, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;<i> inspiration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu
+</I>&gt;<i> button etc
+</I>
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+Ooops!
+ Better the the link:
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+<A HREF="http://franck.doucet.pagesperso-orange.fr/images/mageia.svg">http://franck.doucet.pagesperso-orange.fr/images/mageia.svg</A>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 17:55:03, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;<i> inspiration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu
+</I>&gt;<i> button etc
+</I>
+
+ a draft with Inkscape ... Photoshop don't run on my Mandriva ;) ! I promote
+the use of Inkscape and SVG format because all elements are alterable.
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+Notice: I use a no-free fonts (Wirwenzaw), unusable in our case, but we are
+fare from the definive logo , I think :)
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+ Franck
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+<PRE>On 20 September 2010 10:09, franck &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">franckdoucet at orange.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 17:55:03, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> inspiration
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> button etc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;a draft with Inkscape ... Photoshop don't run on my Mandriva ;) &#160;! &#160;I promote
+</I>&gt;<i> the use of Inkscape and SVG format because all elements are alterable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Notice: &#160;I use a no-free fonts (Wirwenzaw), unusable in our case, but we are
+</I>&gt;<i> fare from the definive logo , I think :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;Franck
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+</I>
+My first attempt, I wasn't sure if there should be some reflection
+from the moon with the text sitting on it or not.
+<A HREF="http://themoralcarnivore.deviantart.com/art/Logo-for-Mageia-179901309">http://themoralcarnivore.deviantart.com/art/Logo-for-Mageia-179901309</A>
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+I have helped Mandriva translation since 2005 and have communication
+with various Mandriva local users in Taiwan. Actually we don't have an
+independent Mandriva forum or local user group before, so there is a
+google group &quot;mageia-taiwan&quot; just established for new comers and old
+Mandriva users, and I can help translation and contact local mirror
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+<PRE>Maybe we should upload our finished logos into flickr group:
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+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/</A>
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+Uploading to flickr they can be commented easily.
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+Bye.
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+On Lunes, 20 de Septiembre de 2010 11:14:44 franck escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 17:55:03, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; inspiration
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; button etc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ooops!
+</I>&gt;<i> Better the the link:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://franck.doucet.pagesperso-orange.fr/images/mageia.svg">http://franck.doucet.pagesperso-orange.fr/images/mageia.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Franck
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>El dom, 19-09-2010 a las 21:01 +0100, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Have you think about making a logo based on a triskelion? It can be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; connected with &quot;magic&quot; and each spiral could represent mageia community
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as described in <A HREF="http://mageia.org/">http://mageia.org/</A> (users, makers, advocates)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you mean like that?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://trisquel.info/">http://trisquel.info/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> :-)
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+Oh, I didn't know another distributions was already using it :-(
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+&gt;<i> Other countries seem to be organising user communities, but I've
+</I>&gt;<i> not seen anything for the UK. Perhaps it is easier for some other
+</I>&gt;<i> countries as they already had active Mandriva user communities - I
+</I>&gt;<i> never managed to find one for the UK, so perhaps it never existed!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Has anybody set up anything for UK Mageia users? If not, would
+</I>&gt;<i> anybody from the UK be prepared to help me to start something?
+</I>
+Could you elaborate on what purpose you see such a group serving?
+Perhaps one never existed for Mandriva is because no one could think
+of a good reason for creating it. :)
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+It seems to me that geographically based user groups serve little
+purpose. In contrast to language based user groups which clearly are
+needed, as evidenced by the success of Blogdrake and others.
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+<PRE>Hi there! I have been looking exactly for this! I am Turkish
+translator, not-well-experienced packager (you may head MVT repo) and
+Mandriva Turkiye forum admin. I can contribute in those ways. I have
+already translated announcement to turkish. Please include this
+translation on main page.
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+Atilla &#214;NTA&#350; (tarakbumba)
+Mandriva Turkiye Community Admin
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+<PRE>On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 06:54:28PM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Feel free to comment. I'll be carrefully reading this thread !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The following is pretty interesting:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mirrorbrain.org/">http://mirrorbrain.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The server you run this from should have a good connection though. It
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically monitors the mirrors for freshness, and only redirects if
+</I>&gt;<i> the files are available. Small files can be configured to be served
+</I>&gt;<i> directly from the main machine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+I've secured commitment for a mirror in India :)
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jim at jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Monday 20 September 2010 Margot wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Other countries seem to be organising user communities, but I've
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not seen anything for the UK. Perhaps it is easier for some other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> countries as they already had active Mandriva user communities - I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> never managed to find one for the UK, so perhaps it never existed!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Has anybody set up anything for UK Mageia users? If not, would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> anybody from the UK be prepared to help me to start something?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could you elaborate on what purpose you see such a group serving?
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps one never existed for Mandriva is because no one could think
+</I>&gt;<i> of a good reason for creating it. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems to me that geographically based user groups serve little
+</I>&gt;<i> purpose. In contrast to language based user groups which clearly are
+</I>&gt;<i> needed, as evidenced by the success of Blogdrake and others.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think that local user groups are useful to organize events like beer
+tasting or distribution specific install party
+However I fail to see the purpose at country level
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+<PRE>James Kerr a &#233;crit
+&gt;<i> On Monday 20 September 2010 Margot wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>[...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems to me that geographically based user groups serve little
+</I>&gt;<i> purpose. In contrast to language based user groups which clearly are
+</I>&gt;<i> needed, as evidenced by the success of Blogdrake and others.
+</I>
+I disagree.
+
+You are right about the language when it is needed such as translation.
+Wherever you come does not matter when doing a translation and
+internationalisation.
+
+You are wrong about little purpose of geographically based users since those
+groups are direct relays on the ground. For example, how would you do an
+install party in Britain without a local group there ? You would do not
+&lt;master yoda mode :-) &gt;
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+<PRE> Le 20/09/2010 11:44, James Kerr a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Monday 20 September 2010 Margot wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Other countries seem to be organising user communities, but I've
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not seen anything for the UK. Perhaps it is easier for some other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> countries as they already had active Mandriva user communities - I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> never managed to find one for the UK, so perhaps it never existed!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Has anybody set up anything for UK Mageia users? If not, would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> anybody from the UK be prepared to help me to start something?
+</I>&gt;<i> Could you elaborate on what purpose you see such a group serving?
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps one never existed for Mandriva is because no one could think
+</I>&gt;<i> of a good reason for creating it. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems to me that geographically based user groups serve little
+</I>&gt;<i> purpose. In contrast to language based user groups which clearly are
+</I>&gt;<i> needed, as evidenced by the success of Blogdrake and others.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jim
+</I>
+It may be useful to create a mageia-uk structure to promote and regroup
+users in all the United Kingdom, but only a website portal then, because
+the anglophone forum would be the international one in english.
+
+There could also be a mageia-us website portal, linking to the same
+anglophone wiki and forum. Yet, an independant portal would help
+informing local users of local news and events, in addition to the
+worldwide news and events. The aim is to help UK and US users to also
+have local news according to their territory and be able to organize and
+avertise about Mageia events in the UK or the US, and also have some
+Open Source news form these territories.
+
+The forum and the wiki that are still in construction (if they are) are
+language-dependant. But I think that a website portal can be community
+maintained and can be dependant on a territory to be able to offer
+specific news and events as well. Non-anglophone countries do have their
+own portals and local news and events, I see no reason for UK and US
+communities to not have their own, despite linking it to the
+anglophone/international forum.
+
+Well, that's just an idea...
+
+Skiper.
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+<PRE>On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> &#160;Le 20/09/2010 11:44, James Kerr a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Monday 20 September 2010 Margot wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Other countries seem to be organising user communities, but I've
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not seen anything for the UK. Perhaps it is easier for some other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> countries as they already had active Mandriva user communities - I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> never managed to find one for the UK, so perhaps it never existed!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Has anybody set up anything for UK Mageia users? If not, would
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> anybody from the UK be prepared to help me to start something?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could you elaborate on what purpose you see such a group serving?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Perhaps one never existed for Mandriva is because no one could think
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of a good reason for creating it. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It seems to me that geographically based user groups serve little
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> purpose. In contrast to language based user groups which clearly are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> needed, as evidenced by the success of Blogdrake and others.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Jim
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It may be useful to create a mageia-uk structure to promote and regroup
+</I>&gt;<i> users in all the United Kingdom, but only a website portal then, because the
+</I>&gt;<i> anglophone forum would be the international one in english.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There could also be a mageia-us website portal, linking to the same
+</I>&gt;<i> anglophone wiki and forum. Yet, an independant portal would help informing
+</I>&gt;<i> local users of local news and events, in addition to the worldwide news and
+</I>&gt;<i> events. The aim is to help UK and US users to also have local news according
+</I>&gt;<i> to their territory and be able to organize and avertise about Mageia events
+</I>&gt;<i> in the UK or the US, and also have some Open Source news form these
+</I>&gt;<i> territories.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The forum and the wiki that are still in construction (if they are) are
+</I>&gt;<i> language-dependant. But I think that a website portal can be community
+</I>&gt;<i> maintained and can be dependant on a territory to be able to offer specific
+</I>&gt;<i> news and events as well. Non-anglophone countries do have their own portals
+</I>&gt;<i> and local news and events, I see no reason for UK and US communities to not
+</I>&gt;<i> have their own, despite linking it to the anglophone/international forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that's just an idea...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Skiper.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>
+The same would go for India...I'm considering a mageia.in domain and
+adding Mageia specific articles in the local languages. Although for
+India, we have close to 28 official languages (each with their own
+scripts) and of course- English. But it could be manageable with help.
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+<PRE>I fully agree with this opinion. Linux-libre should be offered to free
+software addict users while propierty drives and other non-free software
+included as a choice.
+
+2010/9/20 Filipe Saraiva &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">filip.saraiva at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> It would be good to give this to the user. I agree with her.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Em 19 de setembro de 2010 17:50, Andr&#233; Machado &lt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br</A>&gt; escreveu:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> People,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now that the distro is starting, it's easier to define the course of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> project. We have to make sure we're doing the right thing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Something to be discussed is whether the distro will follow the guidelines
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of the FSF and have only free software on it. This is something to be widely
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> discussed: support for the Stallman's group could be very advantageous, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would sacrifice the end user experience. Proprietary software could be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> placed in a separate repository. Another point is that according GPL, all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> source code should be available.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But something the distro MUST have as an option to the user - that would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bring a lot of free software activists for our side - regardless of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> choice to be made in relation to this requirement as is the ability to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install your kernel linux-libre .
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Basically, linux-libre is a fork of the Linux kernel maintained by the FSF
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Latin America that has no binary blobs. Currently, there are very few
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distros that offer it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I believe he should be in the repositories or on the installation media,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> where the user can install a system with it by typing something like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;install = libre&quot; or something similar at boot time of this media. Of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> course, we offer regular Linux kernel as default.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For more information, see:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/">http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Filipe Saraiva
+</I>&gt;<i> **************************************
+</I>&gt;<i> Meu blog: <A HREF="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> I think that local user groups are useful to organize events like beer
+</I>&gt;<i> tasting or distribution specific install party
+</I>&gt;<i> However I fail to see the purpose at country level
+</I>
+Some people prefer communicating in their native language.
+
+But it must not be one for each country, rather divided into languages, or
+very similar languages i think.
+As en example swedish, norwegian, and danish people understand their others
+written language pretty well and could have one group together. (also a lot
+of finnish people speak swedish but far from all)
+
+I guess language groups would make more sense.
+English, Spanish, French, Arab, Chinese cover most of the world...
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+(Personally I prefer one large forum for wider knowledge and faster replies.)
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+dark.
+
+On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On 20 September 2010 10:09, franck &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">franckdoucet at orange.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 17:55:03, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I imagine something with the magic crystal
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Unfortunatley i am not good in graphics but i will try to give an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; inspiration
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg">http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5072/mageia2.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The crystal as logo could have multiple usage like in stickers, in kmenu
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; button etc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a draft with Inkscape ... Photoshop don't run on my Mandriva ;) ! I
+</I>&gt;<i> promote
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the use of Inkscape and SVG format because all elements are alterable.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Notice: I use a no-free fonts (Wirwenzaw), unusable in our case, but we
+</I>&gt;<i> are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; fare from the definive logo , I think :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Franck
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My first attempt, I wasn't sure if there should be some reflection
+</I>&gt;<i> from the moon with the text sitting on it or not.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://themoralcarnivore.deviantart.com/art/Logo-for-Mageia-179901309">http://themoralcarnivore.deviantart.com/art/Logo-for-Mageia-179901309</A>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Andr&#233; Machado wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Well, just now everyone is having many good ideas related to logo, codename and other stuffs. Will the decision power people in Mageia consider what we are writig here? Or in that list/irc channel we can talk directily with main developers/directors?
+</I>
+Of course, people are reading all messages :)
+But for now, everybody is busy reading all the reactions ... There are
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+ <B>atilla ontas</B>
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+<PRE>Also local communities can package software just for their needs and
+won't placed in official repos. Like we providing Zekr (Quran study
+tool) and zemberek (Turkish spell-checking tool) on Mandriva Turkiye
+repository (MVT)
+
+2010/9/20 Morgan Leijstr&#246;m &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fri at tribun.eu</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Den 2010-09-20 12:16:13 skrev Pascal Terjan:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think that local user groups are useful to organize events like beer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tasting or distribution specific install party
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However I fail to see the purpose at country level
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some people prefer communicating in their native language.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But it must not be one for each country, rather divided into languages, or
+</I>&gt;<i> very similar languages i think.
+</I>&gt;<i> As en example swedish, norwegian, and danish people understand their others
+</I>&gt;<i> written language pretty well and could have one group together. (also a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> of finnish people speak swedish but far from all)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess language groups would make more sense.
+</I>&gt;<i> English, Spanish, French, Arab, Chinese cover most of the world...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Personally I prefer one large forum for wider knowledge and faster replies.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel?
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes!
+</I>&gt;<i> From: atilla ontas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Mon, September 20, 2010 12:25 pm
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I fully agree with this opinion. Linux-libre should be offered to free
+</I>&gt;<i> software addict users while propierty drives and other non-free software
+</I>&gt;<i> included as a choice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Filipe Saraiva &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">filip.saraiva at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It would be good to give this to the user. I agree with her.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Em 19 de setembro de 2010 17:50, Andr&#233; Machado &lt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andreferreiramachado at yahoo.com.br</A>&gt; escreveu:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; People,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Now that the distro is starting, it's easier to define the course of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; project. We have to make sure we're doing the right thing.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Something to be discussed is whether the distro will follow the guidelines
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; of the FSF and have only free software on it. This is something to be widely
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; discussed: support for the Stallman's group could be very advantageous, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; would sacrifice the end user experience. Proprietary software could be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; placed in a separate repository. Another point is that according GPL, all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; source code should be available.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; But something the distro MUST have as an option to the user - that would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; bring a lot of free software activists for our side - regardless of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; choice to be made in relation to this requirement as is the ability to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; install your kernel linux-libre .
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Basically, linux-libre is a fork of the Linux kernel maintained by the FSF
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Latin America that has no binary blobs. Currently, there are very few
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; distros that offer it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I believe he should be in the repositories or on the installation media,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; where the user can install a system with it by typing something like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &quot;install = libre&quot; or something similar at boot time of this media. Of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; course, we offer regular Linux kernel as default.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; For more information, see:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/">http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>
+Is the free equal GNU/Linux? The Debian/Ubuntu follow this philosphy but
+we don't need it. We have a great kernel devel/maintainer (tmb). I want
+to he maintain the mageia kernel in future.
+...and this new distribution doesn't need follow the Ubuntu. We may go
+on new way.
+
+Aleph
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+</I>&gt;<i> Ooops!
+</I>&gt;<i> Better the the link:
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://franck.doucet.pagesperso-orange.fr/images/mageia.svg">http://franck.doucet.pagesperso-orange.fr/images/mageia.svg</A>
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+</I>I like a lot the second (in the page) with the blue crystal
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+<PRE>On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, atilla ontas wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Also local communities can package software just for their needs and
+</I>won't placed in official repos. Like we providing Zekr (Quran study
+tool) and zemberek (Turkish spell-checking tool) on Mandriva Turkiye
+repository (MVT)
+
+Hi Atilla,
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+while I understand why you did that previously with Mandriva, I think we
+should aim to have ALL packages in the central repositories with Mageia.
+For example the tools you mentioned can be useful to people outside
+Turkey too (there are so many Turks living all over Europe), who will
+never find out that they even exist if they are hidden away in a local
+MVT repository.
+
+I hope the Mageia repos will be managed in such a way that it will be
+much easier for occasional contributors to contribute packages.
+
+I have been active with some packaging as well in the past (see:
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxtech.net/downloads/">http://www.linuxtech.net/downloads/</A> ), but never bothered to get them
+included in the Mandriva repos as the procedure wasn't clear and the
+info on how to do it that I found made it look complicated and
+time-consuming to do so.
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+Mageia should have an additional contrib repository where it's easy for
+occasional contributors to submit packages, even when the submitter
+can't guarantee to maintain them long-term.
+Of course it should be made clear for the users that these packages are
+from external contributors and not regularly maintained but even so they
+can be valuable to users.
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+&gt;<i> Also local communities can package software just for their needs and
+</I>&gt;<i> won't placed in official repos. Like we providing Zekr (Quran study
+</I>&gt;<i> tool) and zemberek (Turkish spell-checking tool) on Mandriva Turkiye
+</I>&gt;<i> repository (MVT)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Excactly, like the 'skai' package with a program for a greek tv station
+</I>that we have in the repository of the greek community (MGR) There are some
+programs that target the users localy only
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+<PRE> Le 20/09/2010 12:53, atilla ontas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Also local communities can package software just for their needs and
+</I>&gt;<i> won't placed in official repos. Like we providing Zekr (Quran study
+</I>&gt;<i> tool) and zemberek (Turkish spell-checking tool) on Mandriva Turkiye
+</I>&gt;<i> repository (MVT)
+</I>
+Just a not : I am against this form of packaging only for a group of
+people. Anywhere in the world someone who wants to study a language,
+turkish for xample, may need it. Currently we need to focus all our
+efforts in Mageias official repositories and avoid as much as possible
+having too many different repositories. Programs are usually not
+territory dependant.
+
+That's out of subject anyway, but I wanted to tell clearly my opinion on
+this. Remember : Mageia takes back the same spirit of easy to use and
+simplicity that comes form Mandriva and Mandrake. Fiddling with many
+extra repositories is then what we do not want to hear about. This would
+even force people to be members or to visit the website to add the repo
+and then access te program they were looking for. So, that's just no to me.
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+ <B>atilla ontas</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/20 Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> &#160;Le 20/09/2010 12:53, atilla ontas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also local communities can package software just for their needs and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> won't placed in official repos. Like we providing Zekr (Quran study
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tool) and zemberek (Turkish spell-checking tool) on Mandriva Turkiye
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> repository (MVT)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a not : I am against this form of packaging only for a group of people.
+</I>&gt;<i> Anywhere in the world someone who wants to study a language, turkish for
+</I>&gt;<i> xample, may need it. Currently we need to focus all our efforts in Mageias
+</I>&gt;<i> official repositories and avoid as much as possible having too many
+</I>&gt;<i> different repositories. Programs are usually not territory dependant.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's out of subject anyway, but I wanted to tell clearly my opinion on
+</I>&gt;<i> this. Remember : Mageia takes back the same spirit of easy to use and
+</I>&gt;<i> simplicity that comes form Mandriva and Mandrake. Fiddling with many extra
+</I>&gt;<i> repositories is then what we do not want to hear about. This would even
+</I>&gt;<i> force people to be members or to visit the website to add the repo and then
+</I>&gt;<i> access te program they were looking for. So, that's just no to me.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+I'm not insisting on seperate repositories. Why we (as Mandriva
+Turkiye) created that repository is some packages can not be accepted,
+like zemberek (See: <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=46479">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=46479</A>)
+according to mdv packaging policies. And as you may know i am not a
+well experienced, professional packager. As you can see, Michael
+Scherer tried to show me the light but for a short time. There is no
+assistance for third party packagers. Also, contributing to Mandriva
+such a way was not well documented.
+
+Also you may noticed kde3 mvt packages on Mandriva Forum/Community
+RPMS section.
+
+What i mean is that local communities are necessity, People want to
+get help and assistance in their own language. Also, especially in
+Turkey, Linux users unite around those Turkish communities. We are
+either member or admin of nearly every linux related community forums
+in Turkey. Thats the only way to edvertse linux and provide help in my
+country.
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+</I>&gt;<i> while I understand why you did that previously with Mandriva, I think we
+</I>&gt;<i> should aim to have ALL packages in the central repositories with Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>If te policy of Mageia is to have a central repository with all package it
+is excellent no problem for me
+But eg i have an rpm of the libfreetype6 modified specialy for the greek
+fonts because the plf version breaks the layout of the greek fonts:
+<A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=56825">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=56825</A>
+And i had these rpms in the greek repo
+<A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/rpm/2010.1/i586/libfreetype6-2.3.12-99.1mgr2010.1.i586.rpm">http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/rpm/2010.1/i586/libfreetype6-2.3.12-99.1mgr2010.1.i586.rpm</A>
+
+But is only an exception, i am agree to have a central repository. In a mug
+assembly have asked to have a search engine to search rpms in all
+communities repos. We ve never could do it, so to have one repository is a
+solution to this.
+
+I can maintain for the mageia these rpms :
+<A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/rpm/2010.1/i586/">http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/rpm/2010.1/i586/</A> (except the libfreetype6
+ofcourse :D )
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+<PRE>I totally agree with Thomas,
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+as some may know, the German community has their own repo as well. The reason
+was the somehow difficult procedure in contributing packages to Mandriva.
+But: we have decided to contribute to mageia directly in the future. Like
+Thomas said, many Third-party repos make it difficult for the users to find and
+install packages. It also leads to dependency problems sometimes, when
+packages from different third party repos collide.
+And even if there are packages which are only of use to people with some
+language, nationality and so on. Why shouldn't they be in the official repos.
+E.g. I don't speak any asian language but the tools for those languages did
+never disturb me. They were just there in the repo without ane sideeffects to
+my system...
+
+Oliver
+
+Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+&gt;<i> Le 20/09/2010 12:53, atilla ontas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Also local communities can package software just for their needs and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; won't placed in official repos. Like we providing Zekr (Quran study
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tool) and zemberek (Turkish spell-checking tool) on Mandriva Turkiye
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; repository (MVT)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a not : I am against this form of packaging only for a group of
+</I>&gt;<i> people. Anywhere in the world someone who wants to study a language,
+</I>&gt;<i> turkish for xample, may need it. Currently we need to focus all our
+</I>&gt;<i> efforts in Mageias official repositories and avoid as much as possible
+</I>&gt;<i> having too many different repositories. Programs are usually not
+</I>&gt;<i> territory dependant.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's out of subject anyway, but I wanted to tell clearly my opinion on
+</I>&gt;<i> this. Remember : Mageia takes back the same spirit of easy to use and
+</I>&gt;<i> simplicity that comes form Mandriva and Mandrake. Fiddling with many
+</I>&gt;<i> extra repositories is then what we do not want to hear about. This would
+</I>&gt;<i> even force people to be members or to visit the website to add the repo
+</I>&gt;<i> and then access te program they were looking for. So, that's just no to me.
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+ <B>atilla ontas</B>
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+<PRE>Dimitrios, i think we can manage to put our rpms into oficial
+communtiy repository if Mageia devs agree. Your freetype package, if
+it is not plf , can be placed in that repo with different %name. But i
+think, at least a profeesional packager shold review our packages and
+show us our faults and how to correct them. This way;
+- make us trained
+- make our packages better QA
+- make us a part of Mageia packagers
+- make every mageia user reach them from one official repo
+- make stop duplicating efforts
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+2010/9/20 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> while I understand why you did that previously with Mandriva, I think we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should aim to have ALL packages in the central repositories with Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If te policy of Mageia is to have a central repository with all package it
+</I>&gt;<i> is excellent no problem for me
+</I>&gt;<i> But eg i have an rpm of the libfreetype6 modified specialy for the greek
+</I>&gt;<i> fonts because the plf version breaks the layout of the greek fonts:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=56825">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=56825</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> And i had these rpms in the greek repo
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/rpm/2010.1/i586/libfreetype6-2.3.12-99.1mgr2010.1.i586.rpm">http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/rpm/2010.1/i586/libfreetype6-2.3.12-99.1mgr2010.1.i586.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But is only an exception, i am agree to have a central repository. In a mug
+</I>&gt;<i> assembly&#160; have asked to have a search engine to search rpms in all
+</I>&gt;<i> communities repos. We ve never could do it, so to have one repository is a
+</I>&gt;<i> solution to this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can maintain for the mageia these rpms :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/rpm/2010.1/i586/">http://www.mandrivalinux.gr/rpm/2010.1/i586/</A> (except the libfreetype6
+</I>&gt;<i> ofcourse :D )
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:45 PM, patrick.2 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">patrick.2 at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:44:08 +0200,
+</I>&gt;<i> Jean Peyratout &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jean.peyratout at abul.org</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ... no cutting the link ;-)
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+&gt;<i> Le 20/09/2010 12:53, atilla ontas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Also local communities can package software just for their needs and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; won't placed in official repos.
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a not : I am against this form of packaging only for a group of
+</I>&gt;<i> people. Anywhere in the world someone who wants to study a language,
+</I>&gt;<i> turkish for xample, may need it.
+</I>
+I totally agree with Thomas,
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+as some may know, the German community has their own repo as well. The reason
+was the somehow difficult procedure in contributing packages to Mandriva.
+But: we have decided to contribute to mageia directly in the future. Like
+Thomas said, many Third-party repos make it difficult for the users to find and
+install packages. It also leads to dependency problems sometimes, when
+packages from different third party repos collide.
+And even if there are packages which are only of use to people with some
+language, nationality and so on. Why shouldn't they be in the official repos.
+E.g. I don't speak any asian language but the tools for those languages did
+never disturb me. They were just there in the repo without ane sideeffects to
+my system...
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+<PRE>I'm agree with this opinion as i wrote a minute ago to the UK user
+community? subject. But as you know we, therd party packagers are not
+well experienced packagers. An official packager should review our
+packages and aasist to correct issues. So, we can learn more and
+provide better packages. As a result users can reach their needs from
+official contrib or communtiy repo.
+
+2010/9/20 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">burger at webgis.de</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> I totally agree with Thomas,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as some may know, the German community has their own repo as well. The reason
+</I>&gt;<i> was the somehow difficult procedure in contributing packages to Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i> But: we have decided to contribute to mageia directly in the future. Like
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas said, many Third-party repos make it difficult for the users to find and
+</I>&gt;<i> install packages. It also leads to dependency problems sometimes, when
+</I>&gt;<i> packages from different third party repos collide.
+</I>&gt;<i> And even if there are packages which are only of use to people with some
+</I>&gt;<i> language, nationality and so on. Why shouldn't they be in the official repos.
+</I>&gt;<i> E.g. I don't speak any asian language but the tools for those languages did
+</I>&gt;<i> never disturb me. They were just there in the repo without ane sideeffects to
+</I>&gt;<i> my system...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; Le 20/09/2010 12:53, atilla ontas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Also local communities can package software just for their needs and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; won't placed in official repos. Like we providing Zekr (Quran study
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; tool) and zemberek (Turkish spell-checking tool) on Mandriva Turkiye
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; repository (MVT)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just a not : I am against this form of packaging only for a group of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people. Anywhere in the world someone who wants to study a language,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> turkish for xample, may need it. Currently we need to focus all our
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> efforts in Mageias official repositories and avoid as much as possible
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> having too many different repositories. Programs are usually not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> territory dependant.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's out of subject anyway, but I wanted to tell clearly my opinion on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this. Remember : Mageia takes back the same spirit of easy to use and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> simplicity that comes form Mandriva and Mandrake. Fiddling with many
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> extra repositories is then what we do not want to hear about. This would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> even force people to be members or to visit the website to add the repo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and then access te program they were looking for. So, that's just no to me.
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+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Mit freundlichen Gr&#252;&#223;en
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver Burger
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>The use of local groups has been already told - especially for events
+in their country/area and promoting Mageia to the local media, etc.
+
+Then there is the language reason as already said: I can understand
+that there is no reason for a special language forum for UK, USA,
+Canada, etc. like there is no reason for a special language forum for
+Austria and Switzerland when there is a German community.
+
+Then the repositories.
+As others MandrivaUser.de has its repository with lots of packages and
+own Mandriva Linux editions, resulting from user requests ands own
+ideas, comparable with MIB. We have no problems to integrate all that
+in a general contrib repository. But there is one important point:
+All packages in that contrib repo have to follow certain rules
+(signatures, versioning, no license violations, etc.). Although such
+rules are essential they will cause certain groups or single packagers
+to stay out of this general repository as has been the case with
+Mandriva Linux.
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+So, although I would wish only one repository (makes it much easier
+for mirror maintainers and users) I doubt that it will come to that.
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+ <B>atilla ontas</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/20 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> But there is one important point:
+</I>&gt;<i> All packages in that contrib repo have to follow certain rules
+</I>&gt;<i> (signatures, versioning, no license violations, etc.). Although such
+</I>&gt;<i> rules are essential they will cause certain groups or single packagers
+</I>&gt;<i> to stay out of this general repository as has been the case with
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva Linux.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Wolgang, yoU well pointed out that i have forgot. That is an important matter.
+
+&gt;<i> So, although I would wish only one repository (makes it much easier
+</I>&gt;<i> for mirror maintainers and users) I doubt that it will come to that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Did you seen this?: <A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=131244">http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=131244</A>
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+<PRE>Le lundi 20 septembre 2010 02:52:58, Dale Huckeby a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Um, that's not the one I was praising. It was
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg.">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg.</A> The latter is a clean
+</I>&gt;<i> and modern design, evocative of the name, slightly mysterious with the
+</I>&gt;<i> flames rising from the orb, just a really, really nice design. Cuddly
+</I>&gt;<i> penguins and what always looked like a star-shaped pillow always left me
+</I>&gt;<i> feeling faintly embarrassed at the amateurish look. This one doesn't look
+</I>&gt;<i> amateurish at all.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+I love this one, a really professional design.
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+Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le 20/09/2010 11:44, James Kerr a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Monday 20 September 2010 Margot wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Other countries seem to be organising user communities, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I've not seen anything for the UK. Perhaps it is easier for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; some other countries as they already had active Mandriva user
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; communities - I never managed to find one for the UK, so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; perhaps it never existed!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Has anybody set up anything for UK Mageia users? If not, would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; anybody from the UK be prepared to help me to start something?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Could you elaborate on what purpose you see such a group
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; serving? Perhaps one never existed for Mandriva is because no
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; one could think of a good reason for creating it. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It seems to me that geographically based user groups serve
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; little purpose. In contrast to language based user groups which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; clearly are needed, as evidenced by the success of Blogdrake
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and others.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Jim
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It may be useful to create a mageia-uk structure to promote and
+</I>&gt;<i> regroup users in all the United Kingdom, but only a website
+</I>&gt;<i> portal then, because the anglophone forum would be the
+</I>&gt;<i> international one in english.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There could also be a mageia-us website portal, linking to the
+</I>&gt;<i> same anglophone wiki and forum. Yet, an independant portal would
+</I>&gt;<i> help informing local users of local news and events, in addition
+</I>&gt;<i> to the worldwide news and events. The aim is to help UK and US
+</I>&gt;<i> users to also have local news according to their territory and be
+</I>&gt;<i> able to organize and avertise about Mageia events in the UK or
+</I>&gt;<i> the US, and also have some Open Source news form these
+</I>&gt;<i> territories.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The forum and the wiki that are still in construction (if they
+</I>&gt;<i> are) are language-dependant. But I think that a website portal
+</I>&gt;<i> can be community maintained and can be dependant on a territory
+</I>&gt;<i> to be able to offer specific news and events as well.
+</I>&gt;<i> Non-anglophone countries do have their own portals and local news
+</I>&gt;<i> and events, I see no reason for UK and US communities to not have
+</I>&gt;<i> their own, despite linking it to the anglophone/international
+</I>&gt;<i> forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that's just an idea...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Skiper.
+</I>
+Several reasons why I thought a UK user group would be useful:
+
+1) The international language of computing is English, but WHICH
+English? A UK group could check documentation and make sure that it
+is understandable to UK users and does not use words or phrases
+which mean one thing in UK English and something completely
+different in other varieties of English (the pants/trousers
+problem!).
+
+2) Making it easier to organise a physical presence to promote
+Mageia at UK computer/FLOSS/Linux events.
+
+3) Identifying (and, with any luck, finding some way of fixing) any
+problems with interfaces between Mageia and UK-specific devices or
+services - for instance, the UK government seems still to be going
+ahead with DAB radio while the rest of the world is using something
+else.
+
+
+--
+Margot
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+**Otford Ducks Computers**
+We teach, you learn...
+...and, if you don't do your homework, we set the cat on you!
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+
+&gt;<i> Dimitrios, i think we can manage to put our rpms into oficial
+</I>&gt;<i> communtiy repository if Mageia devs agree. Your freetype package, if
+</I>&gt;<i> it is not plf , can be placed in that repo with different %name. But i
+</I>&gt;<i> think, at least a profeesional packager shold review our packages and
+</I>&gt;<i> show us our faults and how to correct them. This way;
+</I>&gt;<i> - make us trained
+</I>&gt;<i> - make our packages better QA
+</I>&gt;<i> - make us a part of Mageia packagers
+</I>&gt;<i> - make every mageia user reach them from one official repo
+</I>&gt;<i> - make stop duplicating efforts
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Agree, the french association mandrivafr.org has a mailing list to help
+beginers and not, to learning how to build rpm packages and make
+corrections/suggestions. It would be very good to have something similar to
+mageia too.
+
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+ <B>Tux99</B>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, although I would wish only one repository (makes it much easier
+</I>&gt;<i> for mirror maintainers and users) I doubt that it will come to that.
+</I>
+Why so pessimistic? I don't see why it shouldn't be possible.
+
+I think there should be an new repo called for example contrib-extra, to
+which occasional contributors can contribute.
+
+I can see it working the following way:
+
+The contributor submits the SRPM (source RPM) of the package he/she has
+made, then a Mageia packager looks at the spec file and the
+other included files to see that it all looks ok, then builds it on the
+official build servers (signed with a Mageia key) and then places it
+into the contrib-extra repository.
+
+The difference between the contrib-extra repo and the more official
+repos should be that the rules for inclusion should be less strict (no
+commitment from the contributor to keep the package updated, no official
+debugging and support from Mageia, acceptance of less free licenses, no
+need to stringently follow former Mandriva packaging rules, etc).
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+ from atilla ontas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>&gt; who wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> I'm not insisting on seperate repositories. Why we (as Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> Turkiye) created that repository is some packages can not be accepted,
+</I>&gt;<i> like zemberek (See: <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=46479">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=46479</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> according to mdv packaging policies.
+</I>
+The multiplication of repositories makes it difficult (read: bloody
+impossible) to see/know at a go all that is available.
+
+And the idea of local repos seems very short-sighted IMO; just as an example,
+I am French, live in Paraguay, and use French, English, German, Japanese and
+at times Hebrew; which local repo should I subscribe to ?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ In science there is only physics;
+ all the rest is stamp collecting.
+ -- Ernest Rutherford
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+First, let me present myself. My name is Michael Scherer, and for those
+that do not already know me, I am a member of the Mandriva packaging
+community, and one of the 4 zarb.org admins. I am also involved in the
+launch of the Mageia project since the start some months ago.
+
+I just went back from FUDCON 2010 Zurich yesterday evening and I have
+been quite overhelmed by the amount of discussion that is going on at
+the moment, and I must confess that I feel more than stressed by
+everything that is going on, to the point I still didn't connect to irc
+yet.
+
+Of course, we are all happy of the tremendous support of the community,
+but more than 500 messages in 2 days is a little bit too much for me to
+digest, and so I would like to share a few points :
+
+- please try to avoid sending emails like &quot;i would like to help to
+$FOO&quot;. While we are quite happy to see such mails, they are not very
+helpful at the moment since we have to sort everything, and we cannot
+accept help on $FOO yet. We have started to think about how we can
+manage this, and we will likely soon setup a temporary wiki so people
+can add their name ( likely tomorrow, once we have sorted the really
+urgent stuff ), but in the mean time, I think people should wait a
+little. I would also like to remind you that you can also wait for us to
+ask for help, ie once we will need it. Let's say someone want to
+translate the distribution in french. If you want to do it, do not say
+&quot;I want to translate&quot;. Just wait until we have something to translate
+when we will ask for help, and then sent the email. Or add your name on
+the wiki once it will be set up and announced. By acting this way, we
+will be more efficient as we will not have to search back in the
+archives to see who offered what, and have less mails to read
+( especially when we are very very busy ).
+
+- please try to not start long discussions about technical details
+( like the thread about kernel-libre, about server component ). While of
+course we need to have technical discussions as every technical project,
+I must remind everybody that we do have any kind of infrastructure for
+the moment, so this is a little bit early to start. And discussing it
+now when we have nothing to commit or anything is IMHO distracting us
+from our priorities, and a source of future frustration for people, as
+we shouldn't make any decision in a hurry.
+
+- please do not forget there is some priorities in setting up. As
+someone who boast of having non existant skills in website on his blog,
+I am quite delighted to see people are eager to do the work, but I think
+we should first have a server to host the website before discussing of
+the logo. And so one. The same goes for codename, flickr account or
+others. So will I am happy to see that people are doing stuff that I
+will never be able to do properly, I think they need to realize that we
+are not ready to get contributions yet, and so that it will take time,
+and waiting can be frustrating, so please cope with us.
+
+- in the same idea, while it is wonderful to see that people want to
+start user groups in various country, I must remind the harsh reality
+that we have nothing to use yet. So there is no hurry yet. If people are
+really interested, I think it would be wiser to plan a little bit more
+the creation of the and try to get information on what is needed to
+manage a community, by reading books like &quot;The opensource way&quot;, or &quot;the
+art of community&quot;. I have plenty of ressources on the subject for those
+that want it, and I think it can take some time to digest.
+
+
+and, as a more personal note, please do not register every possible
+variation of the domain name. One of the few problems we faced while
+searching for a name was that a good part of all names were already
+used. And we painfully discovered that good names are a scarce
+ressource. So in order to be good netizens, I think we should act
+responsibly, and let others people use names even if not related to the
+project.
+
+Now, I must be clea, I do not ask to people to stop all discussions, far
+from it. You can discuss everything you want, but I would like to remind
+everybody to think a little bit of those that will read all the emails
+( like me ), and how much time this will cost to them. If I spend 1
+minute on every mail since the start ( as I need to get them from the
+web interface ), and since there was 520 mails in 2 days, this make 8
+hours to read everything properly ( without counting the 15 mails that
+appeared in the mean time.
+
+And while I will be reading this, I will not be setting the
+infrastructure or anything.
+
+Thanks for reading my boring mail and I hope to be back on you soon with
+more interesting news.
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+<PRE>2010/9/20 JackDaniels93 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jackda93 at free.fr</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 20 septembre 2010 02:52:58, Dale Huckeby a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Um, that's not the one I was praising. It was
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg.">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg.</A> The latter is a
+</I>&gt;<i> clean
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and modern design, evocative of the name, slightly mysterious with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; flames rising from the orb, just a really, really nice design. Cuddly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; penguins and what always looked like a star-shaped pillow always left me
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; feeling faintly embarrassed at the amateurish look. This one doesn't look
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; amateurish at all.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I love this one, a really professional design.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+The only thing is that it has to be redesigned because the image was picked
+in a google search so we dont have the rights, and it has to be unique with
+the personal mageia's character
+
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+&gt;<i> Other countries seem to be organising user communities, but I've
+</I>&gt;<i> not seen anything for the UK. Perhaps it is easier for some other
+</I>&gt;<i> countries as they already had active Mandriva user communities - I
+</I>&gt;<i> never managed to find one for the UK, so perhaps it never existed!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Has anybody set up anything for UK Mageia users? If not, would
+</I>&gt;<i> anybody from the UK be prepared to help me to start something?
+</I>
+I'd help! I'm in Poland, but I'd be interested in helping with any UK
+English localisation, and supporting and following UK group
+activities - including any marketing, because it's my nearest
+English-speaking country and my English is UK English, not US
+English. I use a UK keyboard, I use Euros and GBP, I use EN-GB
+dictionaries and thesauruses...
+
+While I agree that a complete repo is a good thing, local user/action
+groups make it possible to actually organise a large number of
+people, and to receive ideas from them in manageable chunks...
+
+Just an idea...
+
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+ma sep 20 13:34:15 CEST 2010
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+andromeda up 7 hour(s), 0 min.
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+
+I like contrib-extra idea for occasional contributors.
+
+
+Bye.
+
+
+On Lunes, 20 de Septiembre de 2010 13:47:10 Tux99 escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, although I would wish only one repository (makes it much easier
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for mirror maintainers and users) I doubt that it will come to that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why so pessimistic? I don't see why it shouldn't be possible.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think there should be an new repo called for example contrib-extra, to
+</I>&gt;<i> which occasional contributors can contribute.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can see it working the following way:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The contributor submits the SRPM (source RPM) of the package he/she has
+</I>&gt;<i> made, then a Mageia packager looks at the spec file and the
+</I>&gt;<i> other included files to see that it all looks ok, then builds it on the
+</I>&gt;<i> official build servers (signed with a Mageia key) and then places it
+</I>&gt;<i> into the contrib-extra repository.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The difference between the contrib-extra repo and the more official
+</I>&gt;<i> repos should be that the rules for inclusion should be less strict (no
+</I>&gt;<i> commitment from the contributor to keep the package updated, no official
+</I>&gt;<i> debugging and support from Mageia, acceptance of less free licenses, no
+</I>&gt;<i> need to stringently follow former Mandriva packaging rules, etc).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+Michael,
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+you might want to read these mailing lists via gmane.org using a good
+news (nntp) reader instead, that will make it a lot easier to skip
+threads you aren't interested in.
+
+With regards to the posts of people offering help, that's what the
+mageia website explicitly says, so you can't really now tell them not
+to do that (unless you change the test on the web site too):
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+&quot;For other contributors: if you want your name to be added to the list,
+indicating that you plan to follow the fork, let us know on IRC channel,
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+
+Understanding for your explanation.
+But there is one issue which brought up a question.
+You are writing &quot;launch of the Mageia project since the start some months
+ago&quot;.
+Am i misunderstanding, or did i think the plans just were born some days
+(weeks at the most) ago?
+
+isadora
+
+2010/9/20 Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First, let me present myself. My name is Michael Scherer, and for those
+</I>&gt;<i> that do not already know me, I am a member of the Mandriva packaging
+</I>&gt;<i> community, and one of the 4 zarb.org admins. I am also involved in the
+</I>&gt;<i> launch of the Mageia project since the start some months ago.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just went back from FUDCON 2010 Zurich yesterday evening and I have
+</I>&gt;<i> been quite overhelmed by the amount of discussion that is going on at
+</I>&gt;<i> the moment, and I must confess that I feel more than stressed by
+</I>&gt;<i> everything that is going on, to the point I still didn't connect to irc
+</I>&gt;<i> yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, we are all happy of the tremendous support of the community,
+</I>&gt;<i> but more than 500 messages in 2 days is a little bit too much for me to
+</I>&gt;<i> digest, and so I would like to share a few points :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - please try to avoid sending emails like &quot;i would like to help to
+</I>&gt;<i> $FOO&quot;. While we are quite happy to see such mails, they are not very
+</I>&gt;<i> helpful at the moment since we have to sort everything, and we cannot
+</I>&gt;<i> accept help on $FOO yet. We have started to think about how we can
+</I>&gt;<i> manage this, and we will likely soon setup a temporary wiki so people
+</I>&gt;<i> can add their name ( likely tomorrow, once we have sorted the really
+</I>&gt;<i> urgent stuff ), but in the mean time, I think people should wait a
+</I>&gt;<i> little. I would also like to remind you that you can also wait for us to
+</I>&gt;<i> ask for help, ie once we will need it. Let's say someone want to
+</I>&gt;<i> translate the distribution in french. If you want to do it, do not say
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;I want to translate&quot;. Just wait until we have something to translate
+</I>&gt;<i> when we will ask for help, and then sent the email. Or add your name on
+</I>&gt;<i> the wiki once it will be set up and announced. By acting this way, we
+</I>&gt;<i> will be more efficient as we will not have to search back in the
+</I>&gt;<i> archives to see who offered what, and have less mails to read
+</I>&gt;<i> ( especially when we are very very busy ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - please try to not start long discussions about technical details
+</I>&gt;<i> ( like the thread about kernel-libre, about server component ). While of
+</I>&gt;<i> course we need to have technical discussions as every technical project,
+</I>&gt;<i> I must remind everybody that we do have any kind of infrastructure for
+</I>&gt;<i> the moment, so this is a little bit early to start. And discussing it
+</I>&gt;<i> now when we have nothing to commit or anything is IMHO distracting us
+</I>&gt;<i> from our priorities, and a source of future frustration for people, as
+</I>&gt;<i> we shouldn't make any decision in a hurry.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - please do not forget there is some priorities in setting up. As
+</I>&gt;<i> someone who boast of having non existant skills in website on his blog,
+</I>&gt;<i> I am quite delighted to see people are eager to do the work, but I think
+</I>&gt;<i> we should first have a server to host the website before discussing of
+</I>&gt;<i> the logo. And so one. The same goes for codename, flickr account or
+</I>&gt;<i> others. So will I am happy to see that people are doing stuff that I
+</I>&gt;<i> will never be able to do properly, I think they need to realize that we
+</I>&gt;<i> are not ready to get contributions yet, and so that it will take time,
+</I>&gt;<i> and waiting can be frustrating, so please cope with us.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - in the same idea, while it is wonderful to see that people want to
+</I>&gt;<i> start user groups in various country, I must remind the harsh reality
+</I>&gt;<i> that we have nothing to use yet. So there is no hurry yet. If people are
+</I>&gt;<i> really interested, I think it would be wiser to plan a little bit more
+</I>&gt;<i> the creation of the and try to get information on what is needed to
+</I>&gt;<i> manage a community, by reading books like &quot;The opensource way&quot;, or &quot;the
+</I>&gt;<i> art of community&quot;. I have plenty of ressources on the subject for those
+</I>&gt;<i> that want it, and I think it can take some time to digest.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and, as a more personal note, please do not register every possible
+</I>&gt;<i> variation of the domain name. One of the few problems we faced while
+</I>&gt;<i> searching for a name was that a good part of all names were already
+</I>&gt;<i> used. And we painfully discovered that good names are a scarce
+</I>&gt;<i> ressource. So in order to be good netizens, I think we should act
+</I>&gt;<i> responsibly, and let others people use names even if not related to the
+</I>&gt;<i> project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, I must be clea, I do not ask to people to stop all discussions, far
+</I>&gt;<i> from it. You can discuss everything you want, but I would like to remind
+</I>&gt;<i> everybody to think a little bit of those that will read all the emails
+</I>&gt;<i> ( like me ), and how much time this will cost to them. If I spend 1
+</I>&gt;<i> minute on every mail since the start ( as I need to get them from the
+</I>&gt;<i> web interface ), and since there was 520 mails in 2 days, this make 8
+</I>&gt;<i> hours to read everything properly ( without counting the 15 mails that
+</I>&gt;<i> appeared in the mean time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And while I will be reading this, I will not be setting the
+</I>&gt;<i> infrastructure or anything.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for reading my boring mail and I hope to be back on you soon with
+</I>&gt;<i> more interesting news.
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Serait il possible de creer une liste francophone?
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+J'ai pu lire sur la liste des utilisateurs de mandriva, que nous sommes
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+a friend of mine have send us this picture :
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+waiting for your reaction ;)
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+Sadiq S
+mailto: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sadiq.9541 at gmail.com</A>
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+On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Yves-Ga&#235;l Ch&#233;ny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">yves at antredugeek.fr</A>&gt;wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> a friend of mine have send us this picture :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://antredugeek.fr/logo_mageia.jpg">http://antredugeek.fr/logo_mageia.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> waiting for your reaction ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ++
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+2010/9/20 Sadiq Saif &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sadiq.9541 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> I really like the font, easy on the eyes. But the logo hmmm..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sadiq S
+</I>&gt;<i> mailto: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sadiq.9541 at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Blog: www.staticsafe.me
+</I>&gt;<i> Twitter - www.twitter.com/staticsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> Facebook- www.facebook.com/static.safe
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Yves-Ga&#235;l Ch&#233;ny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">yves at antredugeek.fr</A>&gt;wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a friend of mine have send us this picture :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://antredugeek.fr/logo_mageia.jpg">http://antredugeek.fr/logo_mageia.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> waiting for your reaction ;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ++
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hurdman aka yves-gael
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+There is a general mailing-list in English, then there is a french
+list where the same topics are discussed. Same for the forums and the
+wiki. This often led to different solutions and different
+informations, depending on the language. Sometimes solutions were only
+available in French (remember the Instant-On desaster?) and the rest
+of the world did not know about it - and of course the other way
+round.
+
+Of course I do not have any solution, But for this time of first
+organisation I'd suggest not having split discussions with no bridge
+between - this can lead to misunderstandings and errors in this
+startup phase.
+
+
+2010/9/20 Jean-Christophe Monnard &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jcm at predoenea.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Desole de ne pas ecrire en anglais.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Serait il possible de creer une liste francophone?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> J'ai pu lire sur la liste des utilisateurs de mandriva, que nous sommes
+</I>&gt;<i> plusieurs &#224; vouloir participer a ce projet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Jean-Christophe Monnard
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+ <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B>
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+<PRE>The logo is not perfect, but is promising... I like the idea.
+
+On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM, isadora &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">isis2000 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Lovely penguin.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Sadiq Saif &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sadiq.9541 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I really like the font, easy on the eyes. But the logo hmmm..
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sadiq S
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mailto: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sadiq.9541 at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Blog: www.staticsafe.me
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Twitter - www.twitter.com/staticsafe
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook- www.facebook.com/static.safe
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Yves-Ga&#235;l Ch&#233;ny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">yves at antredugeek.fr</A>&gt;wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a friend of mine have send us this picture :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://antredugeek.fr/logo_mageia.jpg">http://antredugeek.fr/logo_mageia.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> waiting for your reaction ;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ++
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> hurdman aka yves-gael
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+</I>&gt;<i> organisation I'd suggest not having split discussions with no bridge
+</I>&gt;<i> between - this can lead to misunderstandings and errors in this
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+IMHO all English. I'm spanish speaking, but truth is that English is
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+It's nice. Maybe someone with more &quot;artist&quot; spirit can give better
+opinions but the &quot;main&quot; idea is very nice.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Of course I do not have any solution, But for this time of first
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> organisation I'd suggest not having split discussions with no bridge
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> between - this can lead to misunderstandings and errors in this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> startup phase.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO all English. I'm spanish speaking, but truth is that English is
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;universal&quot; language, like it or not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Every Community can/should use their own language in their
+</I>&gt;<i> sites/lists, but in the main/official lists, webs, wiki, etc etc,
+</I>&gt;<i> English must be the main language.
+</I>
+Right, but I may add to my previous mail that it should be the
+responsibility of community leaders and other members to forward
+information to and fro between the localized platforms and the general
+english lists. Not now, because, as Michael Scherer just wrote, the
+whole situation is overwhelming and chaotic likewise. Great,
+wonderful, thrilling, yes all that. But not really productive in many
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+ Well not really good for me. It reminds me a French mobile company :
+
+Here is the company :
+<A HREF="http://www.bouyguestelecom.fr/">http://www.bouyguestelecom.fr/</A>
+
+ and here is their logo :
+<A HREF="http://www.bouyguestelecom.fr/client/homev2/imagesSite/header/logo-bouygues-telecom.png">http://www.bouyguestelecom.fr/client/homev2/imagesSite/header/logo-bouygues-telecom.png</A>
+
+ JC
+
+2010/9/20 Yves-Ga&#235;l Ch&#233;ny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">yves at antredugeek.fr</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> a friend of mine have send us this picture :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://antredugeek.fr/logo_mageia.jpg">http://antredugeek.fr/logo_mageia.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> waiting for your reaction ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ++
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> hurdman aka yves-gael
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+<PRE>Le lundi 20 septembre 2010 &#224; 14:02 +0200, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Michael,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> you might want to read these mailing lists via gmane.org using a good
+</I>&gt;<i> news (nntp) reader instead, that will make it a lot easier to skip
+</I>&gt;<i> threads you aren't interested in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With regards to the posts of people offering help, that's what the
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia website explicitly says, so you can't really now tell them not
+</I>&gt;<i> to do that (unless you change the test on the web site too):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;For other contributors: if you want your name to be added to the list,
+</I>&gt;<i> indicating that you plan to follow the fork, let us know on IRC channel,
+</I>&gt;<i> or by email.&quot;
+</I>
+Well, as I said, I just went back. I have called Anne yesterday, and we
+will setup a more efficient process ( as I said in the mail ).
+
+And yes, I used gname. It was the first thing I planned to do this
+morning in order to be able to follow, but you beat me in registering
+it.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+&gt;<i> Desole de ne pas ecrire en anglais.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Serait il possible de creer une liste francophone?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> J'ai pu lire sur la liste des utilisateurs de mandriva, que nous sommes
+</I>&gt;<i> plusieurs &#224; vouloir participer a ce projet.
+</I>
+It's the advantage of linux distributions, it's free and you can learn English
+language.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why so pessimistic?
+</I>
+Because I see a necessity of some points you do not think necessary.
+And because I remember discussions about package rules.
+
+&gt;<i> The contributor submits the SRPM (source RPM) of the package he/she has
+</I>&gt;<i> made, then a Mageia packager looks at the spec file and the
+</I>&gt;<i> other included files to see that it all looks ok, then builds it on the
+</I>&gt;<i> official build servers (signed with a Mageia key) and then places it
+</I>&gt;<i> into the contrib-extra repository.
+</I>
+If you think we will have the manpower, ok. If you think these Mageia
+packagers will have the accpetance of all those independent packagers,
+ok.
+
+&gt;<i> The difference between the contrib-extra repo and the more official
+</I>&gt;<i> repos should be that the rules for inclusion should be less strict (no
+</I>&gt;<i> commitment from the contributor to keep the package updated, no official
+</I>&gt;<i> debugging and support from Mageia, acceptance of less free licenses, no
+</I>&gt;<i> need to stringently follow former Mandriva packaging rules, etc).
+</I>
+Hmm, this is something I can not follow your suggestion. IMHO a strict
+set of packaging rules is essential for the maintaining of the quality
+of the whole system, Of course I do not agree that there should be
+less free licenses accepted, except in a non-free repository. The only
+point I agree for such packages would be a &quot;non-obligation&quot; option.
+
+Of course, naming the repo &quot;contrib-extra&quot; and putting out a warning
+about the usage of this repo would clobber all &quot;pessimistic&quot; Ideas of
+mine. :)
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+<PRE>Le 20/09/2010 14:05, isadora a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Thanks Michael,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Understanding for your explanation.
+</I>&gt;<i> But there is one issue which brought up a question.
+</I>&gt;<i> You are writing &quot;launch of the Mageia project since the start some
+</I>&gt;<i> months ago&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> Am i misunderstanding, or did i think the plans just were born some
+</I>&gt;<i> days (weeks at the most) ago?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> isadora
+</I>Hi,
+
+I think many people may have started to dream of such a fork monthes ago
+and among Edge-IT people in particular. The predictable dead of the
+company supporting the distribution you work on can be very inviting to
+such dreams.
+
+I guess people started to speak about the possibility of a fork long ago
+without having real plans.
+
+As i can see no real website, no build system, no bugzilla, no forum i
+guess that the plans were indeed born some days ago even if Michael and
+probably a few others got used to dream and speak about it longer before :)
+
+Ma&#226;t
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+</I>&gt;<i> And yes, I used gname. It was the first thing I planned to do this
+</I>&gt;<i> morning in order to be able to follow, but you beat me in registering
+</I>&gt;<i> it.
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+Sorry, a side note:
+Problem with gmane is the time difference - in gmane web interface
+this thread here only shows the initial mail from Michael, no replies
+at all. this is not usable at all.
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And yes, I used gname. It was the first thing I planned to do this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; morning in order to be able to follow, but you beat me in registering
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, a side note:
+</I>&gt;<i> Problem with gmane is the time difference - in gmane web interface
+</I>&gt;<i> this thread here only shows the initial mail from Michael, no replies
+</I>&gt;<i> at all. this is not usable at all.
+</I>
+Use a nntp news reader with gmane, it's real time, this message of yours
+showed up at the same time in my inbox and on my Seamonkey news reader.
+
+I have never used the web UI for gmane so can't comment on that, but the
+main reason to use gmane is the nntp feed.
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/20 Dark Charlot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jcldc13 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> HI,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well not really good for me. It reminds me a French mobile company :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is the company :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.bouyguestelecom.fr/">http://www.bouyguestelecom.fr/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and here is their logo :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.bouyguestelecom.fr/client/homev2/imagesSite/header/logo-bouygues-telecom.png">http://www.bouyguestelecom.fr/client/homev2/imagesSite/header/logo-bouygues-telecom.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> JC
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Yves-Ga&#235;l Ch&#233;ny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">yves at antredugeek.fr</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a friend of mine have send us this picture :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://antredugeek.fr/logo_mageia.jpg">http://antredugeek.fr/logo_mageia.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> waiting for your reaction ;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ++
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>it reminds me the sony ericsson logo
+<A HREF="http://www.topnews.in/files/Sony.gif">http://www.topnews.in/files/Sony.gif</A>
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+I found that Argentinean domains:
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+* mageia.net.ar
+* mageia.org.ar
+
+were available.
+
+So, I registerd. I hope in the next few days I'll have some
+comfirmation from www.nic.ar
+
+I also requested the registration for mageia.com.ar but it already had
+a request. So, I'm second on the list. Hope that previous request was
+from some user with goodwill.
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+Just ping me anytime to transfer the domains.
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+</I>&gt;<i> main reason to use gmane is the nntp feed.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect10332.png &#160; ofice use
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png gaming ready
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-">http://i0.simplest-image-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png general propose
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> enjoy
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> oxygen guy, &quot;I make the pretty pictures&quot;
+</I>
+Awesome as usual :)
+
+&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> I also requested the registration for mageia.com.ar but it already had
+</I>&gt;<i> a request. So, I'm second on the list. Hope that previous request was
+</I>&gt;<i> from some user with goodwill.
+</I>
+Well.. I received an e-mail from nic.ar saying that I can't register
+mageia.com.ar because it's already registered.
+
+Cheers!
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+<PRE>On 20 September 2010 12:02, Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt; &#160;wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect10332.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect10332.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because it is currently the best logo I have seen so far, I have a few
+</I>&gt;<i> suggestions to give it a final shape.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Use a white background only for your logo. It must be clear and look good
+</I>&gt;<i> everywhere it is would be placed and used.
+</I>&gt;<i> By the way, I really like the shadow, even though it looks a little bit too
+</I>&gt;<i> low perhaps.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. A really liked the various colours you applied to the letters previously.
+</I>&gt;<i> It is really fashionable, and contrasted a little with the serious font you
+</I>&gt;<i> have chosen, offering an interesting balance between the serious and the eye
+</I>&gt;<i> candy in the logo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. The logo, as an image, is currently limited to the name and it's letters.
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no icon in the logo that could represent the distribution by
+</I>&gt;<i> itself. Yet, I do see on your pics some blue bubbles going up on the right.
+</I>&gt;<i> You should try to replace them by something that would clearly remember the
+</I>&gt;<i> magic there has always been in the system since Mandrake : flying stars I
+</I>&gt;<i> would say.
+</I>&gt;<i> VirtualBox OSE has done a representation of all the major Linux distros,
+</I>&gt;<i> ours included, but without copying exactly the logos (except for Ubuntu).
+</I>&gt;<i> You can probably inspire yourself from this :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.virtualbox.org/about_1600px.png">http://www.virtualbox.org/about_1600px.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What I mean here is that your logo is, according to me, the most polished
+</I>&gt;<i> and the one who just feels the best I believe. The only detail missing is
+</I>&gt;<i> important : the identity to which we have been attached to for so long. Add
+</I>&gt;<i> the magic in your logo and it should be among the best suggestions for good.
+</I>&gt;<i> :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You will also have to deliver a monochromatic version of your logo, once it
+</I>&gt;<i> will be finished, once again on a white/transparent background.
+</I>
+Why will he have to do that?
+
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-20 07:41, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Other countries seem to be organising user communities, but I've
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not seen anything for the UK. Perhaps it is easier for some other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> countries as they already had active Mandriva user communities - I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> never managed to find one for the UK, so perhaps it never existed!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Has anybody set up anything for UK Mageia users? If not, would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> anybody from the UK be prepared to help me to start something?
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd help! I'm in Poland, but I'd be interested in helping with any UK
+</I>&gt;<i> English localisation, and supporting and following UK group
+</I>&gt;<i> activities - including any marketing, because it's my nearest
+</I>&gt;<i> English-speaking country and my English is UK English, not US
+</I>&gt;<i> English. I use a UK keyboard, I use Euros and GBP, I use EN-GB
+</I>&gt;<i> dictionaries and thesauruses...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While I agree that a complete repo is a good thing, local user/action
+</I>&gt;<i> groups make it possible to actually organise a large number of
+</I>&gt;<i> people, and to receive ideas from them in manageable chunks...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just an idea...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>I don't think there is anyway around this. Community and Language based
+domain sites will exist as these do also cover cultural and
+nationalistic boundaries. Human nature being what it is, we all want to
+belong to a piece of where we come from. It just depends on how we view
+or define ourselves.
+
+In a perfect world, the Mageia organisers (core group) would have
+pre-registered all important domain names and permutations considered
+important to the project. Even if &quot;Mageia (Linux)&quot; is called a
+community-based project, you still have to approach it from a &quot;business&quot;
+model. Organising the domain situation should be (should have been) top
+priority. Coordinating the registration of the localised (country-based)
+domains for any internet based endeavour (for-profit or non-profit
+organisation) should always figure in the initial planning stages.
+However, this would have required a considerable amount of financial
+outlay at the onset of the project as well as a great amount of
+coordination worldwide with cooperating partners -- you cannot register
+a country-based domain unless you are a citizen of that country or you
+risk being challenged on your ownership and risk losing your domain.
+
+It would then be reasonable to say that the Mageia project will need,
+after all of its initial organizing, to try to coordinate the
+cooperation of language and local websites. Being a community-based
+distro, it would be imperative on our parts to lend a hand at helping
+the project in this way in a non-discriminating way. That is to say, if
+we own a domain that is considered a TLD (top level domain) for this
+project, we should coordinate closely with the flag-ship Mageia domain
+(<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>).
+
+Most of the &quot;mageia&quot; domains and permutations that matter have pretty
+well been registered. The ones that mattered were well registered by the
+end of the day on Sunday. I would suggest that a further name change in
+the near future may be necessary if the coordination under the &quot;Mageia&quot;
+banner is too difficult to manage for the project.
+
+In my opinion, the localised magiea.country domains, should, for now,
+point to the main site, unless the localised site requires special
+language consideration with an obvious link to the main mageia website.
+The main Mageia site should make every effort to support language
+translation of important materials and organise language support fora
+for the different language groups. This, language support fora, should
+then be well coordinated so that a clear path of information makes it
+way back up to the Mageia structure for policy making. Making all work
+together regardless of language barriers is important. The use of Fora
+for the project is important, as for most users today, accessing a
+&quot;forums&quot; board is quite easily done and the feeling of belonging to the
+group is easily achievable. Mailists and NNTP (Usenet) are a little more
+difficult to maintain from a practical view for most users. Making it
+easy to participate to the community will attract a larger amount of
+users. Let's make it easy for users to join and participate.
+
+This then leads to the topic of the one overriding official language for
+the dissemination of Mageia information. We all know that, in the real
+intenational business world, the lingua franca is English. I would
+propose English as the unifying language for the site for all involved.
+This is not to disparage other languages as contributions could still be
+done in the particular fora on the site. The dissemination would then,
+of course, have to be done as much as possible in all languages
+supported by Mageia.
+
+Marc Par&#233;
+Canada
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+On Sep 20, 2010, at 7:07 AM, Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le 20/09/2010 12:53, atilla ontas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also local communities can package software just for their needs and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> won't placed in official repos. Like we providing Zekr (Quran study
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tool) and zemberek (Turkish spell-checking tool) on Mandriva Turkiye
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> repository (MVT)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a not : I am against this form of packaging only for a group of people. Anywhere in the world someone who wants to study a language, turkish for xample, may need it. Currently we need to focus all our efforts in Mageias official repositories and avoid as much as possible having too many different repositories. Programs are usually not territory dependant.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's out of subject anyway, but I wanted to tell clearly my opinion on this. Remember : Mageia takes back the same spirit of easy to use and simplicity that comes form Mandriva and Mandrake. Fiddling with many extra repositories is then what we do not want to hear about. This would even force people to be members or to visit the website to add the repo and then access te program they were looking for. So, that's just no to me.
+</I>
++1
+
+The easiest it is for the user, the better.
+
+Now with globalization, you can find anywhere on the world someone from anywhere of the world.
+
+As an ex-pat I know what I'm talking about.
+
+Salut,
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+<PRE>Le lundi 20 septembre 2010 14:02:39, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> you might want to read these mailing lists via gmane.org using a good
+</I>&gt;<i> news (nntp) reader instead, that will make it a lot easier to skip
+</I>&gt;<i> threads you aren't interested in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With regards to the posts of people offering help, that's what the
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia website explicitly says, so you can't really now tell them not
+</I>&gt;<i> to do that (unless you change the test on the web site too):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;For other contributors: if you want your name to be added to the list,
+</I>&gt;<i> indicating that you plan to follow the fork, let us know on IRC channel,
+</I>&gt;<i> or by email.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hello world :)
+
+First, sorry for my english. I'm french and as many french, my english is rubbish :)
+
+Just few words to say tha the whole team is working hard on setting up a wiki to allow users to write the kind of help they could offer to this project. This will be set tomorrow, except if they are ready before. Many many thanks to everybody. Stay tuned :)
+
+Fredxx
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+&gt;<i> On 20 September 2010 12:02, Thomas Lottmann&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect10332.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect10332.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png">http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Because it is currently the best logo I have seen so far, I have a few
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> suggestions to give it a final shape.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Use a white background only for your logo. It must be clear and look good
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everywhere it is would be placed and used.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> By the way, I really like the shadow, even though it looks a little bit too
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> low perhaps.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. A really liked the various colours you applied to the letters previously.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is really fashionable, and contrasted a little with the serious font you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have chosen, offering an interesting balance between the serious and the eye
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> candy in the logo.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. The logo, as an image, is currently limited to the name and it's letters.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is no icon in the logo that could represent the distribution by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> itself. Yet, I do see on your pics some blue bubbles going up on the right.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You should try to replace them by something that would clearly remember the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> magic there has always been in the system since Mandrake : flying stars I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would say.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> VirtualBox OSE has done a representation of all the major Linux distros,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ours included, but without copying exactly the logos (except for Ubuntu).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can probably inspire yourself from this :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.virtualbox.org/about_1600px.png">http://www.virtualbox.org/about_1600px.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What I mean here is that your logo is, according to me, the most polished
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and the one who just feels the best I believe. The only detail missing is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> important : the identity to which we have been attached to for so long. Add
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the magic in your logo and it should be among the best suggestions for good.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> :-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You will also have to deliver a monochromatic version of your logo, once it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will be finished, once again on a white/transparent background.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why will he have to do that?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>To have clear and clean logos, that could be reusable through these
+various formats depending on the use that will be done of them. Some
+people prefer working on vectorial formats, other on JPG or PNG. This
+works also when integrating it on websites or for reuse in artwork.
+Mandriva used to offer it's logos in a .zip folder containing each all
+of these files. And I think this is the right thing to do for effective
+redistribution and reuse.
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+&gt;<i> Le 2010-09-19 16:39, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;When you go to <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org,">http://www.mageia.org,</A> you go to the project
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;website, but when you type <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/">https://www.mageia.org/</A> you go to a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;page entitled &quot;Welcome to zarb.org&quot;. This occurs mainly when
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;leaving mail-list options page. I guess what should be fixed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;because can cause confusion.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> You also get strange results if you type in <A HREF="http://www.mageia.nl,">http://www.mageia.nl,</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.nl;">http://mageia.nl;</A> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.nl">https://www.mageia.nl</A> and finally <A HREF="http://mageia.nl">http://mageia.nl</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> . Sorry I deleted the email where the owner of the mageia.nl owner
+</I>&gt;<i> announced the site offered a link to the official mageia.org site.
+</I>&gt;<i> Some of these lead to the zarb.org site.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>
+
+Hi,
+
+That would have been me. For now I forward mageia.nl to mageia.org through
+DNS. For this to work properly, the admin of the official mageia.org
+website has to edit their webserver configuration. The issue with
+www.mageia.nl not working was a typo on my side :-( which I now have
+fixed.
+
+That said, I realise I registered the domain in my enthusiasm and also
+with the hope to prevent an 'outside' party from registering it. We can do
+several things with it:
+
+1) Hand ownership of the domain over to mageia.org.
+
+2) Keep forwarding the DNS for now as it is.
+
+3) Set up a dummy page on my server redirecting to the official mageia.org
+page.
+
+4) Set up a Dutch forum dedicated to mageia on that domain.
+
+5) Hand ownership of the domain over to an existing NL based usergroup.
+
+6) Point DNS nowhere for now.
+
+Mageia staff can reach me on this email address if needed or tag me on IRC
+(Remmy)
+
+Thanks,
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That said, I realise I registered the domain in my enthusiasm and also
+</I>&gt;<i> with the hope to prevent an 'outside' party from registering it. We can do
+</I>&gt;<i> several things with it:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) Hand ownership of the domain over to mageia.org.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) Keep forwarding the DNS for now as it is.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) Set up a dummy page on my server redirecting to the official mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4) Set up a Dutch forum dedicated to mageia on that domain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5) Hand ownership of the domain over to an existing NL based usergroup.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 6) Point DNS nowhere for now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia staff can reach me on this email address if needed or tag me on IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> (Remmy)
+</I>
+I did the same but I did not set a redirect. I placed a sentence on
+the site which tells people in German to either go to the main
+mageia.org site or to the German Mandriva Linux Community which will
+support Mageia as soon as support is needed, The User can click on the
+links, it works. Nothing to be changed in any setup.
+What will become of the site is in the future, similar to your points 1 or 5.
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+&gt;<i> I must have missed some posting that explains &quot;mageia&quot;!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the origin of this name, please?
+</I>
+&quot;mageia&quot; is greek and means &quot;magic&quot; or &quot;wizzardry&quot; - we are back to
+the roots! The first name of this distribution was &quot;Linux Mandrake&quot;
+actually named after the comic wizard &quot;Mandrake the Magician&quot; and the
+first logo showed this comic character. A last part of this logo is
+still the Mandriva star, it was attached to the magic stick of
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+&gt;<i> I must have missed some posting that explains &quot;mageia&quot;!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the origin of this name, please?
+</I>
+Hi,
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+It's rather well explained on wikipedia :
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia</A>
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+&gt;<i> I must have missed some posting that explains &quot;mageia&quot;!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the origin of this name, please?
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+It's ancient greek and means &quot;magic&quot;.
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+magic&lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic</A>&gt;in english. It's a reference
+to Mandrake
+(the magician) &lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Mandrake">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Mandrake</A>&gt;, old name of the
+distribution Mandriva Linux &lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandriva_Linux">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandriva_Linux</A>&gt;.
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+2010/9/20 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I must have missed some posting that explains &quot;mageia&quot;!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What is the origin of this name, please?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's ancient greek and means &quot;magic&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
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+While 2 just explained it, one gave the link to wikipedia and one
+cited wikipedia.
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+It must be true! :)
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+2010/9/20 Basilio Rosa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">basiliog at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> The term Mageia &#8212; &#956;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#943;&#945; in greek &#8212; means magic in english. It's a reference
+</I>&gt;<i> to Mandrake (the magician), old name of the distribution Mandriva Linux.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I must have missed some posting that explains &quot;mageia&quot;!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; What is the origin of this name, please?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's ancient greek and means &quot;magic&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+&gt;<i>2010/9/20 Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I must have missed some posting that explains &quot;mageia&quot;!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is the origin of this name, please?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>&quot;mageia&quot; is greek and means &quot;magic&quot; or &quot;wizzardry&quot; -
+</I>
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+I can't believe it: it appears very French to me:
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+MAndriva Gens d'Edge-It Anciens: MAGEIA.
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-20 12:38, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :&gt; &lt;pre wrap&gt;
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Remco Rijnders
+</I>&amp;lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco-BFHUS2cQccxcKrbEW9aRdA at public.gmane.org</A>&amp;gt;:
+&gt;<i> &lt;/pre&gt;&lt;blockquote type=cite&gt;&lt;pre wrap&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That said, I realise I registered the domain in my enthusiasm and also
+</I>&gt;<i> with the hope to prevent an 'outside' party from registering it. We can do
+</I>&gt;<i> several things with it:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) Hand ownership of the domain over to mageia.org.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) Keep forwarding the DNS for now as it is.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) Set up a dummy page on my server redirecting to the official mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4) Set up a Dutch forum dedicated to mageia on that domain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5) Hand ownership of the domain over to an existing NL based usergroup.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 6) Point DNS nowhere for now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia staff can reach me on this email address if needed or tag me on IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> (Remmy)
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;/pre&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;pre wrap&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did the same but I did not set a redirect. I placed a sentence on
+</I>&gt;<i> the site which tells people in German to either go to the main
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia.org site or to the German Mandriva Linux Community which will
+</I>&gt;<i> support Mageia as soon as support is needed, The User can click on the
+</I>&gt;<i> links, it works. Nothing to be changed in any setup.
+</I>&gt;<i> What will become of the site is in the future, similar to your points
+</I>1 or 5.
+
+I wonder how many on this list have ownership of the mageia.xx domain?
+We now know of the three of us. I imagine at some point the list of
+owners would be collected.
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:18:54 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote about Re:
+</I>&gt;<i> [Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>2010/9/20 Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I must have missed some posting that explains &quot;mageia&quot;!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What is the origin of this name, please?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>&quot;mageia&quot; is greek and means &quot;magic&quot; or &quot;wizzardry&quot; -
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't believe it: it appears very French to me:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> MAndriva Gens d'Edge-It Anciens: MAGEIA.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ;)
+</I>
+Wow ! Very imaginative /me applause the performance...
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+...but a little bit too far-fetched to be plausible imho :)
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+</I>&gt;<i> While 2 just explained it, one gave the link to wikipedia and one
+</I>&gt;<i> cited wikipedia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It must be true! :)
+</I>Or at least it is the opinion of the majority of users who care for that
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+Nuno Pinheiro &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nuno at oxygen-icons.org</A>&gt; napisa&#322;(a):
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+</I>&gt;<i> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect10332.png ofice use
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+</I>&gt;<i> hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/rect13596.png general
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+<PRE>On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 10:26 -0700, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> Now we have read it from 4 different people:
+</I>&gt;<i> While 2 just explained it, one gave the link to wikipedia and one
+</I>&gt;<i> cited wikipedia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It must be true! :)
+</I>
+Yup, true alright.
+
+These magic ideas come from Homer's Illead and Odyssey books. The first
+Greek magician was Circe (which today lives on in the word circle,
+church, kirche, kerk, kirk) and the origin of the magic wand is the
+Greek goddess Athene, who waved her wand when she did things for her son
+Odysseus.
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+Cheers,
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+wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:26:01 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now we have read it from 4 different people:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> While 2 just explained it, one gave the link to wikipedia and one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cited wikipedia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It must be true! :)
+</I>&gt;<i> Or at least it is the opinion of the majority of users who care for that
+</I>&gt;<i> topic :) And if the caring majority thinks it is true.. who cares if it
+</I>&gt;<i> really
+</I>&gt;<i> is? ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thoughts are creative... whether we like/believe it or not they shape the
+world ;)
+
+White magic is a very strong and positive symbol inside collective
+unconscious.
+
+A Linux distribution starting under the auspices of the &quot;great white
+wizard&quot; (Merlin, Gandalf... he's got many names ^^) is something i
+definitely like :)
+
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+Ma&#226;t
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> I have helped Mandriva translation since 2005 and have communication
+</I>&gt;<i> with various Mandriva local users in Taiwan. Actually we don't have an
+</I>&gt;<i> independent Mandriva forum or local user group before, so there is a
+</I>&gt;<i> google group &quot;mageia-taiwan&quot; just established for new comers and old
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva users, and I can help translation and contact local mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> site admins once most things are settled down.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+Excellent!
+
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+Yup, true alright.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These magic ideas come from Homer's Illead and Odyssey books. The first
+</I>&gt;<i> Greek magician was Circe (which today lives on in the word circle,
+</I>&gt;<i> church, kirche, kerk, kirk) and the origin of the magic wand is the
+</I>&gt;<i> Greek goddess Athene, who waved her wand when she did things for her son
+</I>&gt;<i> Odysseus.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+And the most powerLook at this topic the images of Circe !!
+
+<A HREF="http://www.atoute.org/n/forum/showthread.php?t=115993">http://www.atoute.org/n/forum/showthread.php?t=115993</A>
+and maybe some ideas for the graphics of Mageia
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+<PRE>Le lundi 20 septembre 2010 &#224; 17:30 +0100, Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I must have missed some posting that explains &quot;mageia&quot;!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the origin of this name, please?
+</I>
+There was some peoples ( primarily people at the origin of the fork )
+who proposed some names ( I estimated to 40/50 proposal ), and then we
+removed all that were not suitable :
+
+- already used on .org domain name ( nebula, for example )
+
+- unsuitable because it was too funny and not professional, ie mostly
+private joke in French ( tartopom, for example ).
+
+- trademarked by checking inpi.fr for the various class of use we wanted
+( ie, while having a name trademarked for wine was not a issue, a name
+used in book edition could have been ), for example, toucan was
+proposed, but this is trademarked in France.
+
+- trademarked in the rest of the world.
+
+- already used by a old linux distribution, ( diamond linux )
+
+- too similar to some big name in computing field ( ubun3 )
+
+- already used by another software or company ( nexodus ) without being
+trademarked
+
+- already used by people who could have enough money to sue ( mango )
+even in a different domain
+
+- unsuitable and seen as offensive in languages we check ( of course,
+with 6900 languages on the planet, chances are high that every possible
+name can be funny for at least one person, but problem is when there is
+a lot more than one ), for example mirably ( too similar to miserably )
+
+- not refused by ennael ( as I proposed ennalinux :) )
+
+- not too similar to Mandriva stuff ( some people proposed BlueBird,
+which I liked a lot, except this was the codename of Mandrake 8.2, and
+traktopel, which was 8.0 )
+
+- not too long
+
+- implicitly, we also tried to avoid everything outside of ascii ( even
+if some people proposed a chinese name, they will recognize
+themselves ). I say implictly because almost everything was ascii.
+
+We also tried to get a name which could be used for design ( ie, we try
+to avoid turd linux ), with name not already taken everywhere, with .com
+availiable, and with a possible good catch phrase but we had to relax
+theses checks, as the twitter account was not available, and as the .com
+domain name was already taken ( but that's not a issue, IMHO ). And I
+think no one thought of the design/catchphrase stuff in the last run.
+
+And so basically, after removing more than 95% of the various proposals,
+only 2 names survived after the selection. And we voted to keep one
+( and no, I will keep the other one secret ).
+
+Of course, this explanation is less sexy than the other one about &quot;this
+come from greek&quot;, which are true too, but I want to highlight that
+choosing a name is neither easy or as fun as it sound. And that we
+didn't start by saying &quot;wow, greek is a cool language, let's find a word
+from it&quot;.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+<PRE>On Monday 20 September 2010, Ma&#226;t wrote:
+&gt;<i> As i can see no real website, no build system, no bugzilla, no forum i
+</I>&gt;<i> guess that the plans were indeed born some days ago even if Michael and
+</I>&gt;<i> probably a few others got used to dream and speak about it longer before :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Some ideas are much older than a few days. 2 years in my case. But we still
+wait to see if people will pick them up or continue to do the same mistakes
+that have driven Mandriva to bankruptcy, and the Linux ecosystem[1] to
+disgrace.
+
+It's not about &quot;punishing&quot; the Mandriva SA. or the commercial side in general.
+It is about a new start, about the original idea behind Linux (as in concept,
+not product).
+
+
+[1] remember our dreams, a few years ago? Where do we stand now? How many of
+them did we manage to achieve?
+
+
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+<PRE>On 20 September 2010 15:57, Ma&#226;t &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 20/09/2010 14:05, isadora a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks Michael,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Understanding for your explanation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But there is one issue which brought up a question.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You are writing &quot;launch of the Mageia project since the start some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> months ago&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am i misunderstanding, or did i think the plans just were born some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> days (weeks at the most) ago?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> isadora
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think many people may have started to dream of such a fork monthes ago
+</I>&gt;<i> and among Edge-IT people in particular. The predictable dead of the
+</I>&gt;<i> company supporting the distribution you work on can be very inviting to
+</I>&gt;<i> such dreams.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess people started to speak about the possibility of a fork long ago
+</I>&gt;<i> without having real plans.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As i can see no real website, no build system, no bugzilla, no forum i
+</I>&gt;<i> guess that the plans were indeed born some days ago even if Michael and
+</I>&gt;<i> probably a few others got used to dream and speak about it longer before :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ma&#226;t
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Talk publicly about their plans and see them go to waste as would
+happen with any project that's announced prematurely?
+
+Ones thinks, plans, decides, then go public, in that order... I don't
+think it works any other way. :)
+
+(something similar happened when Mandriva Linux was first kickstarted
+by its founders, you think they had a forum/wiki/bugzilla from day 1?
+I don't..).
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+Hello: I'm a Mandriva user from lonng time ago.
+
+I would like to contribute my little grain of sand:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia5.jpg">http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia5.jpg</A>
+
+(Made with Gimp)
+
+
+ Saludos de Redy
+ Usuario de Linux n&#250;mero 210.399 en <A HREF="http://counter.li.org.">http://counter.li.org.</A>
+ [ Parolas BBS 100% Linux native parolas.thebbs.org ]
+
+ In a world without frontiers, who needs Gates and Windows?
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+opinions.
+
+Have any decision been made?
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+
+I'm keen to get moving on the user forum; could we get some representation
+on <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> as a start?
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+<PRE>2010/9/20 Paul Willard &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">paul at mcrides.co.nz</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> So a couple of days have passed, and a bunch of people have expressed their
+</I>&gt;<i> opinions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Have any decision been made?
+</I>
+We are planning first communication for tomorrow morning. stay tuned :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I&#8217;m keen to get moving on the user forum; could we get some representation
+</I>&gt;<i> on <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> as a start?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Paul Willard.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+--
+-------
+Anne
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+ <B>Paul Willard</B>
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+<PRE>Could I at least get listed on the site? Something similar to wobo? :)
+
+Paul Willard A.K.A TerminalAddict.
+
+-----Original Message-----
+From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>
+[mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] On Behalf Of Anne nicolas
+Sent: Tuesday, 21 September 2010 9:03 a.m.
+To: Mageia general discussions
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum (
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+2010/9/20 Paul Willard &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">paul at mcrides.co.nz</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> So a couple of days have passed, and a bunch of people have expressed
+</I>&gt;<i> their opinions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Have any decision been made?
+</I>
+We are planning first communication for tomorrow morning. stay tuned :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm keen to get moving on the user forum; could we get some
+</I>&gt;<i> representation on <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> as a start?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Paul Willard.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+
+--
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+ <B>Frank Loewe</B>
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+Pals, calm down
+&gt;<i> no build system, no bugzilla, no Forum
+</I>
+where is the problem? Many people and I are offering our help.
+A build system? Is your Prob the HW or the scripts that will do the jobs?
+First of all can be resolved within hours.
+
+I can only talk for me, respective my company, for build or development purpose, we have
+a lot of machines left over right now, searching for a task to do.
+
+A forum is used? Where is the problem? It&#180;s our job, and the job of some others on this list.
+Bugzilla? It&#180;s webgbased. This is our job too, so take it easy.
+
+This standard task will need 1-2 days for people which does his every day.
+
+The only thing has to be done, is to tell the contributors, that they are welcome, and what is in need.
+This is a task for a project leader.
+
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+ <B>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m</B>
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+I've unofficially been helping Mandriva to translate from English to
+Swedish &amp; since Mageia is starting to exist, I'll move over to it when a
+fresh ISO is out.
+
+Therefor I wish to have my name on mageia.org as a Swedish translator if
+that's OK.
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+<PRE>Op maandag 20 september 2010 21:42:39 schreef Michael Scherer:
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 20 septembre 2010 &#224; 17:30 +0100, Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I must have missed some posting that explains &quot;mageia&quot;!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What is the origin of this name, please?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was some peoples ( primarily people at the origin of the fork )
+</I>&gt;<i> who proposed some names ( I estimated to 40/50 proposal ), and then we
+</I>&gt;<i> removed all that were not suitable :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - already used on .org domain name ( nebula, for example )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - unsuitable because it was too funny and not professional, ie mostly
+</I>&gt;<i> private joke in French ( tartopom, for example ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - trademarked by checking inpi.fr for the various class of use we wanted
+</I>&gt;<i> ( ie, while having a name trademarked for wine was not a issue, a name
+</I>&gt;<i> used in book edition could have been ), for example, toucan was
+</I>&gt;<i> proposed, but this is trademarked in France.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - trademarked in the rest of the world.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - already used by a old linux distribution, ( diamond linux )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - too similar to some big name in computing field ( ubun3 )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - already used by another software or company ( nexodus ) without being
+</I>&gt;<i> trademarked
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - already used by people who could have enough money to sue ( mango )
+</I>&gt;<i> even in a different domain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - unsuitable and seen as offensive in languages we check ( of course,
+</I>&gt;<i> with 6900 languages on the planet, chances are high that every possible
+</I>&gt;<i> name can be funny for at least one person, but problem is when there is
+</I>&gt;<i> a lot more than one ), for example mirably ( too similar to miserably )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - not refused by ennael ( as I proposed ennalinux :) )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - not too similar to Mandriva stuff ( some people proposed BlueBird,
+</I>&gt;<i> which I liked a lot, except this was the codename of Mandrake 8.2, and
+</I>&gt;<i> traktopel, which was 8.0 )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - not too long
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - implicitly, we also tried to avoid everything outside of ascii ( even
+</I>&gt;<i> if some people proposed a chinese name, they will recognize
+</I>&gt;<i> themselves ). I say implictly because almost everything was ascii.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We also tried to get a name which could be used for design ( ie, we try
+</I>&gt;<i> to avoid turd linux ), with name not already taken everywhere, with .com
+</I>&gt;<i> availiable, and with a possible good catch phrase but we had to relax
+</I>&gt;<i> theses checks, as the twitter account was not available, and as the .com
+</I>&gt;<i> domain name was already taken ( but that's not a issue, IMHO ). And I
+</I>&gt;<i> think no one thought of the design/catchphrase stuff in the last run.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And so basically, after removing more than 95% of the various proposals,
+</I>&gt;<i> only 2 names survived after the selection. And we voted to keep one
+</I>&gt;<i> ( and no, I will keep the other one secret ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, this explanation is less sexy than the other one about &quot;this
+</I>&gt;<i> come from greek&quot;, which are true too, but I want to highlight that
+</I>&gt;<i> choosing a name is neither easy or as fun as it sound. And that we
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't start by saying &quot;wow, greek is a cool language, let's find a word
+</I>&gt;<i> from it&quot;.
+</I>
+
+This is an amazing explanation, and something that a lot of people could
+benefit from reading.
+
+I knew that it's not an easy task to get a name, and with explaning this
+process, i can only imagine the fun you guys musta had when brainstorming for
+a name
+
+&quot;ubun3&quot;, &quot;turd linux&quot;, ...
+
+thanks for the good explanation.
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+<PRE> On 19/09/10 19:29, Mihai Dobrescu wrote:
+&gt;<i> I like the second most, has more 3d in it, and the lightning bolts are so
+</I>&gt;<i> dynamic.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg">http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4062/mageia1.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is my favourite till now. It has a nice magical feeling and it isn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some variation of the Mandriva star...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This is my current favourite as well. I haven't had the time to read the
+whole thread, but I saw some pointed out the problem with using the bolt
+image found on Google.
+In that case, if we're talking magic, how about some sort of crystal
+ball to replace it? We could even implement Tux embracing the globe
+inside it, or maybe we could make the crystal ball some sort of faded
+globe to represent the globalisation of the project?
+
+Regards,
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+[...]
+&gt;<i> Of course, this explanation is less sexy than the other one about &quot;this
+</I>&gt;<i> come from greek&quot;, which are true too, but I want to highlight that
+</I>&gt;<i> choosing a name is neither easy or as fun as it sound. And that we
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't start by saying &quot;wow, greek is a cool language, let's find a word
+</I>&gt;<i> from it&quot;.
+</I>
+one more question:
+
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+cause of this being an international distribution, effectively?)
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Paul Willard &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">paul at mcrides.co.nz</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So a couple of days have passed, and a bunch of people have expressed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; their opinions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Have any decision been made?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are planning first communication for tomorrow morning. stay tuned :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>[...]
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+ <B>Olav Dahlum</B>
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+<PRE> On 20/09/10 23:42, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m wrote:
+&gt;<i> My name's Kristoffer (It's the same as saying Christopher) Grundstr&#246;m.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've unofficially been helping Mandriva to translate from English to
+</I>&gt;<i> Swedish &amp; since Mageia is starting to exist, I'll move over to it when
+</I>&gt;<i> a fresh ISO is out.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Therefor I wish to have my name on mageia.org as a Swedish translator
+</I>&gt;<i> if that's OK.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best wishes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /Kristoffer
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+You have to wait for the Swedish translation team to be formed.
+
+-Olav.
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+ <B>atilla ontas</B>
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+<PRE>I' m sorry. I have just released i didn't attach Turkish translation.
+
+2010/9/20 atilla ontas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi there! I have been looking exactly for this! I am Turkish
+</I>&gt;<i> translator, not-well-experienced packager (you may head MVT repo) and
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva Turkiye forum admin. I can contribute in those ways. I have
+</I>&gt;<i> already translated announcement to turkish. Please include this
+</I>&gt;<i> translation on main page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Atilla &#214;NTA&#350; (tarakbumba)
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva Turkiye Community Admin
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+ <B>Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado</B>
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+<PRE>muestra de posible logo, tambi&#233;n ac&#225;:
+<A HREF="http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7849/mageia3.jpg">http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7849/mageia3.jpg</A>
+
+[image: mageia3.jpg]
+
+--
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+ <B>Pavel Fric</B>
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+ <I>Mon Sep 20 22:49:07 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I have small question. Were there some another suggestions for naming of fork of Mandrake/Mandriva? With my research activity I am interested in decision processes inside new communities just being born.
+
+For example something rather mystical than magical?
+
+My suggestion: &quot;Aurora Ascendante&quot; :-)
+
+Greetings, Pavel Fric
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Sep 20 00:00:35 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Sep 20 23:51:15 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 164<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001280.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo.
+</A><A NAME="1280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000223.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000257.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000274.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000278.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000252.html">[Mageia-discuss] Repositories: Was [UK user community?]
+</A><A NAME="252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Repositories: Was [UK user community?]
+</A><A NAME="255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fr&#233;d&#233;ric CUIF
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000279.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dark Charlot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-discuss] Criticism
+</A><A NAME="316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000271.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yves-Ga&#235;l Ch&#233;ny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yann Ciret
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000222.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Fr&#233;d&#233;ric GOMEZ - MG Consultants
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000328.html">[Mageia-discuss] Swedish translator
+</A><A NAME="328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000241.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000266.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001281.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia - naming
+</A><A NAME="1281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pavel Fric
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tomasz Pawe&#322; Gajc
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000276.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000277.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-discuss] Registering domains
+</A><A NAME="287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-discuss] Registering domains
+</A><A NAME="290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to offer help
+</A><A NAME="203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000217.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000245.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000247.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000250.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000261.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000265.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Swedish translator
+</A><A NAME="323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000229.html">[Mageia-discuss] Taiwan user community and zh-TW l10n
+</A><A NAME="229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000259.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JackDaniels93
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000213.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000219.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000238.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000216.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000232.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>James Kerr
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000240.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000211.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000218.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions
+</A><A NAME="218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Offering Help
+</A><A NAME="292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Loewe
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-discuss] Criticism
+</A><A NAME="322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Loewe
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000225.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000237.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000248.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000244.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gergely L&#243;nyai
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000221.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000260.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000301.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000210.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Miguel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000215.html">[Mageia-discuss] Which is the governing structure?
+</A><A NAME="215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Miguel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000270.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean-Christophe Monnard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000224.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florent Monnier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000220.html">[Mageia-discuss] Which is the governing structure?
+</A><A NAME="220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000236.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000263.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romulo Pires
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Taiwan user community and zh-TW l10n
+</A><A NAME="312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000231.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pacho Ramos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Redy Rodriguez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Basilio Rosa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sadiq Saif
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000272.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sadiq Saif
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sophie ask to join the project
+</A><A NAME="194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000209.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Martial Saunois
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000264.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jochen Sch&#246;nfelder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000212.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000228.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000235.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sophie ask to join the project
+</A><A NAME="183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia lists now on gmane.org
+</A><A NAME="169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000246.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000262.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000268.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia lists now on gmane.org
+</A><A NAME="173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Markus Ueberall
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum ( http://mageiausers.org )
+</A><A NAME="327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000319.html">[Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum ( http://mageiausers.org )
+</A><A NAME="319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum ( http://mageiausers.org )
+</A><A NAME="321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>francisco monge a
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>barsalatino
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>franck
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000226.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>franck
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000230.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000267.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejobj at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia UAE
+</A><A NAME="251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hermit
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000269.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000273.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>jbj.mdv
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum ( http://mageiausers.org )
+</A><A NAME="320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000233.html">[Mageia-discuss] Announcement translati&#305;n and willing to help
+</A><A NAME="233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001279.html">[Mageia-discuss] Announcement translati&#305;n and willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000239.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000243.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000249.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000253.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Repositories: Was [UK user community?]
+</A><A NAME="256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000258.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000242.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Sep 20 23:51:15 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 19:32:43 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>20 September 2010 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Sep 20 00:00:35 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Sep 20 23:51:15 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 164<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yann Ciret
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia lists now on gmane.org
+</A><A NAME="169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000209.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Martial Saunois
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>barsalatino
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia lists now on gmane.org
+</A><A NAME="173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Markus Ueberall
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejobj at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hermit
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sophie ask to join the project
+</A><A NAME="183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sadiq Saif
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sophie ask to join the project
+</A><A NAME="194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romulo Pires
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>francisco monge a
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to offer help
+</A><A NAME="203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000216.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000211.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000210.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Miguel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000212.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000213.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000215.html">[Mageia-discuss] Which is the governing structure?
+</A><A NAME="215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Miguel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000218.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions
+</A><A NAME="218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000217.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000219.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000220.html">[Mageia-discuss] Which is the governing structure?
+</A><A NAME="220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000221.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000222.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Fr&#233;d&#233;ric GOMEZ - MG Consultants
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000223.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000224.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florent Monnier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000225.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>franck
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000226.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>franck
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000228.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000229.html">[Mageia-discuss] Taiwan user community and zh-TW l10n
+</A><A NAME="229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000230.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000231.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pacho Ramos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000232.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>James Kerr
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000233.html">[Mageia-discuss] Announcement translati&#305;n and willing to help
+</A><A NAME="233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000235.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000236.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000237.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001279.html">[Mageia-discuss] Announcement translati&#305;n and willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000238.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000239.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000240.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000241.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000242.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000244.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gergely L&#243;nyai
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000243.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000245.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000246.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000247.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000248.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000249.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000250.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia UAE
+</A><A NAME="251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000252.html">[Mageia-discuss] Repositories: Was [UK user community?]
+</A><A NAME="252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000253.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Repositories: Was [UK user community?]
+</A><A NAME="255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Repositories: Was [UK user community?]
+</A><A NAME="256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000257.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000263.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000258.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000259.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JackDaniels93
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000266.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000260.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000261.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000262.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000264.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000265.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000270.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean-Christophe Monnard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000268.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000267.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000269.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000271.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yves-Ga&#235;l Ch&#233;ny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000272.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sadiq Saif
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000273.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000274.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000276.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000277.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000278.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000279.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dark Charlot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>jbj.mdv
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-discuss] Registering domains
+</A><A NAME="287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-discuss] Registering domains
+</A><A NAME="290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Offering Help
+</A><A NAME="292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Loewe
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fr&#233;d&#233;ric CUIF
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001280.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo.
+</A><A NAME="1280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000301.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Basilio Rosa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jochen Sch&#246;nfelder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tomasz Pawe&#322; Gajc
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Taiwan user community and zh-TW l10n
+</A><A NAME="312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-discuss] Criticism
+</A><A NAME="316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Redy Rodriguez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001281.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia - naming
+</A><A NAME="1281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pavel Fric
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000319.html">[Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum ( http://mageiausers.org )
+</A><A NAME="319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum ( http://mageiausers.org )
+</A><A NAME="320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum ( http://mageiausers.org )
+</A><A NAME="321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-discuss] Criticism
+</A><A NAME="322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Loewe
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Swedish translator
+</A><A NAME="323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum ( http://mageiausers.org )
+</A><A NAME="327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000328.html">[Mageia-discuss] Swedish translator
+</A><A NAME="328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Sep 20 23:51:15 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 19:32:43 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>20 September 2010 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Sep 20 00:00:35 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Sep 20 23:51:15 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 164<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000264.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000268.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000269.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fr&#233;d&#233;ric CUIF
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000233.html">[Mageia-discuss] Announcement translati&#305;n and willing to help
+</A><A NAME="233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001279.html">[Mageia-discuss] Announcement translati&#305;n and willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000216.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000211.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000222.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Fr&#233;d&#233;ric GOMEZ - MG Consultants
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000224.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florent Monnier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>franck
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000226.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>franck
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000228.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000230.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000231.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pacho Ramos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000241.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000245.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000259.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JackDaniels93
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000265.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000271.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yves-Ga&#235;l Ch&#233;ny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000272.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sadiq Saif
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000273.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000277.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000279.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dark Charlot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Redy Rodriguez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000270.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean-Christophe Monnard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000274.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000276.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000278.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>jbj.mdv
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>barsalatino
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejobj at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romulo Pires
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>francisco monge a
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-discuss] Criticism
+</A><A NAME="316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-discuss] Criticism
+</A><A NAME="322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Loewe
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000319.html">[Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum ( http://mageiausers.org )
+</A><A NAME="319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum ( http://mageiausers.org )
+</A><A NAME="321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Paul Willard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum ( http://mageiausers.org )
+</A><A NAME="327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-discuss] english speaking user forum ( http://mageiausers.org )
+</A><A NAME="320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000212.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000213.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000217.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000219.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000225.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tomasz Pawe&#322; Gajc
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000223.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000209.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Martial Saunois
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000210.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Miguel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yann Ciret
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hermit
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001280.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo.
+</A><A NAME="1280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001281.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia - naming
+</A><A NAME="1281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pavel Fric
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia lists now on gmane.org
+</A><A NAME="169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia lists now on gmane.org
+</A><A NAME="173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Markus Ueberall
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia UAE
+</A><A NAME="251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Offering Help
+</A><A NAME="292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Loewe
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000301.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Basilio Rosa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jochen Sch&#246;nfelder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-discuss] Registering domains
+</A><A NAME="287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-discuss] Registering domains
+</A><A NAME="290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000252.html">[Mageia-discuss] Repositories: Was [UK user community?]
+</A><A NAME="252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Repositories: Was [UK user community?]
+</A><A NAME="255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Repositories: Was [UK user community?]
+</A><A NAME="256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000239.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000244.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gergely L&#243;nyai
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sophie ask to join the project
+</A><A NAME="183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sophie ask to join the project
+</A><A NAME="194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000218.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions
+</A><A NAME="218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Swedish translator
+</A><A NAME="323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000328.html">[Mageia-discuss] Swedish translator
+</A><A NAME="328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000229.html">[Mageia-discuss] Taiwan user community and zh-TW l10n
+</A><A NAME="229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Taiwan user community and zh-TW l10n
+</A><A NAME="312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000221.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000232.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>James Kerr
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000235.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000236.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000237.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000238.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000240.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000243.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000246.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000247.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000248.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000249.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000250.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000253.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000257.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000263.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000258.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000266.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000260.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000261.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000262.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000267.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000215.html">[Mageia-discuss] Which is the governing structure?
+</A><A NAME="215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Miguel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000220.html">[Mageia-discuss] Which is the governing structure?
+</A><A NAME="220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000242.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sadiq Saif
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to offer help
+</A><A NAME="203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Sep 20 23:51:15 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 19:32:43 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>20 September 2010 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Sep 20 00:00:35 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Sep 20 23:51:15 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 164<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01284933635- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yann Ciret
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284933635-01284934140- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284933814- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia
+</A><A NAME="167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284934404- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia lists now on gmane.org
+</A><A NAME="169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284934404-01284935501- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia lists now on gmane.org
+</A><A NAME="173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Markus Ueberall
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284934423- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284934453- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000209.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
+</A><A NAME="209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Martial Saunois
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284934518- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284934844- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>barsalatino
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284935780- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284935780-01284936716- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284936234- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Olivetti
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284936234-01284937553- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284936281- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284936281-01284938299- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-discuss] Important stuff?
+</A><A NAME="181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hermit
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284937377- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejobj at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284938243- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284938997- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284938997-01284939735- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sadiq Saif
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284938997-01284940119- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>vfmBOFH
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284938997-01284979618- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000242.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will these messages be read by Mageia &quot;directors&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284939370- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sophie ask to join the project
+</A><A NAME="183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284939370-01284945830- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sophie ask to join the project
+</A><A NAME="194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284940375- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284940375-01284941999- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284940691- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284940691-01284943515- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284943978- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284943978-01284982807- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000259.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JackDaniels93
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284943978-01284982807-01284983668- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000265.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284944426- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284944426-01284964834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284944672- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284944672-01284978316- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000239.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284944758- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284946894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284946894-01284947175- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romulo Pires
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284946894-01284955248- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>francisco monge a
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284946894-01284955248-01284960698- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284948620- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-discuss] domain names
+</A><A NAME="197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284950200- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284952265- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software
+</A><A NAME="199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284952608- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284953958- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Project logo contest definitely needs a dedicated page
+</A><A NAME="201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284960408- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Willing to offer help
+</A><A NAME="203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284961237- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Community forum
+</A><A NAME="205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284962218- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Codename suggestion
+</A><A NAME="206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284963988- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000216.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284963988-01284967338- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000222.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Fr&#233;d&#233;ric GOMEZ - MG Consultants
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284963988-01284970959- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000224.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florent Monnier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284964025- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000211.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284964388- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000210.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hello
+</A><A NAME="210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Miguel
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284964498- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000212.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284964648- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000213.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284964648-01284965441- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000217.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284964648-01284965441-01284965781- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000219.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284964648-01284965441-01284965781-01284973357- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000225.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284964648-01284965441-01284965781-01284973357-01284990965- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284964648-01284965441-01284965781-01284973357-01284990965-01284995815- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284965001- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000215.html">[Mageia-discuss] Which is the governing structure?
+</A><A NAME="215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Miguel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284965001-01284966246- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000220.html">[Mageia-discuss] Which is the governing structure?
+</A><A NAME="220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284965230- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000218.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions
+</A><A NAME="218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284966892- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000221.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284966892-01284975843- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000232.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>James Kerr
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000235.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000240.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000243.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980748- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000246.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980748-01284981714- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000250.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980748-01284981714-01284982089- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000253.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980748-01284981714-01284982089-01284983092- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000261.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980748-01284981714-01284982391- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000257.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980748-01284981714-01284982391-01284982780- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000258.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980748-01284981714-01284982391-01284983230- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000262.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980748-01284981714-01284982391-01284983230-01284984213- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000267.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980748-01284981714-01284982391-01284983230-01284987720- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980826- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000247.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980872- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000248.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980872-01284981631- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000249.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980872-01284981631-01284982658- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000263.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980872-01284982043- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000252.html">[Mageia-discuss] Repositories: Was [UK user community?]
+</A><A NAME="252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980872-01284982043-01284982359- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Repositories: Was [UK user community?]
+</A><A NAME="256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284977773-01284978488-01284979981-01284980872-01284992135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>SinnerBOFH
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01284966892-01284975843-01284977871- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000236.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01284966892-01284975843-01284978077- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000237.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284978077-01284978254- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000238.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284966892-01284975843-01284978077-01284982912- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000260.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284966892-01284982873- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000266.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284966892-01284982873-01284991887- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-discuss] UK user community?
+</A><A NAME="293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284968791- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000223.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+</A><A NAME="223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284973776- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>franck
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284973776-01284974828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000228.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284973776-01284974828-01284979481- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000241.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284974084- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000226.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>franck
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284974084-01284975171- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000230.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>gejo
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01284974084-01284980398- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000245.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284974994- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000229.html">[Mageia-discuss] Taiwan user community and zh-TW l10n
+</A><A NAME="229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284974994-01285007930- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Taiwan user community and zh-TW l10n
+</A><A NAME="312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284975476- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000231.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pacho Ramos
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284977207- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000233.html">[Mageia-discuss] Announcement translati&#305;n and willing to help
+</A><A NAME="233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284977207-01284978092- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001279.html">[Mageia-discuss] Announcement translati&#305;n and willing to help
+</A><A NAME="1279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284977538- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anshul Jain
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284977538-01285008042- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-discuss] Futur Mirror manangement for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284979655- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000244.html">[Mageia-discuss] Should Mageia have linux-libre kernel? Yes!
+</A><A NAME="244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gergely L&#243;nyai
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284981725- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia UAE
+</A><A NAME="251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284982092- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284982337- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Repositories: Was [UK user community?]
+</A><A NAME="255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284983646- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000264.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284983646-01284984159- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000268.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284983646-01284984159-01284985889- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284983646-01284984159-01284985889-01284988242- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284983646-01284984159-01284985889-01284988242-01284988453- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284983646-01284984159-01284985889-01284988242-01284988453-01284989581- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01284983646-01284984159-01284992697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fr&#233;d&#233;ric CUIF
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284983646-01284984328- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000269.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284983646-01284984328-01284987456- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284983646-01284984328-01284987456-01285012030- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-discuss] Criticism
+</A><A NAME="316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284983646-01284984328-01284987456-01285012030-01285016888- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-discuss] Criticism
+</A><A NAME="322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Loewe
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01284983646-01284984328-01284987456-01285013744- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please
+</A><A NAME="317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284984157- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000270.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jean-Christophe Monnard
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284984157-01284985845- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000274.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284984157-01284985845-01284986245- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000276.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284984157-01284985845-01284986245-01284986980- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000278.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284984157-01284987686- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-discuss] bonjour
+</A><A NAME="281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>jbj.mdv
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284984877- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000271.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yves-Ga&#235;l Ch&#233;ny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284984877-01284984924- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000272.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sadiq Saif
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284984877-01284984924-01284985072- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000273.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01284984877-01284984924-01284985072-01284986214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284984877-01284986532- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000277.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284984877-01284986532-01285014557- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Redy Rodriguez
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01284984877-01284987083- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000279.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dark Charlot
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01284984877-01284987083-01284988739- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
+</A><A NAME="286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284989000- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-discuss] Registering domains
+</A><A NAME="287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284989000-01284990944- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-discuss] Registering domains
+</A><A NAME="290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01284990939- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-discuss] finalising my mageia branding logo look
+</A><A NAME="289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284991258- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Offering Help
+</A><A NAME="292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Loewe
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284998105- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001280.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo.
+</A><A NAME="1280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01284999910- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01284999910-01285000698- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-discuss] https at URL leads to a different page
+</A><A NAME="298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285000257- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285000257-01285002785- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000301.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01285000257-01285003134- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285000257-01285003134-01285003972- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285000257-01285003134-01285003972-01285005067- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285000257-01285003487- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285000257-01285003487-01285003415- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Basilio Rosa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285000257-01285003487-01285003415-01285003561- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285000257-01285003487-01285003415-01285003561-01285004636- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285000257-01285003487-01285003415-01285003561-01285004636-01285008089- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285000257-01285003487-01285003415-01285003561-01285004885- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
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+<PRE>Le lundi 20 septembre 2010 &#224; 23:47 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op maandag 20 september 2010 21:42:39 schreef Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Of course, this explanation is less sexy than the other one about &quot;this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; come from greek&quot;, which are true too, but I want to highlight that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; choosing a name is neither easy or as fun as it sound. And that we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; didn't start by saying &quot;wow, greek is a cool language, let's find a word
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; from it&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> one more question:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is it true that PLF is also behind mageia (ie: will PLF packages be in mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i> cause of this being an international distribution, effectively?)
+</I>
+We are not yet at that level of details, afaik, and as I said, we are
+quite busy with others stuff.
+
+My own opinion is that the issue that lead to the creation of PLF would
+still apply.
+
+Not to mention that PLF has a cool logo, and that's a good reason to not
+drop it :p
+
+But you should maybe ask to PLF directly on PLF discuss ?
+--
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+<PRE>Op dinsdag 21 september 2010 00:11:43 schreef Michael Scherer:
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 20 septembre 2010 &#224; 23:47 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op maandag 20 september 2010 21:42:39 schreef Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Of course, this explanation is less sexy than the other one about &quot;this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; come from greek&quot;, which are true too, but I want to highlight that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; choosing a name is neither easy or as fun as it sound. And that we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; didn't start by saying &quot;wow, greek is a cool language, let's find a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; word from it&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; one more question:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is it true that PLF is also behind mageia (ie: will PLF packages be in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia? cause of this being an international distribution, effectively?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are not yet at that level of details, afaik, and as I said, we are
+</I>&gt;<i> quite busy with others stuff.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My own opinion is that the issue that lead to the creation of PLF would
+</I>&gt;<i> still apply.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not to mention that PLF has a cool logo, and that's a good reason to not
+</I>&gt;<i> drop it :p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But you should maybe ask to PLF directly on PLF discuss ?
+</I>
+my main interest is to find out if it's true that PLF is involved in creating
+mageia or not. if yes or no PLF is in mageia directly is only a side question.
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+ <B>Lawrence A Fossi</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Google%2C%20yahoo%2C%20Hotmail%20and%20Flickr%20accounts&In-Reply-To=%3C1802248158.1112951.1285024505671.JavaMail.root%40sz0036a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net%3E"
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+<PRE>It's inevitable that Mageia would be claimed on some accounts.. a quick Google turned up 1 US business 1 guy on Twitter
+and a second with JA-Mageia..all on page 1 of the search
+<A HREF="http://sites.google.com/site/johnwellssr/home">http://sites.google.com/site/johnwellssr/home</A>
+<A HREF="http://twitter.com/mageia">http://twitter.com/mageia</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.joomlart.com/joomla/templates/ja-mageia">http://www.joomlart.com/joomla/templates/ja-mageia</A>
+----- Original Message -----
+From: &quot;Wolfgang Bornath&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+To: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:46:31 AM
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+
+2010/9/19 SinnerBOFH &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Mageia accounts were already taken :(
+</I>
+By whom? maybe it's a member of this crowd who will contribute, so he
+had the same idea, just a bit earlier?
+_______________________________________________
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+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
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+ from Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; who wrote:
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+&gt;<i> My own opinion is that the issue that lead to the creation of PLF would
+</I>&gt;<i> still apply.
+</I>
+One thing we should try if possible is to have is support in Easy Urpmi
+( <A HREF="http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/">http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/</A> ) as it is a great help when setting up a system.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ Which is worse: ignorance or apathy ?
+ Who knows ? Who cares ?
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
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+<PRE>* Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Monday 20 September 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive
+</I>&gt;<i> from Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; who wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My own opinion is that the issue that lead to the creation of PLF would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; still apply.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One thing we should try if possible is to have is support in Easy Urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> ( <A HREF="http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/">http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/</A> ) as it is a great help when setting up a system.
+</I>
+Must be seen with easyurpmi team. Easyurpmi is an independant project.
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Machado</B>
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+Thus, I think that Xavante is the best option, not only by tribute - what is necessary - but because is a new and unexpected concept.
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+Xavante is a indian tribe; indians are people with magic inside them; They cure yourselves with herbs and teas, make rain dances and believe in deities that represents the pure magic of man and Nature's contact.
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+ <B>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior</B>
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+This is a good idea.
+
+Adjamilton J&#250;nior
+Federal Institute of Education, Science and Technologie of Para&#237;ba
+Brazil
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+Em 20 de setembro de 2010 21:24, Andr&#233; Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>&gt;escreveu:
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+&gt;<i> Well, I think what Mageia codename should be related to magic. Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> will continue existing, so, distro is not reborning; then, makes no sens
+</I>&gt;<i> call it Lazarus or Fenix; also, is very cliche call it Merlin or other
+</I>&gt;<i> directly related magic stuff.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thus, I think that Xavante is the best option, not only by tribute - what
+</I>&gt;<i> is necessary - but because is a new and unexpected concept.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Xavante is a indian tribe; indians are people with magic inside them; They
+</I>&gt;<i> cure yourselves with herbs and teas, make rain dances and believe in deities
+</I>&gt;<i> that represents the pure magic of man and Nature's contact.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I sincerely hope that, once forum is runing, there is a pool system in
+</I>&gt;<i> that we can vote in all given options.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reguards.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> I'm agree with this opinion as i wrote a minute ago to the UK user
+</I>&gt;<i> community? subject. But as you know we, therd party packagers are not
+</I>&gt;<i> well experienced packagers. An official packager should review our
+</I>&gt;<i> packages and aasist to correct issues. So, we can learn more and
+</I>&gt;<i> provide better packages. As a result users can reach their needs from
+</I>&gt;<i> official contrib or communtiy repo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">burger at webgis.de</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I totally agree with Thomas,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as some may know, the German community has their own repo as well. The
+</I>&gt;<i> reason
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; was the somehow difficult procedure in contributing packages to Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But: we have decided to contribute to mageia directly in the future. Like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thomas said, many Third-party repos make it difficult for the users to
+</I>&gt;<i> find and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; install packages. It also leads to dependency problems sometimes, when
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages from different third party repos collide.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And even if there are packages which are only of use to people with some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; language, nationality and so on. Why shouldn't they be in the official
+</I>&gt;<i> repos.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; E.g. I don't speak any asian language but the tools for those languages
+</I>&gt;<i> did
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; never disturb me. They were just there in the repo without ane
+</I>&gt;<i> sideeffects to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; my system...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le 20/09/2010 12:53, atilla ontas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Also local communities can package software just for their needs and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; won't placed in official repos. Like we providing Zekr (Quran study
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; tool) and zemberek (Turkish spell-checking tool) on Mandriva Turkiye
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; repository (MVT)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Just a not : I am against this form of packaging only for a group of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; people. Anywhere in the world someone who wants to study a language,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; turkish for xample, may need it. Currently we need to focus all our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; efforts in Mageias official repositories and avoid as much as possible
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; having too many different repositories. Programs are usually not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; territory dependant.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; That's out of subject anyway, but I wanted to tell clearly my opinion on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; this. Remember : Mageia takes back the same spirit of easy to use and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; simplicity that comes form Mandriva and Mandrake. Fiddling with many
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; extra repositories is then what we do not want to hear about. This would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; even force people to be members or to visit the website to add the repo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; and then access te program they were looking for. So, that's just no to
+</I>&gt;<i> me.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mit freundlichen Gr&#252;&#223;en
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Oliver Burger
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">burger at webgis.de</A>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sep 20, 2010, at 7:07 AM, Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 20/09/2010 12:53, atilla ontas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Also local communities can package software just for their needs and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; won't placed in official repos. Like we providing Zekr (Quran study
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; tool) and zemberek (Turkish spell-checking tool) on Mandriva Turkiye
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; repository (MVT)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just a not : I am against this form of packaging only for a group of
+</I>&gt;<i> people. Anywhere in the world someone who wants to study a language, turkish
+</I>&gt;<i> for xample, may need it. Currently we need to focus all our efforts in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageias official repositories and avoid as much as possible having too many
+</I>&gt;<i> different repositories. Programs are usually not territory dependant.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's out of subject anyway, but I wanted to tell clearly my opinion on
+</I>&gt;<i> this. Remember : Mageia takes back the same spirit of easy to use and
+</I>&gt;<i> simplicity that comes form Mandriva and Mandrake. Fiddling with many extra
+</I>&gt;<i> repositories is then what we do not want to hear about. This would even
+</I>&gt;<i> force people to be members or to visit the website to add the repo and then
+</I>&gt;<i> access te program they were looking for. So, that's just no to me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The easiest it is for the user, the better.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now with globalization, you can find anywhere on the world someone from
+</I>&gt;<i> anywhere of the world.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As an ex-pat I know what I'm talking about.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Salut,
+</I>&gt;<i> Sinner
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I> Just a quick heads up. There is a Mageia-uk irc channel.
+i don't think having lots of country specific repos is a good idea, lets
+have all the packages available to every one, if they have a clear
+description about them then people can make up there own mind whether to
+install say a french tv guide on an english located pc, as long as we can
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+My question is quite simple.
+In the list of contributors, we can see a lot of former mandriva employee name.
+They were employed by mandriva(or edge it) to create a distro. Now, they have no job, so a lot of time, and they would like to continue this adventure. I can understand it.
+I have some questions about that :
+ - Is it legal for you, have you some right to work in the same field than your previous employer ? Lot of contract have a clause to forbid that. It would be a very bad news if mandriva asked some question about that and stop the project.
+ - Have you some financial plan to survive. Now you have maybe some money from government, and again a lot of time, but if you find a job, how many time would you take for the distro.
+ - People seems to think that Mageia would never have employees, is that true ? Could you imagine to create a structure and month after month, hire the main contributors to prevent Mageia to be out of developer soon ?
+ - You seems to think that it will be a free distro, but do you plan for some cashable services ? If a company ask your support, would you refuse and ask them to go to mandriva, or do you want to create something for that ?
+
+Are you really motivated to do the same job than before, but without being paid ? Are you ok to give this work for free to your previous employer(it's GPL...)
+
+My questions are most about money, I know that is a subject taht people love to forget, but I'm sure that it's a very important part when you want to create a budget, and I didn't get any information about that.
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+By the way, a forum would be very nice to prevent our mailbox from quick die :-)
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+
+--- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">darkfoss at comcast.net</A> escreveu:
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+From: Lawrence A Fossi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">darkfoss at comcast.net</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
+Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:15:05 +0000 (UTC)
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+It's inevitable that Mageia would be claimed on some accounts.. a quick Google turned up 1 US business 1 guy on Twitter
+and a second with JA-Mageia..all on page 1 of the search
+<A HREF="http://sites.google.com/site/johnwellssr/home">http://sites.google.com/site/johnwellssr/home</A>
+<A HREF="http://twitter.com/mageia">http://twitter.com/mageia</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.joomlart.com/joomla/templates/ja-mageia">http://www.joomlart.com/joomla/templates/ja-mageia</A>
+----- Original Message -----
+From: &quot;Wolfgang Bornath&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+To: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:46:31 AM
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts
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+2010/9/19 SinnerBOFH &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Mageia accounts were already taken :(
+</I>
+By whom? maybe it's a member of this crowd who will contribute, so he
+had the same idea, just a bit earlier?
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+&gt;<i> Hello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My question is quite simple.
+</I>&gt;<i> In the list of contributors, we can see a lot of former mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> employee name.
+</I>&gt;<i> They were employed by mandriva(or edge it) to create a distro.
+</I>
+No mostly edge-it. Mandriva people are still employed.
+
+&gt;<i> Now, they have no job, so a lot of time, and they would like to
+</I>&gt;<i> continue this adventure. I can understand it.
+</I>&gt;<i> I have some questions about that :
+</I>&gt;<i> - Is it legal for you, have you some right to work in the same field
+</I>&gt;<i> than your previous employer ? Lot of contract have a clause to forbid
+</I>&gt;<i> that. It would be a very bad news if mandriva asked some question
+</I>&gt;<i> about that and stop the project.
+</I>
+They cannot prevent this. In order to have a non-concurrence clause in
+France, it need to be
+
+1) limited in time
+2) limited in scope
+3) limited geographically
+4) paid
+5) and realistic
+
+Ie, you can tell &quot;I give you 30% of your pay each month so you do not do
+work in the firewalling domain for 1 year in paris, Lyon and
+Lille&quot; ( real clause that was offered to a friend of mine ).
+
+You cannot say &quot;I give you 1 euro so you never work in computer field
+for the rest of your life anywhere on the planet&quot;.
+
+Oh, and of course, since Edge-it disappeared, there is no one to pay
+anything to forbid anything, hence no issue with such clause.
+
+&gt;<i> - Have you some financial plan to survive. Now you have maybe some
+</I>&gt;<i> money from government, and again a lot of time, but if you find a job,
+</I>&gt;<i> how many time would you take for the distro.
+</I>
+Well, I cannot tell the details for them, but they do have plans, yes.
+And for the non ex-employee, I guess most of us have regular jobs.
+
+&gt;<i> - People seems to think that Mageia would never have employees, is
+</I>&gt;<i> that true ? Could you imagine to create a structure and month after
+</I>&gt;<i> month, hire the main contributors to prevent Mageia to be out of
+</I>&gt;<i> developer soon ?
+</I>
+Technically, a association can have employees. Bigger one does, for
+administrative task first, and various task later. Regarding the hiring
+of main developers, I must remind that most of them already have a job
+( ie, all of the external mandriva contributers ).
+
+What a french association cannot be is for profit ( except in
+Alsace/Moselle, where the law is different, seek 'association loi 1910'
+on the web if you speak french and if you are interested ).
+
+&gt;<i> - You seems to think that it will be a free distro, but do you plan
+</I>&gt;<i> for some cashable services ? If a company ask your support, would you
+</I>&gt;<i> refuse and ask them to go to mandriva, or do you want to create
+</I>&gt;<i> something for that ?
+</I>
+As I said, there is various plans in the pipe, and yes, the distro will
+be free.
+
+However, if a company ask for support, there is way that do not involve
+anything , with stuff like &quot;auto entreprenariat&quot;, or &quot;portage
+salarial&quot; ( I do not know the details, you should consult a specialist
+or do some research on the net if you wish to have more information,
+this is the limit of my knowledge )
+
+&gt;<i> Are you really motivated to do the same job than before, but without
+</I>&gt;<i> being paid ? Are you ok to give this work for free to your previous
+</I>&gt;<i> employer(it's GPL...)
+</I>
+Again, I cannot answer for them, bu given the fact we usually give it
+for free for people that may have moral values not really aligned with
+ours, I think the question is already answered since the first day we
+started to do free software.
+
+&gt;<i> My questions are most about money, I know that is a subject that
+</I>&gt;<i> people love to forget, but I'm sure that it's a very important part
+</I>&gt;<i> when you want to create a budget, and I didn't get any information
+</I>&gt;<i> about that.
+</I>
+Well, maybe because the announce was like 3 days ago ?
+
+&gt;<i> By the way, a forum would be very nice to prevent our mailbox from
+</I>&gt;<i> quick die :-)
+</I>
+Well, a forum will just make zarb.org servers die ( where the website is
+hosted at the moment, and where I am member of the admin team ), so do
+not take this personally, but I prefer for the moment to make hotmail
+suffer more than zarb.org :)
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+spam cleaning, upgrade of the software when needed, watching it grow ),
+and there is more urgent matter like having something to discuss before
+having somewhere to discuss. We didn't really anticipated the rush of
+people on the ml so we are trying to manage this properly while not
+sacrificing proper hygiene and sleeping habits.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My question is quite simple.
+</I>&gt;<i> In the list of contributors, we can see a lot of former mandriva employee
+</I>&gt;<i> name.
+</I>&gt;<i> They were employed by mandriva(or edge it) to create a distro. Now, they
+</I>&gt;<i> have no job, so a lot of time, and they would like to continue this
+</I>&gt;<i> adventure. I can understand it.
+</I>&gt;<i> I have some questions about that :
+</I>&gt;<i> - Is it legal for you, have you some right to work in the same field than
+</I>&gt;<i> your previous employer ? Lot of contract have a clause to forbid that. It
+</I>&gt;<i> would be a very bad news if mandriva asked some question about that and
+</I>&gt;<i> stop the project.
+</I>&gt;<i> - Have you some financial plan to survive. Now you have maybe some money
+</I>&gt;<i> from government, and again a lot of time, but if you find a job, how many
+</I>&gt;<i> time would you take for the distro.
+</I>&gt;<i> - People seems to think that Mageia would never have employees, is that
+</I>&gt;<i> true ? Could you imagine to create a structure and month after month,
+</I>&gt;<i> hire the main contributors to prevent Mageia to be out of developer soon
+</I>&gt;<i> ?
+</I>&gt;<i> - You seems to think that it will be a free distro, but do you plan for
+</I>&gt;<i> some cashable services ? If a company ask your support, would you refuse
+</I>&gt;<i> and ask them to go to mandriva, or do you want to create something for
+</I>&gt;<i> that ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are you really motivated to do the same job than before, but without being
+</I>&gt;<i> paid ? Are you ok to give this work for free to your previous
+</I>&gt;<i> employer(it's GPL...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My questions are most about money, I know that is a subject that people
+</I>&gt;<i> love to forget, but I'm sure that it's a very important part when you want
+</I>&gt;<i> to create a budget, and I didn't get any information about that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> By the way, a forum would be very nice to prevent our mailbox from quick
+</I>&gt;<i> die :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you
+</I>&gt;<i> Pierre
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>2010/9/21 Olivier Thauvin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> * Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Monday 20 September 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;from Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; who wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; My own opinion is that the issue that lead to the creation of PLF would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; still apply.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One thing we should try if possible is to have is support in Easy Urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( <A HREF="http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/">http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/</A> ) as it is a great help when setting up a system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Must be seen with easyurpmi team. Easyurpmi is an independant project.
+</I>
+Once Mageia has a repo I am sure we can integrate that in smarturpmi:
+<A HREF="http://smarturpmi.mandrivauser.de">http://smarturpmi.mandrivauser.de</A> (maybe then smarturpmi.mageia.de)
+
+For those who don't know it: Smarturpmi is a web application which
+caters to the same needs as EasyUrpmi, with the advantage that each
+mirror displays the timestamp of latest sync and availability of all
+mirrors is checked 3 times a day. It's available in 15 languages (even
+including English!) and a GPL app, currently running on our webserver
+but available for everybody to install it on his webserver.
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+&gt;<i> I'm twisting some arms, so a full Mageia mirror in Spain is almost a certainity.
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+I don't have to twist arms, I will of course run a Mageia mirror when
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+I would make something like this:
+<A HREF="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Applications-internet.svg,">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Applications-internet.svg,</A> having
+little stars connected instead of dots in places of major cities on the map
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+Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> (something similar happened when Mandriva Linux was first kickstarted
+</I>&gt;<i> by its founders, you think they had a forum/wiki/bugzilla from day 1?
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't..)
+</I>
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+ <B>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/20 Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at mandriva.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 &#224; 16:31 +0200, Per &#216;yvind Karlsen a
+</I>&gt;<i> &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My primary interest lies with Mandriva Linux, not Mandriva, not Edge-IT.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Critics and noise leading to this pretty much all revolves around
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Edge-IT, not cooker.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While I do not agree with Per Oyvind reasoning, nor do I want to point
+</I>&gt;<i> some lack of transparency on previous foundation attempts, I must tell
+</I>Well, as you don't want to point out what you point out, I feel like
+that I'd actually want to point out some things concerning it and
+provide an explanation and some background on the matter as I think it
+deserves such, and as I consider the topic being of public interest to
+our community.
+
+Anyways, the &quot;lack of transparency&quot; was rather discression for the
+mutual interest of all parties before there was anything to announce
+and try avoiding any potential PR disasters.
+
+In retrospect, sure, this might've been a mistake, but the intentions
+were rather sincere and the efforts weren't really considered as a
+threath or a protest towards any specific parties, but did rather gain
+favorable attention from everyone in community and almost everyone
+within company, from the CEO and down.
+My reluctancy on trying to push this much harder and in public were
+mostly due to stress (and resulting moodiness;) and lack of energy to
+try push something which got dismissed when trying to organize the
+failed meeting at LSM 2007, and pretty much at every slight attempt at
+raising it again later, with even responses and views of it no longer
+being necessary or relevant with such as the creation of the Assembly
+etc..
+Why you didn't pay any attention to nor have any interest in any of
+these previous efforts and the work invested beats me, it would've
+been a much better alternative to all parties without the controversy
+and increased bad feelings coming out of this.. :/
+
+Oh well, regardless of past mistakes and any incoherency on my part,
+motivations of yours or anything, I still think the resources gathered
+and all the time and work invested could be of use to both parties,
+and the rationale for previous discression being way beyond moot now,
+so I've removed the previous need for registration (that were open to
+everyone btw.) on the wiki with most of the content and post it now
+for the first time in public for everyone, in hope for it to be of use
+to either Mageia, Mandriva, or perhaps even both, at least hoping for
+not all of it being wasted:
+<A HREF="http://foundation.zarb.org">http://foundation.zarb.org</A>
+
+&gt;<i> I am still hoping to see both side of the divide to work together as
+</I>&gt;<i> much as possible and I do not see any reason to not have it.
+</I>As do I.
+
+I still have a hope for seeing this vision being realised, and
+certainly would very much prefer mutual collaboration around this than
+a fork splitting the community and company, rather than uniting it.
+I'd certainly have great interest (together with others which even
+expressed their interest in funding it, as brought up when I tried
+reviving this again earlier this year) in investing efforts into this
+again, but certainly it would depend on the actual interest in this
+from the people within Mandriva the company, the Mandriva Linux
+community, the Mageia community, and also from our friends at Unity
+Linux, PCLinuxOS and any other familiars which share a common interest
+in sharing goals, benefits and efforts.
+
+So I'd like to request the input from all parties on this, what
+interest would it be to you? What is preventing your interest in it?
+What would be required to gain your interest in it?
+
+Well, I see this as my last opportunity for trying to push this again
+trying to preserve our community, leave our differences aside and try
+one final time to attempt uniting communities that would be stronger
+and healthier working together, allowing diversity rather than against
+eachother, fueling controversy and causing further fragmentation in
+our ecosystem.
+
+If nothing else, I did try at least.. ;)
+
+Oh well, I fear that this I with this post and the proposition might
+just be flamed to death no matter how sane and justified I may find
+this that others might consider a flamebait pipedream, or perhaps just
+ignored which wouldn't surprise me that much either, but as there
+might just be slight chance of constructive discussion taking place
+and something of use to someone rather than a new round with
+distribution of blame and angry voices, I take my chances in the
+spirit of the greater good for everyone. :o)
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+With the very best intentions,
+Per &#216;yvind,
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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+development version of Mageia.
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+Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+another distribution to avoid mistake.
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+First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
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+Second idea: mathetria, mean a disciple (female), not sure the word will
+please to anyone.
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+Your ideas are welcome.
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+I'll see according results how to choose one.
+
+Regards.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;<i> development version of Mageia.
+</I>
+[...]
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+&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
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+<PRE>Le 21/09/2010 09:41, Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;<i> development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+</I>&gt;<i> insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+</I>&gt;<i> another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>i like the idea of a cauldron to cook magic ^^
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+<PRE>Olivier Thauvin skrev 21.9.2010 10:41:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;<i> development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+</I>&gt;<i> insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+</I>&gt;<i> another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Second idea: mathetria, mean a disciple (female), not sure the word will
+</I>&gt;<i> please to anyone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Your ideas are welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll see according results how to choose one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+3. brewery
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+&gt;<i> Le 21/09/2010 09:41, Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i like the idea of a cauldron to cook magic ^^
+</I>
+Yes, definitely! Let's put another frog's heart and bat's wing in and
+stir it twice at second full moon while singing &quot;Mageia, Mageia,
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+pomgest &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pomgest at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> &quot;Cauldron&quot; is nice. It was my first thought.
+</I>
+ It's so Nice :)
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+ The name in grec is &quot;&#954;&#959;&#965;&#950;&#943;&#957;&#945;&quot; i think, it's not bad too.
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i like the idea of a cauldron to cook magic ^^
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+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, definitely! Let's put another frog's heart and bat's wing in and
+</I>&gt;<i> stir it twice at second full moon while singing &quot;Mageia, Mageia,
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+</I>I like the scene! And cauldron does fit in the meaning of mageia :)
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+Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 07:26:39, Per &#216;yvind Karlsen a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &gt; I am still hoping to see both side of the divide to work together as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; much as possible and I do not see any reason to not have it.
+</I>&gt;<i> As do I.
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+I really do hope too that efforts can be common at a certain level between mageia and Mandriva Linux.
+
+To former Edge-IT employees : I do not know your feelings about it but I do pray you to consider this option regardless of what feelings you may have. Something that would benefit both parties without putting too much constraint on mageia's direction. I'm 100% behing Mageia but I still like Mandriva Linux too.
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+To the Mandriva Company (I didn't reply to Arnaud Laprevote in CC but hope he reads this), please consider this option. There may be several suitable models benefiting all parties.
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+<PRE>Le 21/09/2010 09:56, Kira a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &#22312; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:51:47 +0800, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i like the idea of a cauldron to cook magic ^^
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, definitely! Let's put another frog's heart and bat's wing in and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stir it twice at second full moon while singing &quot;Mageia, Mageia,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia&quot; in a husky voice!
+</I>&gt;<i> I like the scene! And cauldron does fit in the meaning of mageia :)
+</I>
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+<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 Ma&#226;t &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 21/09/2010 09:41, Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>
+Well, Cauldron suits me well
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+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i like the idea of a cauldron to cook magic ^^
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, definitely! Let's put another frog's heart and bat's wing in and
+</I>&gt;<i> stir it twice at second full moon while singing &quot;Mageia, Mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia&quot; in a husky voice!
+</I>
+Wobo !!! Are you under Mageia' spell ?? i would probably better leave before
+being bewitched like you
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+/me leaves shouting &quot;Mageia, Mageia, Mageia&quot; in a husky voice!&quot; :D
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+<PRE>2010/9/21 Miguel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cullero at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> My vote for &quot;cauldron&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> motitos
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, to stay logical about naming, and since mageia comes from greek, why
+</I>not referring entirely to it:
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+We could use the greek mythology for names (including former mandriva
+control center and so on), this would bring a little of &quot;culture&quot; in our
+bench lab, and would probably be appreciated by all, see:
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+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_mythology">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_mythology</A>
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+So instead of the cauldron, I would go for Hephaestus:
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+&quot; He was the god of technology &lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology</A>&gt;,
+blacksmiths &lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksmith">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksmith</A>&gt;,
+craftsmen&lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craft">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craft</A>&gt;,
+artisans &lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artisan">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artisan</A>&gt;,
+sculptors&lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sculpture">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sculpture</A>&gt;,
+metals &lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal</A>&gt;,
+metallurgy&lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy</A>&gt;,
+fire &lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_%28classical_element%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_%28classical_element%29</A>&gt; and
+volcanoes &lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcano">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcano</A>&gt;&quot;
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+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus</A>
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+WDYT?
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+'Mageia Pot' sound good too, isn't it?
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+Bye.
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+On Martes, 21 de Septiembre de 2010 10:07:17 Olivier M&#233;jean escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2010/9/21 Ma&#226;t &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le 21/09/2010 09:41, Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; an insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; refer to another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, Cauldron suits me well
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; i like the idea of a cauldron to cook magic ^^
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, definitely! Let's put another frog's heart and bat's wing in and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; stir it twice at second full moon while singing &quot;Mageia, Mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia&quot; in a husky voice!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wobo !!! Are you under Mageia' spell ?? i would probably better leave
+</I>&gt;<i> before being bewitched like you
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /me leaves shouting &quot;Mageia, Mageia, Mageia&quot; in a husky voice!&quot; :D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier
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+<PRE>Le 21/09/2010 09:41, Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;<i> development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+</I>&gt;<i> insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+</I>&gt;<i> another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Second idea: mathetria, mean a disciple (female), not sure the word will
+</I>&gt;<i> please to anyone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>/put is her feminist cloak
+And why female must the disciple ?
+/end of feminist time
+&gt;<i> Your ideas are welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll see according results how to choose one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>More seriously the cauldron idea is good. I love it.
+But there is only one point : sourcemage, a linux-distro, is already
+using the name for the build-iso system if I've read the site properly
+<A HREF="http://www.sourcemage.org/Cauldron/Main">http://www.sourcemage.org/Cauldron/Main</A>
+
+I think it wouldn't be a problem. We are all magician of linux
+
+My 2 cents
+
+Jehane
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+--
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+Mandriva User
+Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate)
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+&gt;<i> So instead of the cauldron, I would go for Hephaestus:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot; He was the god of technology, blacksmiths, craftsmen, artisans, sculptors,
+</I>&gt;<i> metals, metallurgy, fire and volcanoes&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Stef
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Guys, let's keep it pronounceable and easy to remember, shall we? It
+will probably wind up in the names of mailing lists and web page and
+such and name that nobody can spell/pronounce correctly is no good.
+Cooker was good from this point of view.
+
+Things like &quot;mathetria&quot; or &quot;hephaestus&quot; are not.
+
+For me &quot;cooker&quot; was somehow always the person doing the cooking (the
+&quot;cook&quot;), not so much the pot (as in &quot;pressure cooker&quot;). However,
+keeping with the &quot;thing&quot; approach - why not &quot;foundry&quot;, &quot;lab&quot;, or
+&quot;crucible&quot;? Even &quot;pot&quot; would work.
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> For me &quot;cooker&quot; was somehow always the person doing the cooking (the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;cook&quot;), not so much the pot (as in &quot;pressure cooker&quot;). However,
+</I>&gt;<i> keeping with the &quot;thing&quot; approach - why not &quot;foundry&quot;, &quot;lab&quot;, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;crucible&quot;? Even &quot;pot&quot; would work.
+</I>
+What about Pan ?
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+Pan- as a prefix (Greek &#960;&#8118;&#957;, pan, &quot;all,&quot; &quot;of everything,&quot; &quot;involving
+all members&quot; of a group)
+Pan (god), a god of nature in Greek mythology
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+<PRE>Le 2010-09-21 04:28, Jan Ciger a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">steletch at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So instead of the cauldron, I would go for Hephaestus:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot; He was the god of technology, blacksmiths, craftsmen, artisans, sculptors,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> metals, metallurgy, fire and volcanoes&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Stef
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Guys, let's keep it pronounceable and easy to remember, shall we? It
+</I>&gt;<i> will probably wind up in the names of mailing lists and web page and
+</I>&gt;<i> such and name that nobody can spell/pronounce correctly is no good.
+</I>&gt;<i> Cooker was good from this point of view.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Things like &quot;mathetria&quot; or &quot;hephaestus&quot; are not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For me &quot;cooker&quot; was somehow always the person doing the cooking (the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;cook&quot;), not so much the pot (as in &quot;pressure cooker&quot;). However,
+</I>&gt;<i> keeping with the &quot;thing&quot; approach - why not &quot;foundry&quot;, &quot;lab&quot;, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;crucible&quot;? Even &quot;pot&quot; would work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> J.
+</I>Mystique ??
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+Marc
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+<PRE>Jan Ciger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jan.ciger at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+&gt;<i> Guys, let's keep it pronounceable and easy to remember, shall we? It
+</I>&gt;<i> will probably wind up in the names of mailing lists and web page and
+</I>&gt;<i> such and name that nobody can spell/pronounce correctly is no good.
+</I>&gt;<i> Cooker was good from this point of view.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Things like &quot;mathetria&quot; or &quot;hephaestus&quot; are not.
+</I>I don't think, most people would have problems pronouncing hephaestus, at
+least not in Europe and America, since in the European languages there is some
+greek background to be found.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For me &quot;cooker&quot; was somehow always the person doing the cooking (the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;cook&quot;), not so much the pot (as in &quot;pressure cooker&quot;). However,
+</I>&gt;<i> keeping with the &quot;thing&quot; approach - why not &quot;foundry&quot;, &quot;lab&quot;, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;crucible&quot;? Even &quot;pot&quot; would work.
+</I>I would advice against &quot;pot&quot;, since &quot;Pott&quot; is at least in German the nickname
+for some drug (don't ask me, which exactly,I don't take drugs).
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+&gt;<i> Le 2010-09-21 04:28, Jan Ciger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">steletch at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So instead of the cauldron, I would go for Hephaestus:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot; He was the god of technology, blacksmiths, craftsmen, artisans,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sculptors,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> metals, metallurgy, fire and volcanoes&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Stef
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Guys, let's keep it pronounceable and easy to remember, shall we? It
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will probably wind up in the names of mailing lists and web page and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> such and name that nobody can spell/pronounce correctly is no good.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cooker was good from this point of view.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Things like &quot;mathetria&quot; or &quot;hephaestus&quot; are not.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For me &quot;cooker&quot; was somehow always the person doing the cooking (the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;cook&quot;), not so much the pot (as in &quot;pressure cooker&quot;). However,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> keeping with the &quot;thing&quot; approach - why not &quot;foundry&quot;, &quot;lab&quot;, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;crucible&quot;? Even &quot;pot&quot; would work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> J.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mystique ??
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>
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+Synergy: where all work together
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synergy">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synergy</A>
+
+Agora: The place where everybody discuting
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agora">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agora</A>
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+Delphi: The magical place
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi</A>
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">steletch at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So instead of the cauldron, I would go for Hephaestus:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot; He was the god of technology, blacksmiths, craftsmen, artisans, sculptors,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> metals, metallurgy, fire and volcanoes&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Stef
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Guys, let's keep it pronounceable and easy to remember, shall we? It
+</I>&gt;<i> will probably wind up in the names of mailing lists and web page and
+</I>&gt;<i> such and name that nobody can spell/pronounce correctly is no good.
+</I>&gt;<i> Cooker was good from this point of view.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Things like &quot;mathetria&quot; or &quot;hephaestus&quot; are not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For me &quot;cooker&quot; was somehow always the person doing the cooking (the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;cook&quot;), not so much the pot (as in &quot;pressure cooker&quot;). However,
+</I>&gt;<i> keeping with the &quot;thing&quot; approach - why not &quot;foundry&quot;, &quot;lab&quot;, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;crucible&quot;? Even &quot;pot&quot; would work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> J.
+</I>TheBrew ???
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+Enchantment ???
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+Marc
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+<PRE> Le 2010-09-21 04:43, Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 2010-09-21 04:28, Jan Ciger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">steletch at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So instead of the cauldron, I would go for Hephaestus:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot; He was the god of technology, blacksmiths, craftsmen, artisans,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sculptors,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> metals, metallurgy, fire and volcanoes&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Stef
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Guys, let's keep it pronounceable and easy to remember, shall we? It
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will probably wind up in the names of mailing lists and web page and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> such and name that nobody can spell/pronounce correctly is no good.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cooker was good from this point of view.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Things like &quot;mathetria&quot; or &quot;hephaestus&quot; are not.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For me &quot;cooker&quot; was somehow always the person doing the cooking (the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;cook&quot;), not so much the pot (as in &quot;pressure cooker&quot;). However,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> keeping with the &quot;thing&quot; approach - why not &quot;foundry&quot;, &quot;lab&quot;, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;crucible&quot;? Even &quot;pot&quot; would work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> J.
+</I>&gt;<i> TheBrew ???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Enchantment ???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Infusion (witch's brew) ???
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 Olivier Thauvin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Monday 20 September 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; from Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; who wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; My own opinion is that the issue that lead to the creation of PLF
+</I>&gt;<i> would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; still apply.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; One thing we should try if possible is to have is support in Easy Urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ( <A HREF="http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/">http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/</A> ) as it is a great help when setting up a
+</I>&gt;<i> system.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Must be seen with easyurpmi team. Easyurpmi is an independant project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once Mageia has a repo I am sure we can integrate that in smarturpmi:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://smarturpmi.mandrivauser.de">http://smarturpmi.mandrivauser.de</A> (maybe then smarturpmi.mageia.de)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For those who don't know it: Smarturpmi is a web application which
+</I>&gt;<i> caters to the same needs as EasyUrpmi, with the advantage that each
+</I>&gt;<i> mirror displays the timestamp of latest sync and availability of all
+</I>&gt;<i> mirrors is checked 3 times a day. It's available in 15 languages (even
+</I>&gt;<i> including English!) and a GPL app, currently running on our webserver
+</I>&gt;<i> but available for everybody to install it on his webserver.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Also, you can find at blogdrake.net a little web application called
+dependenciasDRAKE which ables to the user create a list of dependences for
+some package in order to download in another computer. Useful for users with
+a poor net connection. And TunningDRAKE, which creates a &quot;tune up&quot; sequence
+including repo configuration, download some user-high-demanded stuff, etc.
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+Maybe you contact with katnatek at blogdrake (creator of theese tools) to
+share ideas.
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+&gt;<i> Le 2010-09-21 04:43, Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 2010-09-21 04:28, Jan Ciger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 St&#233;phane T&#233;letch&#233;a&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">steletch at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So instead of the cauldron, I would go for Hephaestus:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot; He was the god of technology, blacksmiths, craftsmen, artisans,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sculptors,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> metals, metallurgy, fire and volcanoes&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Stef
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Guys, let's keep it pronounceable and easy to remember, shall we? It
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will probably wind up in the names of mailing lists and web page and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> such and name that nobody can spell/pronounce correctly is no good.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cooker was good from this point of view.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Things like &quot;mathetria&quot; or &quot;hephaestus&quot; are not.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For me &quot;cooker&quot; was somehow always the person doing the cooking (the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;cook&quot;), not so much the pot (as in &quot;pressure cooker&quot;). However,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> keeping with the &quot;thing&quot; approach - why not &quot;foundry&quot;, &quot;lab&quot;, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;crucible&quot;? Even &quot;pot&quot; would work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> J.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> TheBrew ???
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Enchantment ???
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Infusion (witch's brew) ???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Jan Ciger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jan.ciger at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Guys, let's keep it pronounceable and easy to remember, shall we? It
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will probably wind up in the names of mailing lists and web page and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> such and name that nobody can spell/pronounce correctly is no good.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cooker was good from this point of view.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Things like &quot;mathetria&quot; or &quot;hephaestus&quot; are not.
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think, most people would have problems pronouncing hephaestus, at
+</I>&gt;<i> least not in Europe and America, since in the European languages there is some
+</I>&gt;<i> greek background to be found.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Most people in India, AFAIK will have a problem pronouncing
+&quot;mathetria&quot; or &quot;hephaestus&quot;. Sticking to a Greek name which is also
+used in English would be better for users other than in
+Europe/America.
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+Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 10:04:34, Lombard Marianne a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 21/09/2010 09:41, Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Second idea: mathetria, mean a disciple (female), not sure the word will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please to anyone.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> /put is her feminist cloak
+</I>&gt;<i> And why female must the disciple ?
+</I>&gt;<i> /end of feminist time
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Your ideas are welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'll see according results how to choose one.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> More seriously the cauldron idea is good. I love it.
+</I>&gt;<i> But there is only one point : sourcemage, a linux-distro, is already
+</I>&gt;<i> using the name for the build-iso system if I've read the site properly
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.sourcemage.org/Cauldron/Main">http://www.sourcemage.org/Cauldron/Main</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it wouldn't be a problem. We are all magician of linux
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My 2 cents
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jehane
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+We could ask them if they mind, because Cauldron still seems the most obvious choice to me :)
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+</I>&gt;<i> Your ideas are welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+What about bubbling
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+We are talking about development version, just like preparing a mixture in a
+cauldron, light heating and stirring and now look and listen ... &quot;blub ! bluub
+! blubb !&quot; all these bubbles that gently exploded, midly blown up, stir a bit
+more, a bit longer, taste now still hearing &quot;blub ! bluub ! blubb !&quot;, it's
+hot, it taste well due to mild heating, it is ready to serve. That's the
+secret of fully tasting meal, the quality of the bubbling ... it's in your
+mind, listen ! &quot;blub ! bluub ! blubb !&quot;
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+yes, definitively :
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+Bubbling
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+<PRE>On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 00:41 -0700, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
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+<PRE>2010/9/21 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 Per &#216;yvind Karlsen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">peroyvind at mandriva.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh well, I fear that this I with this post and the proposition might
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just be flamed to death no matter how sane and justified I may find
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this that others might consider a flamebait pipedream, or perhaps just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ignored which wouldn't surprise me that much either, but as there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> might just be slight chance of constructive discussion taking place
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and something of use to someone rather than a new round with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distribution of blame and angry voices, I take my chances in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> spirit of the greater good for everyone. :o)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, now here we have our old Per &#216;yvind back, while his person was
+</I>&gt;<i> occupied by a demon lately?
+</I>Nah, he just rather felt the motivation and ideas about organization
+being too different and in contrast, getting in the way of any mutual
+goals and hopes, making them irrelevant. But I'd rather focus on
+bringing these in line and of mutual interest as well now rather than
+criticizing further. ;)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What you propose makes the same sense as it made a couple of months
+</I>&gt;<i> ago, but the circumstances have changed a lot meanwhile. Yoou can't
+</I>&gt;<i> turn back the pages and read again like &quot;Forget what was, here is a
+</I>&gt;<i> born again world&quot;. Now such a system as you suggest will depend not
+</I>&gt;<i> only on technical and economical questions as it was some time ago but
+</I>&gt;<i> also on how much trust you can still have / want to have in the
+</I>&gt;<i> current powers at Mandriva as well as how much motivation the makers
+</I>&gt;<i> of this fork can show to cooperate with a company which has treated
+</I>&gt;<i> them as seen in the previous months. This can only be answered by
+</I>&gt;<i> those people, not by any other.
+</I>Well, you and me both has managed to stay focused on and more care
+around the community part despite getting canned from the company
+since quite a while ago, and even both had our quarrels with some of
+the community as well, independent of our employment, we're still
+around. Personally I'd feel rather hypocritical otherwise as any
+claims and beliefs of mine about Mandriva Linux being a community
+distribution wouldn't be consistent with letting my professional
+relations interfer with community involvement. I'd experience it as if
+I were setting myself and my own personal feelings towards the
+employer in that context, especially if imposing it on the community
+and allow for it to dictate their direction..
+
+I also feel that the claim about all talents and core developers of
+the distribution being quite unfair to those people employed at
+Conectiva, which AFAIK still has more people despite all it's previous
+departures (which to my understanding most of likely wouldn't have
+left either under the current situation where remaining staff chose to
+stay) assigned to work on the community distribution than Edge-IT had
+when liquidated. This kinda suggests a notion of the whole
+distribution and anything of importance revolves around these
+relatively few people at Edge-IT, and that the staff at Conectiva,
+despite being made up of more people, they're less important.. Same
+can be said for community contributors..
+
+So, is this the case? If it's not, then there shouldn't be anything in
+the way of continuing involvement in the community and help improve it
+and setting up a community organization together with and around it,
+after all, we're grownups and should know better than taking out our
+grudges on others..
+I don't really like implying such and feel uncomfortable about raising
+the questions, but there's several details concerning this that raises
+the question on where you're actually acting in the community's best
+interest or not, if your intentions really are, then I urge you to
+reconsider participate in this attempt on establishing a dialogue..
+
+Certainly there can be other technical differences and desires
+motivating the fork as well, making it more desirable for both parties
+and allowing for them different focus and priorities without being at
+conflict, but this doesn't have to mean that a split has to happen in
+the community nor that we cannot work together on creating an
+organization together and collaborate rather than burning bridges and
+creating grounds for controversy and hostility. As the interest and
+desires expressed by Matthew and Unity Linux, and their efforts all
+along has shown, there is room for diversity and different focus while
+at the same time actively working on improving relations and how to
+better complement eachother.
+As there's obviously interest for these things in both the Unity and
+Mandriva community, why wouldn't there be so in the Mageia community?
+If there's not, it wouldn't seem very professional of you, and
+certainly not community friendly nor in the community's best interest,
+would it?
+The official news and strategy announced by Mandriva certainly doesn't
+seem to rumours on bad intentions threatening the community or the
+distribution's future either, so that shouldn't be the concern
+either...
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And of course it depends on how the powers at Mandriva (I do not mean
+</I>&gt;<i> Laprevote but rather his peers) will see such an obligation, which it
+</I>&gt;<i> will be for them. Would they see it as a necessary move, I mean
+</I>&gt;<i> necessary for their plans, not ours? As we do not know their plans we
+</I>&gt;<i> can't even speculate about that. I remember an investor talking to a
+</I>&gt;<i> former member of the Mandriva board, advising him to get rid of the
+</I>&gt;<i> enduser community because they only keep the company away from
+</I>&gt;<i> important work. I don't say that all investors think like that, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it's a good example.
+</I>Then I guess we should be happy that investor is no longer on the board. ;)
+But certainly with regards to the company and related to the changes
+in it's management, verifying their current position on the matter and
+ensure their actual interest would certainly be useful before assuming
+or expecting anything. If we have it and a good dialogue is
+established, then much can be done from there.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, a Mandriva company which really means to carry out what
+</I>&gt;<i> Laprevote mentioned in his motivation &quot;news&quot;, a Mandriva company which
+</I>&gt;<i> starts being communicative and transparent where it is possible, a
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva company which starts doing what it always claimed to be their
+</I>&gt;<i> commitment (&quot;we are committed to the community&quot;), this could be a good
+</I>&gt;<i> partner, /me thinks, day dreaming.
+</I>Yupp, and we can only find out by giving the chance and try contribute
+to this ourself, it's a two-way street after all.. :)
+&gt;<i> But as I wrote: I have no voice in this anyway.
+</I>Yupp, but we can at least hope to influence in the best interest, for
+Mageia I personally didn't really have any real knowledge of before
+after it's announcement, so I'm not expecting to even have much of a
+voice in by myself, yet I'm hoping logic, reason and mutual benefits
+and goals will come out winning in the end.. :)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW: I thought the chief in hugs was Fran&#231;ois Bancilhon? :)
+</I>Well, I'm his secret twin, and as he weren't granted this overwhelming
+responsibility at the first assembly meeting, he has to share the
+duties with me, tipsy or not. ;)
+
+--
+Hugziez&amp;kizzez,
+Your BFF &lt;3
+Per &#216;yvind
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+ <B>Lombard Marianne</B>
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+<PRE>Le 21/09/2010 10:56, Anshul Jain a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Oliver Burger
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Jan Ciger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jan.ciger at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Guys, let's keep it pronounceable and easy to remember, shall we? It
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will probably wind up in the names of mailing lists and web page and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> such and name that nobody can spell/pronounce correctly is no good.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cooker was good from this point of view.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Things like &quot;mathetria&quot; or &quot;hephaestus&quot; are not.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't think, most people would have problems pronouncing hephaestus, at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> least not in Europe and America, since in the European languages there is some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> greek background to be found.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Most people in India, AFAIK will have a problem pronouncing
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;mathetria&quot; or &quot;hephaestus&quot;. Sticking to a Greek name which is also
+</I>&gt;<i> used in English would be better for users other than in
+</I>&gt;<i> Europe/America.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -Anshul
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hephaistos, in old roman culture, was called Vulcan, more easy to
+pronounce (and write)
+And I guess all the linuxians fan of Star Trek will support this name.
+
+Jehane
+
+--
+Marianne (Jehane) Lombard
+Mandriva User Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to
+get out (and a lot of chocolate)
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+<PRE>2010/9/20 Olav Dahlum &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">odahlum at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> In that case, if we're talking magic, how about some sort of crystal ball
+</I>&gt;<i> to replace it?
+</I>
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+&#191;Open clipart library crystal ball: <A HREF="http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1413?">http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1413?</A>
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+<A HREF="http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia2.svg">http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia2.svg</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia.svg">http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia.svg</A>
+
+--
+Saludos de Redy: Linuxita por sistema y GNUdista por naturaleza.
+
+[ parolas.thebbs.org 100% Linux native ]
+
+In a world without frontiers, who needs Gates and Windows?
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/21 Redy Rodr&#237;guez &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">redy.rodriguez at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Olav Dahlum &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">odahlum at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In that case, if we're talking magic, how about some sort of crystal ball
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to replace it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#191;Open clipart library crystal ball: <A HREF="http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1413">http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1413</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia2.svg">http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia2.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia.svg">http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Saludos de Redy: Linuxita por sistema y GNUdista por naturaleza.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [ parolas.thebbs.org 100% Linux native ]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In a world without frontiers, who needs Gates and Windows?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+W
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+<PRE>2010/9/21 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 Redy Rodr&#237;guez &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">redy.rodriguez at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Olav Dahlum &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">odahlum at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In that case, if we're talking magic, how about some sort of crystal ball
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to replace it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#191;Open clipart library crystal ball:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1413?">http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1413?</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia2.svg">http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia2.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia.svg">http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Saludos de Redy: Linuxita por sistema y GNUdista por naturaleza.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [ parolas.thebbs.org 100% Linux native ]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In a world without frontiers, who needs Gates and Windows?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> W
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>With some (4-5) bubbles of oxygen in the top of the crystal, as the potion
+is cooking !
+
+
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/21 Lombard Marianne &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marianne at tuxette.fr</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hephaistos, in old roman culture, was called Vulcan, more easy to
+</I>&gt;<i> pronounce (and write)
+</I>&gt;<i> And I guess all the linuxians fan of Star Trek will support this name.
+</I> Vulcan is ok, a strong force which spews fire and the elements which
+formed the earth as we know it.
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+But as for the Trekkie relation, Vulcan is a planet without emotions
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+In response to the community need of having a neutral ground to share
+thoughts and ideas regarding future Mageia software, I have decided to
+run Mageia Forums. And although it will remain an unofficial board, I
+believe it may play the role of a place where you may share your
+enthusiasm, considerations and fears about the new distribution. A place
+where you will be able to meet fellow users, present your logo concepts
+or find other eager people to create a local community. Let's unload the
+current high traffic that is present on the mailing lists and let them
+serve their original role.
+
+The forums have been registered under the domain:
+<A HREF="http://mageiaforums.org/">http://mageiaforums.org/</A>
+Register, fill your profiles in and contribute.
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+Regards,
+Adrian
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+ <B>Redy Rodr&#237;guez</B>
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+<PRE>*Hecate* or *Hekate* (ancient Greek&lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek</A>&gt;
+&#7961;&#954;&#940;&#964;&#951; &lt;<A HREF="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%99%CE%BA%CE%AC%CF%84%CE%B7">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%99%CE%BA%CE%AC%CF%84%CE%B7</A>&gt;, *
+Hek&#225;t&#275;*, pronounced
+/&#712;h&#603;k&#601;ti&#720;/&lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English</A>&gt;or
+/&#712;h&#603;k&#601;t/ &lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English</A>&gt;[1]&lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hecate#cite_note-0">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hecate#cite_note-0</A>&gt;in
+English) is a
+chthonic &lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chthonic">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chthonic</A>&gt; Greco-Roman goddess
+associated with magic and crossroads.
+
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hecate">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hecate</A>
+
+--
+Saludos de Redy: Linuxita por sistema y GNUdista por naturaleza.
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+[ parolas.thebbs.org 100% Linux native ]
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/21 Adrian Marcinkowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">amfidiusz at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The forums have been registered under the domain:
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+</I>&gt;<i> Register, fill your profiles in and contribute.
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Nice logo !
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+<PRE>Uhmm, mandrivausers.org and mageiausers.org already exists.
+
+Cheers,
+
+H.
+
+On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 03:02 -0700, Adrian Marcinkowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> Dear friends,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In response to the community need
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+ <B>Lombard Marianne</B>
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+<PRE>Le 21/09/2010 12:18, herman a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Uhmm, mandrivausers.org and mageiausers.org already exists.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> H.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 03:02 -0700, Adrian Marcinkowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dear friends,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In response to the community need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The forums have been registered under the domain:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiaforums.org/">http://mageiaforums.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Register, fill your profiles in and contribute.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Can we wait to have an official one ?
+
+forums.mageia.org or mageia.org/forums/ I suppose
+
+Marianne
+
+PS : please, no top-posting
+
+--
+Marianne (Jehane) Lombard
+Mandriva User
+Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate)
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+&gt;<i> Le 21/09/2010 12:18, herman a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Uhmm, mandrivausers.org and mageiausers.org already exists.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 03:02 -0700, Adrian Marcinkowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dear friends,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In response to the community need
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The forums have been registered under the domain:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiaforums.org/">http://mageiaforums.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Register, fill your profiles in and contribute.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can we wait to have an official one ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes, definitely. This is just what we do not need, several places for
+the same task. Pls let the &quot;steering board&quot; build the general
+structure to keep it centralized.
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 Adrian Marcinkowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">amfidiusz at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The forums have been registered under the domain:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageiaforums.org/">http://mageiaforums.org/</A>
+</I>I don't think creating yet another forumis a real good idea. There already is
+mandrivauser.org/mageiausers.org out there and I think, there will be an
+official one, sonn.
+Why not wait, till the infrastructure has settled down?
+I can understand the reasons in creating some neutral forums for Mandriva
+itself since the Mandriva forums were in fact under the control of Mandriva
+S.A., but Mageia itself is a community project. Why creating yet another
+community project to be neutral? There isn't any reason to do that.
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+Oliver
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+ <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B>
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+
+On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 Redy Rodr&#237;guez &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">redy.rodriguez at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2010/9/20 Olav Dahlum &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">odahlum at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In that case, if we're talking magic, how about some sort of crystal ball
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to replace it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#191;Open clipart library crystal ball:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1413?">http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1413?</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia2.svg">http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia2.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia.svg">http://www.fotolibre.org/albums/userpics/10007/mageia.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Saludos de Redy: Linuxita por sistema y GNUdista por naturaleza.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [ parolas.thebbs.org 100% Linux native ]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In a world without frontiers, who needs Gates and Windows?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> W
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With some (4-5) bubbles of oxygen in the top of the crystal, as the potion
+</I>&gt;<i> is cooking !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 Lombard Marianne &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marianne at tuxette.fr</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hephaistos, in old roman culture, was called Vulcan, more easy to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pronounce (and write)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And I guess all the linuxians fan of Star Trek will support this name.
+</I>&gt;<i> Vulcan is ok, a strong force which spews fire and the elements which
+</I>&gt;<i> formed the earth as we know it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But as for the Trekkie relation, Vulcan is a planet without emotions
+</I>&gt;<i> which does not suit us!
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>(Off Topic :P)
+
+Vulcan do have emotions, they suppress them for the sake of logic
+
+----
+Actually, I think the name Vulcan doesn't suit either.
+
+I would like the term more mythic like Alchemist :)
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+ <B>Dale Huckeby</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Lombard Marianne wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le 21/09/2010 09:41, Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Second idea: mathetria, mean a disciple (female), not sure the word will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please to anyone.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /put is her feminist cloak
+</I>&gt;<i> And why female must the disciple ?
+</I>&gt;<i> /end of feminist time
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Your ideas are welcome.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'll see according results how to choose one.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> More seriously the cauldron idea is good. I love it.
+</I>&gt;<i> But there is only one point : sourcemage, a linux-distro, is already
+</I>&gt;<i> using the name for the build-iso system if I've read the site properly
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.sourcemage.org/Cauldron/Main">http://www.sourcemage.org/Cauldron/Main</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it wouldn't be a problem. We are all magician of linux
+</I>
+Chef, bakery, kitchen, rookery, kettle. We don't have to beat the magic thing over the head.
+
+Dale Huckeby
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+<PRE>On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;<i> development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+</I>&gt;<i> insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+</I>&gt;<i> another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Second idea: mathetria, mean a disciple (female), not sure the word will
+</I>&gt;<i> please to anyone.
+</I>
+
+Trying for simple names that don't have too many English spelling
+oddities...
+
+* mixer
+* blender
+* mill
+
+* concert
+* harmony
+* unity
+
+* mercury (Roman messenger of the gods + fast; see also next line...)
+* mercurial (indicates instability and change - perfect for the dev version)
+* quicksilver (old/alchemical name for the element mercury)
+
+* &quot;alchemy&quot; might not be great for internationalization with its hard
+&quot;ch&quot; sound, but words relating to alchemy...?
+
+* elixir
+* transmutation
+
+I also liked &quot;cauldron&quot; or &quot;crucible&quot; (the latter having meanings in
+magic and science).
+
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+<PRE> 21.09.2010 11:04, Yann Ciret kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> Le 21/09/2010 09:56, Kira a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#22312; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:51:47 +0800, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i like the idea of a cauldron to cook magic ^^
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, definitely! Let's put another frog's heart and bat's wing in and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stir it twice at second full moon while singing &quot;Mageia, Mageia,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia&quot; in a husky voice!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I like the scene! And cauldron does fit in the meaning of mageia :)
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron is a good name.
+</I>+1
+
+--
+Sander
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+ <B>Tux99</B>
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+&gt;<i> On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Trying for simple names that don't have too many English spelling
+</I>&gt;<i> oddities...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * mixer
+</I>&gt;<i> * blender
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I vote for 'mixer', easy to remember, easy to pronounce, easy to write.
+
+Cauldron is too hard to promounce, we already have
+Mageia, we don't need more hard to pronounce names...
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+</I>&gt;<i> I vote for 'mixer', easy to remember, easy to pronounce, easy to write.
+</I>
+Hmm, &quot;mixer&quot; like in alsamixer ?
+
+&gt;<i> Cauldron is too hard to promounce
+</I>
+You kidding? It is English, it has only 2 syllables, what is the
+difficulty there?
+You know how to pronounce &quot;Paul&quot;? Now replace the &quot;P&quot; with a &quot;C&quot; and
+add &quot;dron&quot; which is pronounced it as it is spelled.
+
+I wonder what is the difference between cooker and cauldron,
+pronociation-wise I mean.
+
+C'mon, we are all not illiterate monkeys.
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+<PRE>El mar, 21-09-2010 a las 09:41 +0200, Olivier Thauvin escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;<i> development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+</I>&gt;<i> insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+</I>&gt;<i> another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Second idea: mathetria, mean a disciple (female), not sure the word will
+</I>&gt;<i> please to anyone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Your ideas are welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll see according results how to choose one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&quot;testing&quot; would be a good one, it could also enforce adventure users to
+try it to help on &quot;testing&quot; ;-)
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+&gt;<i> El mar, 21-09-2010 a las 09:41 +0200, Olivier Thauvin escribi&#243;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Second idea: mathetria, mean a disciple (female), not sure the word will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please to anyone.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Your ideas are welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'll see according results how to choose one.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
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+&gt;<i> Olivier Thauvin skrev 21.9.2010 10:41:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Second idea: mathetria, mean a disciple (female), not sure the word will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;please to anyone.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Your ideas are welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;I'll see according results how to choose one.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. brewery
+</I>As a beer fan I like this one quite a lot.
+
+I&#8217;m thinking of puns we could make with it like :
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+- Have you tasted the last brew ?
+- Have you tested the last brew ?
+
+Also the name reminds me of homebrew, which insists on the community
+side of things,
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+just my 2 cents,
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+<PRE>On Sep 21, 2010, at 4:00 AM, Miguel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cullero at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> My vote for &quot;cauldron&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> motitos
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+My vote too for Cauldron
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+&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
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+I really like the name &quot;cauldron&quot;.
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+ <B>Jure Repinc</B>
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+&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>Cool, that was the first idea that came to my mind when reading the subject.
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+So, cauldron++
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+&gt;<i> I think cauldron is great but too large. What do you think about 'pot'?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 'Mageia Pot' sound good too, isn't it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bye.
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+In the USA, &quot;Pot&quot; is widely used with the meaning of (illegal) &quot;drugs&quot; .
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+I'd recommend to avoid the name &quot;Pot&quot;.
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+ <B>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen</B>
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:15 AM, gejo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">gejobj at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think cauldron is great but too large. What do you think about 'pot'?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Mageia Pot' sound good too, isn't it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bye.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the USA, &quot;Pot&quot; is widely used with the meaning of (illegal) &quot;drugs&quot; .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd recommend to avoid the name &quot;Pot&quot;.
+</I>What about &quot;Tea Party&quot;?
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+</I>&gt;<i> In the USA, &quot;Pot&quot; is widely used with the meaning of (illegal) &quot;drugs&quot; .
+</I>That's the case in most countries where US american culture was enforced :)
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I vote for 'mixer', easy to remember, easy to pronounce, easy to write.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, &quot;mixer&quot; like in alsamixer ?
+</I>
+Wobo, you know that's nonsense, it's the context that counts, every word
+has been used somewhere before (unless we use a newly invented word), as
+long as it's not used in the same context publically somewhere else we
+can use it.
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Cauldron is too hard to promounce
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I> &gt; You kidding?
+
+No I'm not, and it's certainly longer to type, in the Unix world
+(on which Linux is based) shortness has always been popular:
+mv, cp, ls, etc...
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+As a Unix/Linux sysadmin I like to type less! :-)
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+&gt;<i> What about &quot;Tea Party&quot;?
+</I> IMHO too long. Besides this has a certain odeur for UK patriots,
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+&gt;<i> &gt; I'd recommend to avoid the name &quot;Pot&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> What about &quot;Tea Party&quot;?
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Cauldron is too hard to promounce
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&gt; You kidding?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No I'm not, and it's certainly longer to type, in the Unix world
+</I>&gt;<i> (on which Linux is based) shortness has always been popular:
+</I>&gt;<i> mv, cp, ls, etc...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a Unix/Linux sysadmin I like to type less! :-)
+</I> You are right, Cauldron is 2 chars shorter than Cooker
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+&gt;&gt;<i> What about &quot;Tea Party&quot;?
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+</I>&gt;<i> Let's keep US politics out of Mageia.
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+Envoy&#233;: Mardi 21 Septembre 2010 14:33:14
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+On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:15 AM, gejo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">gejobj at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I think cauldron is great but too large. What do you think about 'pot'?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 'Mageia Pot' sound good too, isn't it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bye.
+</I>
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+In the USA, &quot;Pot&quot; is widely used with the meaning of (illegal) &quot;drugs&quot; .
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+I'd recommend to avoid the name &quot;Pot&quot;.
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+ 1. Re: New name for cooker (Aur?lien GOLL)
+ 2. Re: New name for cooker (Joel Simoes)
+ 3. Re: New name for cooker (alexandre lucazeau)
+ 4. Re: New name for cooker (Remy CLOUARD)
+ 5. Re: New name for cooker (SinnerBOFH)
+ 6. Re: New name for cooker (Redy Rodr?guez)
+ 7. Re: New name for cooker (Jure Repinc)
+ 8. Re: New name for cooker (Sinner from the Prairy)
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+Message: 1
+Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:46:50 +0200
+From: Aur?lien GOLL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">aurelien.goll at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker
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+[...]
+cauldron +1
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+------------------------------
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+Message: 2
+Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:51:38 +0200 (CEST)
+From: Joel Simoes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">joel.simoes at lezard-visuel.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker
+Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">623039508.1210.1285069898248.JavaMail.root at zimbra</A>&gt;
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+[...]
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+LEZARD VISUEL
+SIMOES Jo?l - Directeur associ?
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+www : <A HREF="http://www.lezard-visuel.com">http://www.lezard-visuel.com</A>
+e-mail : <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">joel.simoes at lezard-visuel.com</A>
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+fax : +33 (0) 9 8008 4931
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+----- Mail original -----
+De: &quot;Aur?lien GOLL&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">aurelien.goll at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+?: &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
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+Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:57:53 +0200
+From: alexandre lucazeau &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mornik at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker
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+ &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">AANLkTinrcuJL57os7ufiB+7NiUE9cU+LjHemB64UpRuk at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+If cauldron is used by sourcemage, i suggest : wok
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+it's simple, easy to use, and all people use a wok for multiple cooking, not
+?
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+Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:05:24 +0200
+From: Remy CLOUARD &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">shikamaru at mandriva.org</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker
+Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">20100921120524.GA25464 at shikamaru.fr</A>&gt;
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;
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+On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:45:36AM +0300, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> Olivier Thauvin skrev 21.9.2010 10:41:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;I am in charge of finding the replacement name for &quot;cooker&quot;, eg the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;development version of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Like the for the distribution, the name have to be short, must not be an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;insult any of 6000 know languages in the universe and must not refer to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;another distribution to avoid mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Second idea: mathetria, mean a disciple (female), not sure the word will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;please to anyone.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Your ideas are welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;I'll see according results how to choose one.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. brewery
+</I>As a beer fan I like this one quite a lot.
+
+I?m thinking of puns we could make with it like :
+
+- Have you tasted the last brew ?
+- Have you tested the last brew ?
+
+Also the name reminds me of homebrew, which insists on the community
+side of things,
+
+just my 2 cents,
+
+Regards,
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+Message: 5
+Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:06:41 -0400
+From: SinnerBOFH &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker
+Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">581481C6-2BB3-400A-9B47-77E971417A9B at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+On Sep 21, 2010, at 4:00 AM, Miguel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cullero at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> My vote for &quot;cauldron&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> motitos
+</I>
+My vote too for Cauldron
+
+P. S. : nice seeing you here motitos :)
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
+
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+Message: 6
+Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:12:15 +0200
+From: Redy Rodr?guez &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">redy.rodriguez at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker
+Message-ID:
+ &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">AANLkTikSypsveiDgNhG1cS1UDDvLqV-CrNfSnG2Cv+ab at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+2010/9/21 Olivier Thauvin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I really like the name &quot;cauldron&quot;.
+
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+Message: 7
+Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:09:48 +0200
+From: Jure Repinc &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jlp at holodeck1.com</A>&gt;
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker
+Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">201009211409.49232.jlp at holodeck1.com</A>&gt;
+Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;
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+On Tuesday 21 of September 2010 09:41:30 Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+&gt;<i> First idea: cauldron, I'd like to be able to say &quot;oh yes, put the
+</I>&gt;<i> python egg into the cauldron&quot; ;)
+</I>Cool, that was the first idea that came to my mind when reading the subject.
+
+So, cauldron++
+
+Have a great time,
+Jure &quot;JLP&quot; Repinc
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+Message: 8
+Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:33:14 -0400
+From: Sinner from the Prairy &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker
+Message-ID:
+ &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">AANLkTim8sTkdcqZndFq62ijWwOJmi-FwgzBux_fk5yAb at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:15 AM, gejo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">gejobj at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I think cauldron is great but too large. What do you think about 'pot'?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 'Mageia Pot' sound good too, isn't it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bye.
+</I>
+
+In the USA, &quot;Pot&quot; is widely used with the meaning of (illegal) &quot;drugs&quot; .
+
+I'd recommend to avoid the name &quot;Pot&quot;.
+
+
+Salut,
+Sinner
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+<PRE>Well I'm not 100% sure .. maybe 80% sure that the software is a nulled
+version of IPB (i.e. stolen)
+In any case .. as has already been mentioned, running ahead a doing things
+without taking direction from a steering committee is counter productive.
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+Let Anne Nicolas choose who and how (I'm pretty sure Anne is the community
+liason/manager/go to person/insert title here/ ? )
+
+Paul Willard.
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+Maybe mageia contributors don't feel to be involved in a forum now, but at least a forum is something you choose to check or not email.
+When I see 50 emails about the cookeer name, I'm sorry but who cares !!! Why are you spamming my mailbox with such stupid question when the project is still in discussion mode... (before choose a name, maybe we should start the work...)(I have a new alert every 15 seconds for a new mail on my mandriva kopet alert message)
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+If they need a server to put a forum some people say thay can host it, or if they need some people to install it or moderate it, I can help. I'm sure it could be an easy way for some &quot;contributors&quot; to help tham to work and to discuss in a decent environnment without paying the price of taking so much time for it...
+
+Pierre
+(installing a forum is 10 minutes works, moderate him can be time eating, but not too much)