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   <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Missing link to forums</H1>
    <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> 
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<PRE>On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:46, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
&gt;<i> 2011/5/31 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:06, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/31 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, reinstalled these in the nav bar before a wave rises; however,
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that doesn't make it less messy. Community is much more than just the
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> forum, that's the whole project.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Romain, I know that, but you spelled it out nicely: &quot;before the wave rises&quot;.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What does that mean? It means, that there is a demand, be it messy or
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> whatever, we can not argue against the demand of users.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh yes we can. :-p That's called finding a better solution. It's just
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that, at this very time, I have in no way the time and energy to
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> handle a (heated or not) discussion about that. :-)
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</I>&gt;<i> No, you can't.
</I>&gt;<i> Of course you may win any discussion and of course you can ignore
</I>&gt;<i> everything and just do what you want. And you may also call it any
</I>&gt;<i> name you want, in the end you have to listen to the user's demands.
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There are cases where there's a significant difference between what
one demands and what one needs. And unless one doesn't challenge this
difference, there's only incremental progress in sight; at best.

&gt;&gt;<i> Right, then in this very case, it's not the global nav that counts,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but the availability of the link on the very first front page. :-)
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</I>&gt;<i> Well, yes, that would be essential, but having it in global nav would be better.
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The global nav (be it with one or two levels - and provided we still
want one) is to appear on a large set of Web sites: blog, planet,
forum, www, bugzilla, websvn, identity, ml archives, buildsystem
dashboard, etc. - and that then, it must keep its relevance as a first
level nav in all these contexts - and it needs a format/layout that
works as well; our current layout aims for a concise nav.

That's the point of the design/discussion doc I posted months ago and
that I got no feedback about.

Romain
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