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On 20/04/12 19:27, Kristoffer Grundström wrote:
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Hi!<br>
<br>
Now & then I tend to loose my mind & install Ubuntu on one
of my computers & the last time I did it I heard about PPA's.
I added a PPA & noticed how fun it was to test the code that
it offers.<br>
<br>
This is the explanation of what PPA is & does according to the
Ubuntu-page:<br>
<br>
<b>"Personal Package Archives (PPA) allow you to upload Ubuntu
source packages to be built and published as an apt repository
by Launchpad."</b><br>
<br>
My idea would be something similar.<br>
<br>
It starts with the user that gets annoyed how some Mageia-packages
that are meant to be stable that they aren't.<br>
Instead of having to do the job themselves they can just add a
special media called user-contrib that contains packages built
from git-source to be tested in Cauldron & then released as
Backport-version when confirmed stable enough to see if the issue
they had on the officially stable package is gone.<br>
<br>
I know that it would take many people to build thoose, but I'm
willing to download git-code & compile & build for Mageia.<br>
<br>
I've already managed to compile & build the latest official
version of Transmission without using the official Mageia patches
& I've got NO problem at all using the package.<br>
<br>
Test theese packages & say what you think:<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://199.91.153.84/c75b5l1s469g/yljxa1e92l5mmix/transmission-debug-2.51%2B-1.x86_64.rpm">http://199.91.153.84/c75b5l1s469g/yljxa1e92l5mmix/transmission-debug-2.51%2B-1.x86_64.rpm</a><br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://199.91.152.243/2wm8pbg3k5eg/9th0m5xxslth99a/transmission-2.51%2B-1.x86_64.rpm">http://199.91.152.243/2wm8pbg3k5eg/9th0m5xxslth99a/transmission-2.51%2B-1.x86_64.rpm</a><br>
<br>
/Kristoffer<br>
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Hi<br>
<br>
I have thought about it before how it could be useful after Mageia 2
has been released for there to be PPA's or something like it for
Mageia.<br>
<br>
With Ubuntu PPA's are really just repo's that can be added by users
so that they can get later versions of software that aren't in the
Ubuntu repo's. With PPA's it's meant to be known as well that they
may be buggy, because usually they have just been made by
developers/packagers or something like that I think, and not gone
through a proper Quality Assurance process. Really they are meant to
be aimed at more experienced users, but it seems that more recently
since 2008 or something like that, that quite a lot of less
experienced Ubuntu users may also have at least one PPA installed.
Also to many installed PPA's can cause issues with the Ubuntu
install.<br>
<br>
I have been thinking before about the current Mageia release cycle
and when it comes to Gnome. Since the 9 months release cycle for
example, it seems that sometimes a new major version of Gnome will
have to be skipped, as in not offered by Mageia as an update for any
supported stable final release at the time. I am not a developer,
but I assume those versions of Gnome can be put into Cauldron and
then backported to the current stable release as well, or put into
something like a PPA for users to install into final Mageia
releases. As for Cauldron it should keep on having the latest
versions of Gnome, usually development versions.<br>
<br>
In general most Desktop Linux users want the latest final versions
of the software that they use it seems, and I think that it would be
good if there was a easy way to offer this for most or all packages.
This is where something like Ubuntu's PPA's would come in.<br>
<br>
I think if Mageia has something like PPA's, they shouldn't need to
require QA from the QA team and it should be known users and
potential users that they may be buggy/unstable. Where as backports
of course will have gone through the Mageia QA team process.<br>
<br>
As for the PPA's themselves or the something like it, would need a
website for it like they have for Ubuntu
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas">https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas</a> and they should only be offered
on the site from people who have gone through the Mageia packaging
process and become trusted packagers I think.<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-ppa-technology-explained/">http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-ppa-technology-explained/</a><br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA">https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA</a><br>
<br>
From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
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