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<p><br>
Le 11 mars 2012 12:15, &quot;Wolfgang Bornath&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt; a écrit :<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2012/3/11 Luc Menut &lt;<a href="mailto:lmenut@free.fr">lmenut@free.fr</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt; &gt; Le 10/03/2012 23:49, Oliver Burger a écrit :<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Am 10.03.2012 23:46, schrieb Juan Luis Baptiste:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; [...]<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Right now, the splitting of the handbook packages will use the same<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; bandwidth as before. As Anssi said, before the handbooks came bundled<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; with the owner package, so they were also being installed. So<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; bandwidth wise, is still the same as before the splitting.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; I haven&#39;t looked into it, but perhaps we could install those handbooks<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; as Suggests instead of Requires (or is it already done that way?).<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Then people wanting to save bandwidth could just install using<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &quot;--no-suggests&quot;.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I don&#39;t agree. Handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they should be<br>
&gt; &gt; installed, and shouldn&#39;t be removed. A kde install without handbooks is a<br>
&gt; &gt; damaged kde install. Do you think that the kde doc team will continue to<br>
&gt; &gt; work on handbooks if each distrib don&#39;t install its work?<br>
&gt; &gt; That&#39;s why, personally I think the exact opposite; each component should<br>
&gt; &gt; *requires* its handbook (but probably it won&#39;t work with LiveCD).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I don&#39;t agree. You seem to first take for granted that a user of the<br>
&gt; KDE desktop also uses all the applications and second you mistake<br>
&gt; &quot;good to have&quot; for &quot;must have&quot;. I&#39;m using KDE but only few KDE<br>
&gt; applications - so why do I need a handbook for kppp or knode or kmail<br>
&gt; when I don&#39;t even install these applications? I would happily<br>
&gt; de-install such handbooks as I regularly unmark grub-doc and similar<br>
&gt; packages from installation.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In your previous reply to Juergen you also showed that you<br>
&gt; misunderstood his wish for Mageia documentation. It is good and<br>
&gt; important that documentation is available if needed. But it must not<br>
&gt; be forced on those who don&#39;t want/need it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I may add that I have been involved in documentation writing and<br>
&gt; translating for almost 7 years. But I never thought that users must<br>
&gt; use it if they don&#39;t need it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; wobo</p>
<p>I agree that documentation has to be available with the application i use. While i use the program and i need more infos i press F1. If the handbook it is not available what i will have ? A message informs me that the doc is missing or it has to be installed manualy? </p>

<p>As when you get any product it comes with its manual, i believe that the handbook of an application is a must have, and an application should never be installed without its documentation.</p>