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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Times New Roman";" lang="EN-US">There is also a
script called "tuningdrake" developed from <a href="http://blogdrake.net/">http://blogdrake.net/</a> that
the user could install a lot of non-free stuffs like sun java, adobe acrobat,
etc. </span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Times New Roman";">It works on mageia with that code</span><pre class="code"><span style="font-size: 14pt;" lang="EN-US">urpmi <a href="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.0/free/noarch/Tuningdrake-1.0.3-1bdk2010.0.noarch.rpm">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.0/free/noarch/Tuningdrake-1.0.3-1bdk2010.0.noarch.rpm</a><br>
<br><br><br>You can read about it from mandriva Brazil wiki at <a href="http://docs.mandriva-br.org/mandriva/utilidades/tuningdrake#instalando_o_tuningdrake">http://docs.mandriva-br.org/mandriva/utilidades/tuningdrake#instalando_o_tuningdrake</a><br>
<br><br><br>cheers.</span></pre><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/21 Michael scherer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 04:59:43PM -0500, Dale Huckeby wrote:<br>
> On Sat, 21 May 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote:<br>
><br>
> >On 21 May 2011 21:46, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati<br>
> ><<a href="mailto:renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org">renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>Will there be some such thing in place when Mageia is finally launched ?<br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> >No, simply because there's no need for a tool like that; easyurpmi was<br>
> >mainly used by Mandriva users to add the PLF repos, in Mageia PLF is<br>
> >replaced by the Tainted repo, which is added (but disabled) by<br>
> >default.<br>
><br>
> Simply no need? Maybe I'm misreading you or missing something but this comes<br>
> across as really arrogant in presuming what others (not you!) do or don't need,<br>
> and how and why people have "mainly" used easyurpmi in the past. How do you<br>
> know? Was there a poll that I didn't get included in? I've always found<br>
> easyurpmi very convenient and not just for plf. I guess I didn't realize how<br>
> atypical I was.<br>
<br>
</div></div>Easyurpmi, as I said in the past, suffer from various problems :<br>
<br>
- it is centralized. It is where people fighted to get included or not. Every<br>
group in the past forked ( some without any attribution ) the software to be<br>
listed as repository for their version, because the original maintainer refused<br>
to list every possible variations of every random rpm repositories. Despites having wrote<br>
docs on .urpmi-media file on the wiki, people prefered to reuse easyurpmi out of<br>
some form of cargo culting ( until easyurpmi decided to adopt the system ).<br>
<br>
This caused some frictions in the community, and some divisions due to X instances of the software.<br>
<br>
- the code could have been much better. Olivier wrote it and he was not a php coder, and<br>
neither is Phillipe, the current maintainer. I think that the translation system is<br>
primitive and prone to problem. No one seemed to be motivated to rewrite, despites<br>
people fixing various problem.<br>
<br>
- the core of the system was still "here is a website that a new user cannot find by<br>
itself, that will give command that he doesn't understand, and that he need to type as root,<br>
after asking question that didn't made much sense for him". That's bad on many levels :<br>
- difficult to find for a new user.<br>
- asking to type command as root first, and later "click on a link in your browser and type after your<br>
admin password", which is IMHO quite bad from giving wrong habits to people.<br>
- asking lots of questions, ( fixed later by using a simplified mode, that use rpmdrake or<br>
that fail silently )<br>
<br>
There is also some issue like "it requires a web browser" ( which is highly problematic when you<br>
are in a datacenter, setting up a server ). And "it doesn't use ssl" ( which is rather bad for a site that give you<br>
basically software sources ). This one could be fixed, but that's quite curious that no one<br>
thought of it before. Maybe people do not care about security, and about the content of a file that end<br>
to be read by a software running as root.<br>
<br>
The discoverability issues still exist and could not be fixed because of the nature of PLF/Mandriva.<br>
The bad habits given to users is a direct consequence of the way it work. The power struggle<br>
part too is inherent to the system, and this would become worst if there is a official instance<br>
on Mageia servers.<br>
<br>
Since the discoverability issue should be fixed by simply having tainted disabled by default and maybe<br>
some popup whatever to enable it, I see no reason to suffer from the others problems (<br>
bad habits, power struggle ). People can install a clone of easyurpmi if they want, but I will<br>
oppose on having it on our servers, on having anything like this labelled as official, and<br>
would recommend to people to not deploy it.<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
<font color="#888888">Michael Scherer<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>
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