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    Le 17/12/2010 22:09, Daniel Kreuter a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
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      cite="mid:AANLkTi=e5yRS1zZxK+b7at3f7PcCJ3+68jfNm5BuzY+w@mail.gmail.com"
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      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:51 AM,
        Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
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          I want to point to skiper's blog, who gave the whole "Logo"
          issue some<br>
          thought. It is titled, "Mageia logo - I don't like it".<br>
          <br>
          But what he writes is very different from the usual "I don't
          like it,<br>
          it's ugly" posts. I explains in detail why he does not like it
          and why<br>
          he thinks it is not a good choice based on objective reasons.
          Although<br>
          I do not share his opinion I want to give credit to him
          because he did<br>
          not just complain, he put some thinking and time into
          explaining his<br>
          opinion.<br>
          <br>
          BTW: He explicitely states that he does not complain about the<br>
          decision finding process.<br>
          <br>
          &nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://skiperdrake.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/mageia-logo-i-am-not-happy-with-it/"
            target="_blank">http://skiperdrake.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/mageia-logo-i-am-not-happy-with-it/</a><br>
          <br>
          Good reading, even if it is not my opinion :)<br>
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      <br>
      I just thought about his blog entry and when I think about our
      Logo, i see the following things in it:<br>
      <br>
      Our logo represents the cauldron as it is the name of our testing
      environment. A cauldron has something magical in it, you put
      things in to it, and it comes something wonderful out of it, for
      someone not knowing what the man/woman does it sounds like a
      mirracle. Isn't just this the meaning of our philosophy? Providing
      the user a distribution where he thinks wow it works, it don't
      know how but it works.<br>
      <br>
      And that's a point I see when thinking about our logo. <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    I hardly see the cauldron and the nest there. I don't see anything
    of all this in the logo. For me, it is just an accessibility sign
    that is not pleasant but has just been made to comply to the most
    strict guidelines and rules.<br>
    <br>
    Honestly, the more I try to cope with the logo, the more I actually
    dislike it. I am really afraid of the sort of artwork I will have to
    support with such an ugly white/black thing. A simple black line
    could have been drawn, it would have been exactly the same. I use to
    like, or at least cope with many things, even the Ia Ora theme I
    always described as quite old looking, I still manage to appreciate
    it. But this logo makes me really depress about what will come next.
    And what worries me even more is that I am not alone at all in this
    situation. <br>
    <br>
    I am really sorry, but I just want to say the truth about how I feel
    with this logo. I am so sorry, but I <u>really</u> do not like this
    logo. In the future, if there are trolls of bad comments on it,
    expect me to hate it. I do not like myself being like this. I feel
    like my attitude is wrong, but I can see Mageia as a credible
    project without a credible logo. It may be serious, but not
    credible. <br>
    <br>
    I hope I am wrong and that Mageia will become popular and
    successful, but I feel really sad when I see this logo I see as our
    flagship, and it really deceives me. <br>
    There is nothing nice in it. <br>
    <br>
    All my apologies for this. I still accept it, but it is really hard
    to cope with a flagship you find really depressing, while you really
    like the project, want to participate in it and let it grow, working
    with people you like. <br>
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