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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/21 Marc Paré <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com">marc@marcpare.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Le 2010-09-21 12:09, Tux99 a écrit :<div class="im"><br>
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, vfmBOFH wrote:<br>
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Similar to the (failed) mandriva assembly, huh?<br>
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I think it can be a good scheme. And comes with some "extras" like localized<br>
communities can "elect" their representative on the future associaton, and<br>
turns the "central hub" in a open discuss for them. If this scheme sucess,<br>
transparency and openess of the representative's discursons are guaranteed.<br>
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Since vfmBOFH mentions the failed mandriva assembly, I'd like to suggest<br>
to please keep the organisational structure as flat as possible.<br>
<br>
On the internet where everyone has equal possibilities to be informed<br>
and partecipate we don't need multi-level hierarchical structures with<br>
so called local community representatives that have special rights or<br>
influence.<br>
<br>
As we just saw during the first days of Mageia, the opinion of some<br>
local community representatives don't necessarily match at all with the<br>
opinions of the members of their community.<br>
<br>
So personally I don't see any point in local community representatives<br>
as decision makers. If anything they should make sure that their<br>
communities are informaed by arranging translations of relevant<br>
information and manage their local forums, events etc.<br>
<br>
Any voting on global Mageia issues should be open to everyone, there<br>
should be no delegations or representations as that's not necessary on<br>
the internet.<br>
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Agreed, however, that is not what we were talking about. We were talking about information flow of information from the outer-localized groups being communicated back to the main site.<br></blockquote><div><br>I will talk about i know. In the past, blogdrake admins "probes" the communitie's opinions to make it theirs. Then, they go to to Mandriva's active channel (whatever) and shows it. The new scheme i see it's ony a refined version of a good-working scheme. At least, until blogdrake's admins communicates with mandriva... <br>
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Having a reverse flow, in my opinion, would be a job tackled on by the localized groups themselves. That is to mean, if the localized group wanted to be informed of the goings-on at the main Mageia.org site, they would make arrangements themselves to translate these to their localized members.<br>
</blockquote><div>I agree with it. And -again- the reverse flow could/must be important part of the local representative's work.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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The main issue here, as with all large organizations, is to make sure that the information from the outer-limbs of Mageia makes it back to the cental hub point from where the decisions are made. Before making decisions on issues, the Mageia.org hub should have all of the pertinent feedback from all users (localized or not). The flow should assure this.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>Again, i talk about i know: On the "assemby times" the blogdrake's admins were the messenger between assembly and its community (in the two ways flow). You can be sure we will do again, if neccessary, but maybe it's time to improve the community implication using some kind of election. But the scheme i think is valid and applicable to each local community.<br>
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Marc</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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