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<H1>[Mageia-discuss] First impressions</H1>
<B>Thomas C Gilliard</B>
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<I>Wed Feb 16 01:35:08 CET 2011</I>
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Maarten Vanraes wrote:
><i> Op dinsdag 15 februari 2011 22:01:21 schreef Thomas Backlund:
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> Maarten Vanraes skrev 15.2.2011 22:34:
</I>>><i>
</I>>>><i> These are my own very conchise first impressions:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> - no btrfs? (except in advanced setup)
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i> I think we can enable support for btrfs in standard setup
</I>>><i> (but I dont think we should go for it as default yet...)
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> exactly, i looked at the list, and it lists ext3, ext4, xfs, jfs, etc... btrfs
</I>><i> could easily be there amongst those.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I would indeed wait to set it by default when it has been more used and proven
</I>><i> as stable. (perhaps one or two releases further)
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>>>><i> - core media
</I>>>><i> This screen was never clear to me, and i never selected it, however,
</I>>>><i> perhaps for iso installation, a mirror repository should be
</I>>>><i> automatically there and selected by default? so that if there's updates,
</I>>>><i> they can already be used during installation... ? WDYT?
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i> Well, that page is to give the user the choice to add a mirror repo if
</I>>><i> she/she wants it, but not forcing it...
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> i'm just thinking if we list some form of updates there by default, it could
</I>><i> mean faster install (no updates later on), and if something wasn't functional,
</I>><i> at release time, it could be "pushed" from repositories, so that it would work
</I>><i> well.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> at the same time, i think we should try to minimize the amount of packages
</I>><i> needed to have working network, (or use the stuff that's in the stage tarballs
</I>><i> to get network, instead of first installing part of it)
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>>>><i> - i selected HTTP and it installed a few packages so i could enable
</I>>>><i> networking (2min)
</I>>>><i> - the partition step kept being highlighted, even when i was configuring
</I>>>><i> network...
</I>>>><i> - <A HREF="http://distrib-">http://distrib-</A>
</I>>>><i> coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64 didn't
</I>>>><i> seem to work when configuring additional media
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i> It might have been overloaded, so no free download slots...
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> perhaps, i'm not sure
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>>>><i> - KDE choice (very funny artwork :-D )
</I>>>><i> - installing (5min)
</I>>>><i> - when configuring, wizard said my password was trivial to guess, even
</I>>>><i> though i had letter and digits in it with total length 8
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i> A good pasword should contain a mix of atleast 3 of theese:
</I>>><i> - lower-case characters
</I>>><i> - upper-case characters
</I>>><i> - numbers
</I>>><i> - special characters
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> and preferably >=10 characters
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> so, it's either trivial or good? no inbetweens?
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>>>><i> - perhaps the iso media should be removed after installation and when
</I>>>><i> updated media are installed? it keeps requesting for the DVD...
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i> That would mean getting network traffic, even if you have it on the iso.
</I>>><i> And the user can always change it in the media manager
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> how often do you have people installing ISO, then removing iso, to boot from
</I>><i> disk; only to find out that you have to put it in again to install a few
</I>><i> applications. granted the first reboot doesn't boot from the iso, but the
</I>><i> subsequent boots do use the iso...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> otoh, indeed it could mean increased network traffic...
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>>>><i> - vim didn't show a color scheme for /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg .
</I>>>><i> - trying to update with urpmi --auto-select showed me that i had an
</I>>>><i> orphaned package ? kernel-desktop-devel ? odd...
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i> urpmi orphans detection isn't perfect yet...
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> i don't think this is the problem, tbh, i'm wondering why it was even
</I>><i> installed? (unless it was for dkms stuff?)
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>>>><i> logs vbox3 guest: (vbox3 is still in 2010.2, so perhaps we should have
</I>>>><i> vbox3 compatibility?)
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i> vbox 4 is in 2010.2 backports
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> true, but would you dare to upgrade an existing vbox3 version to vbox4? i have
</I>><i> several machines that are "saved"...
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>
See: comments:
/Preliminary testing shows Virtual Box Appliances from ver 3.1.10-12
import and function well in ver 4.0.x and visa-versa / 12/26/2010 satellit
<A HREF="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files#VirtualBox">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files#VirtualBox</A>
I default to .vmdk and .ovf for export and import and do not use new
.ova format for exports to maintain compatibility.
Tom Gilliard
satellit_ on freenode IRC
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</I>>><i> Thomas
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