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<H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection</H1>
<B>Renaud MICHEL</B>
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<I>Mon Oct 18 21:01:14 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>On lundi 18 octobre 2010 at 02:20, Graham Lauder wrote :
><i> On Sunday 17 Oct 2010 21:20:48 Renaud MICHEL wrote:
</I>><i> > Contrary to android and macos (and mandriva) which are backed by
</I>><i> > enterprises, mageia is a community project.
</I>><i> > So if you throw away the community, there is nothing left.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> No one is advocating throwing away the community, but being part of a
</I>><i> community has it's issues, decision making speed is one of them.
</I>
Yeah, it was a little exagerated, but that's how I understood the previous
post when he wrote
><i> > On dimanche 17 octobre 2010 at 03:11, LinuxBSDos.com wrote :
</I>><i> > > Instead of focusing on the needs of the community, why not start
</I>><i> > > thinking of building a distribution for main stream users.
</I>
Because, if mageia would no care about my needs, I don't see why I would
contribute to it.
Because, beeing an egoist, I am willing to contribute first to have distro
that suits my needs (which mandriva does quite well), and only secondly to
have a distro that could fill most people needs (but that second point is
anyway very important for me!).
><i> In a
</I>><i> corporate environment people are hired to do a particular job, they are
</I>><i> hired for their expertise in their field and they, for that reason, have
</I>><i> the major in any policy in their particular area of responsibility.
</I>><i> However in a Community based OSS project everybody has the opportunity
</I>><i> to have their say and that can lead to conflict, god knows I sometimes
</I>><i> just shout at the screen: "JUST LET ME DO MY JOB, I HAPPEN TO BE GOOD AT
</I>><i> IT!!" and yea I can be a bit forceful at times. :D
</I>><i>
</I>><i> However, it is healthy and it's a strength that Corporates don't have.
</I>><i> Anybody who's been on big development projects will be able to rant long
</I>><i> and Loud about those F**** marketing guys keep changing the spec and
</I>><i> we're going way over budget and I'm going to...[insert mutilation of
</I>><i> choice]..to those a@%*holes.
</I>
Yeah, I know that all too well...
><i> Well this Marketing/Training guy, often says the same thing about Project
</I>><i> Managers. :/ A good project manager is gift from the gods, because he
</I>><i> has a wide open communication track with HR and Marketing because he
</I>><i> realises that Users aren't developers, and the gets market research and
</I>><i> User experience surveys done before the project starts. All too rare
</I>><i> sometimes I think. An RFP or spec often gets written with no
</I>><i> consideration other than scratching the Writers itch and the problems
</I>><i> start. However that's another treatise entirely! :)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> The point is that sometimes it's better to step back and say "OK, this
</I>><i> isn't my field, let the guys whose field it is get on with it." Let me
</I>><i> stress however the sometimes and definitely not always.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Now in the Mageia Marketing group we have Teachers with deep pedagogical
</I>><i> knowledge, we have Marketers and Communications people who are bloody
</I>><i> good at what they do, who have been involved in marketing FOSS projects
</I>><i> for years right up to and including a PHD in FOSS marketing. I hold it
</I>><i> up as a huge privilege to work with this group of excellent people, and
</I>><i> guess what, we are a community, a community with a shared goal, to
</I>><i> market Mageia in the best way we know how.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I look to the Founders, I look at our Marketing team and I look at the
</I>><i> wider contributing community and I seriously believe that if Redmond
</I>><i> isn't quaking in it's boots it should be.
</I>
I am certainly in no position to give advices to the marketing team, and I
trust them in making a good job, as long as it doesn't dictate too much how
the development should be headed.
Obviously, marketing and developers teams will have to communicate a lot.
The marketing guys telling to the devs which features are really needed to
have a wider audience, and the devs showing the marketing guys the great
features they are working on so that they can integrate it in their
communication.
cheers
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Renaud Michel
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