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   <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway</H1>
    <B>Marc Par&#233;</B> 
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&gt;<i> Hi there
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</I>&gt;<i> Well, that's a great job, really, nice to see such a thing is possible.
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</I>&gt;<i> However i would like to point something very important for me, forum users are
</I>&gt;<i> quite different from ML users.
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</I>&gt;<i> In fact, throught this system we face one goal of Mageia. Will it be a
</I>&gt;<i> distribution for &quot;developers&quot; or for &quot;end-users&quot; (well i know developers are
</I>&gt;<i> also end-users). End-users, well just users may come from Windows (i hope we
</I>&gt;<i> will attract some to the good side of the force :D ) and they feels a forum
</I>&gt;<i> must easier than a ML. Just look at rules on the ML here, no html, no top
</I>&gt;<i> posting, just quote well are things that needs to use mail correctly. And just
</I>&gt;<i> use mail correctly is sometimes hard for just users. I do not work in
</I>&gt;<i> computing and i just see how computers are seen, how they are used and how
</I>&gt;<i> theses 3 rules would be hard to use. No HTML ? well i guess few users (outside
</I>&gt;<i> those working in computing) knows how to do it, no top posting ... ouch quite
</I>&gt;<i> impossible, quote well ... hum what do you calll quoting ?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Let's face it, ML is a tool for developers not a tool for users. As a user i
</I>&gt;<i> do prefer forums, on one topic i can have the full discussion no need to
</I>&gt;<i> navigate between mails, there are colors, it is (or it give the feeling) more
</I>&gt;<i> attractive and newbies or users will prefer using forums. That's the same
</I>&gt;<i> thing between using GUI or CLI, i know CLI is powerful, faster, very efficient,
</I>&gt;<i> but for users GUI is better, they feel at ease when using their mouse to point
</I>&gt;<i> and click, validate.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I have also praticed a lot web forum, and a very little usenet and it is also
</I>&gt;<i> two differents audience. Anyone here on alt.os.linux.mandriva (hum yes Marc
</I>&gt;<i> Par&#233; is on) ?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> So, even if there is a good tool to have a bidirectional Gateway between ML
</I>&gt;<i> and web forum i don't think we will meet efficiency with it. The best way for me
</I>&gt;<i> is to have these different tools since they have different audiences, some of us
</I>&gt;<i> will be on both tools but most will use just one.
</I>&gt;<i>
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You have actually enumerated the many reasons why this is such a great 
setup. Regardless of anyone's preference of communication, we can all 
talk to each other. It's as if there was a universal translator that 
would enable everyone to speak in their native language but we could all 
understand each other --- you know like on StarTrek Voyageur!

Anyone can pick the way they want their voice to be heard and we can all 
hear, whether you are a dev or user. I don't think that there will ever 
be an efficient and unified communication tool, so if we can offer ML, 
usenet and forums to everyone to pick from, then it is a big plus for 
our distro. How wonderful is that?

BTW ... I also manage an online magazine and receive messages from user 
mailists ... approximately 20-30 of them. They are pretty active and 
none of them are dev mailists.

Eh! oui, je participe aussi &#224; alt.os.linux.mandriva mais je ne suis pas 
le seul du groupe usenet Mandriva qui est &#224; l'&#233;coute ici sur le Mageia 
mailist.

Marc

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