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   <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1>
    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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<PRE>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 &#224; 17:52 +0800, Kira a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> &#22312; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:44:37 +0800, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have worked on it a little on it, to complete it, and the patches were
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; accepted upstream. According to
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.packagekit.org/pk-matrix.html">http://www.packagekit.org/pk-matrix.html</A> , the only important part we
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; miss are :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; InstallFiles and WhatProvides , which may not be too hard to code.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> But, do we need packagekit? I don't get it.
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Packagekit integration in gnome ( like &quot;install gstreamer plugin when
needed to play a file&quot; or &quot;install on demand file when i type the
command&quot; ) is nice, and IMHO, would solve some issue we tried to solve
with Suggests. 

&gt;<i> ----
</I>&gt;<i> By the way, I think smart should win back some attention, since some
</I>&gt;<i> good function is missed in rpmdrake.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Maybe include it like the way canonical did(Two package management,
</I>&gt;<i> one for newbie and one for expert?)
</I>
Usability experts will tell you that it is bad. Because people are not
able to fully judge what they need exactly solely based on the name, and
they have 2 systems to learn instead of one before choosing. 
So having 2 graphical task for this will confuse newbie users, will
expert, by nature, are perfectly able to customize their system to suit
their needs.

Canonical do this because that's a transition state, as the Software
center is not fully finished. They plan to have it as full featured as
synaptic for 10.10, according to
<A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#Roadmap">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#Roadmap</A> , and while it is not
written, I assume they will then remove synaptic from default
installation. 

As a side note, having 2 graphical softwares for the same task also
requires twice the amount of test before release. And 2 differents
codepaths would also mean twice more bugs ( since there is 2 time more
code ). Nothing that can't be done of course, but maybe it is wiser to
spend QA time elsewhere.

-- 
Michael Scherer

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